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Re: New Member

steam1919
 

welcome bill im a hoarder too cant stand to see an orphaned machine tool


On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Rick Lathrop rickv100@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

Welcome Bill!

On Jun 1, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "autocar1980@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


HI, My name is Bill and I'm a lathe hoarder. I find an unwanted lathe I must bring it home with me.


Re: New Member

Rick Lathrop <rickv100@...>
 

Welcome Bill!

On Jun 1, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "autocar1980@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


HI, My name is Bill and I'm a lathe hoarder. I find an unwanted lathe I must bring it home with me.

Re: New Member

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

Welcome Bill.

 

Jim B.


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HI, My name is Bill and I'm a lathe hoarder. I find an unwanted lathe I must bring it home with me.

Re: Treadmill Motor Conversion

Curt Wuollet <wideopen1@...>
 

I bought my motor new from surplus center back when they were common and cheap for a wind generator project. Now you have to scrounge one because they sell on ebay for insane prices for used motors. The people selling them must hunt around here because I haven't seen a scroungeable treadmill.  The controller I found is a Minarik 301U which was too expensive too. To do this now would cost more than a VFD and 3 phase motor setup if you couldn't at least get the motor free. And a good controller is key. All the setups where people complain about lack of power use the treadmill controller sometimes modified. Apparently some work, but I think most are current limited for liability reasons. So you hear the motor is a piece of crap. They are what they are, but they do put out more than enough most shop tools.

Regards

cww

On 06/01/2014 08:00 AM, kaleb sells kalebasells@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] wrote:
 

As far as brush issues go it all depends on the treadmill that is cannibalized. Some use brushed DC motors but many use brushless permanent magnet DC motors, which are wired more similar to a 3-phase AC motor. My wifes treadmill was this way, i know because i had to work on it so often, it had a 3.5hp 90 volt brushless DC motor.

Kaleb Sells
Oklahoma


New Member

Matt Williams
 


HI, My name is Bill and I'm a lathe hoarder. I find an unwanted lathe I must bring it home with me.

Re: Treadmill Motor Conversion

kaleb sells
 

As far as brush issues go it all depends on the treadmill that is cannibalized. Some use brushed DC motors but many use brushless permanent magnet DC motors, which are wired more similar to a 3-phase AC motor. My wifes treadmill was this way, i know because i had to work on it so often, it had a 3.5hp 90 volt brushless DC motor.

Kaleb Sells
Oklahoma

I bought a 14" SB lathe at auction. I made an album but I haven't figured out how to link.

Rod Lindauer
 

It's in great shape. I think the cabinet is also from SB. Ideas? It came with some type of turret attachment and two crank actuated things, maybe for turning balls and sockets? It also had the collet bar and full collet set, still in their cardboard and Bakelite holders. I also got the taper attachment which was mixed in with some scrap metal and sold seperate. The guy who bought the metal found it buried and brought it to my attention, I bought it back for scrap price, lucky...I think I might have been the only guy there not buying scrap metal. I got a ton of stuff, brand new heat treat oven and roll of foil for $100, about 100 end mills some carbide most new for $20, a Kurt vise and another generic one for $40, Kennedy box full of round 1/2" HSS stock, three 10hp hydraulic units and a 35 ton press with loading cart and 12 die assemblies for $300, a 25 piece hole punch and die set for $5! I felt like I was drunk when I got home and started unloading. I've been self employed as a sculptor/ furniture maker for the last 15 years, then the recession and a bad shop accident put me in a bad way financially. I got some vocational rehabilitation help from the VA and started retraining last year as a cnc machinist. I want to go back to being self-employed, so I'm trying to put a modest shop together. I was a little discouraged until I went to a job interview last week with a major manufacturer and the shop I'd be working in was crappier than mine. I still will need to work somewhere for a while to learn the ropes but at least it seems possible now. The reason I went to the auction was to buy a surface grinder, it was an off brand and for some reason it brought more money than anything else. Way more than I was willing to pay.

Re: Cleaning up black iron pipe

dw1307
 

Yes & No... It is true that a lot of commercial threaders do use opening die heads, a lot don't. I used to thread a lot of pipe, and a lot of big stuff like 4" and the Ridgid dies we used did not open, they simply were turned in reverse to remove from the thread. Also the very common Ridgid ratchet style threaders do not open. You can get good quality threads from either style.

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Re: Cleaning up black iron pipe

soupy1951ca
 

As far as threading goes the peeling off is the reason proper pipe threading dies are four piece and are set into an adjustable die holder that locks closed and is opened when the thread is complete. That prevents the tearing issue. Pipe NEVER was the best quality material but the Chinese have taken "quality" to a new low.
 
Mike from Canada​


On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Edward Draper eddie.draper@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

Can't speak for USA rebar and pipe but for the UK versions:  The pipe can be difficult to thread, the threads peeling off when you reverse the die, even with Trefolex or Silkut.  Rebar is grade T, which means it is quite handy for punches, single use special chisels for mild steel, Tommy bars for vices etc.  The worst feature is trying to grip the surface anywhere near central in a chuck, or anything else for that matter.
 
Eddie

From: "Soupy51 soupy51@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
To: "southbendlathe@..." <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2014 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Cleaning up black iron pipe
 
The Chinese pipe I used for my treadmill conversion controller mount turned down just fine. There were some hard spots but basically it turned down very nicely.
 
Mike from Canada​
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Nelson Collar nel2lar@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
Rick
The best I can say is use pipe for what pipe is made to do. Pipe metal is not good for anything.  Another thing not to try is rebar, I believe they are made from similar metals--good for nothing but what they were designed to do.
Nelson Collar




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Learn from the mistakes of others, you might not live long enough to make them all yourself!!!

Re: Cleaning up black iron pipe

eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

Can't speak for USA rebar and pipe but for the UK versions:  The pipe can be difficult to thread, the threads peeling off when you reverse the die, even with Trefolex or Silkut.  Rebar is grade T, which means it is quite handy for punches, single use special chisels for mild steel, Tommy bars for vices etc.  The worst feature is trying to grip the surface anywhere near central in a chuck, or anything else for that matter.
 
Eddie

From: "Soupy51 soupy51@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: "southbendlathe@..."
Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2014 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Cleaning up black iron pipe
 
The Chinese pipe I used for my treadmill conversion controller mount turned down just fine. There were some hard spots but basically it turned down very nicely.
 
Mike from Canada​
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Nelson Collar nel2lar@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
Rick
The best I can say is use pipe for what pipe is made to do. Pipe metal is not good for anything.  Another thing not to try is rebar, I believe they are made from similar metals--good for nothing but what they were designed to do.
Nelson Collar

Re: Treadmill Motor Conversion

Curt Wuollet <wideopen1@...>
 

I did that on a Craftsman that came without the jackshaft. It works slick and lots more torque than that lathe should see so I dialed down the current limit. The only downside is that the controller I found is an SCR type so the thing buzzes. I may find a PWM type if I keep the lathe. I can't see any brush tilting or other direction preference, but I did set it up so forward would be the direction that would tighten the original fan/flywheel threads. I can thread at very low speeds with it. For my SB, I think I'd do a VFD and 3 phase motor just because it would be mechanically simpler, But I've run the treadmill motor all day without any issues.

Regards

cww

On 05/31/2014 06:01 PM, Nelson Collar nel2lar@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] wrote:
 
Mike
Very nice, it looks too small motor on a lathe. But is more than needed, nice.
Nelson Collar


On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:12 PM, "soupy51@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
I put my 2HP treadmill motor on today. Wow what a difference. I love the total control of the RPM. I'll use my digital Tachometer to mark the RPMs that correspond to the MPH on the controller. I used a 400J8 belt I had but a 360J8 or 340J8 would have been better. I took some hefty cuts and it didn't skip a beat. I wish I had done this sooner.
 
Mike from Canada 



Re: Treadmill Motor Conversion

soupy1951ca
 

Sorry Jim. I was bouncing back and forth between packing for a trip and trying to be helpful. I'll try harder in the future.
 
Mike from Canada​


On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 8:52 PM, 'Jim B.' btdtrf@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

I hate to sound like a broken record,         


   

Re: finally back home

James Instone
 

Hi Ed S -- Glad you're feeling better.

joutrock


On Saturday, May 31, 2014 7:49 PM, "Mark Hofer markahofer@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
Hi Ed,
Gratifying to hear you make progress.  Our prayers remain with you for a continued and speedy recovery,
M

On May 31, 2014, at 6:04 PM, "eschwerkolt@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 
Hello everyone,

After 39 days in a hospital bed I am finally back home but still on bed rest with some therapy twice a day. I can walk a bit with a walker but I need a lot more time to rebuild my strength.

Typing is slow; my left hand is still a bit shaky. Doctors say I had a very mild stroke and should recover 100%. Not sure if you know the details but I went to Cleveland clinic to repair some heart by-passes. It turned into a new triple bypass. A few days later I had the stroke, lucky I was in a 5 star hospital.

I have been reading all your comments and I appreciate your concern. Some even mentioned some prayers and I sure did need them. Keep them coming.

I probably won�t be responding very much for awhile, until I feel stronger.

Ed S



Re: Treadmill Motor Conversion

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

I hate to sound like a broken record, but please, all, try to trim your posts, quoting only enough of the previous post in order to maintain continuity.
Jim B

Sent from my RAZR.

Re: Treadmill Motor Conversion [1 Attachment]

soupy1951ca
 

What did you use for a controller? Mine is kind of bulky but it does work. More info on yours would appreciated.
 
Mike from Canada​


On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 8:39 PM, oscar kern kernbigo@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from oscar kern included below]

here is my setup with a thread mill motor


On Saturday, May 31, 2014 7:20 PM, "Soupy51 soupy51@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 
It puts out 1.75 HP continuous and believe me it takes as heavy a cut as I need to take!!
 
Mike from Canada ​


On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Nelson Collar nel2lar@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
Mike
Very nice, it looks too small motor on a lathe. But is more than needed, nice.
Nelson Collar


On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:12 PM, "soupy51@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 
I put my 2HP treadmill motor on today. Wow what a difference. I love the total control of the RPM. I'll use my digital Tachometer to mark the RPMs that correspond to the MPH on the controller. I used a 400J8 belt I had but a 360J8 or 340J8 would have been better. I took some hefty cuts and it didn't skip a beat. I wish I had done this sooner.
 
Mike from Canada 





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Learn from the mistakes of others, you might not live long enough to make them all yourself!!!





--

“People that know they are important think about others, people that think they are important, think about themselves.” – Hans F. Hansen

 

Learn from the mistakes of others, you might not live long enough to make them all yourself!!!

Re: Treadmill Motor Conversion

oscar kern
 

here is my setup with a thread mill motor


On Saturday, May 31, 2014 7:20 PM, "Soupy51 soupy51@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
It puts out 1.75 HP continuous and believe me it takes as heavy a cut as I need to take!!
 
Mike from Canada ​


On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Nelson Collar nel2lar@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 
Mike
Very nice, it looks too small motor on a lathe. But is more than needed, nice.
Nelson Collar


On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:12 PM, "soupy51@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 
I put my 2HP treadmill motor on today. Wow what a difference. I love the total control of the RPM. I'll use my digital Tachometer to mark the RPMs that correspond to the MPH on the controller. I used a 400J8 belt I had but a 360J8 or 340J8 would have been better. I took some hefty cuts and it didn't skip a beat. I wish I had done this sooner.
 
Mike from Canada 





--
“People that know they are important think about others, people that think they are important, think about themselves.” – Hans F. Hansen
 
Learn from the mistakes of others, you might not live long enough to make them all yourself!!!


saddle clamp

markfrazier16137@...
 

I was fiddling around in my shop today and thought I would put the saddle clamp on my 9 inch lathe. I know exactly where and how it goes, but cant get it in there. Do you have to loosen the two bolts holding the apron to the saddle to get enough clearance to get the clamp in place? And if so, is anything going to fall apart when I do, ( I just don't want one of those " oh crap" moments)


Mark

Re: Cleaning up black iron pipe

soupy1951ca
 

The Chinese pipe I used for my treadmill conversion controller mount turned down just fine. There were some hard spots but basically it turned down very nicely.
 
Mike from Canada​


On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Nelson Collar nel2lar@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

Rick
The best I can say is use pipe for what pipe is made to do. Pipe metal is not good for anything.  Another thing not to try is rebar, I believe they are made from similar metals--good for nothing but what they were designed to do.
Nelson Collar


On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:19 PM, "Rick Lathrop rickv100@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 
Anyone turned black iron plumbing pipe? I want to use some for a project and turn the mill scale off.

Rick





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“People that know they are important think about others, people that think they are important, think about themselves.” – Hans F. Hansen

 

Learn from the mistakes of others, you might not live long enough to make them all yourself!!!

Re: Treadmill Motor Conversion

soupy1951ca
 

It puts out 1.75 HP continuous and believe me it takes as heavy a cut as I need to take!!
 
Mike from Canada ​


On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Nelson Collar nel2lar@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:
 

Mike
Very nice, it looks too small motor on a lathe. But is more than needed, nice.
Nelson Collar


On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:12 PM, "soupy51@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 
I put my 2HP treadmill motor on today. Wow what a difference. I love the total control of the RPM. I'll use my digital Tachometer to mark the RPMs that correspond to the MPH on the controller. I used a 400J8 belt I had but a 360J8 or 340J8 would have been better. I took some hefty cuts and it didn't skip a beat. I wish I had done this sooner.
 
Mike from Canada 





--

“People that know they are important think about others, people that think they are important, think about themselves.” – Hans F. Hansen

 

Learn from the mistakes of others, you might not live long enough to make them all yourself!!!