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Re: Collet Rack Angle

wlw19958
 

Hi There,

Thanks Steve and Ruud.  Mine measures 10 inches so, I guess mine
hasn't been cut.  I plan on getting the holes for the set screws done later
today.

Thanks Again!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: Anybody close?

Steve Wells
 

It’s a 1941 model C, shop modified compound, shop modified spindle nose collet holder and closer.

Double tool slide without the slide…haha

Probably measured the swing down to the flat way, it’s a 9 inch.

 

Steve  

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 11:46 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Anybody close?

 

        It's a interesting lathe , maybe Ted or Steve can tell us more about it . Looks like it has a collet closer/chuck

        & a very interesting compound rest . There is a chuck in one of the pic's but you can buy a brand new chuck for under $ 200. with a backplate .

        animal

On 3/20/2021 8:30 PM, G K via groups.io wrote:

I'm close.  Can you guys tell the model from the rough photos?  Can't figure much from the description, 5"?  I am actually interested in the four-jaw chuck.  Looking for one for my SB9.  Not sure if it would fit or not.  25 miles away.

 


Re: Collet Rack Angle

Steve Wells
 

Mine measures almost the same, 10-1/8’, this is subject to how far it is threaded into the clamp bracket.

 

Steve

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Dammeyer
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 8:47 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Collet Rack Angle

 

Here's the photo.  Excuse the mess.  Wasn't expecting company in the shop.  I've put it here rather than attaching it because this way I can give you much higher resolution so that you can zoom in to see the 10" markings on the square and the mount to the lathe bed.

 

http://www.autoartisans.com/southbend/PostHeight.jpg

 

John Dammeyer

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of wlw19958
Sent: March-20-21 4:33 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Collet Rack Angle

 

Hi There,

John, if I follow correctly, the same measurement on my assembly is 11". 
When I measure from the top of the clamp (just behind the tube) to the
base (plinth) of the collet rack casting, I get 10".

Thanks for the info!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: Anybody close?

Andrei
 

That is done on purpose by some crafty sellers.

Typos are courtesy of autocorrect.


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of William Nelson <wnnelson@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 11:03:58 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Anybody close?
 
On closer inspection that's not a 10k head stock. So I'm betting some type of 9". Can't tell if it has a quick change or if it's a A, B, or C.Those are some of the worst pictures I've seen on Ebay. Why bother when you can't even figure out what the picture is. 


Re: Anybody close?

Daughty
 

That lathe is a 1941 9" model C as it doesn't have power cross feed nor power feed. "Lacks the clutch assembly" Only half nuts for threading.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 10:01 AM G K via groups.io <bug_hunter2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Sent a message last night.  No response as of yet.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 09:54:32 AM CDT, William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:


Well that is not a 10k tail stock but that's all I know. Could be a 9 inch, if it was a heavy 10 the collet would be in the spindle not on the threads. Just ask the guy if you can come and inspect a lot of sellers allow that.


Re: Anybody close?

William Nelson <wnnelson@...>
 

On closer inspection that's not a 10k head stock. So I'm betting some type of 9". Can't tell if it has a quick change or if it's a A, B, or C.Those are some of the worst pictures I've seen on Ebay. Why bother when you can't even figure out what the picture is. 


Re: Anybody close?

G K
 

Sent a message last night.  No response as of yet.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 09:54:32 AM CDT, William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:


Well that is not a 10k tail stock but that's all I know. Could be a 9 inch, if it was a heavy 10 the collet would be in the spindle not on the threads. Just ask the guy if you can come and inspect a lot of sellers allow that.


Re: Anybody close?

david pennington
 

Except for the collet adapter, it looks like the 9C in my shop. Well, not as clean, but otherwise like it.

My S/N is 167XXX, and a pic of it clearly shows the scraping on the ways. The scale and location of the S/N on the eBay machine is a match with my 9C.

-------- Original message --------
From: William Nelson <wnnelson@...>
Date: 3/21/21 08:54 (GMT-07:00)
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Anybody close?

Well that is not a 10k tail stock but that's all I know. Could be a 9 inch, if it was a heavy 10 the collet would be in the spindle not on the threads. Just ask the guy if you can come and inspect a lot of sellers allow that.


Re: Anybody close?

William Nelson <wnnelson@...>
 

Well that is not a 10k tail stock but that's all I know. Could be a 9 inch, if it was a heavy 10 the collet would be in the spindle not on the threads. Just ask the guy if you can come and inspect a lot of sellers allow that.


Re: Anybody close?

John Burt
 

I'm an hour and 10 minutes from there.
Am I gonna hafta find a place to put this thing?
Has anybody deciphered the photos? Not very clear to me.

John


Re: Anybody close?

Davis Johnson
 

I had that thought too.

The thread dial looks like a 9(a, b or c) or a 10k. So maybe a 10K?

Another possibility is they've listed the swing over the compound rather than the bed.

On 3/20/21 11:45 PM, Steven H via groups.io wrote:
I’m just guessing the the 5” is the center height so a 10” swing lathe. The Europeans like to use center height. 

Steve Haskell


On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:30 PM, G K via groups.io <bug_hunter2000@...> wrote:


I'm close.  Can you guys tell the model from the rough photos?  Can't figure much from the description, 5"?  I am actually interested in the four-jaw chuck.  Looking for one for my SB9.  Not sure if it would fit or not.  25 miles away.


Re: Collet Rack Angle

Ruud
 

Top clamp to underside base colletrack is 10” (25,5cm) on my heavy10

 

Mvg,

Ruud Silvertant

 

Van: wlw19958
Verzonden: zaterdag 20 maart 2021 22:05
Aan: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Collet Rack Angle

 

Hi There,

Thanks Steve and Ruud!  I am surprised that the two set screws are in-line.
I would have expected something like a 90° offset between them.

Looking at the pics of Ruud's collet rack, I think my tube has been cut short. 
Would you mind measuring the distance from the top of the bed clamp to
the bottom of your rack? 

Thanks for all the help so far!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

 


Re: Anybody close?

Steven H
 

I’m just guessing the the 5” is the center height so a 10” swing lathe. The Europeans like to use center height. 

Steve Haskell


On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:30 PM, G K via groups.io <bug_hunter2000@...> wrote:


I'm close.  Can you guys tell the model from the rough photos?  Can't figure much from the description, 5"?  I am actually interested in the four-jaw chuck.  Looking for one for my SB9.  Not sure if it would fit or not.  25 miles away.

On Saturday, March 20, 2021, 03:55:58 PM CDT, William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11021.m43.l1120/7?euid=f81f2437c65a4b4eba8e3140b4bac368&bu=43110938583&ut=RU&segname=11021&crd=20210320044957&osub=-1~1&ch=osgood&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F294073465926&sojTags=bu=bu,ut=ut,ch=ch,segname=segname,crd=crd,url=loc,osub=osub


Re: Anybody close?

mike allen
 

        It's a interesting lathe , maybe Ted or Steve can tell us more about it . Looks like it has a collet closer/chuck

        & a very interesting compound rest . There is a chuck in one of the pic's but you can buy a brand new chuck for under $ 200. with a backplate .

        animal

On 3/20/2021 8:30 PM, G K via groups.io wrote:
I'm close.  Can you guys tell the model from the rough photos?  Can't figure much from the description, 5"?  I am actually interested in the four-jaw chuck.  Looking for one for my SB9.  Not sure if it would fit or not.  25 miles away.


Re: Anybody close?

G K
 

I'm close.  Can you guys tell the model from the rough photos?  Can't figure much from the description, 5"?  I am actually interested in the four-jaw chuck.  Looking for one for my SB9.  Not sure if it would fit or not.  25 miles away.

On Saturday, March 20, 2021, 03:55:58 PM CDT, William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11021.m43.l1120/7?euid=f81f2437c65a4b4eba8e3140b4bac368&bu=43110938583&ut=RU&segname=11021&crd=20210320044957&osub=-1~1&ch=osgood&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F294073465926&sojTags=bu=bu,ut=ut,ch=ch,segname=segname,crd=crd,url=loc,osub=osub


Re: Collet Rack Angle

John Dammeyer
 

While I'm in the middle of something it usually looks like a bomb hit the place.  But I have also been trying to be more organized.  For example a short while ago I was cleaning the wood working area and this picture shows what I found.  OMG!  A tablesaw

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of wlw19958
Sent: March-20-21 7:49 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Collet Rack Angle

 

Hi There,

Okay John, I understand now.  I get the same measurement on mine.
When it comes to messy shops, you don't have anything to apologize
for.  Mine is much worse.  BTW, is this the beginning of "Who has the
messiest shop" contest?

Thanks!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: Collet Rack Angle

wlw19958
 

Hi There,

Okay John, I understand now.  I get the same measurement on mine.
When it comes to messy shops, you don't have anything to apologize
for.  Mine is much worse.  BTW, is this the beginning of "Who has the
messiest shop" contest?

Thanks!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: Collet Rack Angle

Bill in OKC too
 

Don't worry about it, John. Looks a lot better than my shop, and I've been cleaning and organizing since the week my brother told me he was on his way to deliver the Smithy 3-in-1 machine he bought for me last year and a bit ago. I can see patches of floor, the four lathes, and the top of one drill press. I have 10lbs of crap in a 5lb bag, so to speak. 

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Saturday, March 20, 2021, 07:47:49 PM CDT, John Dammeyer <johnd@...> wrote:


Here's the photo.  Excuse the mess.  Wasn't expecting company in the shop.  I've put it here rather than attaching it because this way I can give you much higher resolution so that you can zoom in to see the 10" markings on the square and the mount to the lathe bed.

 

http://www.autoartisans.com/southbend/PostHeight.jpg

 

John Dammeyer

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of wlw19958
Sent: March-20-21 4:33 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Collet Rack Angle

 

Hi There,

John, if I follow correctly, the same measurement on my assembly is 11". 
When I measure from the top of the clamp (just behind the tube) to the
base (plinth) of the collet rack casting, I get 10".

Thanks for the info!
-Blue Chips-
Webb


Re: Missing reamer

Bill in OKC too
 

I must be doing it wrong then. I don't find them until the new one gets here.

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Saturday, March 20, 2021, 07:47:37 PM CDT, Jim_B <jim@...> wrote:


If you really need it, buy another! Once the order is placed you will find the redundant one. 


Jim B,

On Mar 20, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:


I do have a box marked Someplace Special and when I am careful to put things in that particular box, they seem to remain there. If I put the stuff in any other someplace special it's gone. I may or may not see it again. I've discovered that what was logical once is rarely the same the next time. 

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Saturday, March 20, 2021, 03:19:37 PM CDT, Dave P. <thespamcatcher@...> wrote:


Simple, just skip all the normal places you look and go for the last place you'll look.
Isn't that where you always find stuff.

Or just be organized like me and put it in a logical place where you know you'll look next time!
The key is remembering to be logical when you look next time! I am still trying to use that
logic to find several things I have stored in the past.

D

--
Jim B


Re: Missing reamer

ww_big_al
 

When you find it, it will be in the last place you looked. LOL. 
Be sure to check your trash can. You never know

Al Knack

On Mar 20, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Jack Dinan <jack@...> wrote:

I can’t tell you how many times this happens to me recently. 

I’ll put down thing #1 while I go to get thing #2 and then spend ten minutes searching for thing #1. 

Drives me nuts.


On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:36 PM, jonwoellhaf <jonwoellhaf@...> wrote:

Did you look in the refrigerator? Shop apron? Clothes in the hamper? I rarely find something where I’ve looked – even multiple times. It’s usually where I haven’t looked because it wouldn’t be there. Good luck! <wlEmoticon-smile[1].png>
 
From: trackthatpot2000
Sent: March 20, 2021 08:21
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Missing reamer
 
I only had it delivered two days ago ...I need it for a special job and now I can’t find it anywhere..I have been searching for 4 hours and still no luck...I’ve checked everywhere all the places that usually I find lost items ..even that compartment at the back of the lathe bed under the tailstock (all I found there was some turnings and a spanner)...the only sure way that I will find it, is to order another one, and it will appear like magic.

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