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Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

d6crawler
 

Maybe in all the excitement of headstock versus tailstock the post where I mentioned a pin was missed or maybe yours does not have such a pin. My mid-40's 16" SB has a pin in the headstock that positions in on the bed. It cannot move out of alignment.

Maybe someone added that later on or maybe your model is just not the same due to age differences.

My pin IIRC is about 1/2" around. and is towards the chuck on the operator side of the lathe.

I also was going to jump into the fray about the clamps but thought better of it. I will say the two on the headstock are clearly different in size and shape from the one on the tailstock.

If there is no pin then look for wear on the gears and you can certainly align based on that. If there is no wear on the gears I will be pretty surprised.

Good luck,
Daniel

It is one of two headstock clamps. This being my first lathe adventure, of the
+metalworking variety, I am intrigued by the idea that others would bolt
+directly to the bed. That would remove any gear alignment issues that I will
+have to look out for, especially considering that it came without a spindle
+gear or reverse tumbler. May have to reverse engineer the proper headstock
+position based on where gears can end up being positioned on the lead screw and
+banjo piece. The headstock was already removed from the bed when I picked it
+up. By any chance would it be designed so that the edge of the headstock is
+supposed to line up with the edge of the end of the bed??

Greg


Re: Heavy 10 identification help needed

Ruud
 

@Jim B: thx, that is the info I was looking for. Didn't know about the #4 collet existance.
one of the 3 drawbars I own is an ~17,8 ID, so it could be the 11/16". The OD is 
@George: The headstock spindle ID is 1".

These are pictures with a caliper and ruler next to the drawbars  I own:
The left one is the smalest and I think it is the one for the #4 collets.
The center one allso passes the headstock spindle. The thirt one doesn't fit al all. Doesn't look like a southbend. Don't know what type it is.
If any one has info on these drawbars.......please let me know.


heavy 10 star knob clutch assembly

Nathan Baynes
 

hello all,
I am wondering if a 1942 era single tumbler heavy 10 has a thrust bearing in the powerfeed worm gear and clutch assembly? The lever operated era seams to have this but when i tore mine down (star knob)for rebuilding, i found no such thrust bearing?? also my spring inthe clutch spline washer stack has been eaten up. i wonder if anybody has specs on this spring or a spare one?? thanks in advance for any answers or help!
nate


Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

Greg Mekkes
 

The headstock has been off the bed for a while before I got it, but I will certainly look for those telltale signs of where it has been positioned. Certainly it has spent the majority of those 100 years clamped in place!!

On Sep 29, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Nelson Collar nel2lar@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

that lathe is 100 years old is there not any areas of footprint from pasitin of headstock?

On Friday, September 29, 2017, 8:53:23 AM EDT, Greg Mekkes mekkes2020@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 

It is one of two headstock clamps. This being my first lathe adventure, of the metalworking variety, I am intrigued by the idea that others would bolt directly to the bed. That would remove any gear alignment issues that I will have to look out for, especially considering that it came without a spindle gear or reverse tumbler. May have to reverse engineer the proper headstock position based on where gears can end up being positioned on the lead screw and banjo piece. The headstock was already removed from the bed when I picked it up. By any chance would it be designed so that the edge of the headstock is supposed to line up with the edge of the end of the bed??

Greg

On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:58 AM, r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

Eddie, I entirely agree with with your post tonight. We just needed to wait for confirmation from Greg on what he was needing.  If these South Bends are going to last another 100 years it is best to use the right material in the potential wear/gall areas, as you have recommended.



From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
Dear all,

My humble apologies for suggesting there is no headstock clamp.  I thought they were screwed direct to the bed.  You learn something every day.  Given that any movement under load is unlikely at this point, then yes, steel would be a good choice for a replacement.  I still maintain, however, that a material with better bearing properties would be desirable for a tailstock clamp, where inadvertent movement can take place from time to time.  To answer a point from an earlier post, this has nothing to do with surface finish, but is related to the inherent bearing properties of the material under boundary lubrication conditions and its ability to gall.

Sincerely,

Eddie



From: "john kling jkling222@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017, 2:43
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 
Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.



From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.
They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
 
And there is no headstock clamp.
 
Eddie
 

From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet ...com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
 
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
 
Eddie

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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I t hought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
 
Eddie
 

From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups..com>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
not rocket science make one out of steel
 
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
 
I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.
I probably used that for 10 years or more.
 
I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
 
Greg Mekkes
 
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Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

Ondrej Krejci
 

There is no sliding on clamp surfaces, quite the contrary.  Bronzing clamp contacted surfaces to reduce friction is a waste of time for the purpose of allowing headstocks and tailstocks to slide away so that a workpiece held between centres can fly about and maim someone is a bad idea.If one would look carefully at the devices keeping the carriage fast against the ways, he would find that they are steel plates that have been shimmed for proper clearance, note that there is no plating of bronze.Please stop making up nonsense.

OK

On Friday, September 29, 2017 11:19 AM, "Nelson Collar nel2lar@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  that lathe is 100 years old is there not any areas of footprint from pasitin of headstock?
On Friday, September 29, 2017, 8:53:23 AM EDT, Greg Mekkes mekkes2020@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  It is one of two headstock clamps. This being my first lathe adventure, of the metalworking variety, I am intrigued by the idea that others would bolt directly to the bed. That would remove any gear alignment issues that I will have to look out for, especially considering that it came without a spindle gear or reverse tumbler. May have to reverse engineer the proper headstock position based on where gears can end up being positioned on the lead screw and banjo piece. The headstock was already removed from the bed when I picked it up. By any chance would it be designed so that the edge of the headstock is supposed to line up with the edge of the end of the bed??
Greg
On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:58 AM, r m rlm_mcv@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Eddie, I entirely agree with with your post tonight. We just needed to wait for confirmation from Greg on what he was needing.  If these South Bends are going to last another 100 years it is best to use the right material in the potential wear/gall areas, as you have recommended.

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

  Dear all,
My humble apologies for suggesting there is no headstock clamp.  I thought they were screwed direct to the bed.  You learn something every day.  Given that any movement under load is unlikely at this point, then yes, steel would be a good choice for a replacement.  I still maintain, however, that a material with better bearing properties would be desirable for a tailstock clamp, where inadvertent movement can take place from time to time.  To answer a point from an earlier post, this has nothing to do with surface finish, but is related to the inherent bearing properties of the material under boundary lubrication conditions and its ability to gall.
Sincerely,
Eddie


From: "john kling jkling222@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017, 2:43
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

  I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.

On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.

From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@btdtrf.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

  THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock. They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.    Jim B.  From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"    The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.  And there is no headstock clamp.  Eddie  From: "r m rlm_mcv@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"    Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.  From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet..com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"    Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?  S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.  Eddie
< br clear="none">From: "r m rlm_mcv@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"    Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I thought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move???   From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"    I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.  Eddie  From: "oscar kern kernbigo@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"    not rocket science make one out of steel  On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@btdtrf.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:    I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways. I probably used that for 10 years or more.  I would try, Ted, latheman2@aol.com and see if he has a part.   Jim B.  From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"   This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help. Greg Mekkes  
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Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

Nelson Collar
 

that lathe is 100 years old is there not any areas of footprint from pasitin of headstock?

On Friday, September 29, 2017, 8:53:23 AM EDT, Greg Mekkes mekkes2020@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]


 

It is one of two headstock clamps. This being my first lathe adventure, of the metalworking variety, I am intrigued by the idea that others would bolt directly to the bed. That would remove any gear alignment issues that I will have to look out for, especially considering that it came without a spindle gear or reverse tumbler. May have to reverse engineer the proper headstock position based on where gears can end up being positioned on the lead screw and banjo piece. The headstock was already removed from the bed when I picked it up. By any chance would it be designed so that the edge of the headstock is supposed to line up with the edge of the end of the bed??

Greg

On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:58 AM, r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

Eddie, I entirely agree with with your post tonight. We just needed to wait for confirmation from Greg on what he was needing.  If these South Bends are going to last another 100 years it is best to use the right material in the potential wear/gall areas, as you have recommended.



From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
Dear all,

My humble apologies for suggesting there is no headstock clamp.  I thought they were screwed direct to the bed.  You learn something every day.  Given that any movement under load is unlikely at this point, then yes, steel would be a good choice for a replacement.  I still maintain, however, that a material with better bearing properties would be desirable for a tailstock clamp, where inadvertent movement can take place from time to time.  To answer a point from an earlier post, this has nothing to do with surface finish, but is related to the inherent bearing properties of the material under boundary lubrication conditions and its ability to gall.

Sincerely,

Eddie



From: "john kling jkling222@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017, 2:43
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 
Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.



From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.
They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
 
And there is no headstock clamp.
 
Eddie
 

From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet ..com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
 
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
 
Eddie

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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I t hought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
 
Eddie
 

From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
not rocket science make one out of steel
 
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
 
I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.
I probably used that for 10 years or more.
 
I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
 
Greg Mekkes
 
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Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

Paolo Amedeo
 

Greg,
To be honest, longitudinal placement of the headstock on the bed is not too critical. The ways (in your case the tailstock ways) take care of the axial alignment of the spindle (of course, the headstock must be perfectly fitted to the ways). All is left is to slide the headstock back and forth: as long as you clamp it down flush with the end of the bed +/- 1/16", you're fine. Most of the gears are affixed directly to the headstock and the others are on the banjo arm. It's rather simple to adjust the gears to align by shouldered bushings, calibrated washers, and shims, if necessary.

The most important thing with gears is to have the proper meshing and that their rotational axis is parallel.

Paolo
Damascus, MD

On 9/29/2017 8:50 AM, Greg Mekkes mekkes2020@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE] wrote:
It is one of two headstock clamps. This being my first lathe adventure, of the metalworking variety, I am intrigued by the idea that others would bolt directly to the bed. That would remove any gear alignment issues that I will have to look out for, especially considering that it came without a spindle gear or reverse tumbler. May have to reverse engineer the proper headstock position based on where gears can end up being positioned on the lead screw and banjo piece. The headstock was already removed from the bed when I picked it up. By any chance would it be designed so that the edge of the headstock is supposed to line up with the edge of the end of the bed??

Greg

On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:58 AM, r m rlm_mcv@yahoo.com <mailto:rlm_mcv@yahoo.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Eddie, I entirely agree with with your post tonight. We just needed to wait for confirmation from Greg on what he was needing.  If these South Bends are going to last another 100 years it is best to use the right material in the potential wear/gall areas, as you have recommended.


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*From:* "Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet.com <mailto:eddie.draper@btinternet.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*To:* "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2017 2:27 AM
*Subject:* Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

Dear all,

My humble apologies for suggesting there is no headstock clamp.  I thought they were screwed direct to the bed.  You learn something every day.  Given that any movement under load is unlikely at this point, then yes, steel would be a good choice for a replacement.  I still maintain, however, that a material with better bearing properties would be desirable for a tailstock clamp, where inadvertent movement can take place from time to time.  To answer a point from an earlier post, this has nothing to do with surface finish, but is related to the inherent bearing properties of the material under boundary lubrication conditions and its ability to gall.

Sincerely,

Eddie


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*From:* "john kling jkling222@yahoo.com <mailto:jkling222@yahoo.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*To:* "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*Sent:* Friday, 29 September 2017, 2:43
*Subject:* Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@yahoo.com <mailto:rlm_mcv@yahoo.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:


Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.


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*From:* "'Jim B. ' Jim@btdtrf.com <mailto:Jim@btdtrf.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*To:* SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
*Subject:* RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

*THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock. *
*They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same. *
**
Jim B.
**
*From:* SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
*To:* SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
And there is no headstock clamp.
Eddie
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*From:*"r m rlm_mcv@yahoo.com <mailto:rlm_mcv@yahoo.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*To:* "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*Sent:* Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
*Subject:* Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
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*From:*"Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet ..com <mailto:eddie.draper@btinternet.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*To:* "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
*Subject:* Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
Eddie

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*From:*"r m rlm_mcv@yahoo.com <mailto:rlm_mcv@yahoo.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*To:* "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBE%20NDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*Sent:* Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
*Subject:* Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I t hought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move???
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:*"Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet.com <mailto:eddie.draper@btinternet.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*To:* "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
*Subject:* Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this. If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
Eddie
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:*"oscar kern kernbigo@yahoo.com <mailto:kernbigo@yahoo.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*To:* "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>>
*Sent:* Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
*Subject:* Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
not rocket science make one out of steel
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@btdtrf.com <mailto:Jim@btdtrf.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
*I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways. *
*I probably used that for 10 years or more. *
**
*I would try, Ted, latheman2@aol.com <mailto:latheman2@aol.com> and see if he has a part. *
**
Jim B.
**
*From:*SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
*To:* southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com>
*Subject:* [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
Greg Mekkes
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Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

Greg Mekkes
 

It is one of two headstock clamps. This being my first lathe adventure, of the metalworking variety, I am intrigued by the idea that others would bolt directly to the bed. That would remove any gear alignment issues that I will have to look out for, especially considering that it came without a spindle gear or reverse tumbler. May have to reverse engineer the proper headstock position based on where gears can end up being positioned on the lead screw and banjo piece. The headstock was already removed from the bed when I picked it up. By any chance would it be designed so that the edge of the headstock is supposed to line up with the edge of the end of the bed??

Greg

On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:58 AM, r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

Eddie, I entirely agree with with your post tonight. We just needed to wait for confirmation from Greg on what he was needing.  If these South Bends are going to last another 100 years it is best to use the right material in the potential wear/gall areas, as you have recommended.



From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
Dear all,

My humble apologies for suggesting there is no headstock clamp.  I thought they were screwed direct to the bed.  You learn something every day.  Given that any movement under load is unlikely at this point, then yes, steel would be a good choice for a replacement.  I still maintain, however, that a material with better bearing properties would be desirable for a tailstock clamp, where inadvertent movement can take place from time to time.  To answer a point from an earlier post, this has nothing to do with surface finish, but is related to the inherent bearing properties of the material under boundary lubrication conditions and its ability to gall.

Sincerely,

Eddie



From: "john kling jkling222@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017, 2:43
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 
Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.



From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.
They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
 
And there is no headstock clamp.
 
Eddie
 

From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet ..com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
 
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
 
Eddie

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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I t hought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
 
Eddie
 

From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
not rocket science make one out of steel
 
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
 
I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.
I probably used that for 10 years or more.
 
I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
 
Greg Mekkes
 
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WALTER POLEY
 

I have the collet adapter to fit the 1 inch thru hole spindle.I purchased it for my SB 9 inch that has 2 1/4 by 8
threaded chuck with 1 3/8 thru hole it is too small to fit my lathe.It takes 5c collets.
Do you have 5c collets?Do you have the collet draw bar?
I have been searching for the large collet closer at a fair price.They go for $150 and up.
I will sell the small 5c collet adapter for $50 shipped. If you are interested.
wpoley@... or this gmail acc
thanks
Walter Poley


Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

rlm_mcv
 

Eddie, I entirely agree with with your post tonight. We just needed to wait for confirmation from Greg on what he was needing.  If these South Bends are going to last another 100 years it is best to use the right material in the potential wear/gall areas, as you have recommended.



From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..."
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
Dear all,

My humble apologies for suggesting there is no headstock clamp.  I thought they were screwed direct to the bed.  You learn something every day.  Given that any movement under load is unlikely at this point, then yes, steel would be a good choice for a replacement.  I still maintain, however, that a material with better bearing properties would be desirable for a tailstock clamp, where inadvertent movement can take place from time to time.  To answer a point from an earlier post, this has nothing to do with surface finish, but is related to the inherent bearing properties of the material under boundary lubrication conditions and its ability to gall.

Sincerely,

Eddie



From: "john kling jkling222@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..."
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017, 2:43
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.



From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.
They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
 
And there is no headstock clamp.
 
Eddie
 

From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet .com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
 
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
 
Eddie

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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I t hought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
 
Eddie
 

From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
not rocket science make one out of steel
 
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
 
I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.
I probably used that for 10 years or more.
 
I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
 
Greg Mekkes
 
alt
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Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

Dear all,

My humble apologies for suggesting there is no headstock clamp.  I thought they were screwed direct to the bed.  You learn something every day.  Given that any movement under load is unlikely at this point, then yes, steel would be a good choice for a replacement.  I still maintain, however, that a material with better bearing properties would be desirable for a tailstock clamp, where inadvertent movement can take place from time to time.  To answer a point from an earlier post, this has nothing to do with surface finish, but is related to the inherent bearing properties of the material under boundary lubrication conditions and its ability to gall.

Sincerely,

Eddie



From: "john kling jkling222@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..."
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017, 2:43
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.



From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.
They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
 
And there is no headstock clamp.
 
Eddie
 

From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet .com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
 
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
 
Eddie

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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I t hought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
 
Eddie
 

From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
not rocket science make one out of steel
 
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
 
I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.
I probably used that for 10 years or more.
 
I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
 
Greg Mekkes
 
alt
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Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

rlm_mcv
 

Totally understand I had a 24 and never did see another.  Have a 9 and 16 so much easier to locate parts.  Good thing is most of the parts you can make, like the headstock clamp you need.



From: "Greg Mekkes mekkes2020@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..."
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
Didn't mean to cause a headache :) Amazing how difficult it is to find missing parts for an 18", and amazing how many 9" and 10" parts are readily available. So thankful for eveyone's willingness to jump in and help!!

Greg



From: "john kling jkling222@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..."
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.



From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.
They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
 
And there is no headstock clamp.
 
Eddie
 

From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
 
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
 
Eddie

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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I thought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
 
Eddie
 

From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
not rocket science make one out of steel
 
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
 
I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.
I probably used that for 10 years or more.
 
I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
 
Greg Mekkes
 
alt
Virus-free. www.avast.com
 
 
 
 
 
 









Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

Greg Mekkes
 

Didn't mean to cause a headache :) Amazing how difficult it is to find missing parts for an 18", and amazing how many 9" and 10" parts are readily available. So thankful for eveyone's willingness to jump in and help!!

Greg



From: "john kling jkling222@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.



From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.
They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
 
And there is no headstock clamp.
 
Eddie
 

From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
 
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
 
Eddie

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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I thought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
 
Eddie
 

From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
not rocket science make one out of steel
 
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
 
I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.
I probably used that for 10 years or more.
 
I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
 
Greg Mekkes
 
alt
Virus-free. www.avast.com
 
 
 
 
 
 







Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

john kling
 

I read here that there is no head stock clamp. Is this splitting hairs? The headstock is bolted from below through castings that slide on the lower side of the ways - sounds like a clamp to me.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:43 PM, "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.



From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.
They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.
 
 
Jim B.
 
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Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
 
And there is no headstock clamp.
 
Eddie
 

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Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
 
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
 
Eddie

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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I thought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
 
Eddie
 

From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
not rocket science make one out of steel
 
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
 
I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.
I probably used that for 10 years or more.
 
I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.
 
 
Jim B.
 
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To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
 
Greg Mekkes
 
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Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

rlm_mcv
 

Thank You!! I was getting tired of bashing heads this AM and gave up.



From: "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 
THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.
They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.
 
And there is no headstock clamp.
 
Eddie
 

From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?
 
S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.
 
Eddie

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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I thought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 
 

From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.
 
Eddie
 

From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
not rocket science make one out of steel
 
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
 
I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.
I probably used that for 10 years or more.
 
I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.
 
 
Jim B.
 
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
 
This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.
 
Greg Mekkes
 
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Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

Jim_B
 

THERE IS TO a headstock clamp. In fact there are two on each headstock.

They are similar to the tailstock clamp but not the same.

 

 

Jim B.

 

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:54 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 

 

The accompanying pic in the original post is a fractured tailstock clamp.  I think we've all been assuming that the original post title resulted from a central processor / digital connection error condition.

 

And there is no headstock clamp.

 

Eddie

 


From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 10:30
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 

 

Eddie the original post is about a headstock clamp as noted in the title of the thread not a tailstock.

 


From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 

 

Never had a tailstock shift under load, e.g. when drilling a large hole?

 

S/B used cast iron for more reasons than just the cheapness of production, although i grant you, that would have played a big part.

 

Eddie


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From: "r m rlm_mcv@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017, 9:09
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 

 

Why would a bearing surface be needed for a headstock clamp?  I thought the idea of that clamp was to lock the head to the bed and never move??? 

 


From: "Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 

 

I wouldn't use steel as it isn't a good bearing metal for an application such as this.  If all you have is steel, put some braze on the rubbing surfaces and then machine it smooth, or fit brass slippers.

 

Eddie

 


From: "oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017, 21:33
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 

 

not rocket science make one out of steel

 

On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:03 PM, "'Jim B. ' Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

 

I once broke the tailstock clamp on my SB-9. I eventually found a replacement on eBay but in the meantime, many years, I used a brass block, milled to fit the bed width and with a slight step so it road only on the bottom of the ways.

I probably used that for 10 years or more.

 

I would try, Ted, latheman2@... and see if he has a part.

 

 

Jim B.

 

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:46 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

 

 

This is the headstock clamp at the end of the lathe. It is marked "13 16 18", so there appears to be some commonality among sizes. The one I have is cracked in half, and I would be interested in any leads on finding a replacement for it. A composite photo is attached. Thank you for your help.

 

Greg Mekkes

 

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Re: Heavy 10 identification help needed

Jim_B
 

The Catalog #199 is a 10R. It’s a heavy 10 with a small bore. It takes 11/16 or #4 collets. The thread is 1-7/8 by 8 TPI thread.

The other Heavy 10 is a 10 L. it take 5C collets and has a 2-1/4 by 8 TPI thread.

Neither take 3 C collets.

Whichever one you have it need an adapter/sleeve to take the collet.

 

#4 collets are made out of unobtanium. Good Luck.

 

Jim B.

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:00 PM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Heavy 10 identification help needed

 

 

I own a SB Heavy 10 and stil do not exactly know what specs it has for the headspindle. It fits my SB 4206-47 chuck made by Skinner Chuck CO. It is an 8p thread. I'm looking for a nose pice to fit collets. I think it fits C3 collets??? 
There are no partnumbers on the dog plate, faceplate or the threadprotector nut i allso own.

 

What is the measurement of the headspindle thread? 1 1/16" or what else could it be? If I measure the threads OD of the headspindle my caliper reading show 48.34mm or 1.903".

Model-A-10     Cat 199-AF      677RKX

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/members/detail.aspx?id=42347

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=31583

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=31580

 


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Re: Heavy 10 identification help needed

George Meinschein <george.meinschein@...>
 

Ruud,
What is the ID of the hole through the headstock spindle, 1" or 1-3/8"?  The 1" through hole spindle should have a 1.875" OD thread.

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500
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On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:00 PM, silverrs@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

I own a SB Heavy 10 and stil do not exactly know what specs it has for the headspindle. It fits my SB 4206-47 chuck made by Skinner Chuck CO. It is an 8p thread. I'm looking for a nose pice to fit collets. I think it fits C3 collets??? 
There are no partnumbers on the dog plate, faceplate or the threadprotector nut i allso own.


What is the measurement of the headspindle thread? 1 1/16" or what else could it be? If I measure the threads OD of the headspindle my caliper reading show 48.34mm or 1.903".

Model-A-10     Cat 199-AF      677RKX

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/members/detail.aspx?id=42347

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=31583

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=31580





Re: Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"

Paolo Amedeo
 

If we were talking about a more complicate part/casting, I would agree that the best solution would be to braze it back together.

However, this is rather simple part, without any critical dimension, broken exactly through the threads. Reconstructing it by brazing doesn't seem worth the effort to me. Moreover, for this kind of clamps, steel is a much better choice, having much more yield strength than cast iron: you over-tighten it a little bit, and it will forgive you.

Paolo


On 9/28/2017 3:34 PM, Greg Mekkes mekkes2020@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] wrote:
 
Yes I have sent George a message, and it is a headstock clamp. Two headstock clamps and one tailstock clamp, this is the thinner headstock clamp at end, much lower clearance to fit it in, much thinner than the other two clamps which look structurally much more convincing. Thank you, all of you, for your time and input!!

On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:22 AM, 'R' roefa@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 
Headstock, Tailstock, Whatever? ... if the broken piece in the OP picture is the problem, George Burton has the best deal  !
Very generous, George!  btw Re: lost art, yes! but Keith Fenner on Youtube is an artist, and his postings will help perpetuate
the skill. OP, take kind George up on his offer (and clear up the confusion about where this broken piece is being used).
Cheers! :)
Roger Memphis
 
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From: "George Burton geobur657@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" [SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Date: 09/28/2017 12:52 AM
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Looking for headstock clamp for 1916 18"
 
Greg.
I'll be glad to braze it back together for no charge. I've been doing this type of work for many years. It now seems to be a lost art. Just send me a PM for more information.
Geo in Texas


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