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SB Tool holder Post

Clint D <driggars@...>
 

Hi
I need advice on the type of tool holders I need to get for my 9" SB
I am getting kind of confused with all the choices on Ebay, most do not give descriptions that are satisfactory and will work with the lathe. Also does any one know where I might obtain a tool post Holder.
Then I need to know what all would I need to run Drill Chucks on the Tail stock and head stock, I am trying to learn the differences in what they call Morse tapers, etc.
Clint


Re: Aloris AXA question

kcstott
 

Thats not a radius cutter thats an adjustable angle cutter for times
when you don't whant to move the base ( as in threading) you can
adjust the tool. we have a few of theses at work but don't use them
much


--- In southbendlathe@y..., Scott Fuller <sefuller@w...> wrote:


Neil wrote:

Lew, I'm surprised you did not get a response from Aloris. I
called
them a while back, talked with a tech. person on how to remove the
adjusting screw and he sent me a 2 free adj. screws and a new
catalog. I have the AXA by the way but I don't recognize the
holder
Scott describes. I suggest call Aloris, 973-772-1201.
I called Aloris this morning as well and talked to a very helpful
tech
person. On the piston style toolpost, he said the holes in the
center
of the pistons are threaded, and if you make a puller you can pull
both pistons out approximately 1/8" simultaneously, then remove the
lever assembly through the top. He said both pistons should extend
the same amount, and one is probably just worn more than the
other. I
will see if I can shim it somehow from the inside.

I looked at the MSC online catalogue, and my holders look very
similar
to the DTM holders, but they do not have DTM stamped on them. The
DTM
holders have a set screw with a recessed allen socket in the top, as
mine do, and I am now suspecting that I may not have gotten the
thumb
wheel and nut for the tops of my holders. What I can't see in the
MSC
pictures is if the set screws in the DTM holders go all the way
through to the bottom. Either way, I could make up some thumb wheel
screws and buy some nuts and use mine that way.

One of the holders I got is a radius cutter, but I have no idea how
it
works. The front portion that holds the cutter pivots 90 degrees,
but
I don't see any way to control it, other than to secure it in a
fixed
position. Anyone have any insight on this?

Thanks,

--
Scott Fuller
Milwaukee, WI


Re: first southbend, now bridgeport

kcstott
 

I hope you own a ford.




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Wishful thinking?
JWE
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Re: Is this an 11 inch lathe?

frankkerfoot
 

Oops- It is www.lathes.co.uk. (look in the South Bend section, 1920 to 1930)
Frank
 
 By the way, Tony Griffith (in the UK, oddly enough) has a figure showing the 11" South Bend lathe from that era on his website, www.lathe.co.uk.

Frank Kerfoot


Re: Is this an 11 inch lathe?

frankkerfoot
 

South Bend made an 11" lathe in the 1920's and 30's. Your serial number of ~20,000 is consistent with that range of dates. It was available with a 60" bed length. The 1934 catalog reprint I have lists the swing over the bed as 11 1/4", and you mention a center height of 5 3/8". Is that straight down to the bed or to the nearest part of the bed to the center in any radial direction (defining the work size which it can swing)? The 3 step pulley is right (but most lathes fit that). It was available with an "over the headstock" electric motor drive. By the way, Tony Griffith (in the UK, oddly enough) has a figure showing the 11" South Bend lathe from that era on his website, www.lathe.co.uk.
Frank Kerfoot

From: walpick55
 
Serial No. 20617
65 inches from gear cover to end of bed.
60 inch bed length.
From centre chuck to ways measures approx 5 3/8 inches.
Drives from 3 stage flat belt pulley.
Motor originally mounted somewhere to the rear topside of the lathe.
Here in England its difficult to find many people who even know the
name Southbend.
Can anyone help me please?
How does one post photos relating to this message board?


Is this an 11 inch lathe?

walpick55
 

Serial No. 20617
65 inches from gear cover to end of bed.
60 inch bed length.
From centre chuck to ways measures approx 5 3/8 inches.
Drives from 3 stage flat belt pulley.
Motor originally mounted somewhere to the rear topside of the lathe.
Here in England its difficult to find many people who even know the
name Southbend.
Can anyone help me please?
How does one post photos relating to this message board?


Re: Aloris AXA question

LEW BEST <bcl@...>
 

Thanks Neil

 

I need a couple of the adjustment screws myself, I’ll call them.

 

Lew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [mailto:neilbfield@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:41 PM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Aloris AXA question

 

Lew,

 

I'm surprised you did not get a response from Aloris. I called them a while back, talked with a tech. person on how to remove the adjusting screw and he sent me a 2 free adj. screws and a new catalog. I have the AXA by the way but I don't recognize the holder Scott describes. I suggest call Aloris, 973-772-1201.

 

Neil

----- Original Message -----

From: LEW BEST

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 5:52 PM

Subject: RE: [southbendlathe] Aloris AXA question

 

Hi Scott

 

Sounds like the holders may be KDK holders.  I have a KDK and it adjusts that way.  Just got an Aloris; like it a lot better.  See eBay item 1748614775.  do they look like that?

 

Don’t know much about the AXA; my lathe takes a CXA.  So far I haven’t found ANY info on Aloris (a friend of mine bought a new one; said it had no literature included.  I emailed Aloris (about a week ago) but no reply.

 

Lew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Fuller [mailto:sefuller@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:42 PM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [southbendlathe] Aloris AXA question

 

I recently purchased an Aloris AXA piston style toolpost (used) with a
few toolholders.  I don't believe the holders are Aloris, and they
look a little different than what I have seen in most pictures.
Instead of a thumbwheel and nut for height adjustment, they have a set
screw that goes down through the bottom of the holder.  The problem I
have is that the set screw doesn't hit anything - it comes down
outside the edges of the compound rest.  It looks like there is room
for a 1/4" thick disk between the compound rest and the bottom of the
toolpost - is there supposed to be something like this?  Also, a few
of the holders will lock on one side of the post, but not on the other
side.  Is there an adjustment for how far out the pistons travel, or
some other way to adjust this?  Better yet, is there an online
instruction manual or exploded diagram of the piston style holder?

Thanks,
--
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Milwaukee, WI


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Re: Aloris AXA question

Scott Fuller <sefuller@...>
 

 

Neil wrote:

Lew, I'm surprised you did not get a response from Aloris. I called them a while back, talked with a tech. person on how to remove the adjusting screw and he sent me a 2 free adj. screws and a new catalog. I have the AXA by the way but I don't recognize the holder Scott describes. I suggest call Aloris, 973-772-1201.


I called Aloris this morning as well and talked to a very helpful tech person.  On the piston style toolpost, he said the holes in the center of the pistons are threaded, and if you make a puller you can pull both pistons out approximately 1/8" simultaneously, then remove the lever assembly through the top.  He said both pistons should extend the same amount, and one is probably just worn more than the other.  I will see if I can shim it somehow from the inside.

I looked at the MSC online catalogue, and my holders look very similar to the DTM holders, but they do not have DTM stamped on them.  The DTM holders have a set screw with a recessed allen socket in the top, as mine do, and I am now suspecting that I may not have gotten the thumb wheel and nut for the tops of my holders.  What I can't see in the MSC pictures is if the set screws in the DTM holders go all the way through to the bottom.  Either way, I could make up some thumb wheel screws and buy some nuts and use mine that way.

One of the holders I got is a radius cutter, but I have no idea how it works.  The front portion that holds the cutter pivots 90 degrees, but I don't see any way to control it, other than to secure it in a fixed position.  Anyone have any insight on this?

Thanks,

--
Scott Fuller
Milwaukee, WI


Re: death of an art

Thomas G Brandl
 

Ron,
Ditto!!! I'm still waiting how they will blame the unions for the
fall in the stock market. It seems they blame them for everything else. I
can't say Unions are not without fault, but this stuff has been goning on
for years. Greed, Greed, Greed. I think those Harvard and Yale grades
missed preschool and Kindergarden. They never read 'THe Goose That Laid the
Golden Egg'. Still, The Politicians have some if not more fault in this.
Part of what killed off the NE factories was taxes. You can only bleed them
so much.
Tom
PS: Good to hear your comments back on the board.




Ina Ron Lippard Renaissance Reproductions <renrepro@surfglobal.net> on
08/08/2002 06:49:46 AM

Please respond to southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com

To: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
cc:
Subject: [southbendlathe] death of an art



I never thought I would see the day when Bridgeport would fall. Living
in a state that use to
be known for its machine tool industry, (NH) this is another nail in the
craftsmen's coffin.
I make no apologies for being pro-American pro-job. The machine shop is
the forge no
civilization can do without. Since we moved the bean-counters into the
corner office the shop has been sent to the coroners. The heart and arsenal
of demockracy is now a balance-sheet.
It is printed on toilet paper by liars who can figure.
yeah I'm that pissed,Ron



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Re: first southbend, now bridgeport

tom jelly <jelkil@...>
 

I'll start selling short immediately, thanks for the tip!

Tom


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Yahoo?


death of an art

Ina Ron Lippard Renaissance Reproductions <renrepro@...>
 

I never thought I would see the day when Bridgeport would fall. Living in a state that use to
be known for its machine tool industry, (NH) this is another nail in the craftsmen's coffin.
I make no apologies for being pro-American pro-job. The machine shop is the forge no
civilization can do without. Since we moved the bean-counters into the corner office the shop has been sent to the coroners. The heart and arsenal of demockracy is now a balance-sheet.
It is printed on toilet paper by liars who can figure.
yeah I'm that pissed,Ron


Re: death of an art

ppump11578@...
 

From England one time workshop of the world may I just say welcome to the
club.

Phil Pumphrey / ppump11578@aol.com


Re: #' Bed Mod A lead Screw #'

gorvil
 

Hey Clint,

I have one for a 3.5 footer that you can cut down. I would offer to
cut it off myself but the MRI shows arthritis, bone spurs, a torn
tendon and a bone cyst in my hack saw shoulder. Anybody got a bandsaw
for sale?

Glen Reeser

--- In southbendlathe@y..., "Clint D" <driggars@e...> wrote:
I am looking for a Mod A 9" lead screw for a 3' bed, any one got
one?
C


Re: spindle play and oilers

Jerry Salisbury <jsalsbry@...>
 

Tom, I would also appreciate the set-up information. I'm currently
reassembling a 1928 16" SB. Needless to say, I can use all the help and
information I can get. Thanks!

Jerry Salisbury

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To: <southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 3:42 PM
Subject: [southbendlathe] re: spindle play and oilers


Thanks to Rose at LeBlond, I got a spec sheet on setting up the
spindle and bearings.

I would scan it and e-mail to anyone interested if the fax was a
little better.

On second thought I will retype it(4 pages) and e-mail it to any
interested party(s).

by the way the clearance for the bronze bearings is anything
under .0015", with a 75lb lifton the spindle.

The one's with cast iron bearings is under .001" with the same lift.

The adjustment is done using SB laminated shim. (Which I am still
trying to get more information on.


The oilers are cylinders with a spring pressing them against the
spindle. I would recommend geting the correct parts: as follows

South Bend Part # Capillary Oil Assembly {P/N) AS373KH2

Get this from LeBlond )888-532-5663)

I have more info regarding the proper setup

Please send me an e-mail if I may be of any assistance

Regards
Tom Delaney



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Re: Aloris AXA question

Neil <neilbfield@...>
 

Lew,
 
I'm surprised you did not get a response from Aloris. I called them a while back, talked with a tech. person on how to remove the adjusting screw and he sent me a 2 free adj. screws and a new catalog. I have the AXA by the way but I don't recognize the holder Scott describes. I suggest call Aloris, 973-772-1201.
 
Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: LEW BEST
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: [southbendlathe] Aloris AXA question

Hi Scott

 

Sounds like the holders may be KDK holders.  I have a KDK and it adjusts that way.  Just got an Aloris; like it a lot better.  See eBay item 1748614775.  do they look like that?

 

Don’t know much about the AXA; my lathe takes a CXA.  So far I haven’t found ANY info on Aloris (a friend of mine bought a new one; said it had no literature included.  I emailed Aloris (about a week ago) but no reply.

 

Lew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Fuller [mailto:sefuller@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:42 PM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [southbendlathe] Aloris AXA question

 

I recently purchased an Aloris AXA piston style toolpost (used) with a
few toolholders.  I don't believe the holders are Aloris, and they
look a little different than what I have seen in most pictures.
Instead of a thumbwheel and nut for height adjustment, they have a set
screw that goes down through the bottom of the holder.  The problem I
have is that the set screw doesn't hit anything - it comes down
outside the edges of the compound rest.  It looks like there is room
for a 1/4" thick disk between the compound rest and the bottom of the
toolpost - is there supposed to be something like this?  Also, a few
of the holders will lock on one side of the post, but not on the other
side.  Is there an adjustment for how far out the pistons travel, or
some other way to adjust this?  Better yet, is there an online
instruction manual or exploded diagram of the piston style holder?

Thanks,
--
Scott Fuller
Milwaukee, WI


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Re: Aloris AXA question

Scott Fuller <sefuller@...>
 

LEW BEST wrote:
Well, can�t say I�ve ever seen one like that.I�ll bet someone will have seen one, though.


That's what I'm kind of hoping!
--
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Milwaukee, WI
 


Re: Aloris AXA question

LEW BEST <bcl@...>
 

Well, can’t say I’ve ever seen one like that.  I’ll bet someone will have seen one, though.

 

Lew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Fuller [mailto:sefuller@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:39 PM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Aloris AXA question

 

LEW BEST wrote:

Hi Scott

Sounds like the holders may be KDK holders.I have a KDK and it adjusts that way. Just got an Aloris; like it a lot better.See eBay item 1748614775.do they look like that?

Don’t know much about the AXA; my lathe takes a CXA.So far I haven’t found ANY info on Aloris (a friend of mine bought a new one; said it had no literature included.I emailed Aloris (about a week ago) but no reply.


No, they don't look like that.  They fit on the Aloris toolpost just fine, it's just that there is nothing to catch the adjusting screw underneath.   They sound like what Frank describes - the setscrew goes in from the top, about centered on the V.  The toolpost itself has the Aloris plate on it, the holders just have numbers, no makers ID that I can determine.

--
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Milwaukee, WI
 


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Re: Aloris AXA question

Scott Fuller <sefuller@...>
 

LEW BEST wrote:
Hi Scott

Sounds like the holders may be KDK holders.I have a KDK and it adjusts that way. Just got an Aloris; like it a lot better.See eBay item 1748614775.do they look like that?

Don�t know much about the AXA; my lathe takes a CXA.So far I haven�t found ANY info on Aloris (a friend of mine bought a new one; said it had no literature included.I emailed Aloris (about a week ago) but no reply.


No, they don't look like that.  They fit on the Aloris toolpost just fine, it's just that there is nothing to catch the adjusting screw underneath.   They sound like what Frank describes - the setscrew goes in from the top, about centered on the V.  The toolpost itself has the Aloris plate on it, the holders just have numbers, no makers ID that I can determine.

--
Scott Fuller
Milwaukee, WI
 


Re: Aloris AXA question

frankkerfoot
 

Scott (and Lew)
I have a FIMS toolholder, and they also adjust with a setscrew, so that is another possibility. On my FIMS the setscrew goes in the top of the holder at about the middle of the inside of the V, and picks up a post which protrudes from the tool post. If yours doesn't look like the Ebay picture of the KDK Jim pointed to they could be FIMS. I don't have a picture handy unfortunately.
Frank Kerfoot

Sounds like the holders may be KDK holders.  I have a KDK and it adjusts that way.  Just got an Aloris; like it a lot better.  See eBay item 1748614775.  do they look like that?

 

Don’t know much about the AXA; my lathe takes a CXA.  So far I haven’t found ANY info on Aloris (a friend of mine bought a new one; said it had no literature included.  I emailed Aloris (about a week ago) but no reply.

 

Lew

 

I recently purchased an Aloris AXA piston style toolpost (used) with a
few toolholders.  I don't believe the holders are Aloris, and they
look a little different than what I have seen in most pictures.
Instead of a thumbwheel and nut for height adjustment, they have a set
screw that goes down through the bottom of the holder. 


Re: first southbend, now bridgeport

James Early <j.w.early@...>
 

Wishful thinking?
JWE
Long Beach, CA

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