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Re: thread dial
Flash Gordon
The only difference is how they attach to the carriage. But it is a big
difference and the heavy 10 one is usually cheaper.
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ED S
At 03:12 PM 1/29/2014, you wrote: Given that the thread pitch and lead screw diameter is the same for most of the lathes are the same, is the main difference in the threading dials the height and manner with which thy attach to the carriage.
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Re: thread dial [1 Attachment]
john kling
Given that the thread pitch and lead screw diameter is the same for most of the lathes are the same, is the main difference in the threading dials the height and manner with which thy attach to the carriage.
From: Ed S To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] thread dial [1 Attachment] Allan is correct the dial you need looks like this:
At 02:11 PM 1/29/2014, you wrote: >The wide bed 9" machines use the same thread dial as the heavy 10 >(10L) not the one from the 9" workshop. > >allan
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Re: thread dial
Flash Gordon
Allan is correct the dial you need looks like this:
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At 02:11 PM 1/29/2014, you wrote:
The wide bed 9" machines use the same thread dial as the heavy 10 (10L) not the one from the 9" workshop.
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Re: thread dial
m. allan noah
The wide bed 9" machines use the same thread dial as the heavy 10 (10L) not the one from the 9" workshop. allan
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:05 PM, oscar kern <kernbigo@...> wrote:
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thread dial
oscar kern <kernbigo@...>
Is this the write thread dial for a south bend 9" wide, model 407yn, my lathe is not even drilled for the dowel, noticed some have a bolt and a dowel?
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Re: gears
oscar kern <kernbigo@...>
I tried the 80/16 a little to fast, changing the 80 to a 56 or even a 40 would that get me some where's in between ?
From: Jim B. <btdtrf@...> To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] gears Hi Oscar.
I have a 1934 Cat #405. Its similar to your
lathe but not as heavy or good.
Here is what I do.
I manually feed most all of my work. (I
also have a Heavy 10 and do the same)
If I am looking for a very good finish on a
long piece than I use the slow power feed.
To answer your question
80/56*0.00225=0.00321 Not a lot faster.
If you want an intermediate feed, just
remove the 4:1 compound. Let the 80 tooth idler drive the 80 T screw gear form
the 16 tooth stud gear.
This will give you about a 0.009” per
turn feed.
Jim B.
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... ] On Behalf Of oscar kern
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:00 PM To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] gears Jim you were
write i fire my 9" the first time and the feed is really slow if i was to
buy one gear like change the 80 on the lead screw to a 56 how much more feed
would that give me? My gear chart is entirely different than another member
with a model 407. I believe you said now i was .002- .00225 feed rate
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
Flash Gordon
Ken
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Check your number again. If it is 14627 TKX, then it was shipped between April 1975 and July 1975 Ed S
At 11:34 PM 1/28/2014, you wrote: wow i am so excited re: my resurrection project .. ... after scraping off a 1/4 inch of grunge ... a serial # jumped out at me !! SB 13 x 40 #146271 KX ..
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
It looks like one built by Grizzly.
On Monday, January 27, 2014 1:33 PM, "Thomas.G.Brandl@..." wrote: Kind of curious. Built by SB in IN. Was
this a Korean built SB13. The 'Flame Hardend" badge looks like the
one on my SB9 (10K?) UMD bed.
Tom From: eschwerkolt@... To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Date: 01/27/2014 01:21 PM Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] 13 inch on Craigslist Sent by: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Nice lathe to look at:
This email has been scanned for Malware. ______________________________________________________________________
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
ken campbell
wow i am so excited re: my resurrection project
.. ... after scraping off a 1/4 inch of grunge ... a serial # jumped out
at me !! SB 13 x 40 #146271 KX
..
anybody got a guess ? no busted gears, taper
attach, lever clutch .. and follower and plain steady rest .. what could
go wrong ?
meanwhile i will try to read the helper sb files on
yahoo ..
ken
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
Gregg Eshelman
Using Google image search I found South Bend model 4229 serial #5 sold for around $1200, bit of a rusty one but would clean up, serial #80 went for $340 and was a real rust bucket. They were manufactured in 1988.
Both sold on government liquidation auction.
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Re: gears
Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
Hi Oscar. I have a 1934 Cat #405. Its similar to your lathe but not as heavy or good. Here is what I do. I manually feed most all of my work. (I also have a Heavy 10 and do the same) If I am looking for a very good finish on a long piece than I use the slow power feed.
To answer your question 80/56*0.00225=0.00321 Not a lot faster. If you want an intermediate feed, just remove the 4:1 compound. Let the 80 tooth idler drive the 80 T screw gear form the 16 tooth stud gear. This will give you about a 0.009” per turn feed.
Jim B.
From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... [mailto:SOUTHBENDLATHE@...] On Behalf Of oscar kern
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:00 PM To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] gears
Jim you were write i fire my 9" the first time and the feed is really slow if i was to buy one gear like change the 80 on the lead screw to a 56 how much more feed would that give me? My gear chart is entirely different than another member with a model 407. I believe you said now i was .002- .00225 feed rate
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
Gregg Eshelman
On 1/27/2014 11:23 AM, eschwerkolt@... wrote:
Someone bagged its twin brother for $340 from a government auction. http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=5958680
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Re: gears
oscar kern <kernbigo@...>
Jim you were write i fire my 9" the first time and the feed is really slow if i was to buy one gear like change the 80 on the lead screw to a 56 how much more feed would that give me? My gear chart is entirely different than another member with a model 407. I believe you said now i was .002- .00225 feed rate
From: Jim B. To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 2:16 PM Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] gears As it sits.
16/80 = 0.2 (Where 16 is your stud gear and
80 is the screw gear.
This is further reduced by the compound ¼*0.2=
0.05.
(The 80 tooth the engages with the stud
gear does not contribute to any gear reduction but does reverse the lead screw rotation)
That means that for every turn of the
spindle (The stud gear rotates at the same RPM as the spindle) the screw gear rotates
0.05 turns.
Now, I believe you have an 8 TPI lead
screw.
One turn of the lead screw moves the saddle
0.125”.
If there were nothing else going one, then
for every turn of the spindle the saddle would move 0.05 * 0.125” = 0.00625”
But if you have an apron with both cross
and horizontal feed, there is a further (approximate) 3:1 reduction.
Thus your slow feed would be 0.00625/3 =
0.0021” per turn of the spindle.
As a note if you mount the compound on the upper
rail of the banjo I believe it would engage the stud gear directly, eliminating
the 80 tooth idler and an additional source of backlash but the rotation of the
lead screw would be reversed.
Jim B.
yes mine is
16 pitch and the 80 is on the lead screw
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
Thomas G Brandl
I would appraise the complete deal as worth
$1500 to $2000, if the ways are in good usable shape.
The 'new' SB 13 is a bit harder. Parts availbility would scare me off, for that price. I'd probably be looking for a LeBlond Servo Shift 15 or a SB Turnado (or variant). In some respects I think the price is justified as to compare to the offerings from Grizzly, JET etc. Tom From: thomas.g.brandl@... To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Date: 01/28/2014 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] RE: 13 inch on Craigslist Sent by: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... No, I saw it. OK, the taper attachment
is worth the price. The Steady rest and telescopic following rest, the
buyer can sent to me for apprasal fees.
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
Thomas G Brandl
No, I saw it. OK, the taper attachment
is worth the price. The Steady rest and telescopic following rest, the
buyer can sent to me for apprasal fees.
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Tom From: Ed S <eschwerkolt@...> To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Date: 01/28/2014 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] RE: 13 inch on Craigslist Sent by: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... You missed the taper attachment.
At 09:50 AM 1/28/2014, you wrote:
The steady rest and the follower rest are worth the price. Tom
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
Flash Gordon
You missed the taper attachment.
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Ed S
At 09:50 AM 1/28/2014, you wrote: The steady rest and the follower rest are worth the price.
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
Flash Gordon
Your not that far away!
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Ed S
At 10:07 AM 1/28/2014, you wrote:
Oh if I could get rid of my two lathes and bring one real machine like this one home.
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
john kling
Oh if I could get rid of my two lathes and bring one real machine like this one home.
From: Soupy51 To: "southbendlathe@..." Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] RE: 13 inch on Craigslist They're giving that one away!! Mike from Canada On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Ed S <eschwerkolt@...> wrote:
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
soupy1951ca
They're giving that one away!! Mike from Canada On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Ed S <eschwerkolt@...> wrote:
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Re: 13 inch on Craigslist
Thomas G Brandl
The steady rest and the follower rest are
worth the price.
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Tom From: Ed S <eschwerkolt@...> To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Date: 01/28/2014 09:46 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] RE: 13 inch on Craigslist Sent by: SOUTHBENDLATHE@... Here is an older one on Craigs list,,, good price.
At 12:34 AM 1/28/2014, you wrote:
Sure looks like your typical 'modern' Asian lathe, I prefer the original SB lines
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