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Re: 1 1/2-8 tap needed

jim and rose
 

$59 but it now on ebay
 
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: 1 1/2-8 tap needed
 
 

Your question started of asking for a tap. They do not make that thread any more, unless someone knows different. The best thing to do is to cut the thread on your lathe. Start out making the external threads first, then the internal internal using the external as a gauge for the fit. It not that big a deal just pay attention when cutting the threads both in and out, and the practice is good for the more you learn. the more you will be able to do.
Nelson Collar
 

From: Charles Tucker <1954wd45@...>
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: 1 1/2-8 tap needed
 
 
What you have to tap won't fit in the lathe chuck or faceplate???

> Anyone know where I can buy one at at a low cost?
> I just can see spending alot on something Im going to use only once.
>
> Or anyone willing to loan or rent one to me?
>




Re: 1 1/2-8 tap needed

Nelson Collar
 

Your question started of asking for a tap. They do not make that thread any more, unless someone knows different. The best thing to do is to cut the thread on your lathe. Start out making the external threads first, then the internal internal using the external as a gauge for the fit. It not that big a deal just pay attention when cutting the threads both in and out, and the practice is good for the more you learn. the more you will be able to do.
Nelson Collar


From: Charles Tucker <1954wd45@...>
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: 1 1/2-8 tap needed

 
What you have to tap won't fit in the lathe chuck or faceplate???

> Anyone know where I can buy one at at a low cost?
> I just can see spending alot on something Im going to use only once.
>
> Or anyone willing to loan or rent one to me?
>




Re: Cheater Bars etc-was Compound Rest Disassembly

Thomas G Brandl
 

        I can understand that, on cheater bars. I think I replaced those shafts around 96 to 98. I just didn't have any section of pipe around. Also, pneumatic 'air' guns work wonders. At least good ones.
        Early in my apprentiship for machining, I had worked as a machinist for two years elsewhere, there was a job with 1-1/2 or 1-3/4 pipe threads. I remember the CNC machines were all booked. I said I'd try it on one of the manual lathes. Another apprentice was there. He was 6'6" and 365 lbs. He said, get a 6ft cheater bar and if that don't work come get him. I could tell the supervisior was a bit aprehensive that I'd get the pipe threads done. There was a pipe tap for this. I can't remember if I just did a straight thread on them, or set up the taper attachment and got them close. Either way a BFC did the trick for the final fit or cleanup of threads. Really easy if you not cutting the taper and new threads all at once.
                                                        Tom



From:        "Jim B." <btdtrf@...>
To:        southbendlathe@...
Date:        02/26/2013 01:24 PM
Subject:        Re: [southbendlathe] Compound Rest Disassembly
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hopped up and down on that bar. I >weighted about 170 lbs back then. It >wouldn't budge. I coworker lent be a 4 ft >breaker bar. The nut just popped off, so >easy. Tom

My daughter is a journeyman fitter. While she works our almost every day her tool kit contains a large selection of "cheater" bars (pipe extensions)

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Re: Compound Rest Disassembly

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

<Well, I was using a 2-1/2 ft breaker bar. I >hopped up and down on that bar. I >weighted about 170 lbs back then. It >wouldn't budge. I coworker lent be a 4 ft >breaker bar. The nut just popped off, so >easy. Tom

My daughter is a journeyman fitter. While she works our almost every day her tool kit contains a large selection of "cheater" bars (pipe extensions)

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Re: Compound Rest Disassembly

Thomas G Brandl
 

Nelson,
        Sometimes I should follow that advice. I feel like Gilda Radner on SNL, 'Oh, never mind', many times. Also, some of my advice, is written or given in my skill context. The word 'pry' to me is to use a lever to move something, as in pry bar. It doesn't differenciate between what amount of force is used. To some ' pry' might have the connotation to hop up and down on something like an 800 lb gorrilla. Sometimes, you do have to do that. I was changing the CV or front drive shafts on a Ford Tempo I had. It was a former Michigan car. Yeah, rust. I had to bang the rotors off once. Well, I was using a 2-1/2 ft breaker bar. I hopped up and down on that bar. I weighted about 170 lbs back then. It wouldn't budge. I coworker lent be a 4 ft breaker bar.   The nut just popped off, so easy.
                                                                Tom



From:        Nelson Collar <nel2lar@...>
To:        "southbendlathe@..." <southbendlathe@...>
Date:        02/26/2013 12:22 PM
Subject:        Re: [southbendlathe] Compound Rest Disassembly
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I had the same problem getting mine off and what I did was to spray a good penetrating oil like PB Breaker or Liquid Wrench. After letting it soak I put even pressure on both the front and the back lifting and giving a twist to it. The straighter you pill it up and with the rotation it will come up. Continue to spray with the penetrating oil. Don't use a steel bar on it it will mark it. Use something like brass or aluminum. Thanks Tom I'm trying to get the facts before I run my mouth. Cheers.

Good luck,
Nelson Collar




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Re: 1 1/2-8 tap needed

Charles Tucker <1954wd45@...>
 

What you have to tap won't fit in the lathe chuck or faceplate???

Anyone know where I can buy one at at a low cost?
I just can see spending alot on something Im going to use only once.

Or anyone willing to loan or rent one to me?


Re: 1 1/2-8 tap needed

David Rysdam <david@...>
 

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:54:45 -0000, "wedge446" <wedge446@...> wrote:
Anyone know where I can buy one at at a low cost?
I just can see spending alot on something Im going to use only once.
If this is to make threads to match your spindle, you probably don't
want to use a tap anyway. You want to cut them on the lathe to ensure
true concentricity and parallelism. Plus it'll be WAAAAY cheaper.


1 1/2-8 tap needed

wedge446
 

Anyone know where I can buy one at at a low cost?
I just can see spending alot on something Im going to use only once.

Or anyone willing to loan or rent one to me?


Re: Compound Rest Disassembly

Nelson Collar
 

I had the same problem getting mine off and what I did was to spray a good penetrating oil like PB Breaker or Liquid Wrench. After letting it soak I put even pressure on both the front and the back lifting and giving a twist to it. The straighter you pill it up and with the rotation it will come up. Continue to spray with the penetrating oil. Don't use a steel bar on it it will mark it. Use something like brass or aluminum. Thanks Tom I'm trying to get the facts before I run my mouth. Cheers.
Good luck,
Nelson Collar 


From: "Thomas.G.Brandl@..."
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Compound Rest Disassembly

 
Nelson,
        I took the original post as seperating the two halves of the compound. Yes the part with the tool holder slot. I figured he had it off the cross slide.
                                                        Tom



From:        Nelson Collar
To:        "southbendlathe@..."
Date:        02/26/2013 11:31 AM
Subject:        Re: [southbendlathe] Compound Rest Disassembly
Sent by:        southbendlathe@...




 
I do not know if I'm reading this thread right or wrong. Is the "compound rest" that you are referring to is the compound only? With the tool holder slot? Help me out I'm confused, but that is a good place to be at times.
Cheers
Nelson Collar


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Re: Compound Rest Disassembly

Thomas G Brandl
 

Nelson,
        I took the original post as seperating the two halves of the compound. Yes the part with the tool holder slot. I figured he had it off the cross slide.
                                                        Tom



From:        Nelson Collar <nel2lar@...>
To:        "southbendlathe@..." <southbendlathe@...>
Date:        02/26/2013 11:31 AM
Subject:        Re: [southbendlathe] Compound Rest Disassembly
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I do not know if I'm reading this thread right or wrong. Is the "compound rest" that you are referring to is the compound only? With the tool holder slot? Help me out I'm confused, but that is a good place to be at times.

Cheers
Nelson Collar


From: "Thomas.G.Brandl@..." <Thoma
 


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Re: Compound Rest Disassembly

Nelson Collar
 

I do not know if I'm reading this thread right or wrong. Is the "compound rest" that you are referring to is the compound only? With the tool holder slot? Help me out I'm confused, but that is a good place to be at times.
Cheers
Nelson Collar


From: "Thomas.G.Brandl@..." <Thomas.G.Brandl@...>
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Compound Rest Disassembly

 
Mule,
        Going by memory. I think first you have to unscrew the graduated collar. The screw is attached to it. It is longer than the compound housing can go. With the compound lead screw out, and the gib out, the two halves still won't seperate. The nut that the lead screw goes into, won't clear. You sort of have to pry it out.
                                                Tom



From:        rubysmule
To:        southbendlathe@...
Date:        02/26/2013 10:06 AM
Subject:        [southbendlathe] Compound Rest Disassembly
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I have a 1941, 9" mod C, it has seen some very rough years. The last two were
outside with the sky as a roof. I have the compound rest freed up, but I would
like to totally disassemble it. How do I remove the compound rest bushing? Why
can't I screw the compound screw out of the brass nut. Maybe I should explain
what I have disassembled. I have removed the gib, the ball crank assembly, and
the graduated collar.
Any help will be appreciated.

Mule


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Re: Compound Rest Disassembly

Thomas G Brandl
 

Jim,
        That is prying. Yes, be gentile. No need to go hog wild with force here. Also, add mild heat and penetrating oil if hard to come out.
                                Tom



From:        "Jim B." <btdtrf@...>
To:        southbendlathe@...
Date:        02/26/2013 10:30 AM
Subject:        Re: [southbendlathe] Compound Rest Disassembly
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.> You sort of have to pry it out. Tom

No! DO NOT PRY.

Be sure the nut is loose. There is an axial screw in the top of the nut but even with this loose the nut may be stuck.
Use lots of penetrating oil.
Place a long flat skinny screw driver between the castings.
Force the nut up into the top half, all the way.
Now the two halves will slide apart.
Jim B
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Re: Compound Rest Disassembly

Jim B. <btdtrf@...>
 

.> You sort of have to pry it out. Tom

No! DO NOT PRY.

Be sure the nut is loose. There is an axial screw in the top of the nut but even with this loose the nut may be stuck.
Use lots of penetrating oil.
Place a long flat skinny screw driver between the castings.
Force the nut up into the top half, all the way.
Now the two halves will slide apart.
Jim B
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Re: Compound Rest Disassembly

Thomas G Brandl
 

Mule,
        Going by memory. I think first you have to unscrew the graduated collar. The screw is attached to it. It is longer than the compound housing can go. With the compound lead screw out, and the gib out, the two halves still won't seperate. The nut that the lead screw goes into, won't clear. You sort of have to pry it out.
                                                Tom



From:        rubysmule <RubysMule@...>
To:        southbendlathe@...
Date:        02/26/2013 10:06 AM
Subject:        [southbendlathe] Compound Rest Disassembly
Sent by:        southbendlathe@...




 

I have a 1941, 9" mod C, it has seen some very rough years. The last two were
outside with the sky as a roof. I have the compound rest freed up, but I would
like to totally disassemble it. How do I remove the compound rest bushing? Why
can't I screw the compound screw out of the brass nut. Maybe I should explain
what I have disassembled. I have removed the gib, the ball crank assembly, and
the graduated collar.
Any help will be appreciated.

Mule



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Re: Lathe Identification Feb2513

soupy1951ca
 

Where you at in Florida Nelson? I'm in Madeira Beach for 3 months from the snowy north until Apr. 15.
 
Mike from Canada (1200 miles from Tampa)

On 26 February 2013 00:22, Nelson Collar <nel2lar@...> wrote:
 

That is a little bit far to go for a lathe. Living in Florida it almost around the world, south to north. Thanks Mike
Nelson Collar 


From: Soupy51 <soupy51@...>
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Lathe Identification Feb2513

 
It is in British Columbia, Canada, far west coast.
 
Mike from Canada

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Re: Long taper attachment

Mark Hofer
 

Richard,
I agree with Mike, a terrific job!  However unlike Mike's good fortune, my SB9A did not come with a taper attachment.  Perhaps you might consider posting a project description and photos much like what JimB has done with the large dial-collar upgrade to help the rest of us learn from your experience and obvious expertise?
M

 

A very fine looking taper attachment Richard. If mine hadn't come with an original I would be requesting more info to build one just like it. Great job.

Mike from Canada

> A friend has a10K with a long taper attachment on it so I just took some pix's and Dim's and got to work.
> After several hours and about $35.00 in material I got my longer taper attachment.
> You can see it in the photos under Richard's 1929 SB.
> I may not ever need to use it put if I do I will have it.
> Richard



OT: anyone here on the benchmaster/duro mill mailing list?

David Rysdam <david@...>
 

I bought an MV 1 and I'm trying to get onto the benchmaster mailing
list. Recent activity shows they are still alive as of this month but I
can't get my subscription OK'd. Maybe the moderator is on vacation? Is
anyone here on that list that can check?


Compound Rest Disassembly

rubysmule <RubysMule@...>
 

I have a 1941, 9" mod C, it has seen some very rough years. The last two were
outside with the sky as a roof. I have the compound rest freed up, but I would
like to totally disassemble it. How do I remove the compound rest bushing? Why
can't I screw the compound screw out of the brass nut. Maybe I should explain
what I have disassembled. I have removed the gib, the ball crank assembly, and
the graduated collar.
Any help will be appreciated.

Mule


Re: Lathe Identification Feb2513

m. allan noah
 

frankenlathe. Its pretty clear that cone pulley and back gears came from a different machine, and the bearing caps are obviously shop made. Looks like a worchester pattern tailstock, and no compound. That would mean the long feed and cross feed handwheels are replacements for earlier balanced handles. what terrible quality pictures...

allan


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Mar <martik777@...> wrote:
 

http://abbotsford.en.craigslist.ca/tls/3629673625.html

Anyone know what make this might be?




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Re: Lathe Identification Feb2513

Nelson Collar
 

That is a little bit far to go for a lathe. Living in Florida it almost around the world, south to north. Thanks Mike
Nelson Collar 


From: Soupy51
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Lathe Identification Feb2513

 
It is in British Columbia, Canada, far west coast.
 
Mike from Canada

On 25 February 2013 23:34, Nelson Collar <nel2lar@...> wrote:
 
I do not know what model or brand it is but I'm sure it has some slow speeds. See the transmission above the spindle. $150 is a steal, its got be worth that at the scrap yard. Does any one know where Fraser Valley is at?
Nelson Collar


From: Mar <martik777@...>
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:27 PM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Lathe Identification Feb2513

 
http://abbotsford.en.craigslist.ca/tls/3629673625.html

Anyone know what make this might be?






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