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Re: Old 9" top oiler in Pulaski, WI

carbure2003
 


Old 9" top oiler in Pulaski, WI

Gregg Eshelman
 

It's on a cabinet full of tooling and accessories.

http://bidopia.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co=2&weid=0&weiid=17177621

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Re: oil felts for headstock bearings

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

Which Model lathe?
If its a Workshop 9" or 10K you must pull the spindle.
Even the 10R/L require spindle removal.
Jim B
Pessimist sees the glass half empty.
Optimist sees the glass half full.
Engineer sees the glass twice as large as needed.

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oil felts for headstock bearings

markfrazier16137@...
 

Is it possible to change the capillary felts for the headstock bearings without tearing the headstock apart? has anyone done this?


Mark


Foot Master Casters

jy_tthr@...
 

I have four Foot Master, GDN R60 casters. They are ratted at 550lb each and include the build in ratchet. They were on a lathe. Mounted and never moved until they were removed. They are like new. Will include the bolts, nuts and washers. All for $150.00 plus shipping. If interested email me at; jy_tthr@....

Thank you, Jay


Re: Craig's List - 16" Southbend

RJ White
 

Thanks for posting that info.
 
RJ  White
619-405-1699


On Monday, October 20, 2014 5:30 AM, "'ARKnack' arknack@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:



Re: Lever action collet closer

oscar kern <kernbigo@...>
 

all different sizes


On Sunday, October 19, 2014 7:43 PM, "James Rice james.rice@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
But do they have big balls, the biggest balls of all?

Sorry, I'm out in the shop cleaning and organizing tools and hardware and that song by AC-DC just played on the radio.  I couldn't resist.

James

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:25 PM, oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
motion industry has balls 






Craig's List - 16" Southbend

ww_big_al
 


Re: Lever action collet closer

James Rice
 

But do they have big balls, the biggest balls of all?

Sorry, I'm out in the shop cleaning and organizing tools and hardware and that song by AC-DC just played on the radio.  I couldn't resist.

James


On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:25 PM, oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

motion industry has balls 




Re: Lever action collet closer

oscar kern <kernbigo@...>
 

motion industry has balls 


On Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:55 PM, "'guycad@...' guycad@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
For your info, I managed to manufacture the missing components (with the exception of the 5/16" balls)
 
Later this fall, the  sleeve I manufactured will be quenched.
 
Price was right.... $20 Cdn .   You have to take into account about 6 hours manufacturing time for the missing components
 
Now I have to pay a visit to GBS in order to get the balls
 
 
Guy Cadrin
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Lever action collet closer

carbure2003
 


Re: Digest Number 7570[1 Attachment]

Rick Lathrop <rickv100@...>
 

Where is the lathe located?

On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:24 PM, "Glen Reeser Gorvil@aol.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



I have a working Southbend lathe for sale. Price negotiable. Also, other metalworking equipment; set up an appointment if interested.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 17, 2014, at 6:17 AM, SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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14 Messages Digest #7570
1.1 Re: My 25 dollar tool grinder by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
1.2 Re: My 25 dollar tool grinder by "Rod Lindauer" kysculptor
2a Re: collet rack [1 Attachment] by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
2b Re: collet rack by "Jim B." eeengineer1
2c Re: collet rack [1 Attachment] by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
2d Re: collet rack by "Jim B." eeengineer1
2e Re: collet rack by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
2f Re: collet rack by "Jim B." eeengineer1
3a Re: Drill bit sharpener by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
3b Re: Drill bit sharpener by markfrazier16137
3c Re: Drill bit sharpener by "Lance Eggleston" crashbone256
3d Re: Drill bit sharpener by "don" donmc@xtra.co.nz
4a I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch by "Terry Williamson" theideashoppe
4b Re: I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch by "Jim B." eeengineer1
Messages
1.1 Re: My 25 dollar tool grinder
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:08 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
Yea, but that wasn't a joke. I knew she didn't have much money so I wanted her to get something cheap and I need some new files.

Mark

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Sent: ‎6/‎16/‎2014 12:38 AM
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] My 25 dollar tool grinder

Mark,

LOL I used to teach shop and bastard file jokes were common,

Carbine Williams invented the workings for the M1 carbine. Supposedly
did this while in jail...... built a prototype using just a file.
Google up his name, interesting story. There was also a movie made of his life.

Ed S

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1.2 Re: My 25 dollar tool grinder
Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:50 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Rod Lindauer" kysculptor
Here's a nice picture of Carbine William's shop.
http://www.ncdcr.gov/Portals/7/Collateral/database/f06.david.carbine.williams.pdf
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:08 AM, "'Mark E. Frazier' markfrazier16137@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yea, but that wasn't a joke. I knew she didn't have much money so I wanted her to get something cheap and I need some new files.

Mark
From: Ed S eschwerkolt@roadrunner.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
Sent: ‎6/‎16/‎2014 12:38 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] My 25 dollar tool grinder


Mark,

LOL I used to teach shop and bastard file jokes were common,

Carbine Williams invented the workings for the M1 carbine. Supposedly
did this while in jail...... built a prototype using just a file.
Google up his name, interesting story. There was also a movie made of his life.

Ed S


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2a Re: collet rack [1 Attachment]
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:10 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
Did you make it? I can't find my collets on the web.
Mark

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Sent: ‎6/‎16/‎2014 12:43 AM
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack [1 Attachment]

[Attachment(s) from Jim B. included below]

Attached is a MT-2 holder. I use this on my 9".
I also have one with a B&S #9 taper I use on my mill.
Jim B

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2b Re: collet rack
Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:30 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim B." eeengineer1
No both are commercial, I think.

Years ago, just after I got the Mill, I found the B&S one on eBay. It had a few collets and was not expensive.
I bought it more because it had an B&S #9 end than because I knew what to do with it.

There are several vendors on eBay that specialize on Y-Type collets. They come in fractional, number and
letter size.

I bought a few at about $6 ea. I found an Ad on {M for a trove of several hundred collets and I purchased them
all for about $200. They came with the MT-2 holder.

There were a lot of duplicates. I sorted out most of a set of fractional and Letter collets and sold the
extras for about $150.

I keep the MT-2 loaded with a center drill. I use the B&S one on the Mill all the time because its very short.

Here is a pix of the mill with a holder drilling on a steady rest for the 9" Workshop

Jim B.

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From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:10 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

Did you make it? I can't find my collets on the web.
Mark

Attachment(s) from Jim B.
1 of 1 Photo(s)
Drilling mounding hole pic13_2_27_sfw.jpg
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2c Re: collet rack [1 Attachment]
Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:56 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
I don't think it will be at all difficult to make a holder for these collets I have. The only thing that bothers me is the locating keyway is on the rear inside. I'm still not sure how that works.

Mark

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From: "'Jim B. ' btdtrf@verizon.net [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: ‎6/‎16/‎2014 10:30 AM
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack [1 Attachment]

[Attachment(s) from Jim B. included below]

No both are commercial, I think.
Years ago, just after I got the Mill, I found the B&S one on eBay. It had a few collets and was not expensive. I bought it more because it had an B&S #9 end than because I knew what to do with it.
There are several vendors on eBay that specialize on Y-Type collets. They come in fractional, number and letter size.
I bought a few at about $6 ea. I found an Ad on {M for a trove of several hundred collets and I purchased them all for about $200. They came with the MT-2 holder.
There were a lot of duplicates. I sorted out most of a set of fractional and Letter collets and sold the extras for about $150.

I keep the MT-2 loaded with a center drill. I use the B&S one on the Mill all the time because its very short.
Here is a pix of the mill with a holder drilling on a steady rest for the 9” Workshop

Jim B.

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:10 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack


Did you make it? I can't find my collets on the web.
Mark
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2d Re: collet rack
Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:07 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim B." eeengineer1
On 3C and 5C its done with a press fit pin that just locates the keyway.

Jim B.

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From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 11:56 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

I don't think it will be at all difficult to make a holder for these collets I have. The only thing that
bothers me is the locating keyway is on the rear inside. I'm still not sure how that works.

Mark

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2e Re: collet rack
Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
Yes, but the w&s collets have a little keyway in the rear on the inside.

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From: "'Jim B. ' btdtrf@verizon.net [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: ‎6/‎16/‎2014 12:07 PM
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

On 3C and 5C its done with a press fit pin that just locates the keyway.

Jim B.

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 11:56 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack


I don't think it will be at all difficult to make a holder for these collets I have. The only thing that bothers me is the locating keyway is on the rear inside. I'm still not sure how that works.

Mark

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2f Re: collet rack
Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim B." eeengineer1
It looks like your collets should bottom on a step in the holder.

That step could have a locating pin.

Just to stop the collet from turning.

Jim B.

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From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 3:23 PM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

Yes, but the w&s collets have a little keyway in the rear on the inside.

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From: 'Jim B. ' btdtrf@verizon.net <mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
Sent: ý6/ý16/ý2014 12:07 PM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

On 3C and 5C its done with a press fit pin that just locates the keyway.

Jim B.

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From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 11:56 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

I don't think it will be at all difficult to make a holder for these collets I have. The only thing that
bothers me is the locating keyway is on the rear inside. I'm still not sure how that works.

Mark

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3a Re: Drill bit sharpener
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:26 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
A friend of mine has the old small 300 or 350 Drill Dr. And it is junk. My brother in law had the 750 and it worked pretty good. I been doing a lot of research on drill bit sharpening and the 4 facet grinder by gadgetbuilder looks good, but I can't find the plans. ( they are in a magazine a couple months ago). I saw the Harold hall setup. It uses his table (which I don't really want to build, but maybe his drill jig,( or an adaptation of it) can work on my grinding table.
All in all, I like the facet system idea of gadetbuilder.

Mark

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Sent: ‎6/‎16/‎2014 4:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Drill bit sharpener

On 6/16/2014 1:44 AM, Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet.com
[SOUTHBENDLATHE] wrote:


Do these things do tradtional curved sharpening or the superior 4
flats? Anything available for the latter?
(For those who don't know what I'm talking about with "4 flats", I'll
dig one out, take a photo and post it, but the short summary is that you
first grind a major flat in place of the traditional curve and then
narrow the centre with the corner (must be sharp) of the wheel. The
more expensive varieties (for cutting aerospace materials) come ground
like this from new these days. Big advantage is that they have no blunt
bit in the middle and pilot holes are often not required.)
Drill Dr. does a relieved curved grind but it's somewhat different from
a factory grind. It also has the ability to do a split point cut, also a
bit different from how bit manufacturers do it.

The top model of the current Drill Dr. line has the ability to so
several point angles. One I have can only do one angle and the old one I
have can only do two different angles.

What all of them can easily do is put a point on a broken bit. It's
easier to use a bench grinder to flatten the broken end first, which
also saves wear on the diamond wheel.

The newer models with the horizontal motor are easier to use than the
original style with the vertical motor.

The Drill Dr. line is made by Darex, same company that makes hideously
expensive industrial bit sharpeners like the XT3000 Auto. One can nearly
just throw the bits at it and have them sharpened. ;-) For $5K I'd like
a robot with a vision system to load the bits for me...

Even at that price they have a 3-4 week lead time due to high demand.

What would be great is a device similar to the Drill Dr. which can do
the faceted grind for a stronger cutting edge.

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3b Re: Drill bit sharpener
Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by: markfrazier16137
The only one I have found to grind the flat facets is by gadgetbuilder. This is the type I want to build, but cant find any plans for a facet grinder. (guess I gonna have to try to come up with something using pictures and my brain.)

Mark
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3c Re: Drill bit sharpener
Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Lance Eggleston" crashbone256
Mark,

Contact gadgetbuilder via his web page.
He is active on the Yahoo 7x12minilathe group.

lance
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On Jun 16, 2014, at 10:11 PM, markfrazier16137@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The only one I have found to grind the flat facets is by gadgetbuilder. This is the type I want to build, but cant find any plans for a facet grinder. (guess I gonna have to try to come up with something using pictures and my brain.)


Mark
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3d Re: Drill bit sharpener
Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:37 am (PDT) . Posted by: "don" donmc@xtra.co.nz
Hi group,

Once again nothing to do about SB lathes.

I, too have been interested about the different drill geometries
available. I can grind a usable drill by hand but find it pretty hit and
miss to get really good results.
At work we have a (german?) drill sharpener that does split point drills
to perfection and the drills sharpened by this machine work extremely
well, even on stuff like duplex stainless steel which is really nasty
stuff to machine without correct tools!
I took my best (metric) drill set to work and after hours resharpened
the whole set on this machine, and can testify that they cut superbly
without any tendency to wander of centre. They work very well using the
tailstock in the lathe, and equally well in the drill press.

So, if there is a drill guru out there could they provide some info on
the relative merits of the different ways of putting cutting edges on
drills? I've seen all sorts of geometries ranging from the continuous
back off ( like most hand sharpened) to multi faceted, coolant through
the centre high (astronomical!) priced cnc drills.

The higher the price the more extreme the end geometries seem to get.

Hopefully some one out there can satisfy my (our?) curiosity about these
things.

Cheers,
Don.

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4a I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch
Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:34 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Terry Williamson" theideashoppe
I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch, it came with my Southbend Lathe.
I am using it for other purposes.
Any one have an extra one to sell? Do you have any idea why it came with my Southbend 9"x36 1940's lathe?

Terry
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4b Re: I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch
Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:06 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim B." eeengineer1
They are available from Boston Gear, but BG only sells through distributers. If you go to the website you can
find a distributor.

The 105 tooth gear is called a "Turning" gear. It is used for slow feed on a change gear lathe. It is used in
conjunction with a compound gear to reduce the feed speed.

You say 20 DP? That should mean that you have a Catalog #405. Catalog #'s 415 and later would use an 18 DP
gear.

Jim B.

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Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch

I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch, it came with my Southbend Lathe.

I am using it for other purposes.

Any one have an extra one to sell? Do you have any idea why it came with my Southbend 9"x36 1940's lathe?

Terry

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Re: Digest Number 7570[1 Attachment]

gorvil
 

I have a working Southbend lathe for sale. Price negotiable. Also, other metalworking equipment; set up an appointment if interested.

On Jun 17, 2014, at 6:17 AM, SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com wrote:

All about South Bend Lathes: All Models Group
14 Messages Digest #7570
1.1 Re: My 25 dollar tool grinder by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
1.2 Re: My 25 dollar tool grinder by "Rod Lindauer" kysculptor
2a Re: collet rack [1 Attachment] by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
2b Re: collet rack by "Jim B." eeengineer1
2c Re: collet rack [1 Attachment] by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
2d Re: collet rack by "Jim B." eeengineer1
2e Re: collet rack by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
2f Re: collet rack by "Jim B." eeengineer1
3a Re: Drill bit sharpener by "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
3b Re: Drill bit sharpener by markfrazier16137
3c Re: Drill bit sharpener by "Lance Eggleston" crashbone256
3d Re: Drill bit sharpener by "don" donmc@xtra.co.nz
4a I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch by "Terry Williamson" theideashoppe
4b Re: I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch by "Jim B." eeengineer1
Messages
1.1 Re: My 25 dollar tool grinder
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:08 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
Yea, but that wasn't a joke. I knew she didn't have much money so I wanted her to get something cheap and I need some new files.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ed S eschwerkolt@roadrunner.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: ‎6/‎16/‎2014 12:38 AM
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] My 25 dollar tool grinder

Mark,

LOL I used to teach shop and bastard file jokes were common,

Carbine Williams invented the workings for the M1 carbine. Supposedly
did this while in jail...... built a prototype using just a file.
Google up his name, interesting story. There was also a movie made of his life.

Ed S

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1.2 Re: My 25 dollar tool grinder
Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:50 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Rod Lindauer" kysculptor
Here's a nice picture of Carbine William's shop.
http://www.ncdcr.gov/Portals/7/Collateral/database/f06.david.carbine.williams.pdf
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:08 AM, "'Mark E. Frazier' markfrazier16137@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yea, but that wasn't a joke. I knew she didn't have much money so I wanted her to get something cheap and I need some new files.

Mark
From: Ed S eschwerkolt@roadrunner.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
Sent: ‎6/‎16/‎2014 12:38 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] My 25 dollar tool grinder


Mark,

LOL I used to teach shop and bastard file jokes were common,

Carbine Williams invented the workings for the M1 carbine. Supposedly
did this while in jail...... built a prototype using just a file.
Google up his name, interesting story. There was also a movie made of his life.

Ed S


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2a Re: collet rack [1 Attachment]
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:10 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
Did you make it? I can't find my collets on the web.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: "'Jim B.' btdtrf@verizon.net [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: ‎6/‎16/‎2014 12:43 AM
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack [1 Attachment]

[Attachment(s) from Jim B. included below]

Attached is a MT-2 holder. I use this on my 9".
I also have one with a B&S #9 taper I use on my mill.
Jim B

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2b Re: collet rack
Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:30 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim B." eeengineer1
No both are commercial, I think.

Years ago, just after I got the Mill, I found the B&S one on eBay. It had a few collets and was not expensive.
I bought it more because it had an B&S #9 end than because I knew what to do with it.

There are several vendors on eBay that specialize on Y-Type collets. They come in fractional, number and
letter size.

I bought a few at about $6 ea. I found an Ad on {M for a trove of several hundred collets and I purchased them
all for about $200. They came with the MT-2 holder.

There were a lot of duplicates. I sorted out most of a set of fractional and Letter collets and sold the
extras for about $150.

I keep the MT-2 loaded with a center drill. I use the B&S one on the Mill all the time because its very short.

Here is a pix of the mill with a holder drilling on a steady rest for the 9" Workshop

Jim B.

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Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

Did you make it? I can't find my collets on the web.
Mark

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2c Re: collet rack [1 Attachment]
Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:56 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
I don't think it will be at all difficult to make a holder for these collets I have. The only thing that bothers me is the locating keyway is on the rear inside. I'm still not sure how that works.

Mark

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[Attachment(s) from Jim B. included below]

No both are commercial, I think.
Years ago, just after I got the Mill, I found the B&S one on eBay. It had a few collets and was not expensive. I bought it more because it had an B&S #9 end than because I knew what to do with it.
There are several vendors on eBay that specialize on Y-Type collets. They come in fractional, number and letter size.
I bought a few at about $6 ea. I found an Ad on {M for a trove of several hundred collets and I purchased them all for about $200. They came with the MT-2 holder.
There were a lot of duplicates. I sorted out most of a set of fractional and Letter collets and sold the extras for about $150.

I keep the MT-2 loaded with a center drill. I use the B&S one on the Mill all the time because its very short.
Here is a pix of the mill with a holder drilling on a steady rest for the 9” Workshop

Jim B.

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Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack


Did you make it? I can't find my collets on the web.
Mark
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2d Re: collet rack
Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:07 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim B." eeengineer1
On 3C and 5C its done with a press fit pin that just locates the keyway.

Jim B.

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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 11:56 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

I don't think it will be at all difficult to make a holder for these collets I have. The only thing that
bothers me is the locating keyway is on the rear inside. I'm still not sure how that works.

Mark

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2e Re: collet rack
Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
Yes, but the w&s collets have a little keyway in the rear on the inside.

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Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

On 3C and 5C its done with a press fit pin that just locates the keyway.

Jim B.

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Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack


I don't think it will be at all difficult to make a holder for these collets I have. The only thing that bothers me is the locating keyway is on the rear inside. I'm still not sure how that works.

Mark

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2f Re: collet rack
Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim B." eeengineer1
It looks like your collets should bottom on a step in the holder.

That step could have a locating pin.

Just to stop the collet from turning.

Jim B.

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Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

Yes, but the w&s collets have a little keyway in the rear on the inside.

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Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

On 3C and 5C its done with a press fit pin that just locates the keyway.

Jim B.

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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 11:56 AM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] collet rack

I don't think it will be at all difficult to make a holder for these collets I have. The only thing that
bothers me is the locating keyway is on the rear inside. I'm still not sure how that works.

Mark

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3a Re: Drill bit sharpener
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:26 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Mark E. Frazier" markfrazier16137
A friend of mine has the old small 300 or 350 Drill Dr. And it is junk. My brother in law had the 750 and it worked pretty good. I been doing a lot of research on drill bit sharpening and the 4 facet grinder by gadgetbuilder looks good, but I can't find the plans. ( they are in a magazine a couple months ago). I saw the Harold hall setup. It uses his table (which I don't really want to build, but maybe his drill jig,( or an adaptation of it) can work on my grinding table.
All in all, I like the facet system idea of gadetbuilder.

Mark

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On 6/16/2014 1:44 AM, Edward Draper eddie.draper@btinternet.com
[SOUTHBENDLATHE] wrote:


Do these things do tradtional curved sharpening or the superior 4
flats? Anything available for the latter?
(For those who don't know what I'm talking about with "4 flats", I'll
dig one out, take a photo and post it, but the short summary is that you
first grind a major flat in place of the traditional curve and then
narrow the centre with the corner (must be sharp) of the wheel. The
more expensive varieties (for cutting aerospace materials) come ground
like this from new these days. Big advantage is that they have no blunt
bit in the middle and pilot holes are often not required.)
Drill Dr. does a relieved curved grind but it's somewhat different from
a factory grind. It also has the ability to do a split point cut, also a
bit different from how bit manufacturers do it.

The top model of the current Drill Dr. line has the ability to so
several point angles. One I have can only do one angle and the old one I
have can only do two different angles.

What all of them can easily do is put a point on a broken bit. It's
easier to use a bench grinder to flatten the broken end first, which
also saves wear on the diamond wheel.

The newer models with the horizontal motor are easier to use than the
original style with the vertical motor.

The Drill Dr. line is made by Darex, same company that makes hideously
expensive industrial bit sharpeners like the XT3000 Auto. One can nearly
just throw the bits at it and have them sharpened. ;-) For $5K I'd like
a robot with a vision system to load the bits for me...

Even at that price they have a 3-4 week lead time due to high demand.

What would be great is a device similar to the Drill Dr. which can do
the faceted grind for a stronger cutting edge.

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3b Re: Drill bit sharpener
Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by: markfrazier16137
The only one I have found to grind the flat facets is by gadgetbuilder. This is the type I want to build, but cant find any plans for a facet grinder. (guess I gonna have to try to come up with something using pictures and my brain.)

Mark
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3c Re: Drill bit sharpener
Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Lance Eggleston" crashbone256
Mark,

Contact gadgetbuilder via his web page.
He is active on the Yahoo 7x12minilathe group.

lance
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On Jun 16, 2014, at 10:11 PM, markfrazier16137@yahoo.com [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The only one I have found to grind the flat facets is by gadgetbuilder. This is the type I want to build, but cant find any plans for a facet grinder. (guess I gonna have to try to come up with something using pictures and my brain.)


Mark
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3d Re: Drill bit sharpener
Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:37 am (PDT) . Posted by: "don" donmc@xtra.co.nz
Hi group,

Once again nothing to do about SB lathes.

I, too have been interested about the different drill geometries
available. I can grind a usable drill by hand but find it pretty hit and
miss to get really good results.
At work we have a (german?) drill sharpener that does split point drills
to perfection and the drills sharpened by this machine work extremely
well, even on stuff like duplex stainless steel which is really nasty
stuff to machine without correct tools!
I took my best (metric) drill set to work and after hours resharpened
the whole set on this machine, and can testify that they cut superbly
without any tendency to wander of centre. They work very well using the
tailstock in the lathe, and equally well in the drill press.

So, if there is a drill guru out there could they provide some info on
the relative merits of the different ways of putting cutting edges on
drills? I've seen all sorts of geometries ranging from the continuous
back off ( like most hand sharpened) to multi faceted, coolant through
the centre high (astronomical!) priced cnc drills.

The higher the price the more extreme the end geometries seem to get.

Hopefully some one out there can satisfy my (our?) curiosity about these
things.

Cheers,
Don.

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4a I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch
Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:34 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Terry Williamson" theideashoppe
I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch, it came with my Southbend Lathe.
I am using it for other purposes.
Any one have an extra one to sell? Do you have any idea why it came with my Southbend 9"x36 1940's lathe?

Terry
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4b Re: I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch
Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:06 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim B." eeengineer1
They are available from Boston Gear, but BG only sells through distributers. If you go to the website you can
find a distributor.

The 105 tooth gear is called a "Turning" gear. It is used for slow feed on a change gear lathe. It is used in
conjunction with a compound gear to reduce the feed speed.

You say 20 DP? That should mean that you have a Catalog #405. Catalog #'s 415 and later would use an 18 DP
gear.

Jim B.

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I need a Boston Gear 105 teeth 20 pitch, it came with my Southbend Lathe.

I am using it for other purposes.

Any one have an extra one to sell? Do you have any idea why it came with my Southbend 9"x36 1940's lathe?

Terry

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Re: New Member - 9" Model C

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

Yes McMasters does have the oilers.

The felts are available on eBay as par of a repair/maintenance kit.

 

AFAIK there is no direct replacement for the ball thrust bearing.

Try “Ted” latheman2@.... He may have a NOS one.

If all else fails then try Grizzly. They purchased the remains of South Bend and are supposed to be maintaining some parts stock.

 

Your lathe was shipped around 3/23/1939 according to our spread sheet.

I have seen the same roller thrust bearings you are going to us as the take up bearings used with a spacer but I would be concerned about the load on them.

 

Jim B.


From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:03 PM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] New Member - 9" Model C

 

 

Hi all,

 

I recently picked up a SB lathe from a family member. Catalog number 915-A & S/N 88830. From what I can find this is a 1939 9" model C with pedestal mount? Digging into it and reading up I'm realizing what I am missing. For the headstock, I am missing the spindle thrust bearing, capillary oilers, and cup oilers.



Is there non-factory replacement thrust bearings and capillary oilers available anywhere? Also, what size threads are the cup oilers? I was planning on getting the needle bearing take-up upgrade from McMaster so I'd like to get anything else I could from there. Any info is appreciated.



Thanks,

JM


Re: New Member - 9" Model C

oscar kern <kernbigo@...>
 

they have to oilers and the thrust bearings


On Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:10 PM, "wcmx922@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
Hi all,

I recently picked up a SB lathe from a family member. Catalog number 915-A & S/N 88830. From what I can find this is a 1939 9" model C with pedestal mount? Digging into it and reading up I'm realizing what I am missing. For the headstock, I am missing the spindle thrust bearing, capillary oilers, and cup oilers.

Is there non-factory replacement thrust bearings and capillary oilers available anywhere? Also, what size threads are the cup oilers? I was planning on getting the needle bearing take-up upgrade from McMaster so I'd like to get anything else I could from there. Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,
JM



New Member - 9" Model C

jordan martin
 

Hi all,


I recently picked up a SB lathe from a family member. Catalog number 915-A & S/N 88830. From what I can find this is a 1939 9" model C with pedestal mount? Digging into it and reading up I'm realizing what I am missing. For the headstock, I am missing the spindle thrust bearing, capillary oilers, and cup oilers.


Is there non-factory replacement thrust bearings and capillary oilers available anywhere? Also, what size threads are the cup oilers? I was planning on getting the needle bearing take-up upgrade from McMaster so I'd like to get anything else I could from there. Any info is appreciated.


Thanks,

JM


Re: junior apron

sblatheman
 

Jimmy,
 I have sent several emails.
Please check your spam folder.
Ted

On Oct 10, 2014, at 5:10 PM, "incawannabe@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

latheman ted i replied to your post by clicking "reply" dont know if it goes to you or the sbl group so i hope it gets to you somehow  JIMMy W


Re: Lever action collet closer

sblatheman
 

Oops. My mistake. Wrong Guy
Sorry,
Ted

On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Latheman latheman2@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

Guy,
 Check your spam folder !!!

Ted

On Oct 13, 2014, at 4:48 PM, "guycad@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

Ted,

 

I hve been trying to send you an email directly, but since emails were turned off for my mailbox on this group, I have not been able to recover it from your post. 

 

I turned back on email for this group.

 

Can you send back an email?

 

I have dismantled both units to the extent I cannot go any further.

 

I start to figure out how  the 10K unit was put together.  There seems to be a silver solder joint  on the sleeve.

 

According to the part manual I got, the Part No I would be missing is AS979N3  (drawing says it was sold as an assembly)

 

The unit I got is quite likely Old style  .  Unit  code is HL104      The draw bar has the ratchet marks   (worn out)

Thanls

 

Guy Cadrin

 

 


 


Re: Lever action collet closer

sblatheman
 

Guy,
 Check your spam folder !!!

Ted

On Oct 13, 2014, at 4:48 PM, "guycad@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

Ted,

 

I hve been trying to send you an email directly, but since emails were turned off for my mailbox on this group, I have not been able to recover it from your post. 

 

I turned back on email for this group.

 

Can you send back an email?

 

I have dismantled both units to the extent I cannot go any further.

 

I start to figure out how  the 10K unit was put together.  There seems to be a silver solder joint  on the sleeve.

 

According to the part manual I got, the Part No I would be missing is AS979N3  (drawing says it was sold as an assembly)

 

The unit I got is quite likely Old style  .  Unit  code is HL104      The draw bar has the ratchet marks   (worn out)

Thanls

 

Guy Cadrin

 

 


 


Re: Identifying Lathe

druid_noibn
 

Hi All,

In case one wishes to add a "Junior" to the list - I have a 422-Y s/n 46503 A 

I can't quite tell if the casting date is a '28 or '29.  Will take a closer look during the cleaning process.

Kind regards,
DBN


On Monday, October 13, 2014 5:05 PM, "'Jim B. ' btdtrf@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
T is the code for a 13” lathe.
K signifies Quick Change Gearbox, Friction Feed Apron, UMD
R signifies “Regular” spindle hole.
8 is the revision number.
510 was shipped between mid December 1947 and mid January1948
 
(Caution, there are only 2 data points in 1947/1948 time frame)
 
Jim B.

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Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 4:13 PM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Identifying Lathe
 
 
Hello, noticing that everyone is registering their serial numbers, here's mine from the lathe i bought last year -- 510TKR8-- can you guys tell me anything about it? looking at the southbend site I,m assuming it is a sb13 Quick Change Gear (QCG), Friction Feed Apron,
Underneath Motor Drive (UMD Regular Spindle Hole,Standard Swing if Im reading it correctly?
Thanks
Ryan


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