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Re: Lathe Work Bench

lrisen@...
 

my 16/24 sits on leveling screws

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Smith <joe@jesinc.net>
Date: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:45 pm
Subject: RE: [southbendlathe] Re: Lathe Work Bench

Rich, My hvy 10 cabinet sets on leveling screws from the factory.
I
have never noticed any problem with vibration. I have my 13x40
sittingon outriggers with leveling bolts. Not all 4 sides are
supported by the
screws. It has been very stable. Haven't touched the level in 2
yearsand it still cuts a cylinder without a taper.



Should I change my setup?.







________________________________

From: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RichD
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:31 PM
To: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Lathe Work Bench



Bubba
my complaint has nothing to do with loosening. The fact that a LARGE
mass of steel table and machine tool reacting to dynamic cutting
forcescannot stay still all by itself. The floor is there to help
resist those
forces. By decoupling the whole thing with 1/2-13 threaded rods
(with a
root diameter of .400", by the way) leaves the mass to react as it
will.I got tired of my mill dancing around-in place-every time I
used a 2
flute
cutter for moderate to heavy cuts. A good machine tool deserves
something
better than pins or needles to stand on.
Nuff said.
RichD

Bubba wrote:

Paula,
If I might jump in here for a second. I have to agree with Rich. I
used something similar to what you are proposing on my
mill/drill and
I have to adjust all the time as normal vibration loosens things up
(yes, they are lock nutted), but still after a few days, the darn
things work loose and I have to adjust again.

Bubba

At 03:20 PM 10/14/2005, you wrote:
RichD <cmsteam@s...> wrote:

Paula,
avoid the adjustable screw feet. Always makes a wiggly machine
stand.
Why use 2" tube then set on screws???
Weld 3.5" squares of 1/4 plate on the bottoms. SOLID
footing. Shim
if you
have to on an uneven floor.

Rich,

For the sake of brevity, I was not very clear on how this would be
done. A 2 x 2 x 1/2" thick steel plate, with a 1/2-13 tapped hole
in its center, would be welded to the bottom of each square tube
leg. The threaded hole will be for a "swivel leveling mount". These
mounts are routinely used as machine feet in industrial
applications. The ones I will use have a 2" diameter steel pad,
with> >a 1/2-13 threaded stud which connects to the pad with a
ball &
socket joint. They will thus adapt to uneven surfaces, and will
allow precise machine leveling. Thanks for your comments.

Paula

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Re: Lathe Work Bench

Joe Smith
 

Rich,  My hvy 10 cabinet sets on leveling screws from the factory.  I have never noticed any problem with vibration.  I have my 13x40 sitting on outriggers with leveling bolts.  Not all 4 sides are supported by the screws.  It has been very stable.  Haven’t touched the level in 2 years and it still cuts a cylinder without a taper.

 

Should I change my setup?.

 

 

 


From: southbendlathe@... [mailto:southbendlathe@...] On Behalf Of RichD
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:31 PM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Lathe Work Bench

 

Bubba
my complaint has nothing to do with loosening. The fact that a LARGE
mass of steel table and machine tool reacting to dynamic cutting forces
cannot stay still all by itself. The floor is there to help resist those
forces. By decoupling the whole thing with 1/2-13 threaded rods (with a
root diameter of .400", by the way) leaves the mass to react as it will.
I got tired of my mill dancing around-in place-every time I used a 2 flute
cutter for moderate to heavy cuts. A good machine tool deserves something
better than pins or needles to stand on.
Nuff said.
RichD

Bubba wrote:
>
> Paula,
> If I might jump in here for a second. I have to agree with Rich. I
> used something similar to what you are proposing on my mill/drill and
> I have to adjust all the time as normal vibration loosens things up
> (yes, they are lock nutted), but still after a few days, the darn
> things work loose and I have to adjust again.
>
> Bubba
>
> At 03:20 PM 10/14/2005, you wrote:
> >RichD wrote:
> > >
> > > Paula,
> > > avoid the adjustable screw feet. Always makes a wiggly machine
> >stand.
> > > Why use 2" tube then set on screws???
> > > Weld 3.5" squares of 1/4 plate on the bottoms. SOLID footing. Shim
> >if you
> > > have to on an uneven floor.
> >
> >
> >Rich,
> >
> >For the sake of brevity, I was not very clear on how this would be
> >done.  A 2 x 2 x 1/2" thick steel plate, with a 1/2-13 tapped hole
> >in its center, would be welded to the bottom of each square tube
> >leg. The threaded hole will be for a "swivel leveling mount". These
> >mounts are routinely used as machine feet in industrial
> >applications. The ones I will use have a 2" diameter steel pad, with
> >a 1/2-13 threaded stud which connects to the pad with a ball &
> >socket joint. They will thus adapt to uneven surfaces, and will
> >allow precise machine leveling. Thanks for your comments.
> >
> >Paula
>


Re: Lathe Work Bench

RichD <cmsteam@...>
 

Bubba
my complaint has nothing to do with loosening. The fact that a LARGE
mass of steel table and machine tool reacting to dynamic cutting forces
cannot stay still all by itself. The floor is there to help resist those
forces. By decoupling the whole thing with 1/2-13 threaded rods (with a
root diameter of .400", by the way) leaves the mass to react as it will.
I got tired of my mill dancing around-in place-every time I used a 2 flute
cutter for moderate to heavy cuts. A good machine tool deserves something
better than pins or needles to stand on.
Nuff said.
RichD

Bubba wrote:


Paula,
If I might jump in here for a second. I have to agree with Rich. I
used something similar to what you are proposing on my mill/drill and
I have to adjust all the time as normal vibration loosens things up
(yes, they are lock nutted), but still after a few days, the darn
things work loose and I have to adjust again.

Bubba

At 03:20 PM 10/14/2005, you wrote:
RichD <cmsteam@s...> wrote:

Paula,
avoid the adjustable screw feet. Always makes a wiggly machine
stand.
Why use 2" tube then set on screws???
Weld 3.5" squares of 1/4 plate on the bottoms. SOLID footing. Shim
if you
have to on an uneven floor.

Rich,

For the sake of brevity, I was not very clear on how this would be
done. A 2 x 2 x 1/2" thick steel plate, with a 1/2-13 tapped hole
in its center, would be welded to the bottom of each square tube
leg. The threaded hole will be for a "swivel leveling mount". These
mounts are routinely used as machine feet in industrial
applications. The ones I will use have a 2" diameter steel pad, with
a 1/2-13 threaded stud which connects to the pad with a ball &
socket joint. They will thus adapt to uneven surfaces, and will
allow precise machine leveling. Thanks for your comments.

Paula


Re: Teflon Grease ?

Mosby West
 

I just bought a 10k.  The previous owner had changed the oil cups for the spindle to zerk fittings.  Somewhere I read that Southbend had changed their recommendation to lube the spindle with teflon grease.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a tube of grease which will fit into a grease gun and a source for it?
Mosby
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: regancha
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:13 PM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: Teflon Grease ?

--- In southbendlathe@..., "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@y...>
wrote:
>
> I'm trying to download the army manual, but the machine is in need of
> it's annual greasing.
>
> Any suggestions on what to use for grease on the spindle and back gear ?
>
> Dave
>

Hi Dave,

  I had problems finding the right stuff too, but found that Super
Lube do a PTFE grease in a tube that does the job nicely. You'll need
a plastic syringe, which your local fiberglass stockist should be able
to sell you for a few tens of cents, to inject it into the spindle and
back gear lubrication holes.

All the best,

Mark D-B (Heavy 10 shipped to the UK during WWII)




Re: Teflon Grease ?

regancha <mdbhome@...>
 

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@y...>
wrote:

I'm trying to download the army manual, but the machine is in need of
it's annual greasing.

Any suggestions on what to use for grease on the spindle and back gear ?

Dave
Hi Dave,

I had problems finding the right stuff too, but found that Super
Lube do a PTFE grease in a tube that does the job nicely. You'll need
a plastic syringe, which your local fiberglass stockist should be able
to sell you for a few tens of cents, to inject it into the spindle and
back gear lubrication holes.

All the best,

Mark D-B (Heavy 10 shipped to the UK during WWII)


Re: Lathe Work Bench

RichD <cmsteam@...>
 

Paula,
my comment stands. I fully understand. I've used them. Not now.
The screws are in no way a contributing to the rigidity. The screws
flex/bend and rotate (not unscrew rotate) in the male thread when the
machine is operating with unbalanced forces. Why build a battleship
bench then stand it on stork feet?
Do it like us oldtimers. Shimmed and bolted. SOLID.
Just because the fancy adjustable mounts are sold, don't be unconcerened
if they will work or not.
Be happy.
RichD, Atlanta


aspensulphate wrote:


RichD <cmsteam@s...> wrote:

Paula,
avoid the adjustable screw feet. Always makes a wiggly machine
stand.
Why use 2" tube then set on screws???
Weld 3.5" squares of 1/4 plate on the bottoms. SOLID footing. Shim
if you
have to on an uneven floor.
Rich,

For the sake of brevity, I was not very clear on how this would be
done. A 2 x 2 x 1/2" thick steel plate, with a 1/2-13 tapped hole
in its center, would be welded to the bottom of each square tube
leg. The threaded hole will be for a "swivel leveling mount". These
mounts are routinely used as machine feet in industrial
applications. The ones I will use have a 2" diameter steel pad, with
a 1/2-13 threaded stud which connects to the pad with a ball &
socket joint. They will thus adapt to uneven surfaces, and will
allow precise machine leveling. Thanks for your comments.

Paula


Re: Cheap Lathe - safety

gorvil
 

The dental hygenist at my last dentist's office told me she had caught
someone's mustache in the tooth polishing apparatus she was using on
me. I go to another dentist now.

Ron,

Is this 9" A an undedrive or a horizontal drive unit? I have a right
hand guard for a HD lathe. I'm in Palatine in the phone book. Or
check Pete Swelzen in Mundelein (Libertyville?).

Glen Reeser


Re: Lathe Work Bench

BOB WRIGHT
 

Mine is set on 3/4" 4140 all thread bolts and double nutted. I ended
up bolting it down with Hilti cement bolts also just to get the
vibration out of it...Bob


where to get half nuts for 16/24?

avidsketcher
 

Hi,

I am in an urgent need to get some half nuts for a 16/24 lathe with a
1 1/8" dia lead screw, 6 tpi. Can anyone point me the right direction?
I wanted to get used ones or cheaper ones than what LeBlonde is asking
for new ones - $433.

Thanks,

Matt


Re: Lathe Work Bench

Art Eckstein <a_eckstein@...>
 

Paula,
If I might jump in here for a second. I have to agree with Rich. I used something similar to what you are proposing on my mill/drill and I have to adjust all the time as normal vibration loosens things up (yes, they are lock nutted), but still after a few days, the darn things work loose and I have to adjust again.

Bubba

At 03:20 PM 10/14/2005, you wrote:
RichD <cmsteam@s...> wrote:

Paula,
avoid the adjustable screw feet. Always makes a wiggly machine
stand.
Why use 2" tube then set on screws???
Weld 3.5" squares of 1/4 plate on the bottoms. SOLID footing. Shim
if you
have to on an uneven floor.

Rich,

For the sake of brevity, I was not very clear on how this would be
done. A 2 x 2 x 1/2" thick steel plate, with a 1/2-13 tapped hole
in its center, would be welded to the bottom of each square tube
leg. The threaded hole will be for a "swivel leveling mount". These
mounts are routinely used as machine feet in industrial
applications. The ones I will use have a 2" diameter steel pad, with
a 1/2-13 threaded stud which connects to the pad with a ball &
socket joint. They will thus adapt to uneven surfaces, and will
allow precise machine leveling. Thanks for your comments.

Paula


Re: Lathe Work Bench

aspensulphate
 

RichD <cmsteam@s...> wrote:

Paula,
avoid the adjustable screw feet. Always makes a wiggly machine
stand.
Why use 2" tube then set on screws???
Weld 3.5" squares of 1/4 plate on the bottoms. SOLID footing. Shim
if you
have to on an uneven floor.

Rich,

For the sake of brevity, I was not very clear on how this would be
done. A 2 x 2 x 1/2" thick steel plate, with a 1/2-13 tapped hole
in its center, would be welded to the bottom of each square tube
leg. The threaded hole will be for a "swivel leveling mount". These
mounts are routinely used as machine feet in industrial
applications. The ones I will use have a 2" diameter steel pad, with
a 1/2-13 threaded stud which connects to the pad with a ball &
socket joint. They will thus adapt to uneven surfaces, and will
allow precise machine leveling. Thanks for your comments.

Paula


Tool Post size, Heavy 10

bsit89 <bsit89@...>
 

Hi all,

I have a Heavy 10, 1963, missing the tool post on the compound. I've
looked in the file section at the tooling dimensions, and can come up
with the original style tool post, but I'm confused on which size tool
holders fit it. Which holders, #1 or #2 are supposed to fit this Heavy
10? There are a lot of Williams holders out there, but not sure which.

Thanks,
Billy


Re: Lathe Work Bench

Alan J. Richer <mrchurchill109@...>
 

--- RichD <cmsteam@speedfactory.net> wrote:

Alan,
you're right. No where to be found. Even in the 10K
groups.
There are 2 pics. A letter and the old blue print.
"woodbench-A"
and "woodbench-B".
I will send them to you back channel.
Thank you! Much, much appreciated.

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Re: Lathe Work Bench

RichD <cmsteam@...>
 

Alan,
you're right. No where to be found. Even in the 10K groups.
There are 2 pics. A letter and the old blue print. "woodbench-A"
and "woodbench-B".
I will send them to you back channel.
RichD

"Alan J. Richer" wrote:


--- RichD <cmsteam@speedfactory.net> wrote:

The original SBL wood bench plans are in the files last I
looked.
Do tell - didn't see them in there when I looked...pointer,
please?

Alan

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Re: Cheap Lathe

Thomas Tallant <thomas8482002@...>
 

All this talk about hair getting  caughtmade me rember an aunt of mine when I was about 7 or8 got her hair in an old wringer washing machine. I thought she had a very funny hair cut. Thay had to cut it to get her out she also had a big bruse on her for head. I had forgotten about it not sofunny now.

BOB & CINDY WRIGHT wrote:
I saw a lady get her hair caught in a Bullard vertical lathe, not a
pretty site...Bob
--- In southbendlathe@..., "hoffmeyer"
wrote:
>
> It is good to post the horror stories to remind allof us to be
> careful and not complacent.  The lady getting her hair caught...wow
> that must have been awful.
> Be careful out there.
> Best wishes to all.
> Eric
> --- In southbendlathe@..., Thomas Tallant
> wrote:
> >
> > I was working in a shop one time and an operater insisted on
> wereing a tie he was told how bad an idea it was but he wonted to
> look good for the boss. One day he was runing the lathe in back
gear
> his tie sliped out of his waste band got in the work and wound him
> down to were he could not reach the switch. He was yelling his head
> off and just befor it killed him the man next to him cut the tie
and
> never said a word to him. He never wore a tie agin.  Tom
> >
> > ALAN WHEATLEY wrote:Using a lathe without
a
> cover or guard isn't a big issue for an experienced worker -- most
of
> my machines were built before today's safety attitudes and guards
> became normal, and that's how most of them are still.
> > 
> > But if you (or anyone else using the lathe) is not so
experienced,
> if you don't have basic safety instincts and good advice, if you
wear
> long hair or loose clothing, or if there are children around, then
> it's a good idea to follow one of the the last few days'
suggestions
> about making up a guard for the exposed drive belt.
> > 
> > Hair and clothing have got trapped by belts, chucks, etc, when
> people move in close to get a better look at work in progress.
> > 
> > It happened a long time ago to one of my mother's friends. She
was
> proud of her hair and didn't want to wear the safety cap the
company
> provided. She got away with it for a while but was scalped when the
> unguarded spindle or belt of a drilling machine took out her hair
and
> a lot of flesh and face. Died a couple of days later.
> > 
> > A missing guard doesn't convert a good machine into a boat
anchor.
> Use it and be proud of it, but remember that unguarded machinery
can
> bite.
> > 
> > Alan
> >
> > John Dammeyer wrote:
> > Or if you want to get really fancy,  Cover the cone with plastic
> film, and then spray foam.  Carve, sand and finish the foam to a
> pleasing shape.  Then use Epoxy resin and fiberglass mat and make
up
> a replacement that looks like it's been cast.  Remove, sand the
> underside and glue in the bits to make the hinges.  Add some more
> resin and glass and sand it.
> > 
> > Now you have something that you can either use as is or use as a
> pattern to make one from cast aluminium.
> > 
> > John Dammeyer
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
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> [mailto:southbendlathe@...] On Behalf Of BOB & CINDY
> WRIGHT
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:00 PM
> > To: southbendlathe@...
> > Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: Cheap Lathe
> >
> >
> > By all means make a temp one from sheetmetal or small squared
wire
> > screen...Bob
> > --- In southbendlathe@..., "dphobbies"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 9A that is missing a cone cover.  I haven't been able
to
> > > locate one so it is just a big boat anchor to me.  I'm in the
> > Chicago
> > > area (near O Hare airport).  I suppose I should part it out
since
> > > there are no spare cone covers out there anyway and it would be
> > > incredibly unsafe to operate without one.
> > >
> > > Offers?  Ideas?
> > >
> > > Ron Sebastian
> > > Des Plaines, IL
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Cheap Lathe

bdmail <bdmail@...>
 

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "BOB & CINDY WRIGHT"
<aametalmaster@y...> wrote:

I saw a lady get her hair caught in a Bullard vertical lathe, not a
pretty site...Bob
I always called them verticle boring machines, even though they ran
like a verticle lathe.

Biggest one I had run was 172 inches ??? it ran soooooo slooooo that
once I got on the table with a broom and swept the chips as I was
cutting parts.

Talk about an OSHA violation !

Used to make 12 foot dia condenser ends for submarines.

I hated second shift and the forced slow pace of the union workers at
that plant.

My dad is a union worker. It is a shame that certain unions give the others
a bad name, in my opinion, and affect the possible speed of production.



Bernie




I got my nights work quota done then slept for half the shift.

Dave







--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "hoffmeyer" <hmshop@h...>
wrote:

It is good to post the horror stories to remind allof us to be
careful and not complacent. The lady getting her hair caught...wow
that must have been awful.
Be careful out there.
Best wishes to all.
Eric
--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Tallant
<thomas8482002@y...> wrote:

I was working in a shop one time and an operater insisted on
wereing a tie he was told how bad an idea it was but he wonted to
look good for the boss. One day he was runing the lathe in back
gear
his tie sliped out of his waste band got in the work and wound him
down to were he could not reach the switch. He was yelling his head
off and just befor it killed him the man next to him cut the tie
and
never said a word to him. He never wore a tie agin. Tom

ALAN WHEATLEY <alan.wheatley10@b...> wrote:Using a lathe without
a
cover or guard isn't a big issue for an experienced worker -- most
of
my machines were built before today's safety attitudes and guards
became normal, and that's how most of them are still.

But if you (or anyone else using the lathe) is not so
experienced,
if you don't have basic safety instincts and good advice, if you
wear
long hair or loose clothing, or if there are children around, then
it's a good idea to follow one of the the last few days'
suggestions
about making up a guard for the exposed drive belt.

Hair and clothing have got trapped by belts, chucks, etc, when
people move in close to get a better look at work in progress.

It happened a long time ago to one of my mother's friends. She
was
proud of her hair and didn't want to wear the safety cap the
company
provided. She got away with it for a while but was scalped when the
unguarded spindle or belt of a drilling machine took out her hair
and
a lot of flesh and face. Died a couple of days later.

A missing guard doesn't convert a good machine into a boat
anchor.
Use it and be proud of it, but remember that unguarded machinery
can
bite.

Alan

John Dammeyer <johnd@a...> wrote:
Or if you want to get really fancy, Cover the cone with plastic
film, and then spray foam. Carve, sand and finish the foam to a
pleasing shape. Then use Epoxy resin and fiberglass mat and make
up
a replacement that looks like it's been cast. Remove, sand the
underside and glue in the bits to make the hinges. Add some more
resin and glass and sand it.

Now you have something that you can either use as is or use as a
pattern to make one from cast aluminium.

John Dammeyer




Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available.
http://www.autoartisans.com/products
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Ph. 1 250 544 4950


-----Original Message-----
From: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BOB & CINDY
WRIGHT
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:00 PM
To: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: Cheap Lathe


By all means make a temp one from sheetmetal or small squared
wire
screen...Bob
--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "dphobbies"
<dphobbies@e...>
wrote:

I have a 9A that is missing a cone cover. I haven't been able
to
locate one so it is just a big boat anchor to me. I'm in the
Chicago
area (near O Hare airport). I suppose I should part it out
since
there are no spare cone covers out there anyway and it would be
incredibly unsafe to operate without one.

Offers? Ideas?

Ron Sebastian
Des Plaines, IL





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Re: Pipe Threads

Thomas G Brandl
 

You might offset the tailstock to get the proper taper. I've never done
pipe threads this way. I have only done this on longer parts like gun
barrels. On pipe threads larger than 1/2 and I have a die for it. I will
turn the taper with the compound and straight thread the piece. Then use
the die to cut/form the taper of the pipe thread. This take a lot less
force or power to cut the taper alone than the taper and threads. Uusually
I can do 3/4 pipe by hand. With cutting the threads straight first, I've
finished up 1-1/2 and maybe larger pipe threads.
Tom


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I'm a newbie to this group and also to metal working.  I've been a
woodworker for about 30 years and always wanted a metal lathe.  Your
emails have been a great resource for information.  I just bought a 10k on
eBay a few months ago and have been having fun playing with it.  Been
buying some tooling and accessories and stuff.  I'm wondering if it is
possible to cut pipe threads on a lathe without a taper attachment?

Any help is appreciated.
Mosby


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Re: Cheap Lathe

Dave Mucha
 

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "BOB & CINDY WRIGHT"
<aametalmaster@y...> wrote:

I saw a lady get her hair caught in a Bullard vertical lathe, not a
pretty site...Bob
I always called them verticle boring machines, even though they ran
like a verticle lathe.

Biggest one I had run was 172 inches ??? it ran soooooo slooooo that
once I got on the table with a broom and swept the chips as I was
cutting parts.

Talk about an OSHA violation !

Used to make 12 foot dia condenser ends for submarines.

I hated second shift and the forced slow pace of the union workers at
that plant.

I got my nights work quota done then slept for half the shift.

Dave







--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "hoffmeyer" <hmshop@h...>
wrote:

It is good to post the horror stories to remind allof us to be
careful and not complacent. The lady getting her hair caught...wow
that must have been awful.
Be careful out there.
Best wishes to all.
Eric
--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Tallant
<thomas8482002@y...> wrote:

I was working in a shop one time and an operater insisted on
wereing a tie he was told how bad an idea it was but he wonted to
look good for the boss. One day he was runing the lathe in back
gear
his tie sliped out of his waste band got in the work and wound him
down to were he could not reach the switch. He was yelling his head
off and just befor it killed him the man next to him cut the tie
and
never said a word to him. He never wore a tie agin. Tom

ALAN WHEATLEY <alan.wheatley10@b...> wrote:Using a lathe without
a
cover or guard isn't a big issue for an experienced worker -- most
of
my machines were built before today's safety attitudes and guards
became normal, and that's how most of them are still.

But if you (or anyone else using the lathe) is not so
experienced,
if you don't have basic safety instincts and good advice, if you
wear
long hair or loose clothing, or if there are children around, then
it's a good idea to follow one of the the last few days'
suggestions
about making up a guard for the exposed drive belt.

Hair and clothing have got trapped by belts, chucks, etc, when
people move in close to get a better look at work in progress.

It happened a long time ago to one of my mother's friends. She
was
proud of her hair and didn't want to wear the safety cap the
company
provided. She got away with it for a while but was scalped when the
unguarded spindle or belt of a drilling machine took out her hair
and
a lot of flesh and face. Died a couple of days later.

A missing guard doesn't convert a good machine into a boat
anchor.
Use it and be proud of it, but remember that unguarded machinery
can
bite.

Alan

John Dammeyer <johnd@a...> wrote:
Or if you want to get really fancy, Cover the cone with plastic
film, and then spray foam. Carve, sand and finish the foam to a
pleasing shape. Then use Epoxy resin and fiberglass mat and make
up
a replacement that looks like it's been cast. Remove, sand the
underside and glue in the bits to make the hinges. Add some more
resin and glass and sand it.

Now you have something that you can either use as is or use as a
pattern to make one from cast aluminium.

John Dammeyer




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By all means make a temp one from sheetmetal or small squared
wire
screen...Bob
--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "dphobbies"
<dphobbies@e...>
wrote:

I have a 9A that is missing a cone cover. I haven't been able
to
locate one so it is just a big boat anchor to me. I'm in the
Chicago
area (near O Hare airport). I suppose I should part it out
since
there are no spare cone covers out there anyway and it would be
incredibly unsafe to operate without one.

Offers? Ideas?

Ron Sebastian
Des Plaines, IL





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Re: Carriage nut for 1923 11". . . .

Thomas G Brandl
 

There is an article on line about restoring the cross slide lead screw. The
guy uses ACME thread rod from McMasters and a nut to match. The article
might be on the SB board links, I haven't looked. YOu might adapt it to
your situation.
Tom


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Hi,

I'm restoring a 1923 11" South Bend Lathe, need to
find a carriage nut to replace a very worn one. I've
inquired at LeBlond.

I bought this lathe at a hardware store in the Mexican
neighborhood where I live in Chicago--it was literally
leaning up against the doorpost, and I inquired about
it. The owner of the store had worked as a machinist
in Mexico and then here in the States. I had started
but never finished the Gingery projects years before.


Preliminary runs show ugly chatter pattern at low
RPM--I realize that the lathe needs a lot of work!
But the circumstance of my first encounter seems to
indicate that the work will fall to me. Thanks for
any advice offered.

Allan L
in Chicago
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Re: Cheap Lathe

BOB WRIGHT
 

I saw a lady get her hair caught in a Bullard vertical lathe, not a
pretty site...Bob
--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "hoffmeyer" <hmshop@h...>
wrote:

It is good to post the horror stories to remind allof us to be
careful and not complacent. The lady getting her hair caught...wow
that must have been awful.
Be careful out there.
Best wishes to all.
Eric
--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Tallant
<thomas8482002@y...> wrote:

I was working in a shop one time and an operater insisted on
wereing a tie he was told how bad an idea it was but he wonted to
look good for the boss. One day he was runing the lathe in back
gear
his tie sliped out of his waste band got in the work and wound him
down to were he could not reach the switch. He was yelling his head
off and just befor it killed him the man next to him cut the tie
and
never said a word to him. He never wore a tie agin. Tom

ALAN WHEATLEY <alan.wheatley10@b...> wrote:Using a lathe without
a
cover or guard isn't a big issue for an experienced worker -- most
of
my machines were built before today's safety attitudes and guards
became normal, and that's how most of them are still.

But if you (or anyone else using the lathe) is not so
experienced,
if you don't have basic safety instincts and good advice, if you
wear
long hair or loose clothing, or if there are children around, then
it's a good idea to follow one of the the last few days'
suggestions
about making up a guard for the exposed drive belt.

Hair and clothing have got trapped by belts, chucks, etc, when
people move in close to get a better look at work in progress.

It happened a long time ago to one of my mother's friends. She
was
proud of her hair and didn't want to wear the safety cap the
company
provided. She got away with it for a while but was scalped when the
unguarded spindle or belt of a drilling machine took out her hair
and
a lot of flesh and face. Died a couple of days later.

A missing guard doesn't convert a good machine into a boat
anchor.
Use it and be proud of it, but remember that unguarded machinery
can
bite.

Alan

John Dammeyer <johnd@a...> wrote:
Or if you want to get really fancy, Cover the cone with plastic
film, and then spray foam. Carve, sand and finish the foam to a
pleasing shape. Then use Epoxy resin and fiberglass mat and make
up
a replacement that looks like it's been cast. Remove, sand the
underside and glue in the bits to make the hinges. Add some more
resin and glass and sand it.

Now you have something that you can either use as is or use as a
pattern to make one from cast aluminium.

John Dammeyer




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[mailto:southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BOB & CINDY
WRIGHT
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:00 PM
To: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: Cheap Lathe


By all means make a temp one from sheetmetal or small squared
wire
screen...Bob
--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "dphobbies"
<dphobbies@e...>
wrote:

I have a 9A that is missing a cone cover. I haven't been able
to
locate one so it is just a big boat anchor to me. I'm in the
Chicago
area (near O Hare airport). I suppose I should part it out
since
there are no spare cone covers out there anyway and it would be
incredibly unsafe to operate without one.

Offers? Ideas?

Ron Sebastian
Des Plaines, IL





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