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OT- Any new england folks on the list going to the Amherst flea market Sunday?

Jeff Beck
 

Is anyone going to Amherst Sunday? I will have a few tables setup with
misc tools, etc. If you go, stop by and introduce yourself. Always nice
to put faces to people.
Jeff


Re: Removing a 9" spindle

gorvil
 

Set the tailstock with a dead center in it in front of the spindle
to catch it as it comes out. It will save a few steps retrieving it
as it flies across the shop. You can use the tailstock quill to
convince it to go back where it came from when it comes to that, too.


Glen Reeser

-- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "jonkzak" <jonkzak@e...> wrote:
Scott,

I agree with Bob. I just removed mine a few weeks back.
I took a scrap piece of soft wood (pine) and used a 3lb hammer and
with
a few sharp whacks the spindle was driven past the bull gear and
the
rest pulled out by hand. Upon re-installing the spindle you will
need
to 'whack' it back into place. Be careful that you don't relocate
the
headstock on the lathe bed with all the `whacking'. This could
cause
the gearing to not mesh properly. No big deal just loosen the
headstock mounting bolts reposition and retighten the bolts. I
took
the time to clean the bed ways and headstock at this time so it
was use
full, but not expected.

Regards,

JJ


--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Sinclair"
<scott@u...>
wrote:
I'm trying to get the spindle out of the headstock on a Hercus
9"
Model A (South Bend clone) and for the life of me can't move the
bull
gear along the spindle.

I've seen some posts that say you simply hit the spindle toward
the
tailstock to dislodge it from the bull gear (I already have the
V-
cone
pulley spinning freely and moving along the spidle as much as it
can)
and have removed the collar at the gearbox end of shaft, but I'm
reluctant to simply start bashing the thing with a hammer and
lump of
wood.

Can anyone let me in on the secret of how this is done?

Any advice appreciated...

Scott - Australia.


Re: Motor frame size

Dave Mucha
 

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "dconway00" <dconway00@s...> wrote:
Have taken possession of a heavy 10 and in the process of cleaning
etc. before putting into service. The motor question still remains to
be resolved but am making some progress.

The lathe came with a Delco E2 motor - 1 hp, 460V, 3 phase with a 182
frame. As I have not found any diagram for rewiring to 230/220 I am
contemplating replacing the motor but I am finding limited (read
expensive) choices for this"large" a frame. I currently have the
cabinet up side down for cleaning - would not want to replace a motor
with the cabinet right side up- and notice that there are a number of
tapped holes in the mounting plate that appear to accomodate other
frame size motors. Would like to hear from other heavy 10 owners as to
what size frme motor they are using.

Thanks

Dennis

The main thing is that there is some adjustent to the belts when the
motor is in place.

Check E-Bay, last time I looked, 1hp was going for around $25.00 plus
shipping.

search for something close....

DAve


Motor frame size

dconway00 <dconway00@...>
 

Have taken possession of a heavy 10 and in the process of cleaning
etc. before putting into service. The motor question still remains to
be resolved but am making some progress.

The lathe came with a Delco E2 motor - 1 hp, 460V, 3 phase with a 182
frame. As I have not found any diagram for rewiring to 230/220 I am
contemplating replacing the motor but I am finding limited (read
expensive) choices for this"large" a frame. I currently have the
cabinet up side down for cleaning - would not want to replace a motor
with the cabinet right side up- and notice that there are a number of
tapped holes in the mounting plate that appear to accomodate other
frame size motors. Would like to hear from other heavy 10 owners as to
what size frme motor they are using.

Thanks

Dennis


Re: Removing a 9" spindle

jonkzak
 

Scott,

I agree with Bob. I just removed mine a few weeks back.
I took a scrap piece of soft wood (pine) and used a 3lb hammer and with
a few sharp whacks the spindle was driven past the bull gear and the
rest pulled out by hand. Upon re-installing the spindle you will need
to 'whack' it back into place. Be careful that you don't relocate the
headstock on the lathe bed with all the `whacking'. This could cause
the gearing to not mesh properly. No big deal just loosen the
headstock mounting bolts reposition and retighten the bolts. I took
the time to clean the bed ways and headstock at this time so it was use
full, but not expected.

Regards,

JJ


--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Sinclair" <scott@u...>
wrote:
I'm trying to get the spindle out of the headstock on a Hercus 9"
Model A (South Bend clone) and for the life of me can't move the bull
gear along the spindle.

I've seen some posts that say you simply hit the spindle toward the
tailstock to dislodge it from the bull gear (I already have the V-
cone
pulley spinning freely and moving along the spidle as much as it can)
and have removed the collar at the gearbox end of shaft, but I'm
reluctant to simply start bashing the thing with a hammer and lump of
wood.

Can anyone let me in on the secret of how this is done?

Any advice appreciated...

Scott - Australia.


heavy 10 parts and heavy 10 wholes

Jeff Beck
 

Before I go to the bay with this I figured I would post here. I just
got in an entire older style heavy 10 (single lever gear box but with
5C headstock), it will be selling in parts. Contact me OFFLINE if you
need anything from it. For tooling it has a mic stop,most of a collet
rack, threading dial and a handwheel closer, no chucks. I sell parts
as entire assys for the most part, ie: entire apron or entire
tailstock.

In addition I still have 2 whole heavy 10s in stock both in nice
shape.

1) Old style, 1-7/8 spindle, single lever, 3/4jaw, tubular frame
base, 110v motor setup.
2) Recent large spindle, dual tumbler, lever clutch,cabinet base, 5c
lever closer, steadyrest,3jaw chuck, hard bed.

I have contemplated swapping the parts headstock on to the #1 lathe
to make it more desirable (5C) but im not sure its worth the work yet.

I get great freight rates (except to the west coast)

thanks
Jeff


Re: Help with lathe ID if possible...Pics and serial# 20231

bdmail <bdmail@...>
 

Thanks for the info Tom,

Any idea how hard it is to find a tailstock for this thing?

I would never part out a good machine, I would only consider it if it was
much uglier in person than the pictures show, or was missing a lot of
important parts that I'm not aware of.

I am definitely someone who appreciates "saving" a machine, with all it's
history, and have quite a bit of success in the past!


Thanks



Bernie

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, bdmail <bdmail@o...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Looks like it is pre-1925 according to a chart I just looked up.
(clipped)
Bernie,
I have a 13" Model 34 from 1915 that looks very similar to yours. It
was a line shaft unit without the overhead drive (similar to yours)
when it was received by its previous caretaker. He made his own cam
lever belt tensioner and found an old 110/220v motor to power it. I
have used it in my home shop since the late 70's. I think you would be
satisfied to keep, restore and use as yours, if you're so inclined.

I remember an earlier posting that we don't own these beasts but care
for them and ready them for the next caretaker. Seems a pity to part
out the machine, but I guess that may be the only way to get another's
running.
Tom Peace -- Bakersfield, CA
SB #5658


Re: Help with lathe ID if possible...Pics and serial# 20231

bdmail <bdmail@...>
 

Hello Rick,

That was my idea, if it was salvageable. It is missing a tailstock, which I
am unsure of the availability. It is also missing any kind of countershaft
(easily worked around).

I am also un aware of the condition of the ways. If it was terrible I would
only consider parting it out.

Otherwise, I would be happier to sell it whole, if I win it.


Bernie

If you don't want it why not sell it complete to
someone who does?

Rick


--- Tom Peace <tpeace@tcsn.net> wrote:

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, bdmail
<bdmail@o...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Looks like it is pre-1925 according to a chart I
just looked up.
(clipped)
Bernie,
I have a 13" Model 34 from 1915 that looks very
similar to yours. It
was a line shaft unit without the overhead drive
(similar to yours)
when it was received by its previous caretaker. He
made his own cam
lever belt tensioner and found an old 110/220v motor
to power it. I
have used it in my home shop since the late 70's. I
think you would be
satisfied to keep, restore and use as yours, if
you're so inclined.

I remember an earlier posting that we don't own
these beasts but care
for them and ready them for the next caretaker.
Seems a pity to part
out the machine, but I guess that may be the only
way to get another's
running.
Tom Peace -- Bakersfield, CA
SB #5658




Re: Spindle Sleeve for Clausing Lathe

Jeff Beck
 

Scott-
Im not sure if this will help or not. I have a Clausing Colchester
15" gear head lathe here. I think it is a D1-6 spindle nose though. I
dont have the morse adapter but I have the 5c collet adapter and I
can take measurements off it if thats of any help.

ps. I listed this machine on ebay starting at .99 cents and to my
horror it sold for slightly over $800!!! Reliable sold an almost
identical machine with a few more pc of tooling for over $3500! doh!
Jeff
--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Scott S. Logan" <ssl@l...>
wrote:
OK, slightly off topic here, but I hope someone here may be able to
help.

We have a Clausing Colchester 17" lathe, with a D1-8 spindle nose.
Off
hand, I do not know what the internal taper is, but according to
the manual,
it is 0.750" per foot.

I am looking for a reducing sleeve to be able to use a standard
mores center
in the machine.

Before you ask, yes, I contacted Clausing and was quoted $936.34
with a 2
week delivery.

If anyone can guide me to someone who may be able to help, I would
be
forever in your debt.

Thanks,

Scott


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Re: Spindle Sleeve for Clausing Lathe

Dave Mucha
 

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "Scott S. Logan" <ssl@l...> wrote:
OK, slightly off topic here, but I hope someone here may be able to
help.

We have a Clausing Colchester 17" lathe, with a D1-8 spindle nose. Off
hand, I do not know what the internal taper is, but according to the
manual,
it is 0.750" per foot.

I am looking for a reducing sleeve to be able to use a standard
mores center
in the machine.

Before you ask, yes, I contacted Clausing and was quoted $936.34
with a 2
week delivery.

If anyone can guide me to someone who may be able to help, I would be
forever in your debt.

Thanks,

Scott


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USA

You didn't mention the diameters or length, but it would appear that
you might be able to turn an existing one to fit.

Dave


Re: Spindle Sleeve for Clausing Lathe

Scott S. Logan <ssl@...>
 

On Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:46 PM, Doug Pfaff <> wrote:

That price is ridiculous. I can't believe they want
that much for a spindle sleeve
Yeah, that's kind of what I thought too.

Scott


Re: Spindle Sleeve for Clausing Lathe

Doug Pfaff <dougpfaff@...>
 

Hello Scott,

That price is ridiculous. I can't believe they want
that much for a spindle sleeve

--- "Scott S. Logan" <ssl@lathe.com> wrote:


---------------------------------
OK, slightly off topic here, but I hope someone here
may be able to help.

We have a Clausing Colchester 17" lathe, with a D1-8
spindle nose. Off
hand, I do not know what the internal taper is, but
according to the manual,
it is 0.750" per foot.

I am looking for a reducing sleeve to be able to use a
standard mores center
in the machine.

Before you ask, yes, I contacted Clausing and was
quoted $936.34 with a 2
week delivery.

If anyone can guide me to someone who may be able to
help, I would be
forever in your debt.

Thanks,

Scott


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Re: Milling attachment

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in that case I suppose it would depend on which way the part you are cutting was drawn and how it is clamped in the fixture

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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling attachment

I imagine that you would first have to decide whether a lathe emulates a horizontal or vertical mill.
Roy 
 
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To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:43:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling attachment

I am inclined to agree with the z along with the bed. isn't it in relation
to the axis of the spindle
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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling attachment


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>
> --- "william B. Mispel" <misltoe2@...> wrote:
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> > Actually, the Z axis on a lathe is along the bed length.
>
> If you're lying on your side, perhaps...8*)
>
>
> Way I was taught X and Y were inward and lateral carriage
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Re: Milling attachment

Leon Risenhoover <lrisen@...>
 

I am inclined to agree with the z along with the bed. isn't it in relation
to the axis of the spindle

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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling attachment




--- "william B. Mispel" <misltoe2@ne.rr.com> wrote:

Actually, the Z axis on a lathe is along the bed length.
If you're lying on your side, perhaps...8*)


Way I was taught X and Y were inward and lateral carriage
tavel and Z was perpendicular to these...8*)

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Re: Milling attachment

viajoaquin@...
 

Indeed, I was thinking of the knee axis of vertical and horizontal mills being the same but they are not! The z axis of a horizontal mill is not the knee but in and out (or front to back), which would make the carriage movement on a lathe the z axis.
Roy
 

-----Original Message-----
From: eeengineer@...
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:17:58 +0000
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling attachment

For sure: whether of not its a vertical or horizontal mill, if is a mill, the direction into the spindle is the positive Z axis.
 
Jim B.
-------------- Original message --------------
I imagine that you would first have to decide whether a lathe emulates a horizontal or vertical mill.
Roy 
 
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Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling attachment

 


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Re: Milling attachment

Scott S. Logan <ssl@...>
 

On Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:40 AM, Alan J. Richer <> wrote:

--- "william B. Mispel" <misltoe2@ne.rr.com> wrote:

Actually, the Z axis on a lathe is along the bed length.
If you're lying on your side, perhaps...8*)


Way I was taught X and Y were inward and lateral carriage
tavel and Z was perpendicular to these...8*)
Sorry, no. The Z axis on all machine tools is the axis aligned with the
main spindle.

On a vertical mill, "Z" is up and down of the quill (the knee, if so
equipped, is usually "W").

On an engine lathe, "Z" is "left to right" along the bed.

On a horizontal mill, "Z" is in and out.

I hope we don't have to get into U, V and W, or A, B and C axes!


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Re: Help with lathe ID if possible...Pics and serial# 20231

Rick v100 <rickv100@...>
 

There is a link to PDF copies of how to run a lathe
with pictures of the early lates on the yahoo group
site.

Rick


--- jeffrml <charybdis@verizon.net> wrote:

I bid on this lathe, but not much because the
shipping would have
killed me.

I agree: Don't part it out! This is a piece of
history.

It is a 13". I looked it up before I bid, and it was
built in the late
teens-1920. (Can't remember.) Contact me off list
and I'll email you
scan of that model number out of the catalog.

- Jeff



Re: Help with lathe ID if possible...Pics and serial# 20231

jeffrml <charybdis@...>
 

I bid on this lathe, but not much because the shipping would have
killed me.

I agree: Don't part it out! This is a piece of history.

It is a 13". I looked it up before I bid, and it was built in the late
teens-1920. (Can't remember.) Contact me off list and I'll email you
scan of that model number out of the catalog.

- Jeff


Re: Milling attachment

eeengineer@...
 

For sure: whether of not its a vertical or horizontal mill, if is a mill, the direction into the spindle is the positive Z axis.
 
Jim B.

-------------- Original message --------------
I imagine that you would first have to decide whether a lathe emulates a horizontal or vertical mill.
Roy 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Leon Risenhoover
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:43:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling attachment

 


Re: Milling attachment

viajoaquin@...
 

I imagine that you would first have to decide whether a lathe emulates a horizontal or vertical mill.
Roy 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Leon Risenhoover
To: southbendlathe@...
Sent: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:43:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling attachment

I am inclined to agree with the z along with the bed. isn't it in relation
to the axis of the spindle
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan J. Richer" <mrchurchill109@...>
To: <southbendlathe@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Milling attachment


>
>
> --- "william B. Mispel" <misltoe2@...> wrote:
>
> > Actually, the Z axis on a lathe is along the bed length.
>
> If you're lying on your side, perhaps...8*)
>
>
> Way I was taught X and Y were inward and lateral carriage
> tavel and Z was perpendicular to these...8*)
>
>                  ajr
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