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Re: Seeking recomendation on flat drive belt replacement
Andrei
You can still buy flat belts, brand spanking new.
also look on amazon and ebay. gobs of them out there.
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Paul_Piorkowski via groups.io <Paul_Piorkowski@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 1:59 PM To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Seeking recomendation on flat drive belt replacement South Bend Goup:
The 1" flat leather drive belt is slipping and has stretched to the limit of the adjustment. Although I have used what looks like a tar based dressing it is clear there is slipping. I am seeking recomendation on the best replacement. I am considering using the back side of a modern automotive serpentine belt. Paul
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Re: Seeking recomendation on flat drive belt replacement
search ebay for custom flat belt south bend and you should find several. Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, October 28, 2021, 02:39:42 PM CDT, Paul_Piorkowski via groups.io <paul_piorkowski@...> wrote: South Bend Goup: The 1" flat leather drive belt is slipping and has stretched to the limit of the adjustment. Although I have used what looks like a tar based dressing it is clear there is slipping. I am seeking recomendation on the best replacement. I am considering using the back side of a modern automotive serpentine belt. Paul
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Seeking recomendation on flat drive belt replacement
Paul_Piorkowski
South Bend Goup:
The 1" flat leather drive belt is slipping and has stretched to the limit of the adjustment. Although I have used what looks like a tar based dressing it is clear there is slipping. I am seeking recomendation on the best replacement. I am considering using the back side of a modern automotive serpentine belt. Paul
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1945/6 1/4 hp motor - original - disassembled
david pennington
Hi, Folks, The fellow I bought my lathe from reported that the original motor did not run, so he had disassembled it with an eye to fixing it. He had mounted another motor on the lathe...and that has served me well. I offer the "motor in a box" to whomever wants it--deal to be struck that is mutually agreeable. The seller was a neighbor, whom I knew to be meticulous. The small parts are in Ziploc bags. Pictures are available. I've attached a pic of the nameplate and oil cup. davidwpennington@... David David W. Pennington Denver, Colorado 720-442-3744 
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Re: Motor & Drum Switch
That's weird. I've just tried the link again, including refreshing, and it still shows currently unavailable etc. Could it be because I'm in the UK and the vendor is in the USA, and they won't export to us? Maybe they aren't European standards compliant or something. The pricing is certainly peculiar, to say the least, and it is in USD rather than GBP. Myford lathes used to be supplied with virtually the identical switch made by Dewhurst. I've just checked their website. Nothing of the sort. Ebay has only second hand ones, generally for parts only. Eddie
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Re: Motor & Drum Switch
wlw19958
Hi There,
On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:50 AM, eddie.draper@... wrote: Actually, not available new currently, and Amazon don't know when it will be back in stock. Is the manufacturer still in business?Actually, the Amazon link shows "In Stock" and ships in 2 to 3 days. The odd thing is that if you buy one, it is $65.76 but if you buy two, the price jumps to $364.00 and that is $182.00 each! Good Luck! -Blue Chips- Webb
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Re: Motor & Drum Switch
Ondrej Krejci
Greetings, Here´s the switch, same manufacturer, mostlikely, but with a plastic handle: https://www.mcmaster.com/7065K21/ Enjoy, OK
On Friday, October 22, 2021, 03:50:14 AM EDT, eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...> wrote:
Actually, not available new currently, and Amazon don't know when it will be back in stock. Is the manufacturer still in business? Eddie
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Re: Motor & Drum Switch
Actually, not available new currently, and Amazon don't know when it will be back in stock. Is the manufacturer still in business? Eddie
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Re: Motor & Drum Switch
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Motor & Drum Switch
amriensr
I thought I'd see if any nearby members needs this before posting it on the local sale sites. I have a older U.S. made GE 3/4 hp 120v AC reverseable motor wired to a Dayton drum switch pretty much plug n play, I can demo had this on my Heavy ten until I changed over to a DC motor and power supply. Asking $175.00. Local pickup only I'm in Queens N.Y. about 5mi's fron JFK airport. Anthony
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Re: SB 9" 3C Collet Nosepiece Insert Source ?
Sam
Thanks
Michael I will keep it in mind.
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 1:01 PM engmaxx <mgillen10@...> wrote: I have an account with McMaster Carr that will send to my door here in Newmarket, Ontario (just north of Toronto). I am one of the lucky few that had my account set up before they changed their rule for Canada. That said, not sure where you are in Canada but if you need something from McMaster, let me know.
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Re: SB 9" 3C Collet Nosepiece Insert Source ?
engmaxx
I have an account with McMaster Carr that will send to my door here in Newmarket, Ontario (just north of Toronto). I am one of the lucky few that had my account set up before they changed their rule for Canada. That said, not sure where you are in Canada but if you need something from McMaster, let me know. Michael
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Re: decoding a South Bend manufacturing card
wlw19958
Hi There,
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 09:55 AM, Bill in OKC too wrote: It has a stoutish 3phase 220/440vac motor with no data plate now.Well Bill, your serial card states that it left SBL with a 3/4HP single phase motor, 115 volts. Electrics get change a lot on these lathes over the years and obviously yours has been changed too. Good Luck! -Blue Chips- Webb
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Re: ISO some help
G K
More information attached. A catalog cut of the SB 90 degree attachment (accessory A). Thanks again in advance for all the assistance. A great weekend to all! Greg
On Friday, October 15, 2021, 09:53:55 AM CDT, G K <bug_hunter2000@...> wrote:
My bad, I inadvertently replied only to the previous poster. Now for everyone's perusal: I have, what I think is a SB 30mm to 3C collet adapter for a South Bend mill, 90 degree attachment. I know that a 3C collet seats nicely in the adapter, and it also has the SB set screw pockets. It came with a short draw tube. No threads anywhere on the piece but there is a dimple inside to keep the collet aligned. I would like to verify that it is indeed what I think it is, and have an idea of a reasonable price to sell it for. I've attached a photo, and could provide additional photos and measurements if needed. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks, Greg.
On Thursday, October 14, 2021, 03:30:15 PM CDT, Daughty <route66330@...> wrote:
What are you wanting to know about it?
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Re: SB 9" 3C Collet Nosepiece Insert Source ?
You guys have to have someplace up there you can buy such things from, but you could also make your own if you can do internal threading. That is a skill I don't have yet, myself, but I'm supposed to be learning in here in the next few weeks. Grainger has them in plain steel for $12.35. maybe they'll ship. Or if you're desperate, I could pick one up and send it to you. Though I think making your own is the best way. Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 10:56:16 AM CDT, Sam <i.am.sam.sam.i.am2008@...> wrote:
Yes, you're right V thread. I'm in Canada though, McMaster Carr won't sell outside USA. They would have to paperwork everything to prove to the gummnt they are not selling nuclear reactors in kit form. On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:30 PM Jim_B <jim@...> wrote:
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Re: decoding a South Bend manufacturing card
It has a stoutish 3phase 220/440vac motor with no data plate now. None of the electrics are there otherwise. No idea what the motor is really rated for, just going on what Bill H said, IF I remember it right. Was going to take it to work, where we had 220/440vac 3 phase power, and cables, and my boss was thoroughly capable with motor troubleshooting. Though his preferred method of repair was " remove & replace." Worked for me, as he sent several motors home with me for practice. Fortunately, I bought my own Megger, since the job evaporated last April, and the boss shortly after. He's not returning my calls, so I'm gonna have to figure it out on my own. I've gotten a few books on the subject, and some experience of my own from working maintenance on there for five+ years. Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 10:27:11 AM CDT, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote:
Hi There, I think Tony's spindle is 13-23/32" (if I read that right). That is only a 1/32" shorter than yours. The length is the least critical dimension. The collet draw bar can easily span that difference. Both lathes have the larger spindle (the spindle hole is listed as 1-3/8" which is the larger spindle). I'm curious about the electrical controls on Bill's lathe. The card indicates that it has a non reversible motor starter. The "West DE-10N MTR. 10-100 Watchman Style" doesn't imply anything to me. If it still has the original motor and controls, it would be interesting to know what they are and may shed light on the meaning of the description on the serial number card. Good Luck! -Blue Chips- Webb
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Re: SB 9" 3C Collet Nosepiece Insert Source ?
Sam
Yes, you're right V thread. I'm in Canada though, McMaster Carr won't sell outside USA. They would have to paperwork everything to prove to the gummnt they are not selling nuclear reactors in kit form.
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:30 PM Jim_B <jim@...> wrote:
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Re: decoding a South Bend manufacturing card
wlw19958
Hi There,
I think Tony's spindle is 13-23/32" (if I read that right). That is only a 1/32" shorter than yours. The length is the least critical dimension. The collet draw bar can easily span that difference. Both lathes have the larger spindle (the spindle hole is listed as 1-3/8" which is the larger spindle). I'm curious about the electrical controls on Bill's lathe. The card indicates that it has a non reversible motor starter. The "West DE-10N MTR. 10-100 Watchman Style" doesn't imply anything to me. If it still has the original motor and controls, it would be interesting to know what they are and may shed light on the meaning of the description on the serial number card. Good Luck! -Blue Chips- Webb
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Re: decoding a South Bend manufacturing card
nzpropnut
Bill, I was also pleasantly surprised to see the Gosiger Tool Co is still operational - listed on my Serial Card as the original agent. I spent a bit of time on their website tonight. Cheers, Tony
-------- Original message -------- From: "Bill in OKC too via groups.io" <wmrmeyers@...> Date: 17/10/21 00:44 (GMT+12:00) To: southbendlathe@groups.io Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] decoding a South Bend manufacturing card I've attached a copy of my serial number card, as well, so we can compare them, I note that Tony's has the same 102-5C for the DIC, as well, though his spindle is slightly different, at 13=28/32 or maybe that's a 25/32nds. It was 1941, and there was a war on. that might not have been significant at the time, though it would flunk a part in my class. ;) I do have the 2-1/4-8 spindle nose, as well. I guess I got lucky on the parts with mine, in most ways, though I have the single tumbler gearbox, and I think Tony's is a double tumbler. The handle is broken off mine, but the broken piece is there so can be brazed back on, and I have the skills and tools to do that. I also have an apparently complete spare single tumbler gear box. I was told that Bill H hunted for a while to get the Turret tailstock, so I know it isn't original with my lathe, but it's possible most of the rest of the stuff is. Though there is that spare 5C collet closer, too. ;) I got it for $950 as is, on one of the more modern (like 1939) steel-tubing benches. It's missing two of the drawers, so one of these days I'll be venturing back into the sheet-metal working realm. Making drawers instead of armour will be something new and different for me. ;) Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 01:18:03 AM CDT, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote: Hi There, After seeing Tony's Build card, I can see that the numbers (like 100, 102, etc.) I believe, do refer to the unit codes of the sub-assemblies. I see that the 13-3/4" is the spindle length. Seeing the build card explains a lot. Also, the "N" does refer to the UMD drive assembly (but the card does mention something about a maple top with 8 drawers substitute for the steel top). Reading the Build Card has been very educational. Good Luck! -Blue Chips- Webb
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Re: decoding a South Bend manufacturing card
nzpropnut
Bill, my machine is definitely a single tumbler machine. I have measured nearly 0.0015" wear on the ways near the headstock but I can live with that. There are no dents or dings anywhere on the ways. I have to modify the full-length chip guard on the rear to give clearance to fit the taper attachment. I took a lot of attachments off it to get the weight down for the move to our current location 4 years back. Did the move - no drama, but the house has caused a lot of drama through poor construction, so haven't yet reassembled the lathe as there may be another move coming up. We shall see. Cheers, Tony.
-------- Original message -------- From: "Bill in OKC too via groups.io" <wmrmeyers@...> Date: 17/10/21 00:44 (GMT+12:00) To: southbendlathe@groups.io Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] decoding a South Bend manufacturing card I've attached a copy of my serial number card, as well, so we can compare them, I note that Tony's has the same 102-5C for the DIC, as well, though his spindle is slightly different, at 13=28/32 or maybe that's a 25/32nds. It was 1941, and there was a war on. that might not have been significant at the time, though it would flunk a part in my class. ;) I do have the 2-1/4-8 spindle nose, as well. I guess I got lucky on the parts with mine, in most ways, though I have the single tumbler gearbox, and I think Tony's is a double tumbler. The handle is broken off mine, but the broken piece is there so can be brazed back on, and I have the skills and tools to do that. I also have an apparently complete spare single tumbler gear box. I was told that Bill H hunted for a while to get the Turret tailstock, so I know it isn't original with my lathe, but it's possible most of the rest of the stuff is. Though there is that spare 5C collet closer, too. ;) I got it for $950 as is, on one of the more modern (like 1939) steel-tubing benches. It's missing two of the drawers, so one of these days I'll be venturing back into the sheet-metal working realm. Making drawers instead of armour will be something new and different for me. ;) Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 01:18:03 AM CDT, wlw19958 <wlw-19958@...> wrote: Hi There, After seeing Tony's Build card, I can see that the numbers (like 100, 102, etc.) I believe, do refer to the unit codes of the sub-assemblies. I see that the 13-3/4" is the spindle length. Seeing the build card explains a lot. Also, the "N" does refer to the UMD drive assembly (but the card does mention something about a maple top with 8 drawers substitute for the steel top). Reading the Build Card has been very educational. Good Luck! -Blue Chips- Webb
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