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Re: Shaft Repair - an Alternative to Welding

kc1fp
 

INA bearings are sold here in the US http://medias.uk.ina.com/medias
also search for Timken.


--- In southbendlathe@..., "Mike Duchaj" <michaelj63@c...>
wrote:
That's where I started, and got nowhere. The staff of the local bearing
house did not seem too sharp.

I did see a table in my Machinery's Handbook of standard sizes. I need
to look at it a bit more closely.

Mike


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Another option, depending on the shaft, is to contact your local <BR>
bearing company and find out what bearings are avaliable with all of
<BR>
the correct diminsion except the i.d.(it would need to be under size)
<BR>
Then you can turn the shaft to match the i.d. of the new bearing.<BR>
<BR>
Just a thought.<BR>
Chris in SC <BR>
<BR>
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Re: re-building a shaft

cloktime <cloktime@...>
 

Hey, whatever happened to Al Babbin??  I met him once when I went out to CT to visit my bro who lives nearby.  Al had quite a collection of stuff which he was glad to stuff into the back of my van. 

 

Mike

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Tallant [mailto:thomas8482002@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:09 AM
To: southbendlathe@...
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [southbendlathe] re-building a shaft

 

You have an mind. But I like it.  Thomas

Ina Ron Lippard Renaissance Reproductions wrote:


    If it is just a worn spot,I might just build up the area and turn it
down.A broken piece may be chucked in the lathe.Using it as a welding
jig and using DTI to check alignment.Small tacks all around sounds like
a plan.Providing the weld and turn goes as planned,it should work.
   To bad Tom left before I could steer him to our illustrious comrade
Ali Babbin.I'd put good money for the cheap seat to THAT transaction.A
lawyer getting done by a fellow thief.Or did we pass that amendment Mr.
President wanted.No 2 lawyers shall sleep in...oh never mind!
but it would have been fun...snicker!
regards,Ron


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thy rod and thy sleeve...

Ina Ron Lippard Renaissance Reproductions <renrepro@...>
 

Big bad lawyer would complain that badet has no salt on rim and where is the worm!
If the job could stand a .002 shrink fit,I'd heat the sleeve and chill the shaft in dry ice.Don't wait to long when you put'em together.
regards,Ron
shakspear was right about lawyers...


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bdmail <bdmail@...>
 

Good luck Greg,

Do you know about the Atlas Group?  It is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlas_craftsman/
Yahoo! Groups Links

Good luck


Bernie




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I've been monitoring the site for almost a yes and have learned a lot from everyone here and would like to say thanks. glad in this instance for the dictatorship on this site as I,ve never heard anyone as low as the ny lawyer(******) hope some day to be able to contribute some knowledge as well as receive. I do believe you get what you sow and I wouldn't want to eat the lawyer crop. I've had a 10-k for about a year but came across a sweet 12 x 36 a**** so I'm selling the 10-k but will stay loyal to this site' I learned to run a lathe as a kid about 12-14 and still thick it's a great lathe though I ran a 9" at the time in my dad's shop. love to learn more and I do learn a lot here even if some of it goes over my head. thanks again to al thoughs who share there knowledge
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Re: Shaft Repair - an Alternative to Welding

BOB WRIGHT
 

Check online at www.mcmaster.com they have some bearings. Also
www.grainger.com Bob
--- In southbendlathe@..., "Mike Duchaj"
<michaelj63@c...> wrote:
That's where I started, and got nowhere. The staff of the local
bearing
house did not seem too sharp.

I did see a table in my Machinery's Handbook of standard sizes. I
need
to look at it a bit more closely.

Mike


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Another option, depending on the shaft, is to contact your local
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bearing company and find out what bearings are avaliable with all
of
<BR>
the correct diminsion except the i.d.(it would need to be under
size)
<BR>
Then you can turn the shaft to match the i.d. of the new
bearing.<BR>
<BR>
Just a thought.<BR>
Chris in SC <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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Re: thy rod and thy sleeve...

scottimsjr@...
 

The setting in Shakespeare's play is a group plotting to overthrow the government.  The reason for first killing all the lawyers is because they protect freedom.  Thus, the statement was actually supportive of lawyers - not derogatory.  As to Mr. Barr, I doubt he is a lawyer anymore than he is an accomplished machinist.  He struck me as one of the very people you were complaining about.  He did not want to do any research on his own - rather he simply wanted the members of this group to do all the work and give him easy answers.  When he did not get what he wanted the way he wanted it, he threw a tantrum.  I doubt anyone with that mentality can be successful at anything.  Ron, and the rest of you guys, please keep sharing and know that your years of experience have also brought you wisdom.  Just because people like Mr. Barr are not able to see it doesn't change the facts.


Re: Shaft Repair - an Alternative to Welding

Mike Duchaj <michaelj63@...>
 

That's where I started, and got nowhere. The staff of the local bearing
house did not seem too sharp.

I did see a table in my Machinery's Handbook of standard sizes. I need
to look at it a bit more closely.

Mike


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Another option, depending on the shaft, is to contact your local <BR>
bearing company and find out what bearings are avaliable with all of
<BR>
the correct diminsion except the i.d.(it would need to be under size)
<BR>
Then you can turn the shaft to match the i.d. of the new bearing.<BR>
<BR>
Just a thought.<BR>
Chris in SC <BR>
<BR>
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Re: ...and a mink-lined bore...

Thomas Tallant <thomas8482002@...>
 

If he grew up on the streets it was becouse his parents could not control him and keep him at home. I wonder if thay paid for his education to? Thomas
JEFFREY BOOTZ wrote:
He said he grew up on the streets. Perhaps a French pissoir mounted to a lamppost (with no GFI) would be more to his liking.

kc1fp wrote:

Naw, the taper roller bearings are good for a heavy loads but not at
all precision, use ABEC 7 angular contact bearing pairs back to back.
Diamond and most ceramics make good cutting edges but poor long term
bearing races or rollers, I have been down that road.

The library in the crapper is a great idea, how about a fur lined seat?

If this is being designed for the illustrious lawyer, maybe he would
like a baudette !

JP

--- In southbendlathe@..., Ina Ron Lippard Renaissance
Reproductions wrote:
>
>     ...you started this!
>     AHEM:
>    Double tapered roller-bearings with lapped diamond-coated finish to
> 1/4 wavelength of light.Rollers to have soft core to absorb
> shock,similar to a Samari sword.
>    Rouge lapped cross-feed screw and adjustable nut.
>     Rest room in shop
>      complete set of "American Machinist" circa 1890-to 1968
>     more time.
> OK guys, let 'em have it!
> regards,Ron





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Re: Shaft Repair - an Alternative to Welding

Chris Crawford
 

Another option, depending on the shaft, is to contact your local
bearing company and find out what bearings are avaliable with all of
the correct diminsion except the i.d.(it would need to be under size)
Then you can turn the shaft to match the i.d. of the new bearing.

Just a thought.
Chris in SC


Re: ...and a mink-lined bore...

JEFFREY BOOTZ
 

He said he grew up on the streets. Perhaps a French pissoir mounted to a lamppost (with no GFI) would be more to his liking.

kc1fp wrote:


Naw, the taper roller bearings are good for a heavy loads but not at
all precision, use ABEC 7 angular contact bearing pairs back to back.
Diamond and most ceramics make good cutting edges but poor long term
bearing races or rollers, I have been down that road.

The library in the crapper is a great idea, how about a fur lined seat?

If this is being designed for the illustrious lawyer, maybe he would
like a baudette !

JP

--- In southbendlathe@..., Ina Ron Lippard Renaissance
Reproductions wrote:
>
>     ...you started this!
>     AHEM:
>    Double tapered roller-bearings with lapped diamond-coated finish to
> 1/4 wavelength of light.Rollers to have soft core to absorb
> shock,similar to a Samari sword.
>    Rouge lapped cross-feed screw and adjustable nut.
>     Rest room in shop
>      complete set of "American Machinist" circa 1890-to 1968
>     more time.
> OK guys, let 'em have it!
> regards,Ron





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Re: Shaft Repair - an Alternative to Welding

Mike Duchaj <michaelj63@...>
 

That is plan B if the test piece doesn't go well.


As an alternative, how about turning it down to a cylindrical<BR>
surface, then shrinking a sleeve onto it?�
Mike Duchaj
Elgin, IL


Re: "Chatter" Tom - now - lathe wish list

George Taylor, IV
 

Dave,

Pretty complete list, but I think these days CNC
would be pretty cool.

I was at a machine show in Cleveland where a
Hardinge CNC lathe was making demos of a
bolt, washer & nut from 1/2" brass hex bar.
I still have the sample, and folks can't figure out
why the nut won't turn off the bolt :)

Watching that machine turn tthe threads on the
bolt right up to the nut and retract at precisely
the same point on both sides of the "nut" and
cut the washer loose between the "nut" and the
head of the bolt (all at a pretty high rpm) was
really impressive.

If money were no object, I would go for it.

I would love to put CNC on my Bridgeport
to do engraving, etc but it looks like at least
$5-6,000 with controllers, servos, ballscrews,
etc. I keep dreaming.

George

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From: "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@...>
To: <southbendlathe@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:43 AM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: "Chatter" Tom - now - lathe wish list




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Dave
I will put the description this way, think of a angry BrianP
without any
manners at all.
JWE
Long Beach, CA
I did go back and read his notes.

his first point was that no one responded to his questions.

So, I searched for his questions. I found 2.

Post 23634 and 24273.

Both are questions about buying a lathe. nothng but the best.

Granted we are no obligated to respond to anybodys posts, and many
like to chip in with their 2 cents.

My response was that since he did not feel he really knew what lathe
is best, and you have been around the block (and then some) that
someone such as yourself would be able to find a very high quality
lathe. SB, Clausing ? whatever, in his sizes 13x38.

I'm sure he would want the 'best' features. Here is what is on my
wish list. Maybe as a group we can create the ideal lathe. ?

taper attachment.
lever tailstock with quick lock on the bed.
micrometer tailstock feed.
turret attachement.
collet chuck (not manual collet holder)
LARGE dials in Ivory
DRO and tachometer
Multiple stop micro carriage stop. I ran a turret lathe that would
index the stop with the turret. nice feature.

In leau of a CNC lathe, how about a tracer attachment ?

Tee slot carriage cross slide
inverted cut-off tool
Aloris wedge tool post.

wadd-id I misss ?

Dave











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Re: Shaft Repair - an Alternative to Welding

n8owe <olduffer@...>
 

As an alternative, how about turning it down to a cylindrical
surface, then shrinking a sleeve onto it? Obviously this
won't work for all situations, but if applicable, it would
avoid the warping, cracking, slag, loss of temper, etc.
associated with the heat of welding.

--- In southbendlathe@..., "Mike Duchaj" <michaelj63@c...>
wrote:
I have to repair a splined shaft this weekend. The end part that is
worn is smooth (Not splined at that portion.), just worn from a
bearing. Hard to find replacement parts for a Massey Harris tractor.

We plan to lay weld into the worn spot and machine off the excess.


Re: ...and a mink-lined bore...

kc1fp
 

Naw, the taper roller bearings are good for a heavy loads but not at
all precision, use ABEC 7 angular contact bearing pairs back to back.
Diamond and most ceramics make good cutting edges but poor long term
bearing races or rollers, I have been down that road.

The library in the crapper is a great idea, how about a fur lined seat?

If this is being designed for the illustrious lawyer, maybe he would
like a baudette <g>!

JP

--- In southbendlathe@..., Ina Ron Lippard Renaissance
Reproductions <renrepro@s...> wrote:

...you started this!
AHEM:
Double tapered roller-bearings with lapped diamond-coated finish to
1/4 wavelength of light.Rollers to have soft core to absorb
shock,similar to a Samari sword.
Rouge lapped cross-feed screw and adjustable nut.
Rest room in shop
complete set of "American Machinist" circa 1890-to 1968
more time.
OK guys, let 'em have it!
regards,Ron


Re: Motor Wiring SB9A 1/2HP Motor

borenson444
 

--- In southbendlathe@..., "Webb Wyman" <wlw-19958@c...>
wrote:
Hi There,

Try McMaster-Carr. They have molded power cords that will work.
Check out pp. 728 on their website:

http://www.mcmaster.com/

I hope this helps. Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

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Oups! Sorry for the last reply. My message didn't appear so I deleted
it.

Here's what I wanted to say:

Thank you all for the info. The motor was wired with solid copper
wires but they were in bad condition and there was no ground also.
I'll let you know how I do rewiring it, hopefully without zapping
myself in the process. ;-)

On a side note I just wanted to say that working on the lathe, I
realized that even if never get very good at using it, I am having a
great deal of pleasure just giving back to this great little machine
a little of it's former shape and look.

Thanks again, and a great resource site by the way.

Patrice


Re: SB 11"

kc1fp
 

For the 13" go to Leblond part number CE3458, around $41
www.leblondusa.com phone 888-632-5663 or 513-943-0099

--- In southbendlathe@..., "Scott" <swmnb@y...> wrote:


I have done some searching for a 13" SB manual and came up with these.
Hope it helps.
http://www.lathes.co.uk/manuals/
http://users.netonecom.net/~swordman/MachineryManuals.htm



--- In southbendlathe@..., "Andrew Booker" <andy@j...>
wrote:

Hi
Can someone tell me where to get a SB 11" lathe manual? I've tried
eBay with no luck.


Re: ...and a mink-lined bore...

eng4turns
 

Well, Ron, I've got one of them - the restroom! And it has a highly
polished surface.

Ed in Florida

--- In southbendlathe@..., Ina Ron Lippard Renaissance
Reproductions <renrepro@s...> wrote:

...you started this!
AHEM:
Double tapered roller-bearings with lapped diamond-coated finish
to
1/4 wavelength of light.Rollers to have soft core to absorb
shock,similar to a Samari sword.
Rouge lapped cross-feed screw and adjustable nut.
Rest room in shop
complete set of "American Machinist" circa 1890-to 1968
more time.
OK guys, let 'em have it!
regards,Ron


Re: Take II, spindle bearing wicks?

Steve Wells
 

Henry,
I have the same problem with my 1922 9" model 25A.
It has phosphorus bronze "Babbit type" bearings, with overhead
oil holes. It does not have covers on the tulip shaped, press-in type,
brass oilers. I'm not sure if it ever had felt running on the
spindle, and may have just been drip oiled by hand. I am going to fit
a cup type oiler with the spring retained felt in the bearing cap.
It looks like I will end up trimming the felt to pass through the
bearing top hole to rest on the spindle. I can tap the bearing cap
hole to fit a larger cup or press some type of an insert in and tap
that. Does anyone have some expert advise here? I would like to do it
the "right way"

Steve


...and a mink-lined bore...

Ina Ron Lippard Renaissance Reproductions <renrepro@...>
 

...you started this!
AHEM:
Double tapered roller-bearings with lapped diamond-coated finish to 1/4 wavelength of light.Rollers to have soft core to absorb shock,similar to a Samari sword.
Rouge lapped cross-feed screw and adjustable nut.
Rest room in shop
complete set of "American Machinist" circa 1890-to 1968
more time.
OK guys, let 'em have it!
regards,Ron


Re: Shaft Repair

nicknelsonleeds <yahg@...>
 

--- In southbendlathe@..., "Mike Duchaj"
<michaelj63@c...> wrote:
The scan would be appreciated. I'm on dial up, so keep the file
size
under 200
I can't work out how to send these to you direct, so look here

http://www.education.leeds.ac.uk/~edu-nwn/shaft/index.htm

There are two .tif files about 150k each.

Any problems and email me direct (n.w.nelson@...)
and I'll send them.

Nick

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