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Re: Tailstock taper question

Rita Kinard & Duane McGuire <eesi@...>
 

Yes, but shouldn't have too.  Turn arbor in tailstock see if there is a slot in there for the tang to go into.  If not cut tang off.
Duane

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Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 5:07 PM
Subject: Fw: [southbendlathe] Re: Tailstock taper question

But if you removed the material from the tang (with the given the
chuck arbor has a tang), wouldn't it work?



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Fw: Re: Tailstock taper question

Rita Kinard & Duane McGuire <eesi@...>
 

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [southbendlathe] Re: Tailstock taper question

Point taken.  #9 SB should take a #2 morse in tailstock.
Duane
----- Original Message -----
From: kc1fp
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:45 PM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: Tailstock taper question

No, each morse taper is different. They vary from .598"/ft to .625"/ft
The #2 and #3 are close but you need a friction fit for the entire
length for it to operate properly.

JP

--- In southbendlathe@..., "David Young" <davey@m...>
wrote:
> Would removing a fraction of an inch off the small end of the drill
> chuck arbor morse taper give you enough to bite? It would still fit
> the headstock, but just be a bit shorter so that it doesn't bottom
> out in the tailstock. 
>
> Dave



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Re: Tailstock taper question

Rita Kinard & Duane McGuire <eesi@...>
 

Point taken.  #9 SB should take a #2 morse in tailstock.
Duane

----- Original Message -----
From: kc1fp
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:45 PM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: Tailstock taper question

No, each morse taper is different. They vary from .598"/ft to .625"/ft
The #2 and #3 are close but you need a friction fit for the entire
length for it to operate properly.

JP

--- In southbendlathe@..., "David Young" <davey@m...>
wrote:
> Would removing a fraction of an inch off the small end of the drill
> chuck arbor morse taper give you enough to bite? It would still fit
> the headstock, but just be a bit shorter so that it doesn't bottom
> out in the tailstock. 
>
> Dave



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Re: Tailstock taper question

kc1fp
 

No, each morse taper is different. They vary from .598"/ft to .625"/ft
The #2 and #3 are close but you need a friction fit for the entire
length for it to operate properly.

JP

--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <davey@m...>
wrote:
Would removing a fraction of an inch off the small end of the drill
chuck arbor morse taper give you enough to bite? It would still fit
the headstock, but just be a bit shorter so that it doesn't bottom
out in the tailstock.

Dave


Re: Tailstock taper question replies

gunsafeammo
 

Duane is right I didnt read the post correctly. The tailstock doesnt
have the same taper as the h-stock. If a M-3 goes in the head itll
take an M-2 for the tail.



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Re: Tailstock taper question replies

Rita Kinard & Duane McGuire <eesi@...>
 

Your taper is to big for tailstock go down one size.  If it fit your headstock it is to big for tailstock.  My old 21" has a bushing that fits in the headstock to take a #4 morice taper. For what it is worth.
Duane

----- Original Message -----
From: walpick55
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:55 PM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: Tailstock taper question replies

Thanks for your input.

I understand where you're coming from and yes backing off does eject
the taper, but even with the tailstock spindle removed from the
tailstock I can't get the chuck to seat in the taper as it hits at
the shoulder first.

Anyone else got any suggestions I really don't want to butcher the
tailstock spindle.



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Re: Tailstock taper question

gorvil
 

The headstock is a shortened MT3 taper. The tailstock is an MT2
taper. If the taper on the chuck fits the headstock, it shouldn't
fit the tailstock.

I am assuming we're talking about a 9 inch or 10K, if not, the tapers
will be different, but I think they will still have a different taper
on the headstock than the tailstock.

Glen Reeser


--- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "walpick55" <walpick@p...>
wrote:
I am a complete novice to lathes and metal turning but have been
reading up before I start.

I have a Jacobs chuck which fits my SB lathe headstock quite snug.
But when I put it into the tailstock it shoulders before the taper
interferes. This means that the whole chuck would turn if I tried
drilling with it.

Does this mean that the internal taper is worn and if so what does
one do about it?

Skimming 2mm off the end of the tail stock would give extra
clearance
and would no doubt make it function but this would remove some of
the
vernier markings.

Am I missing something obvious that seasoned opertators take for
granted as common knowledge?


Re: heavy 10 thread dial fs

Clint D <driggars@...>
 

Tom

To bad it is not for a 9" or 10K workshop lathe!

Clint

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Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 1:06 PM
Subject: RE: [southbendlathe] heavy 10 thread dial fs


ebay # 2585886086. I did post that this was for sale to the group about a
year ago, got no response, misplaced it for a while and decided to put it
on
ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11805&item=2585886086

in case anyone is interested


Tom


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Re: Tailstock taper question

David Young <davey@...>
 

Would removing a fraction of an inch off the small end of the drill
chuck arbor morse taper give you enough to bite? It would still fit
the headstock, but just be a bit shorter so that it doesn't bottom
out in the tailstock.

Dave


Re: Tailstock taper question

David Young <davey@...>
 

Would removing a fraction of an inch off the small end of the drill
chuck arbor morse taper give you enough to bite? It would still fit
the headstock, but just be a bit shorter so that it doesn't bottom
out in the tailstock.

Dave


Re: Tailstock taper question replies

Scott S. Logan <ssl@...>
 

On Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:55 PM, walpick55
<mailto:walpick@pickford.org.uk> wrote:

Thanks for your input.

I understand where you're coming from and yes backing off
does eject the taper, but even with the tailstock spindle
removed from the tailstock I can't get the chuck to seat in
the taper as it hits at the shoulder first.

Anyone else got any suggestions I really don't want to
butcher the tailstock spindle.
Haven't followed the whole thread here, but it sounds like your taper
is/has been reamed too big/deep.

Replace the spindle, face off the front, or bore it oversize and sleeve it
down.


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Re: heavy 10 thread dial fs

tom jelly <tom.jelly@...>
 

ebay # 2585886086. I did post that this was for sale to the group about a
year ago, got no response, misplaced it for a while and decided to put it on
ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11805&item=2585886086

in case anyone is interested


Tom


Re: Tailstock taper question replies

walpick55
 

Thanks for your input.

I understand where you're coming from and yes backing off does eject
the taper, but even with the tailstock spindle removed from the
tailstock I can't get the chuck to seat in the taper as it hits at
the shoulder first.

Anyone else got any suggestions I really don't want to butcher the
tailstock spindle.


Change gears

Ed Feuer
 

Hi all---Thanks to all who helped me identify my gear set as a South
bend type.Since I don't need them I want to first offer them to
anyone in the group for whatever the current going rate is +
shipping cost.They make a small but heavy package.To repeat they
are:80T,72T compound with
18T,64T,60T,56T,54T,52T,46T,44T,40T,36T.All are 9/16 bore,3/8 face
w/1/8 keyway except 72&64 which have oil holes.All seem to be cast
iron,18DP, never used,very slight film of rust on some,clean bores
and teeth.Make offer to jepennygirl@cfl.rr.com.Thanks again and hope
gears find a good home.Happy New Year and regards to all.First time
I've tried to sell--hope I havent committed any breaches of
ettiquette or custom--If so let me know ---Ed


Re: oiling a heavy ten

barry_strawn <barry_strawn@...>
 

I just added scans of the Belt Care and Leveling charts from the flip
side of the lube chart. I got it from LeBlond when I ordered some
parts last summer but the oil vendor information is a bit out of
date. Looks like October, 1967, date in the lower right corner.
Just have to translate to current products.

Barry


Re: oiling a heavy ten

Tom <ORIONLX200@...>
 

Yes I too really appreciate that chart.I worked in the petro chemical industry as a steam engineer for almost 30 years and it was a twice a shift duty to check and re-oil the different machine bearings.Nowadays though it is common to use the new oils that con cover a much wider range of temps and duties.I mean we used to have several types and now use just 2 or 3 types.This is on the same  old machines mind you.The machinist that had my SB Heavy 10 in fact used only a couple grades of oil very successfully.Does anyone else have any experience with this ? That old chart sure brought back some memories for me I think we had some 15 different oils hanging around.I would like to say thanks again to all the good folks in the group that have given me such good advice and information.I think if there ever was a reason to be on line and using these groups this is a very good one:-).I hate to think how long it would have taken to collect the information I have recieved here in a few days ! I belong to several other e-groups and this one is by far the one with the most information available on their different topics,you all are to be congratulated on such a fine setup and I might add so well  run a group.Those are hard to come by on the net these days.
Tom Munroe

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Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: oiling a heavy ten

Hey Barry thanks for the Oiling Chart !

Mike



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Re: Tailstock taper question

gunsafeammo
 

I had the same problem and just cranked the adjuster out about an
inch and it seated just fine


Re: oiling a heavy ten

mikemaddefordca <mike.maddeford@...>
 

Hey Barry thanks for the Oiling Chart !

Mike


Re: Tailstock taper question

mikemaddefordca <mike.maddeford@...>
 

Well I'm no expert either but with my setup I too notice that it
didn't seem to fit just right. But all you need to do is run the
tailstock out a bit and it's OK. Then to remove the taper crank it
back in and the taper pops out.

If this is not the way it's done I'm sure someone will tell us :)

Mike


Re: oiling a heavy ten

sbwest2002
 

-This chart is OK if you only want 1/4 of the data that the SB chart
#6514 ( 11" X 17" and 2 sides). Also the lube data is only for SB
supplier. The chart 6514 has data from 9 other oil suppliers so if
you gag on SB prices you can get equivalent stuff like Mobil from
MSC where I got mine at reasonable prices , shipping and fast
delivery. As I said before I got mine from Rose free when she was at
SB the first time. The chart listed here is a reproduction of parts
of chart 6514 and doesn't show a Heavy ten illustration, it shows a
9" or 10K. SB chart 6514 lubrication chart is for 10", 13", 16" and
16/24" and turret lathes.
Walt

This chart -- In southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com, "asicverify"
<asicverify@y...> wrote:
I put a copy that Jim sent me here;

http://www.mv.net/ipusers/cdwalker/Oiling.jpg

That should save Jim from having to mail it out so many times.

Jpg is pretty good image compression, so that may be as small as it
gets without having significant loss of quality.

-Carl


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<eeengineer@c...>
wrote:
I tried .gif the size went from 939Kb to 1,618Kb Also tried .bmp
similar
results.
Sorry.
Keep requesting for now.

Jim B.

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more
complex....
It takes a
touch of genius -- and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
direction"

Albert Einstein.


-----Original Message-----
From: anthrhodes@a... [mailto:anthrhodes@a...]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:54 AM
To: southbendlathe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: oiling a heavy ten


In a message dated Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:55:03 -0500, Jim B. writes:

<< I have a jpg oiling chart for a SP-9. I tried to post it last
night but
it
exceeds the 1 Meg limit. I tried to zip it but it only goes to
959
Kb from
965 Kb.

If any one wants it mail me off line and I will be happy to e-
mail
it. I
found this somewhere on the web but I cant remember where. >>

If it's black & white try converting to GIF, should wind up
about
1/4 the
size of the JPG.

Anthony
Berkeley, Calif.

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