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Re: Milling Attachment

Randy Pedersen <rpedersen1@...>
 

Kim:

I hope he is recovering well!

Randy Pedersen

----- Original Message -----
From: <steiner@psu.edu>
To: <southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:33 AM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling Attachment


Andy had an operation Friday for a detached retina and will not be at
Cabin Fever. He is greatly disappointed about this, not the least
because many of his customers seem to only want to buy "on-site." I
have been trying to get him on the net as I think this will help his
business. I believe we will be getting there once he recovers. Kim
Steiner

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, Stan Stocker <skstocker@a...>
wrote:
Hi Okey;

I don't mill on a lathe, but Andys' castings and instructions are
first
rate. He's one of the good guys if you choose to go this route.
If
you're going to Cabin Fever Andy will be there.

Cheers,
Stan


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Re: Milling Attachment

Randy Pedersen <rpedersen1@...>
 

Most of us have more time than money and not as much of that any more.

Randy

----- Original Message -----
From: <terranovapress@antiquaries.com>
To: <southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Milling Attachment


I haven't gone tis route and it looks like a nice item. However, it
isn't cheap especially considering your time. If it is just the
milling attachment you want and not the fun of making one, I suggest
a Palmgren. I use one on my 10k and it is nice

Frank


Re: Milling Attachment

Kim Steiner
 

Andy had an operation Friday for a detached retina and will not be at
Cabin Fever. He is greatly disappointed about this, not the least
because many of his customers seem to only want to buy "on-site." I
have been trying to get him on the net as I think this will help his
business. I believe we will be getting there once he recovers. Kim
Steiner

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, Stan Stocker <skstocker@a...>
wrote:
Hi Okey;

I don't mill on a lathe, but Andys' castings and instructions are
first
rate. He's one of the good guys if you choose to go this route.
If
you're going to Cabin Fever Andy will be there.

Cheers,
Stan


Re: Bed evaluation

sbwest2002
 

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "qbox09 <mg.bug@v...>"
<mg.bug@v...> wrote:
With regards to a 9" South Bend, how do you evaluate the condition
of the bed? I understand the use of the carriage lock to indicate
that wear is present in one area compared to an unworn part of the
bed. But how do you quantify (in .001"s) the amount of wear? How
much is too much? Can a straight edge and feeler gauge be used?

Finally, how do you evaluate a used, naked bed? Could a person
file
off the ridge that forms at the top of the VEE and make a junk bed
appear to be servicable? It's a jungle out there.

Thank you.
I have used the technique that is described in the Connelly "
Machine Tool Reconditioning" book. It is to put a straight edge at
right angles to the ware area with a piece of paper at each end and
measure ware with feeler gages between ends bridging the ware area.
Of cource there is ware on both sides of a V way and also ware in
the saddle ways, so the drop could be a fair amount. Most of the 9"
SBs out there have some ware that can partially be corrected for by
using the SB " How to run a lathe" in that you level the bed by the
cut you take on two spaced diameters . Also read the Meridian " In
praize os the Clunker" on his web site.
The diference between a worn bed and getting it reground say for a
Heavy 10 is about $ 1000 , so you better be in love with it to get
this done. A few guys do love them so spend the money.
Walt


Re: QC tool posts: KDK vs. Aloris?

terranovapress@...
 

I have a Phase III piston type that came with my 10k. I use it a bit and it is a nice additiion. I use it mostly for parting - still like the old lantern post best, but I'm set in my ways (pun, guys!)

Would not pay extra for the expanding dovetail type for general home use

Frank

Hi Bill;

A piston type QCTP has a plunger that shoves the toolholder away from
the toolpost, locking the toolholder against fixed dovetails with pretty
good repeatability. The plunger is the plate in between the male
dovetails on the toolpost.

A wedge type expands one of the toolpost dovetails, the fixed dovetail
always acts as the reference. The wedge type offers a bit more
repeatability of settings (in the tenths), while a piston type typically
repeats to a thou or so. Wedge type toolholders are a bit more rigid,
the toolholder can't wiggle around at all when taking a really heavy
cut. Generally speaking, most folks who don't push their machines to
the limit or who have smaller machines get fine results using a piston
type toolpost. Those who take the heaviest cuts possible on large
powerful lathes or use CNC and want to have a tool change be repeatable
to a very high degree of accuracy find the wedge type preferable.

Cheers,
Stan

gabil1980 wrote:
--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Reeser <Gorvil@a...>"
<Gorvil@a...> wrote:

I know this isn't what you asked, but...

The latest ENCO flyer has the Phase II post sets for $89.00.
I bought a HF version for the same price and after fixing its
problems I have been happy with it. From all accounts Phase II
is a large step in quality above Harbour Freight.

>>Glen Reeser
>


Re: Milling Attachment

terranovapress@...
 

I haven't gone tis route and it looks like a nice item. However, it isn't cheap especially considering your time. If it is just the milling attachment you want and not the fun of making one, I suggest a Palmgren. I use one on my 10k and it is nice

Frank


 Does anyone in the group have any experience or comments on the milling attachment for the 9" SB at http://www.statecollegecentral.com/metallathe/index.html   ? As far as I can tell from the description of the castings there, it appears that one would need the ML-5 and the S4382A milling base, plus the acme nut for a total of around $150 plus shipping. Just curious if anyone has gone this route.
 
Okey

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Re: Bed evaluation

Thomas G Brandl
 

Some how I thought this was addressed to me and from the guy in Minneasota
(sp). I was refering in the previous post about a horizontal bed I have.
Qbox is looking for an UND bed. Sorry for the confusion. Also, besides the
amount of wear in depth, you have to look at the eveness of wear and in
relation to the length of parts to be machined.
Tom




"qbox09 <mg.bug@verizon.net>" <mg.bug on 01/13/2003 06:24:39 PM

Please respond to southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com

To: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [southbendlathe] Bed evaluation


With regards to a 9" South Bend, how do you evaluate the condition
of the bed? I understand the use of the carriage lock to indicate
that wear is present in one area compared to an unworn part of the
bed. But how do you quantify (in .001"s) the amount of wear? How
much is too much? Can a straight edge and feeler gauge be used?

Finally, how do you evaluate a used, naked bed? Could a person file
off the ridge that forms at the top of the VEE and make a junk bed
appear to be servicable? It's a jungle out there.

Thank you.


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Re: Bed evaluation

Thomas G Brandl
 

I'll have to recheck the one bed I have available and see if its good
enough to sell. Determining what I would consider usable or not might be
different than yours or someone elses. As far as filing off the vee, this
wouldn't take care of some of the other problems. The bed would still be
bowed. You would have accuracy problems, since your tool would be rising
and lowering during the cut. Posiibly for what work you want to do, this
would be a problem. I would say the wear in a bed would be somewhere is the
.005-.010 range that would be going bad. More than a few of the beds where
beyond that. I think the bed I have available has about .005 wear, maybe a
bit less. I'll try and inspect it in the next couple of days.
Tom




"qbox09 <mg.bug@verizon.net>" <mg.bug on 01/13/2003 06:24:39 PM

Please respond to southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com

To: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
cc:
Subject: [southbendlathe] Bed evaluation


With regards to a 9" South Bend, how do you evaluate the condition
of the bed? I understand the use of the carriage lock to indicate
that wear is present in one area compared to an unworn part of the
bed. But how do you quantify (in .001"s) the amount of wear? How
much is too much? Can a straight edge and feeler gauge be used?

Finally, how do you evaluate a used, naked bed? Could a person file
off the ridge that forms at the top of the VEE and make a junk bed
appear to be servicable? It's a jungle out there.

Thank you.


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Quick change tool post quick response

gabil1980 <gabil@softdisk.com> <gabil@...>
 

Dang, its sure nice to have an information source like this!!

Two responses within a couple hours on my question about wedge and
piston tool posts and I'm very comfortable in making a decision on
what choice i'll make, the ENCO piston type, and be for the SB 9A.
I'm a backyard metalcaster, don't think i'll get any gov contracts
soon.

This does raise another question tho. What type tool does this take
for turning? In the ENCO flyer, is it the indexable carbide tool
holder (5pc set)? What size? 3/8"? Or will those import brazed
carbide things work? What size?



Thanks Folks!!!
Bill Pace


Re: Milling Attachment

Stan Stocker <skstocker@...>
 

Hi Okey;

I don't mill on a lathe, but Andys' castings and instructions are first rate. He's one of the good guys if you choose to go this route. If you're going to Cabin Fever Andy will be there.

Cheers,
Stan

Okey Caynor wrote:

Does anyone in the group have any experience or comments on the milling attachment for the 9" SB at http://www.statecollegecentral.com/metallathe/index.html ? As far as I can tell from the description of the castings there, it appears that one would need the ML-5 and the S4382A milling base, plus the acme nut for a total of around $150 plus shipping. Just curious if anyone has gone this route.
Okey


Re: QC tool posts: KDK vs. Aloris?

Stan Stocker <skstocker@...>
 

Hi Bill;

A piston type QCTP has a plunger that shoves the toolholder away from the toolpost, locking the toolholder against fixed dovetails with pretty good repeatability. The plunger is the plate in between the male dovetails on the toolpost.

A wedge type expands one of the toolpost dovetails, the fixed dovetail always acts as the reference. The wedge type offers a bit more repeatability of settings (in the tenths), while a piston type typically repeats to a thou or so. Wedge type toolholders are a bit more rigid, the toolholder can't wiggle around at all when taking a really heavy cut. Generally speaking, most folks who don't push their machines to the limit or who have smaller machines get fine results using a piston type toolpost. Those who take the heaviest cuts possible on large powerful lathes or use CNC and want to have a tool change be repeatable to a very high degree of accuracy find the wedge type preferable.

Cheers,
Stan

gabil1980 wrote:

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Reeser <Gorvil@a...>" <Gorvil@a...> wrote:

I know this isn't what you asked, but...

The latest ENCO flyer has the Phase II post sets for $89.00.
I bought a HF version for the same price and after fixing its
problems I have been happy with it. From all accounts Phase II
is a large step in quality above Harbour Freight.


Glen Reeser
I got the ENCO flyer today also. My question is, whats the difference in the piston and the wedge in that Phase II ad? Besides almost double the price. Theres almost no difference in appearance in the little picture.
I also would like to update the old lantern toolpost, but until these import quick change came along and then started to discount them, I couldnt justify the cost (Well, ah, er, that is the wife couldnt justify). Anyway, some explanation on these two types would be greatly appreciated.
I too think ENCO has a better quality than Harbor Frt.
Bill Pace


Re: Milling Attachment

gorvil
 

Hi Okey,



I bought a set of the MLA castings from someone on this list and got the leadscrew and nut from another most generous member of the list.

Yoy only need the milling base if you also plan to mount the unit on a T-slot cross slide. The basic milling attachment casting set mounts in the compound spigot hole. The base plate has a spigot hole and can be bolted down on the T-slot cross slide.



I just finished my T-slot cross slide so I guess the next project will be the base.



Cheers!



Glen Reeser

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Okey Caynor" <cal5@f...> wrote:

Does anyone in the group have any experience or comments on the milling
attachment for the 9" SB at
http://www.statecollegecentral.com/metallathe/index.html ? As far as I can
tell from the description of the castings there, it appears that one would
need the ML-5 and the S4382A milling base, plus the acme nut for a total of
around $150 plus shipping. Just curious if anyone has gone this route.
Okey


Re: QC tool posts: KDK vs. Aloris?

gorvil
 

The piston type has a cam driven piston that comes out normal to the face of the dovetail. The wedge type has a dingus that expands the width of the dove tail. The wedge should be more repeatable and less suject to wear, I guess. For my home shop chip making, I don't think I would improve chip quality that much with the wedge.



Glen Reeser

I got the ENCO flyer today also. My question is, whats the difference
in the piston and the wedge in that Phase II ad? Besides almost
double the price. Theres almost no difference in appearance in the
little picture.
I also would like to update the old lantern toolpost, but until
these import quick change came along and then started to discount
them, I couldnt justify the cost (Well, ah, er, that is the wife
couldnt justify). Anyway, some explanation on these two types would
be greatly appreciated.
I too think ENCO has a better quality than Harbor Frt.
Bill Pace


threading/feed index plate

rgpeer53
 

found my plate at meridian machine,mohntown pa. 610-656-0449. or email
dave@mermac.com. does not have the fancy red coloring but looks like
whats on his web page. paid 26.75 del. mine was for 9 in if there is a
difference bettween 9 or 10 in. ps buy extra drive in rivets, wish i
had and pre bend plate to conture of gearbox. hope this helps good luck
rick


Re: QC tool posts: KDK vs. Aloris?

gabil1980 <gabil@softdisk.com> <gabil@...>
 

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Reeser <Gorvil@a...>"
<Gorvil@a...> wrote:
I know this isn't what you asked, but...

The latest ENCO flyer has the Phase II post sets for $89.00.
I bought a HF version for the same price and after fixing its
problems I have been happy with it. From all accounts Phase II
is a large step in quality above Harbour Freight.


Glen Reeser

I got the ENCO flyer today also. My question is, whats the difference
in the piston and the wedge in that Phase II ad? Besides almost
double the price. Theres almost no difference in appearance in the
little picture.
I also would like to update the old lantern toolpost, but until
these import quick change came along and then started to discount
them, I couldnt justify the cost (Well, ah, er, that is the wife
couldnt justify). Anyway, some explanation on these two types would
be greatly appreciated.
I too think ENCO has a better quality than Harbor Frt.

Bill Pace


Milling Attachment

Okey Caynor <cal5@...>
 

 Does anyone in the group have any experience or comments on the milling attachment for the 9" SB at http://www.statecollegecentral.com/metallathe/index.html   ? As far as I can tell from the description of the castings there, it appears that one would need the ML-5 and the S4382A milling base, plus the acme nut for a total of around $150 plus shipping. Just curious if anyone has gone this route.
 
Okey


Bed evaluation

qbox09
 

With regards to a 9" South Bend, how do you evaluate the condition
of the bed? I understand the use of the carriage lock to indicate
that wear is present in one area compared to an unworn part of the
bed. But how do you quantify (in .001"s) the amount of wear? How
much is too much? Can a straight edge and feeler gauge be used?

Finally, how do you evaluate a used, naked bed? Could a person file
off the ridge that forms at the top of the VEE and make a junk bed
appear to be servicable? It's a jungle out there.

Thank you.


Re: Who is jump_nkd ?

gorvil
 

Anthony,

I clicked on his name in the members list and it took me to his Yahoo
profile. I had to certify that I was 18 years or older first. It
lists his email as jumpnkd(at)aol.com. Lose the underscore.

Glen


--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "lurchix <lurch@t...>"
<lurch@t...> wrote:
try attbi [dot] com

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Reeser <Gorvil@a...>"
<Gorvil@a...> wrote:
Hi Anthony,

I see a jumpnkd in the members file. His partial email is jumpnkd
(at)
a. I suspect that he's on AOL. AOL allows spaces in email
addresses. Mine on AOL is G Orvil(at)AOL. It collapses to
Gorvil
outside of AOL.

Glen Reeser


--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, anthrhodes@a... wrote:
I tried addressing this before.

When I was accepting names of people who wanted Parts List
Scans I
received a
message from "jump_nkd" indicating he was interested in
anything
relating to
an SB 13". At the time I didn't pay any attention to the
missing
"@xxx.xxx",
as AOL strips that part of the address from messages when an
AOLer
sends a
message to another AOLer I presumed that that was the
explanantion.
Since
then I've tried to contact this person directly without
success,
and I posted
the problem in one of my earlier messages to the group. I'll
give
it one last
try.

Jump_nkd , if your out there or if anybody on the list knows
who
this is,
provide me with a method by which you can be contacted.

Anthony
Berkeley, Calif.


Re: Who is jump_nkd ?

lurchix <lurch@theramp.net> <lurch@...>
 

try attbi [dot] com

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Reeser <Gorvil@a...>"
<Gorvil@a...> wrote:
Hi Anthony,

I see a jumpnkd in the members file. His partial email is jumpnkd(at)
a. I suspect that he's on AOL. AOL allows spaces in email
addresses. Mine on AOL is G Orvil(at)AOL. It collapses to Gorvil
outside of AOL.

Glen Reeser


--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, anthrhodes@a... wrote:
I tried addressing this before.

When I was accepting names of people who wanted Parts List Scans I
received a
message from "jump_nkd" indicating he was interested in anything
relating to
an SB 13". At the time I didn't pay any attention to the missing
"@xxx.xxx",
as AOL strips that part of the address from messages when an AOLer
sends a
message to another AOLer I presumed that that was the explanantion.
Since
then I've tried to contact this person directly without success,
and I posted
the problem in one of my earlier messages to the group. I'll give
it one last
try.

Jump_nkd , if your out there or if anybody on the list knows who
this is,
provide me with a method by which you can be contacted.

Anthony
Berkeley, Calif.


Re: Who is jump_nkd ?

gorvil
 

Hi Anthony,

I see a jumpnkd in the members file. His partial email is jumpnkd(at)
a. I suspect that he's on AOL. AOL allows spaces in email
addresses. Mine on AOL is G Orvil(at)AOL. It collapses to Gorvil
outside of AOL.

Glen Reeser


--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, anthrhodes@a... wrote:
I tried addressing this before.

When I was accepting names of people who wanted Parts List Scans I
received a
message from "jump_nkd" indicating he was interested in anything
relating to
an SB 13". At the time I didn't pay any attention to the missing
"@xxx.xxx",
as AOL strips that part of the address from messages when an AOLer
sends a
message to another AOLer I presumed that that was the explanantion.
Since
then I've tried to contact this person directly without success,
and I posted
the problem in one of my earlier messages to the group. I'll give
it one last
try.

Jump_nkd , if your out there or if anybody on the list knows who
this is,
provide me with a method by which you can be contacted.

Anthony
Berkeley, Calif.

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