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Re: pinion gear for 9A, 1924 mfger.

Steve Yasgur
 

Allan, here are the critical dimensions, less any info on gear pitch.


length of assembly:  2.32”
teeth: 46 large gear
14 pinion gear
diameter: 2.4” large gear
1.134 pinion gear
shaft diameter: 0.810
gear width: 0.447” large
0.527 pinion

These are caliper measurements only, so . . .

Ted (latheman2@...) sent a picture of an old complete assembly he has for sale, which may provide an answer.

Thanks!  Still interested in options!

Yaz


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Thank you. 

On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:29 PM, 'm. allan noah' kitno455@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

Steven, there was no 9A in 1924. I'm wondering if you don't have a
Series O wide-bed 9 inch lathe? Why don't you measure the outer
diameter of the pinion, and we'll see if a repair part can be found.

allan

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Stevan Yasgur steve@...
[SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
>
> Listmates—
>
> I have the above lathe with one broken pinion gear tooth, and a second tooth
> mashed and about to be torn off. picture attached. The pictures I’ve seen
> of replacement pinion gears/shafts don’t show the boss which is visible on
> the ways side of the gear the pinion shaft passes through. I suspect this
> construction is different from later models of the 9A apron as shown on a
> parts list I have. The larger gear behind it is double-keyed to the shaft.
> The big gear has 46 teeth.
>
> I need to replace the pinion gear, but am not sure what configuration to buy
> if one comes up on ebay. I checked with Grizzly, and their inventory of
> parts does not include that pinion gear. Further, it appears that the gear
> itself is really a gear-and-shaft construction. The “shaft” showing in this
> end shot is really the shaft that the gear revolves around.
>
> Any help enormously appreciated! Thanks!
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Stevan S. Yasgur
> Suite 550
> 3300 Edinborough Way
> Edina, MN 55435
> 952-893-9393
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Re: Leveling a SB9; Again.

sblatheman
 

Good memory. 

Ted

On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:55 PM, "'Jim B.' btdtrf@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

I remember a post from Ted, Latheman2@..., who worked at SB, stating that SB took pains to make the tops of the ways both flat and true to the ways.
Jim B
Pessimist sees the glass half empty.
Optimist sees the glass half full.
Engineer sees the glass twice as large as needed.

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Re: Leveling a SB9; Again.

Jack Dinan <jdinan@...>
 

Agreed that removing the twist is the goal and that it is an operation independent of leveling. And yet every instruction I've seen, including those from SB, has one begin the twist-removal process by leveling. Hmm.


This comes up often. In my opinion, making sure there in no TWIST is far more important. A lathe on a ship would never be level but could certainly be mounted with no twist. My lathe has no twist but is far from level and I have no trouble with accuracy. Just my humble opinion of course.

Mike from Canada

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, <mailto:jdinan@cox.net>jdinan@cox.net [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <<mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



I'm about to level and align my 9A.


According to Bulletin H-3, one places a precision level on the tops of the bed ways to carry out the leveling process.

But in a long-ago message, Turk cautioned that for SB lathes manufactured during and after WWII the tops of the ways were produced early in the manufacturing process and that these surfaces were not reliable for leveling.

What is the latest thinking on this issue?






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Re: Leveling a SB9; Again.

soupy1951ca
 

This comes up often. In my opinion, making sure there in no TWIST is far more important. A lathe on a ship would never be level but could certainly be mounted with no twist. My lathe has no twist but is far from level and I have no trouble with accuracy. Just my humble opinion of course.

Mike from Canada


On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, jdinan@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

I'm about to level and align my 9A.


According to Bulletin H-3, one places a precision level on the tops of the bed ways to carry out the leveling process.

But in a long-ago message, Turk cautioned that for SB lathes manufactured during and after WWII the tops of the ways were produced early in the manufacturing process and that these surfaces were not reliable for leveling. 

What is the latest thinking on this issue?






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Re: Leveling a SB9; Again.

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

I remember a post from Ted, Latheman2@AOL.com, who worked at SB, stating that SB took pains to make the tops of the ways both flat and true to the ways.
Jim B
Pessimist sees the glass half empty.
Optimist sees the glass half full.
Engineer sees the glass twice as large as needed.

Sent from my RAZR.


Leveling a SB9; Again.

jdinan@...
 

I'm about to level and align my 9A.

According to Bulletin H-3, one places a precision level on the tops of the bed ways to carry out the leveling process.

But in a long-ago message, Turk cautioned that for SB lathes manufactured during and after WWII the tops of the ways were produced early in the manufacturing process and that these surfaces were not reliable for leveling. 

What is the latest thinking on this issue?





Re: pinion gear for 9A, 1924 mfger. [3 Attachments]

sblatheman
 

If yours is the same as the gear on a 9" JR(I think it is), I have one for sale. Believe it or not, it is N.O.S. (~70 years old :-0) 
Anti-rust and dirt, not rust
Send me an email if you are interested.
Ted

On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:15 PM, "Stevan Yasgur steve@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


Listmates—

I have the above lathe with one broken pinion gear tooth, and a second tooth mashed and about to be torn off.  picture attached.  The pictures I’ve seen of replacement pinion gears/shafts don’t show the boss which is visible on the ways side of the gear the pinion shaft passes through.  I suspect this construction is different from later models of the 9A apron as shown on a parts list I have.  The larger gear behind it is double-keyed to the shaft.  The big gear has 46 teeth.

I need to replace the pinion gear, but am not sure what configuration to buy if one comes up on ebay.  I checked with Grizzly, and their inventory of parts does not include that pinion gear.  Further, it appears that the gear itself is really a gear-and-shaft construction.  The “shaft” showing in this end shot is really the shaft that the gear revolves around.

Any help enormously appreciated!  Thanks!

Steve



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Stevan S. Yasgur
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Edina, MN  55435
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Thank you. 


Re: pinion gear for 9A, 1924 mfger. [3 Attachments]

lance
 

Seems like it could be fixed with implanted rod and steel epoxy.
One or two adjacent teeth should be no problem.

lance
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On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Stevan Yasgur steve@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

Any help enormously appreciated!  Thanks!


Re: pinion gear for 9A, 1924 mfger. [3 Attachments]

m. allan noah
 

Steven, there was no 9A in 1924. I'm wondering if you don't have a
Series O wide-bed 9 inch lathe? Why don't you measure the outer
diameter of the pinion, and we'll see if a repair part can be found.

allan

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Stevan Yasgur steve@yazlaw.com
[SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Listmates—

I have the above lathe with one broken pinion gear tooth, and a second tooth
mashed and about to be torn off. picture attached. The pictures I’ve seen
of replacement pinion gears/shafts don’t show the boss which is visible on
the ways side of the gear the pinion shaft passes through. I suspect this
construction is different from later models of the 9A apron as shown on a
parts list I have. The larger gear behind it is double-keyed to the shaft.
The big gear has 46 teeth.

I need to replace the pinion gear, but am not sure what configuration to buy
if one comes up on ebay. I checked with Grizzly, and their inventory of
parts does not include that pinion gear. Further, it appears that the gear
itself is really a gear-and-shaft construction. The “shaft” showing in this
end shot is really the shaft that the gear revolves around.

Any help enormously appreciated! Thanks!

Steve








Stevan S. Yasgur
Suite 550
3300 Edinborough Way
Edina, MN 55435
952-893-9393
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communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you
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Thank you.



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pinion gear for 9A, 1924 mfger.

Steve Yasgur
 


Listmates—

I have the above lathe with one broken pinion gear tooth, and a second tooth mashed and about to be torn off.  picture attached.  The pictures I’ve seen of replacement pinion gears/shafts don’t show the boss which is visible on the ways side of the gear the pinion shaft passes through.  I suspect this construction is different from later models of the 9A apron as shown on a parts list I have.  The larger gear behind it is double-keyed to the shaft.  The big gear has 46 teeth.

I need to replace the pinion gear, but am not sure what configuration to buy if one comes up on ebay.  I checked with Grizzly, and their inventory of parts does not include that pinion gear.  Further, it appears that the gear itself is really a gear-and-shaft construction.  The “shaft” showing in this end shot is really the shaft that the gear revolves around.

Any help enormously appreciated!  Thanks!

Steve





Stevan S. Yasgur
Suite 550
3300 Edinborough Way
Edina, MN  55435
952-893-9393
NOTICE: This E-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. This email is not, nor shall it be deemed to be, legal advice or counsel, unless the recipient already has an attorney-client relationship with the firm or me. This email does not create an attorney-client relationship. 
Thank you. 


Re: oil felts for headstock bearings

ken campbell
 


on my plain bearing shafts i also directly apply a mixture of mobil spindle oil and moly disulphide .. on my sb i remove the bearing caps and drip on about every 20 use-hours, as i wonder if it would clog the felts.  takes about 5 minutes.  the moly grabs onto the metals and forms an emergency layer ...  ( they tell me ) .  of course i use spindle oil in the cups also.
 
i also use the mix on my swiss gear hobber machines.  they are so tight they have to be warmed up before running.
 
after 20 years, so far so good.  for daubing uses, i would guess the engine assembly lubes at NAPA would contain moly, check the label.
 
ken
 
 

 


Re: oil felts for headstock bearings

markfrazier16137@...
 

i'm not sure of model no.. It is a 9 inch model B . I know from the serial no. you said it was 1944. the oil cups are 90 degree cups feed in below the spindle. I don't know they need changed. probably still have originals in there. I was just going to do it to be safe if I didn't have to tear it down. I am running this lathe and try to go over it a section at a time when I get the chance.

Mark


Re: Old 9" top oiler in Pulaski, WI

carbure2003
 


Old 9" top oiler in Pulaski, WI

Gregg Eshelman
 

It's on a cabinet full of tooling and accessories.

http://bidopia.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co=2&weid=0&weiid=17177621

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Re: oil felts for headstock bearings

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

Which Model lathe?
If its a Workshop 9" or 10K you must pull the spindle.
Even the 10R/L require spindle removal.
Jim B
Pessimist sees the glass half empty.
Optimist sees the glass half full.
Engineer sees the glass twice as large as needed.

Sent from my RAZR.


oil felts for headstock bearings

markfrazier16137@...
 

Is it possible to change the capillary felts for the headstock bearings without tearing the headstock apart? has anyone done this?


Mark


Foot Master Casters

jy_tthr@...
 

I have four Foot Master, GDN R60 casters. They are ratted at 550lb each and include the build in ratchet. They were on a lathe. Mounted and never moved until they were removed. They are like new. Will include the bolts, nuts and washers. All for $150.00 plus shipping. If interested email me at; jy_tthr@....

Thank you, Jay


Re: Craig's List - 16" Southbend

RJ White
 

Thanks for posting that info.
 
RJ  White
619-405-1699


On Monday, October 20, 2014 5:30 AM, "'ARKnack' arknack@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:



Re: Lever action collet closer

oscar kern <kernbigo@...>
 

all different sizes


On Sunday, October 19, 2014 7:43 PM, "James Rice james.rice@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
But do they have big balls, the biggest balls of all?

Sorry, I'm out in the shop cleaning and organizing tools and hardware and that song by AC-DC just played on the radio.  I couldn't resist.

James

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:25 PM, oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
motion industry has balls 






Craig's List - 16" Southbend

ww_big_al
 

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