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Re: Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

Jim_B
 

While that is true, it is always best to remount the chuck in the new lathe. 

I would use a new backing plate.
One should at least reface the old backing plate. 

This is particularly true on the smaller Workshop and 10K where the registry step is quite small and the older backing plate MAY  have a large radius at that juncture. 
One could reface the boss (with a proper spacer) if the radius is large, then reface the front of the backing plate, but you need to check the OD of the plate to see if it runs true on the new spindle. 


 
On Nov 20, 2020, at 1:42 PM, john kling via groups.io <jkling222@...> wrote:

It might be noted that the lighter south bends (work shop 9s and 10k) have the same spindle threads as the atlas lathes. Thus someone considering a swap of atlas for light south bend might want to keep chucks, face plates and other tooling.

On Friday, November 20, 2020, 11:06:14 AM EST, <dcox1032@...> wrote:


I recently sold 3 Atlas lathes and all my tooling; then switched to Southbend. I found a late model Heavy 10 that was in great shape for $1,900 with some tooling. It’s the accessories that rack up the cost.  Be patient, look on EBay, Craigslist and Facebook. Facebook has a few southbend groups. 

I got mine from HGR in Ohio. 

Southbend lathes are great machines, good luck. 


Jim B.





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Jim B


Re: Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

john kling
 

It might be noted that the lighter south bends (work shop 9s and 10k) have the same spindle threads as the atlas lathes. Thus someone considering a swap of atlas for light south bend might want to keep chucks, face plates and other tooling.

On Friday, November 20, 2020, 11:06:14 AM EST, <dcox1032@...> wrote:


I recently sold 3 Atlas lathes and all my tooling; then switched to Southbend. I found a late model Heavy 10 that was in great shape for $1,900 with some tooling. It’s the accessories that rack up the cost.  Be patient, look on EBay, Craigslist and Facebook. Facebook has a few southbend groups. 

I got mine from HGR in Ohio. 

Southbend lathes are great machines, good luck. 


Re: Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

Filson
 

I recently sold 3 Atlas lathes and all my tooling; then switched to Southbend. I found a late model Heavy 10 that was in great shape for $1,900 with some tooling. It’s the accessories that rack up the cost.  Be patient, look on EBay, Craigslist and Facebook. Facebook has a few southbend groups. 

I got mine from HGR in Ohio. 

Southbend lathes are great machines, good luck. 


Re: Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

siufung chan
 

Michal,
That’s a good deal. The South Bend 10L is a great lathe. 
Do it!
Regards,
Bill

On Nov 18, 2020, at 4:35 PM, fred eisner <imsteamer21@...> wrote:


hi michal - i have a south bend heavy 10 fully tooled with 5C collet draw bar and collets, 3 & 4 jaw chucks, taper attachment, aloris style toolpost and holders, centers, face and dog plates, dogs, and more
- condition is good to very good - ways are in nice condition - 1 hp single phase motor - machine is located near nyc 10703 and can be viewed and played with anytime - $2750 + shipping - i have a forklift and i can load your truck easily-
thanks fred - imsteamer21@... - 914 720 5523 eves


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of michal.gordon via groups.io <michal.gordon@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe
 
Hi everyone. 
I'm looking into getting the Southe Bend LAthe. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it?
 
Thanks, 
Michal


Re: 6K Collets

Jim_B
 

I have a complete set by 1/64’s with a few duplicates and one or two machinable collets. 
Mostly RSB some SB some Hardinge
Also includes a large, new step collet. 
I will only sell as a set. $550 + Shipping. 
I am  in NJ. 

-8
Jim B,

On Nov 19, 2020, at 7:19 PM, Payson <egreene104@...> wrote:

Anyone have 6K collets to sell?

Best,

Payson.

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Jim B


Re: 6K Collets

sblatheman
 

I have some. Send me an email with your requirements.

Ted
Latheman2@...

On Nov 19, 2020, at 7:19 PM, Payson <egreene104@...> wrote:

Anyone have 6K collets to sell?

Best,

Payson.


6K Collets

Payson
 

Anyone have 6K collets to sell?

Best,

Payson.


Re: need 13" spindle/chuck info

Todd
 

Ha, I got it now. 

I was able to get a 1-3/4" x 8 tpi from littlemachineshop and I'll be boring it to 1-7/8"

 Thanks for the help !


Old 11" for sale.

Todd
 

My buddy has an old 11" for sale. Been sitting in his barn for a few years. No legs as he repurposed them but the rest is there.  Cat 333-Y, serial 36232.  3' bed.  No motor, no chuck, no extra change gears & only has a faceplate.  
 He's asking $300. 


Re: Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

fred eisner
 

hi michal - i have a south bend heavy 10 fully tooled with 5C collet draw bar and collets, 3 & 4 jaw chucks, taper attachment, aloris style toolpost and holders, centers, face and dog plates, dogs, and more
- condition is good to very good - ways are in nice condition - 1 hp single phase motor - machine is located near nyc 10703 and can be viewed and played with anytime - $2750 + shipping - i have a forklift and i can load your truck easily-
thanks fred - imsteamer21@... - 914 720 5523 eves


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of michal.gordon via groups.io <michal.gordon@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe
 
Hi everyone. 
I'm looking into getting the Southe Bend LAthe. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it?
 
Thanks, 
Michal


Re: Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

Rick
 

Where you live makes a big difference on availability of old machinery.  In the NorthEast and Rustbelt old lathes are everywhere, and can be had relatively cheap compared to other places.

What size are you looking for? What kind of work do you want to do? Where is the lathe going, ground floor or basement? These are all questions you need to answer for yourself.


Re: Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

Bill in OKC too
 

But I ain't lying, either. ;) I'd tried to stop at 3, myself. Only the third one was a South Bend because the money and availability of a lathe matched at the same time. I've also got one of the HF 7x10 mini-lathes, and an Atlas TH42. My brother also bought me a Smithy CB1220XL three-in-one machine that he couldn't get delivered before the COVID-19 shutdown. I told him it wasn't the best choice, but I think it's a hint that he wants me to make some stuff for him. :)

Hi! My name is Bill, and I'm a Toolaholic. 

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 04:10:34 PM CST, George Meinschein <bustedguns@...> wrote:


Bill,

You're cracking me up with "one more than they really need"!  The conversations here have been - I thought you already had a lathe - Well, yeah. But that was a 9C, this one's a 9B. - Well, yeah.  Those are 9 inches and this one is 10 inches.  - Well, yeah.  This one's a 14.5" and I don't have any of those!

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.

WANTED: Bent, busted, rusted, and/or generally dysfunctional "C&R Eligible" firearms

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500
Email: bustedguns@...
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
www.meinscheinengineering.com
On 11/18/2020 5:01 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
Asking here is a good start, as sometimes folks here have one more than they really need. Keep an eye on Craigslist, and Ebay, also. Cruise estate sales, and tell others on other groups you belong to that you're looking for one. Compose yourself with patience, and stash money while you're waiting, too.  A few weeks (or maybe months) ago, I got an ad from Grizzly, who now owns the name, that I could get their new version of the Heavy 10L on sale for $6500+shipping. That is down from the $7500 they wanted around Christmas last year. I found my 1941-vintage Heavy 10L in a local friend's shop, in a pile of pieces he'd decided he was never going to get to fix a couple of years ago. I've not got it fixed yet, either, but I have it. Took me about 45 years to find mine. Limitations on budget, availability, and a place to put it all interfered. Hopefully, it won't take as long for you. 

Grizzly does offer financing, if you're interested. I'm not sure it would be a good idea for you, and I know it wasn't for me. SWMBO bought mine for me for Christmas. Now she wants to know why I haven't got it fixed yet. YMMV, of course. 

HTH!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 03:36:22 PM CST, michal.gordon via groups.io <michal.gordon@...> wrote:


Hi everyone. 
I'm looking into getting the Southe Bend LAthe. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it?
 
Thanks, 
Michal

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Re: Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

George Meinschein
 

Bill,

You're cracking me up with "one more than they really need"!  The conversations here have been - I thought you already had a lathe - Well, yeah. But that was a 9C, this one's a 9B. - Well, yeah.  Those are 9 inches and this one is 10 inches.  - Well, yeah.  This one's a 14.5" and I don't have any of those!

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.

WANTED: Bent, busted, rusted, and/or generally dysfunctional "C&R Eligible" firearms

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500
Email: bustedguns@...
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
www.meinscheinengineering.com
On 11/18/2020 5:01 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
Asking here is a good start, as sometimes folks here have one more than they really need. Keep an eye on Craigslist, and Ebay, also. Cruise estate sales, and tell others on other groups you belong to that you're looking for one. Compose yourself with patience, and stash money while you're waiting, too.  A few weeks (or maybe months) ago, I got an ad from Grizzly, who now owns the name, that I could get their new version of the Heavy 10L on sale for $6500+shipping. That is down from the $7500 they wanted around Christmas last year. I found my 1941-vintage Heavy 10L in a local friend's shop, in a pile of pieces he'd decided he was never going to get to fix a couple of years ago. I've not got it fixed yet, either, but I have it. Took me about 45 years to find mine. Limitations on budget, availability, and a place to put it all interfered. Hopefully, it won't take as long for you. 

Grizzly does offer financing, if you're interested. I'm not sure it would be a good idea for you, and I know it wasn't for me. SWMBO bought mine for me for Christmas. Now she wants to know why I haven't got it fixed yet. YMMV, of course. 

HTH!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 03:36:22 PM CST, michal.gordon via groups.io <michal.gordon@...> wrote:


Hi everyone. 
I'm looking into getting the Southe Bend LAthe. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it?
 
Thanks, 
Michal

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

Bill in OKC too
 

Asking here is a good start, as sometimes folks here have one more than they really need. Keep an eye on Craigslist, and Ebay, also. Cruise estate sales, and tell others on other groups you belong to that you're looking for one. Compose yourself with patience, and stash money while you're waiting, too.  A few weeks (or maybe months) ago, I got an ad from Grizzly, who now owns the name, that I could get their new version of the Heavy 10L on sale for $6500+shipping. That is down from the $7500 they wanted around Christmas last year. I found my 1941-vintage Heavy 10L in a local friend's shop, in a pile of pieces he'd decided he was never going to get to fix a couple of years ago. I've not got it fixed yet, either, but I have it. Took me about 45 years to find mine. Limitations on budget, availability, and a place to put it all interfered. Hopefully, it won't take as long for you. 

Grizzly does offer financing, if you're interested. I'm not sure it would be a good idea for you, and I know it wasn't for me. SWMBO bought mine for me for Christmas. Now she wants to know why I haven't got it fixed yet. YMMV, of course. 

HTH!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 03:36:22 PM CST, michal.gordon via groups.io <michal.gordon@...> wrote:


Hi everyone. 
I'm looking into getting the Southe Bend LAthe. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it?
 
Thanks, 
Michal


Looking into the Southe Bend LAthe

michal.gordon@...
 

Hi everyone. 
I'm looking into getting the Southe Bend LAthe. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it?
 
Thanks, 
Michal


Re: need 13" spindle/chuck info

Phillip Rankin
 

Todd;
I believe Ron was referring to https://littlemachineshop.com/, and he needed a back plate for a Buck Chuck https://www.hardinge.com/workholding/buck-chuck/


Re: need 13" spindle/chuck info

Todd
 

Thanks Ted, Ron, and others.  I have a machine shop and can make it all in house, though I do like the Shars option providing their backplate has enough meat left for the larger diameter. I just wanted the actual as designed dimentsions since this spindle measures a little small on the major diameter.

Ron, care to elaborate on "little machine shop for a buck" ?  I could use a few for my 10" Logan as well.

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Ron Vial <goldendreamtattoo@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:12:45 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] need 13" spindle/chuck info
 
Little machine shop has what u need I own a south bend 13 and have goten a backing plate for a buck chuck i came across but it had no backing plate hope this helps keep the ol gal a rolling down the road for ya love my 13 shr is a work horse for me

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 7:01 PM Todd <belvedere66@...> wrote:
  I am having a hard time finding the exact dimensions for the 2nd 13" lathe I have. Seems to have a 1-1/16" through hole and a 1.8xx " x 8 TPI thread.  Can anyone assist with the actual thread so I can locate or make a new backplate. It only came with a collet closer & no collets. I need a chuck on it pronto.

 Thanks, Todd


Re: need 13" spindle/chuck info

Ron Vial
 

Little machine shop has what u need I own a south bend 13 and have goten a backing plate for a buck chuck i came across but it had no backing plate hope this helps keep the ol gal a rolling down the road for ya love my 13 shr is a work horse for me


On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 7:01 PM Todd <belvedere66@...> wrote:
  I am having a hard time finding the exact dimensions for the 2nd 13" lathe I have. Seems to have a 1-1/16" through hole and a 1.8xx " x 8 TPI thread.  Can anyone assist with the actual thread so I can locate or make a new backplate. It only came with a collet closer & no collets. I need a chuck on it pronto.

 Thanks, Todd


Re: need 13" spindle/chuck info

Ted
 

Here are the standard lathe dimensions in the attached.

Ted


Re: need 13" spindle/chuck info

Rolland Sicard
 

Go to Shars and get a three jaw chuck with a 4 adjustment section for truing it.  Then from Shars also, get a pre-drilled back plate for the mounting of the chuck for a smaller threaded spindle mounting.  Then take the back plate to a machine shop and have it bored and threaded for the 1 and 7/8ths spindle.  I have already done so, then you can true the new chuck for near zero runout.

On Thursday, November 12, 2020, 7:27:37 PM MST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Check Shars or Grizzly. I think they were selling them up to 2.25x8 tpi at one time. 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of david_g4000 via groups.io <dmbanwarth@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 8:12 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] need 13" spindle/chuck info
 

Most likely 1-7/8" x 8tpi

On 11/12/2020 8:01 PM, Todd wrote:
  I am having a hard time finding the exact dimensions for the 2nd 13" lathe I have. Seems to have a 1-1/16" through hole and a 1.8xx " x 8 TPI thread.  Can anyone assist with the actual thread so I can locate or make a new backplate. It only came with a collet closer & no collets. I need a chuck on it pronto.

 Thanks, Todd

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