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Re: Getting all the stuff I need

Gregg Eshelman
 

On 1/14/2015 10:12 PM, bczygan@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE] wrote:


Already broke off a screw holding the bull gear cover on. And bull gear
is stripped of more than a few teeth and the back gear assembly is
mangled pretty bad. Small gear stripped of teeth and big gear very
messed up and cylinder has a big hole blown in it.
Having a look at the four gears in the back gear drive is pretty much the #1 thing to do when buying a used lathe. Broken teeth quickly chip away at the price you should expect to pay.

Fortunately for many models of South Bend the gears are fairly easy to find used.


New owner: ID questions - Model A

yahoo@...
 

Hi.  I'm brand new to the forum (lots of info here, though - thanks everyone!).


I just purchased a South Bend Model A lathe from the estate of an old friend here in California, but am having trouble identifying exactly what model/variation it is.  It runs, but appears to need some work, as gears don't change easily, no reverse direction, 110v motor gets pretty hot when trying to run at higher speeds (and never gets up to speed), funky looking wiring, etc.  I'm starting to clean it and am reading about maintenance, but it would be helpful to get complete info about what model/variation it is, so I can do more accurate online searches.


I think it might be a 10L or Heavy 10.  It is a floor/cabinet model with motor underneath, and sits on U-shaped tubular legs.


Ser. No. on the operator side way is: 5649RKL11

Ser. No. on the far way is: UB104R

Plate reads:  Cat. # CL 187 ZB

Bed Length: 3 1/2


I have a fair bit of experience working on a larger Webb lathe and Bridgeport mills (I'm and amateur, but volunteer as a machinist in an aircraft museum's restoration shop), but am having more difficulty getting oriented on this South Bend.  I'm not sure if some of the difficulties with things not seeming to work properly are due to my inexperience with this lathe, or because it's been sitting idle for so long (with little maintenance done on it by the previous owner for about 40 years).


I'd prefer not to have to tackle a full restoration, and can live with less-than-pristine cosmetics over good function.


I appreciate any advice and directions that might be offered here.  (I've already downloaded lots of the files here on the forum, and am poring through them.)


Thanks,




Scott Highton




Re: Getting all the stuff I need

bczygan
 

Already broke off a screw holding the bull gear cover on. And bull gear is stripped of more than a few teeth and the back gear assembly is mangled pretty bad. Small gear stripped of teeth and big gear very messed up and cylinder has a big hole blown in it.

I'm almost afraid to look at the gearbox.

Bill


Re: Got my QCTP!

bczygan
 


that would work if my lathe had the lantern tool post, or if the other two lathes weren't buried in my shed.

Maybe I can duck tape the new post on temporarily and use that. : )


Re: 10K SN 9387KKR7

lance
 

KKR

10 “ SWING
Quick Change Gear (QCG), Friction Feed Apron, 
Underneath Motor Drive (UMD
Taper Key Lock Spindle

On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:16 PM, btdtrf btdtrf@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


Shipped March 63

Jim B,


Re: 10K SN 9387KKR7

btdtrf <btdtrf@...>
 

Shipped March 63

Jim B,

On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:44 PM, Richard E Pratt prattri@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

I have lurked on this list for years and have learned a lot from the group. Since Cincinnati has been cold for a while and I have don't have anything better to do, I thought I would ask what you guys know about my lathe. I brought it about 10 years.

 

 


Re: Getting all the stuff I need

David Rysdam <david@...>
 

"bczygan@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
writes:
What have I missed?
Time?


10K SN 9387KKR7

repratt65
 

I have lurked on this list for years and have learned a lot from the group. Since Cincinnati has been cold for a while and I have don't have anything better to do, I thought I would ask what you guys know about my lathe. I brought it about 10 years.

 

 


Re: Got my QCTP!

btdtrf <btdtrf@...>
 

There is no need to use a mill to trim the nut for the actor. It can all be done on a lathe with a 4-jaw chuck. I think the process is in the files section. If not I will be home Saturday and I can post it then.  

Jim B,

On Jan 14, 2015, at 4:17 PM, bczygan@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

From Tools4Cheap

Very cool!!!

Now I gotta borow a mill to cut the wedge for the compound. I have a call in to a former boss (One-man machine shop owner).

I got the set , a parting tool and the 5 piece tool set from Tools4Cheap,

So I am such a newbie, that I don't even know how you use the 5 different tool orientations. I do have some idea about the 5 different tool holders though.

Bill



Re: Getting all the stuff I need

James Rice
 

As you progress there will be fasteners that stripped and had to be drilled out or have been substituted by previous owners, gears that were hidden that have chipped teeth, bushings worn beyond their tolerances and even maybe screws or nuts from the compound or saddle that may be too worn.  Remember, rebuilding the machine is as much fun as using it.

James

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:53 AM, bczygan@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

So with 3 SB lathes, I thought it is about time to get all the things I need to rehab them all.

Ordered the QCTP

Ordered the lubricants. Am getting gallons. Will bulk equivilents with the same ISO be good enough to substitute for the Mobil DTE 24 qand 26?

Will order the book and rebuild kits and grease from Wells.

Setting up a couple of bench grinders for polishing.

Will set up a bench.

Printing out everything I can from the net and putting it all in a binder.

Will set up an electrolisys tank.


What have I missed?


Bill



Re: Getting all the stuff I need

bczygan
 

I'm going to work on one sub assembly at a time.

Probably start with the tailstock

The bed.

The countershaft.

Then the carriage.

Then the saddle.

The headstock..

The gearbox.


When you list it like this, it seems like a lot of work!

Bill


Re: Getting all the stuff I need

lance
 

An organized system to keep all the sub-system parts together.

-l-

On Jan 14, 2015, at 12:53 PM, bczygan@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


Will set up a bench.

Printing out everything I can from the net and putting it all in a binder.

Will set up an electrolisys tank.


What have I missed?


Got my QCTP!

bczygan
 

From Tools4Cheap

Very cool!!!

Now I gotta borow a mill to cut the wedge for the compound. I have a call in to a former boss (One-man machine shop owner).

I got the set , a parting tool and the 5 piece tool set from Tools4Cheap,

So I am such a newbie, that I don't even know how you use the 5 different tool orientations. I do have some idea about the 5 different tool holders though.

Bill



Scroll chuck accuracy.

john kling
 

The total run out of new scroll chucks frequently vary from < .0004 to .003 inches. The price also varies with accuracy.  To shore up my knowledge what are the differences in manufacturing procedures that are behind this range of accuracy?


Getting all the stuff I need

bczygan
 

So with 3 SB lathes, I thought it is about time to get all the things I need to rehab them all.

Ordered the QCTP

Ordered the lubricants. Am getting gallons. Will bulk equivilents with the same ISO be good enough to substitute for the Mobil DTE 24 qand 26?

Will order the book and rebuild kits and grease from Wells.

Setting up a couple of bench grinders for polishing.

Will set up a bench.

Printing out everything I can from the net and putting it all in a binder.

Will set up an electrolisys tank.


What have I missed?


Bill


Re: 9A on CL with pristine ways

James Rice
 

I only paid $1000 and mine is 6 years newer and in about the same shape.  And mine is a underdrive cabinet model.

James


On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:55 AM, bczygan@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

Yeah,
  I'm happy with mine for 1/10 the price.


Re: 9A on CL with pristine ways

bczygan
 

Yeah,
  I'm happy with mine for 1/10 the price.


Re: 9A on CL with pristine ways

Marti
 

SN is 13128NAR which is circa1962

http://www.wswells.com/serial_number.html


Re: 9A on CL with pristine ways

Gregg Eshelman
 

On 1/13/2015 11:38 PM, martik777@gmail.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE] wrote:


South Bend Lathe - Model A
<http://frederick.craigslist.org/tls/4792826106.html>
So September 1948 is "late 60's"?


9A on CL with pristine ways

Marti
 

South Bend Lathe - Model A

 


Nice ways but pricey

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