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Re: Southbend lathe from 1911/12.

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

Let’s start with a picture.

If it is a SB it is very early.

But we have been through this before.

Is there anything, a plate or tag that actually says SB.

To post a picture, if you are using email just attach it to your reply. Otherwise:

o to the home page.

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/southbendlathe/info

 

Make sure you are logged in.

 

Click on photos. It’s just below the home page picture and to the left of center.

 

Or if you are sure you are logged in use this direct link

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/southbendlathe/photos/albums

 

If you do not already have an Album, click on New Album, to the right and fill out the two lines of information.

 

Click on add photo.

 

If you have an Album go to it. It is shown by name and by a picture from it.

If you are using IE-8 or earlier (Windows XP) THIS MAY NOT WORK.

The new NEO format downloads a picture for each folder. There was an initial problem with IE-8. Neo would stop at 9 folders and tries to go to never-never land. This appears to have been corrected. IE-9 (Windows Vista/Windows 7) However works OK.

 

If so, use the "New Album" option until YAHOO fixes it for IE-8

 

I have also checked IE-9 running on Windows 7. This works fine and will open all Folders

Additionaly I checked an iPad running IOS-6 There is no Issue there.

 

It may help to find you folder if you click on the "pull Down" next to "New Folder" and set it to Alphabetical, rather than a date related order.

BN (Before NEO) there was a "Creator" option which listed the files by the Yahoo name of the creator. That was MUCH easier to find.

 

Click on the picture. This opens you folder.

Click on the purple box to the right "+Add Photos"

 

Tell the folders where the photo is on your computer.

 

Double click on you picture or click on open.

 

THEN

 

Click on “Post Photo”

 

If you are set up to see “Albums”  (top left pull down) a

 

 

Jim B.

 

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:00 PM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Southbend lathe from 1911/12.

 

 

I just bought a lathe from craigslist. Not sure if I got my money's worth, or how to find accessories/parts. S/N 1239. Not in bad condition. There is wear on the crosslide screw for sure, just over 3/4 of a turn to start moving the other way, and .100 feed gives .090. There are no dials on the compound, or the carriage handwheels. Just the cross-slide which is tiny in diameter. Only power feeds one direction, and no power feed on the cross slide. 

 

Where can I find new screws/nuts for the slide and compound?

Is there any way to rig it for reverse feed?

The spindle seems to be 1 1/8" 10TPI, can't find anything that matches that. The bore is tiiiiny. about 3/8" I think. any way to open that up some?

 

One of the faces of the jaws is damaged on the 3 jaw chuck. Anywhere to replace that without replacing the whole chuck?

 

I paid $500, came with a 4 jaw chuck, a face plate, a tiny 4 jaw chuck, and rocker tool post, a knurling tool, and 1/4 straight, and up angle tool holders, and all the gears except the one I need to do 24tpi threading. leather belt could use a replacement. Was that a bad deal. It's my first lathe, I would love to have better, but don't have the money right now. 


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Re: Southbend lathe from 1911/12.

m. allan noah
 

Jeff- where are you located? One of us might be local and could help you. Also, could you show some pictures? SBs of that age are quite rare.

allan

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 8:00 PM, jeff@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

I just bought a lathe from craigslist. Not sure if I got my money's worth, or how to find accessories/parts. S/N 1239. Not in bad condition. There is wear on the crosslide screw for sure, just over 3/4 of a turn to start moving the other way, and .100 feed gives .090. There are no dials on the compound, or the carriage handwheels. Just the cross-slide which is tiny in diameter. Only power feeds one direction, and no power feed on the cross slide. 

 

Where can I find new screws/nuts for the slide and compound?

Is there any way to rig it for reverse feed?

The spindle seems to be 1 1/8" 10TPI, can't find anything that matches that. The bore is tiiiiny. about 3/8" I think. any way to open that up some?

 

One of the faces of the jaws is damaged on the 3 jaw chuck. Anywhere to replace that without replacing the whole chuck?

 

I paid $500, came with a 4 jaw chuck, a face plate, a tiny 4 jaw chuck, and rocker tool post, a knurling tool, and 1/4 straight, and up angle tool holders, and all the gears except the one I need to do 24tpi threading. leather belt could use a replacement. Was that a bad deal. It's my first lathe, I would love to have better, but don't have the money right now. 




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Re: I need of 1 to 1.5 hp 3 phase 220v 3450 rpm

David Wood
 

Will check tomorrow for you

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On May 5, 2016 3:32 PM, "halbert____1@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

I need of 1 to 1.5 hp 3 phase 220v 3450 rpm motor 

I got into a new project, it had a 3 phase 1hp 3450 motor

so i bought a vdf for 2hp hooked it up ..nothing

tore down the motor,,winding fried

So if anyone has one to get rid of let me know.

thanks Jim Hudson, Prescott Arizona



Southbend lathe from 1911/12.

jeff sondag
 

I just bought a lathe from craigslist. Not sure if I got my money's worth, or how to find accessories/parts. S/N 1239. Not in bad condition. There is wear on the crosslide screw for sure, just over 3/4 of a turn to start moving the other way, and .100 feed gives .090. There are no dials on the compound, or the carriage handwheels. Just the cross-slide which is tiny in diameter. Only power feeds one direction, and no power feed on the cross slide. 

 

Where can I find new screws/nuts for the slide and compound?

Is there any way to rig it for reverse feed?

The spindle seems to be 1 1/8" 10TPI, can't find anything that matches that. The bore is tiiiiny. about 3/8" I think. any way to open that up some?

 

One of the faces of the jaws is damaged on the 3 jaw chuck. Anywhere to replace that without replacing the whole chuck?

 

I paid $500, came with a 4 jaw chuck, a face plate, a tiny 4 jaw chuck, and rocker tool post, a knurling tool, and 1/4 straight, and up angle tool holders, and all the gears except the one I need to do 24tpi threading. leather belt could use a replacement. Was that a bad deal. It's my first lathe, I would love to have better, but don't have the money right now. 


Re: I need of 1 to 1.5 hp 3 phase 220v 3450 rpm

Ruth Busch
 

I have one in a friend's barn; I think it is still there.  It is as I recall 3PH, 1.0 HP. two speed.  I removed it from a SB heavy 10 1958.  The problem with older motors and VFDs is the motor windings often times can not hold up to the non sinusoidal input from a VFD.

The motor and I are in Minnesota.



From: "halbert____1@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:32:38 PM
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] I need of 1 to 1.5 hp 3 phase 220v 3450 rpm

 

I need of 1 to 1.5 hp 3 phase 220v 3450 rpm motor 

I got into a new project, it had a 3 phase 1hp 3450 motor

so i bought a vdf for 2hp hooked it up ..nothing

tore down the motor,,winding fried

So if anyone has one to get rid of let me know.

thanks Jim Hudson, Prescott Arizona




Re: thrust beating upgrade

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

One word of caution.

There is a key holding the gear to the spindle.

You can only move the gear back to where the face is even with the key with the take up nut. That should be just enough to get a puller in place.

If you feel a lot of resistance STOP.

 

 

Jim B.

 

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 9:31 PM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: thrust beating upgrade

 

 

I'll give it a try.  I thought about it, but wasn't sure if the threads on the collar were strong enough.


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I need of 1 to 1.5 hp 3 phase 220v 3450 rpm

jim and rose
 

I need of 1 to 1.5 hp 3 phase 220v 3450 rpm motor 

I got into a new project, it had a 3 phase 1hp 3450 motor

so i bought a vdf for 2hp hooked it up ..nothing

tore down the motor,,winding fried

So if anyone has one to get rid of let me know.

thanks Jim Hudson, Prescott Arizona



Re: thrust beating upgrade

Ray De Jong
 

Sorry to butt in but for a good illustration of that puller accessory just google 'otc bearing separator '. my puller set has three sizes and these are very handy to have and use in both the puller set and in the hydraulic press. Mainly for pulling bearings when situated close to shaft shoulders etc, they certainly work for pulling the spindle gear. A nice and useful little "project"


On May 5, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

Or better still, make your own puller jaws by creating a circular hole with thin inner edge but thicker area around it, sawing it in half so it can go around the shaft, bolt the 2 halves back together and pull on that with a normal puller or holes tapped into the new piece with a cross bar across the shaft end.  Such devices are available (always the wrong size for the job) as part of puller kits.

Eddie



From: "ib golfr ibgolfr@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016, 13:30
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: thrust beating upgrade

 
One needs to be careful with the take up collar, attempting to use it with force to remove the pressed on gear. The collar is a casting and could break. Even tightening the locking screw too much can snap off the threaded end. I would prefer to grind the outside edges off a cheap puller so it can enter the space between the collar and gear before taking a chance of breaking the collar itself...

Eric

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Re: thrust beating upgrade

oscar kern <kernbigo@...>
 

2 large screw drivers worked fine on my wide bed
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On Thu, 5/5/16, ib golfr ibgolfr@gmail.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: thrust beating upgrade
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 5, 2016, 7:30 AM


 









One needs to be careful with the
take up collar, attempting to use it with force to remove
the pressed on gear. The collar is a casting and could
break. Even tightening the locking screw too much can snap
off the threaded end. I would prefer to grind the outside
edges off a cheap puller so it can enter the space between
the collar and gear before taking a chance of breaking the
collar itself...
Eric
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U.S. politicians to two
Terms.  One in office and one in prison.



 











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Re: thrust beating upgrade

eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

Or better still, make your own puller jaws by creating a circular hole with thin inner edge but thicker area around it, sawing it in half so it can go around the shaft, bolt the 2 halves back together and pull on that with a normal puller or holes tapped into the new piece with a cross bar across the shaft end.  Such devices are available (always the wrong size for the job) as part of puller kits.

Eddie



From: "ib golfr ibgolfr@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016, 13:30
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: thrust beating upgrade

 
One needs to be careful with the take up collar, attempting to use it with force to remove the pressed on gear. The collar is a casting and could break. Even tightening the locking screw too much can snap off the threaded end. I would prefer to grind the outside edges off a cheap puller so it can enter the space between the collar and gear before taking a chance of breaking the collar itself...

Eric

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Re: thrust beating upgrade

Eric Isom
 

One needs to be careful with the take up collar, attempting to use it with force to remove the pressed on gear. The collar is a casting and could break. Even tightening the locking screw too much can snap off the threaded end. I would prefer to grind the outside edges off a cheap puller so it can enter the space between the collar and gear before taking a chance of breaking the collar itself...

Eric

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Re: thrust beating upgrade

hamelchris55
 

I'll give it a try.  I thought about it, but wasn't sure if the threads on the collar were strong enough.


Re: thrust beating upgrade

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

 

As John noted; that was how I got the gear to move back on my Heavy 10. I did remove the locking screw  from the split nut, and I used the pin spanner for removing the collet insert to turn the split nut.

The puller I used was for removing battery terminals. They have a much thinner finger than gear pullers. I also have ground it a bit thinner over the years.

 

Jim B.

 

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:52 PM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: thrust beating upgrade

 

 

Loosen the screw in the threaded collar and unscrew the collar from the spindle. The collar will force the gear off the end. Use a pin spanner for the required force if needed. If not enough thread to completely get the gear off, retighten the collar and you have probably gained enough space to get your gear puller on the gear.

 

John


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Re: thrust beating upgrade

comstock_friend
 

Loosen the screw in the threaded collar and unscrew the collar from the spindle. The collar will force the gear off the end. Use a pin spanner for the required force if needed. If not enough thread to completely get the gear off, retighten the collar and you have probably gained enough space to get your gear puller on the gear.

John


Re: CRAYON PIC

Mark Hofer
 

LOL!  Wonderfully funny idea!  :)
M
 

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From: "Gregg Eshelman g_alan_e@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: 5/4/2016 2:28:19 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] CRAYON PIC
 
 

I propose a new tooling standard, the Crayon Taper or CT for short. A CT the size of a Standard Crayon shall be CT-0.
   
 



Re: How one thing leads to another (Supposed to be funny)

eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

And weedkiller.  Hope the attached isn't too big.  This is a cartridge of expensive concentrated glyphosphate for a hand held spinner atomiser.  The stuff comes out like specks of white emulsion paint so you can see where you've treated.  It had stood over 2 winters and another cartridge from the same batch caused endless trouble with nozzle blockages due to settling. An hour of this treatment settled its hash!

Eddie



From: "john kling jkling222@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..."
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016, 20:35
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] How one thing leads to another (Supposed to be funny)

 
You can also put spay paint cans in a set off center independent jaw chucks  and run a slow speed to shake them up.


On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 2:09 PM, "Mark Hofer markahofer@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
True enough, but once recycled, one needs only a single crayon to have all colors needed.......much more convenient that way
M


On May 3, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

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Optimum angle probably depends on the colour!  

From the photo, you do not appear to have engaged in adequate swarf segregation.  It will have to be incinerated rather than recycled.  Slapped wrist.

Eddie

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Re: CRAYON PIC

Gregg Eshelman
 

I propose a new tooling standard, the Crayon Taper or CT for short. A CT the size of a Standard Crayon shall be CT-0.


Re: How one thing leads to another (Supposed to be funny)

john kling
 

Some of the home/garage targeted early lathes contained a power source that could be directed at a variety of tasks. For example Goodell Pratt lathes, had arbors for grinding and buffing and scroll saw attachments. Most lathes were capable of line boring and most had milling attachments available.


On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 3:35 PM, "john kling jkling222@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
You can also put spay paint cans in a set off center independent jaw chucks  and run a slow speed to shake them up.


On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 2:09 PM, "Mark Hofer markahofer@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
True enough, but once recycled, one needs only a single crayon to have all colors needed.......much more convenient that way
M


On May 3, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


Optimum angle probably depends on the colour!  

From the photo, you do not appear to have engaged in adequate swarf segregation.  It will have to be incinerated rather than recycled.  Slapped wrist.

Eddie







Re: thrust beating upgrade [1 Attachment]

oscar kern <kernbigo@...>
 

don't use a puller use 2 large screwdrivers
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On Tue, 5/3/16, hamelchris55@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] thrust beating upgrade [1 Attachment]
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016, 11:53 AM


 









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I bought the needle type thrust bearing and the two
washers from McMaster Carr and was planning to change it out
today.  I was told the gear on the end of the spindle was a
pressed fit and a simple gear puller would remove. 
Unfortunately, my problem was that there was not enough
clearance to hook the puller behind the gear.  I am also
questioning the idea of a pressed fit since the threads from
the take up nut seem to extend into it.  I have put it all
back together and will tackle it another day.  I have been
told my lathe is a wide nine built about 1937









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Re: How one thing leads to another (Supposed to be funny)

john kling
 

You can also put spay paint cans in a set off center independent jaw chucks  and run a slow speed to shake them up.


On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 2:09 PM, "Mark Hofer markahofer@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
True enough, but once recycled, one needs only a single crayon to have all colors needed.......much more convenient that way
M


On May 3, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


Optimum angle probably depends on the colour!  

From the photo, you do not appear to have engaged in adequate swarf segregation.  It will have to be incinerated rather than recycled.  Slapped wrist.

Eddie




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