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Re: New to me 14.5" and need some help

gary roberts
 

The 14.5 South Bend parts I have some parts available I've decided to retire and part with various machines 13, 14, 15, and 16 all or parts Thanks group I've had a lot of fun reading    


Re: Oil help

Ondrej Krejci
 

Just use sperm whale oil, for everything.

On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 08:37:33 PM EDT, Nelson Collar via Groups.Io <nel2lar@...> wrote:


For spindle?

On Monday, March 23, 2020, 10:22:33 PM CDT, Jim Schaffroth via Groups.Io <beeeeeee4@...> wrote:


For spindle? Gearbox? Ways?

On Monday, March 23, 2020, 6:40:19 PM PDT, Nelson Collar via Groups.Io <nel2lar@...> wrote:


I'll start with the question asked in previous message. Quote "Why not just buy the correct oils?"
 The biggest problem with that is shipping cost as much as the oil. Well a very good friend turned me onto a mixture that has served me for many years very well. That mixture is 50/50 Marvel Mystery Oil and 30 weight Non-detergent oil. The last time I looked at the store in passing and both sold for less than $5 each yielding less than $10 and I did not need to look for Fed-X. Try it you might like it!
Nelson

On Monday, March 23, 2020, 04:46:26 PM CDT, Harley Schlinger via Groups.Io <old1940@...> wrote:


Amen, docent Canada have eBay or Amazon? I love my 14.5 South Bend  but you guys on this site ride a subject to death and still keep going, I have read 11 post on this subject and just looked and there is another 25 to read yet get of the subject and go work on your Lathe.

Harley   

On Monday, March 23, 2020, 12:07:35 PM PDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Why not just buy the correct oils?

They are available, not super expensive, and you can find them in small  quantities online, either at eBay or Amazon. 

I am having a hard time understanding the need to overcomplicate and modify a solution that already exists and has worked fine for decades. 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Terry McCreary <tmccreary@...>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 2:57 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil help
 
Just wondering; has anyone tried adding one of the stiction-reducing oil
additives to non-detergent oil, as a substitute for real way oil?  Hot
Shot and REV-X are two brands. A bit expensive ($US25-30 for a quart)
but might be worth trying if you live where real way oil is hard to get.

Best -- Terry

--
Dr. Terry McCreary
Professor Emeritus
Murray State University
Murray KY  42071





Re: New to me 14.5" and need some help

Wayne Andrews <Wayneandrews@...>
 

Gary, What’s this about? Wayne


On Mar 26, 2020, at 9:41 PM, gary roberts via Groups.Io <zsupercharged@...> wrote:


I have a motor dual shaft out of South Bend and other parts in Akron Ohio let me know thanks Gary


Re: New to me 14.5" and need some help

gary roberts
 

I have a motor dual shaft out of South Bend and other parts in Akron Ohio let me know thanks Gary


Re: Oil help

Nelson Collar
 

For spindle?

On Monday, March 23, 2020, 10:22:33 PM CDT, Jim Schaffroth via Groups.Io <beeeeeee4@...> wrote:


For spindle? Gearbox? Ways?

On Monday, March 23, 2020, 6:40:19 PM PDT, Nelson Collar via Groups.Io <nel2lar@...> wrote:


I'll start with the question asked in previous message. Quote "Why not just buy the correct oils?"
 The biggest problem with that is shipping cost as much as the oil. Well a very good friend turned me onto a mixture that has served me for many years very well. That mixture is 50/50 Marvel Mystery Oil and 30 weight Non-detergent oil. The last time I looked at the store in passing and both sold for less than $5 each yielding less than $10 and I did not need to look for Fed-X. Try it you might like it!
Nelson

On Monday, March 23, 2020, 04:46:26 PM CDT, Harley Schlinger via Groups.Io <old1940@...> wrote:


Amen, docent Canada have eBay or Amazon? I love my 14.5 South Bend  but you guys on this site ride a subject to death and still keep going, I have read 11 post on this subject and just looked and there is another 25 to read yet get of the subject and go work on your Lathe.

Harley   

On Monday, March 23, 2020, 12:07:35 PM PDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Why not just buy the correct oils?

They are available, not super expensive, and you can find them in small  quantities online, either at eBay or Amazon. 

I am having a hard time understanding the need to overcomplicate and modify a solution that already exists and has worked fine for decades. 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Terry McCreary <tmccreary@...>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 2:57 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil help
 
Just wondering; has anyone tried adding one of the stiction-reducing oil
additives to non-detergent oil, as a substitute for real way oil?  Hot
Shot and REV-X are two brands. A bit expensive ($US25-30 for a quart)
but might be worth trying if you live where real way oil is hard to get.

Best -- Terry

--
Dr. Terry McCreary
Professor Emeritus
Murray State University
Murray KY  42071





Re: South Bend Recommended Lubricants

david_g4000
 

John D.

Very simple chart. I like it.

Thanks,

Dave

On 3/26/2020 12:14 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:

To get rid of the disgusting advertising on the prezhost site here's the information that could have just as easily been in that email.

John Dammeyer

I suggest getting a few people in on the deal, ordering the 4 gallons, then splitting them up. It does save money.

WAY OIL
Mobile Vactra #2
Manufacturer�s #: 98458N
WAY OIL

SPINDLE � Type �A�
Mobile Velocite #10
Manufacturer�s #: 98989N
Type � �A�

GEAR BOX � Type �B�
Mobile DTE 24 [ISO 32]
Manufacturer�s #: 98735N
Type � �B�

EVERYTHING ELSE � Type �C�
Mobile DTE Heavy-Med [ISO 68]
Manufacturer�s #: 98669N
Type � �C�

�

�

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Faith Banini via Groups.Io
Sent: March-26-20 12:34 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] South Bend Recommended Lubricants

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I put this thread together to help those out who are restoring machines and are confused about the oils they need. I�ve included a simple to understand break down and also provided the links to Enco for ease of ordering.

https://prezhost.com/2020/03/26/south-bend-recommended-lubricants/#respond

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Re: South Bend Recommended Lubricants

mike allen
 

        I got all my oils for my 9A at WW Grainger . I took the original #'s to a local oil distributer & had them cross them to current oils & then had Grainger cross them to the brands they carried

        animal

On 3/26/2020 1:02 AM, Bill in OKC too via Groups.Io wrote:
None of the links go to Enco because it  was absorbed by MSC several years ago. They go to the MSC website search page instead, not the specific oils. I can't swear to it, but I believe the last time I looked there they had 5 gallon buckets & 55 gallon drums, only. Nearly $100 & $1000, each, respectively. Both would be massive overkill for my shop. 

Another poster gave part numbers for gallon jugs at McMaster-Carr, IIRC, and that is probably as good as you can get from a major suppler. You can find kits of pint or half-pint bottles on eBay, and don't forget to look for a local supplier of petroleum products in your area. Or check with a local shop, they maybe able to refer you. There are more than 40 such distributors in my area, besides Grainger & Fastenal. There should be someone in your area, wherever you are. 

HTH!

Bill in OKC


William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 02:33:37 AM CDT, Faith Banini via Groups.Io <faithbanini@...> wrote:


 
I put this thread together to help those out who are restoring machines and are confused about the oils they need. I’ve included a simple to understand break down and also provided the links to Enco for ease of ordering.

https://prezhost.com/2020/03/26/south-bend-recommended-lubricants/#respond
 


Re: South Bend Recommended Lubricants

John Dammeyer
 

To get rid of the disgusting advertising on the prezhost site here's the information that could have just as easily been in that email.

John Dammeyer

I suggest getting a few people in on the deal, ordering the 4 gallons, then splitting them up. It does save money.

WAY OIL
Mobile Vactra #2
Manufacturer’s #: 98458N
WAY OIL

SPINDLE – Type “A”
Mobile Velocite #10
Manufacturer’s #: 98989N
Type – “A”

GEAR BOX – Type “B”
Mobile DTE 24 [ISO 32]
Manufacturer’s #: 98735N
Type – “B”

EVERYTHING ELSE – Type “C”
Mobile DTE Heavy-Med [ISO 68]
Manufacturer’s #: 98669N
Type – “C”

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of Faith Banini via Groups.Io
Sent: March-26-20 12:34 AM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] South Bend Recommended Lubricants

 

 

I put this thread together to help those out who are restoring machines and are confused about the oils they need. I’ve included a simple to understand break down and also provided the links to Enco for ease of ordering.

https://prezhost.com/2020/03/26/south-bend-recommended-lubricants/#respond

 


Re: Oil help

Gary Jones
 

Here is the listing for the South Bend Oils on EBAY

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SOUTH-BEND-LATHE-RECOMMENDED-A-B-and-C-LATHE-OILS/223438984795?hash=item340600565b:g:V7UAAOxymiVQ~cQk

 

These are 16 Ounce bottles and they will last you for a long time….

 

Gary

 

Don’t let Yesterday take up too much of Today

Will Rogers

 


Re: South Bend Recommended Lubricants

Bill in OKC too
 

None of the links go to Enco because it  was absorbed by MSC several years ago. They go to the MSC website search page instead, not the specific oils. I can't swear to it, but I believe the last time I looked there they had 5 gallon buckets & 55 gallon drums, only. Nearly $100 & $1000, each, respectively. Both would be massive overkill for my shop. 

Another poster gave part numbers for gallon jugs at McMaster-Carr, IIRC, and that is probably as good as you can get from a major suppler. You can find kits of pint or half-pint bottles on eBay, and don't forget to look for a local supplier of petroleum products in your area. Or check with a local shop, they maybe able to refer you. There are more than 40 such distributors in my area, besides Grainger & Fastenal. There should be someone in your area, wherever you are. 

HTH!

Bill in OKC


William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 02:33:37 AM CDT, Faith Banini via Groups.Io <faithbanini@...> wrote:


 
I put this thread together to help those out who are restoring machines and are confused about the oils they need. I’ve included a simple to understand break down and also provided the links to Enco for ease of ordering.

https://prezhost.com/2020/03/26/south-bend-recommended-lubricants/#respond
 


South Bend Recommended Lubricants

Faith Banini <faithbanini@...>
 

 
I put this thread together to help those out who are restoring machines and are confused about the oils they need. I’ve included a simple to understand break down and also provided the links to Enco for ease of ordering.

https://prezhost.com/2020/03/26/south-bend-recommended-lubricants/#respond
 


Re: I need SB 9A UMD drive to buy

sblatheman
 

I have what you need 🙂
Send me an email
Latheman2@...
Ted

On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Faith Banini via Groups.Io <faithbanini@...> wrote:

My SB 9A UMD drive that has leaking badly. I have given up trying to fix it and I want to buy a new one. Can someone recommend a store


Re: I need SB 9A UMD drive to buy

mike allen
 

        check with Latheman Ted m if he doesn't  chime in here try him on https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/south-bend-lathes/

        animal

On 3/25/2020 5:19 PM, Faith Banini via Groups.Io wrote:
My SB 9A UMD drive that has leaking badly. I have given up trying to fix it and I want to buy a new one. Can someone recommend a store


I need SB 9A UMD drive to buy

Faith Banini <faithbanini@...>
 

My SB 9A UMD drive that has leaking badly. I have given up trying to fix it and I want to buy a new one. Can someone recommend a store


Re: Oil help

engmaxx
 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 04:02 PM, David R8 wrote:

I bought oils from their eBay store

https://www.ebay.ca/usr/bluechipmachineshop?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

Thanks David!  I feel like a noob though there isn't a hint of ebay on the website.  
I will see where that gets me...


Re: Oil help

David R8
 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 12:59 PM, engmaxx wrote:
I think there is a correction here:  Mick Finch runs the Blue Chip Machine Shop website.  I don't see any reference to Ed. 

That said, I have contacted him twice through the website with no response.  How do I get in touch with him? 

I bought oils from their eBay store

https://www.ebay.ca/usr/bluechipmachineshop?_trksid=p2047675.l2559


Re: Oil help

engmaxx
 

I think there is a correction here:  Mick Finch runs the Blue Chip Machine Shop website.  I don't see any reference to Ed. 

That said, I have contacted him twice through the website with no response.  How do I get in touch with him? 


Re: Local Alert: Virginia closes public schools through the academic year to fight spread of coronavirus

Davis Johnson
 

The one before is

http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2020/03/blocked-from-port-cmv-cruise-ships-transfer-passengers-at-sea/

The one after is

http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2020/03/a-sunday-distraction-windjammer-thrills-newsreel/

Their previous/next links are just above the entry title, instead of saying previous or next or something they have the titles of the previous or next entry.

On 3/24/20 9:56 PM, Emily Hawes wrote:

How do you get to them and what are the titles? This is a confusing interface. There are names for contributing authors but no dates on the menu (?) so before and after don't make sense to me. 

On 3/24/2020 4:09 PM, Davis Johnson wrote:

The blog entry before that one and the blog entry after that one are also interesting.

On 3/24/20 1:37 PM, Emily Hawes wrote:

Very cushy. Except when they didn't have a box and just hung over the side or climbed out onto the net rigging out to the side and or front or back. I would have thought the back would have been preferable as if you fell in you would not get immediately run over and skinned at the very least (probably skinned, broken and drowned). I suspect there was more than one way to get the job done. The spelling would seem to lead to the misunderstanding that it was somehow a rag for cleaning one's feet! The one the dude pulled up looked like just the frazzle on the end of the rope (as the tow or however spelled fiber of the rope explanation) versus an actual rag. I'm afraid I'd have wanted individual ropes and rags - the whole ship would probably have a tendency to circle to the side with all the drag!

On 3/24/2020 12:13 PM, Davis Johnson wrote:

Speaking of scurvy:

http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2020/03/tow-rags-or-how-sailors-cleaned-their-bums/

On 3/24/20 11:40 AM, Emily Hawes wrote:

Or mildew, fungus. I saw that 50s sci fi movie and it wasn't pretty.

On 3/24/2020 8:55 AM, Cecilia Pitas wrote:
I’m too neanderthal for facebook.  Grammy wonders about Leah and Phillip?  And Jamey.  She says to get out in the sun at mid day to avoid scurvy from working in the basement.  

On Mar 24, 2020, at 6:48 AM, Davis Johnson <davis@...> wrote:

So far so good. Meg is making videos for her kids. (See facebook, if you do that sort of thing).

I'm going to work in the basement everyday.

Richard is still going to work everyday, even working overtime, at marydiddle.

Beth is still on the post-surgery restrictive diet for I think another week, otherwise she has been feeling a lot better.

On 3/23/20 5:06 PM, Cecilia Pitas wrote:
yeah, I bet you did!  How are you doing?  No cough, fever other than cabin, etc?

On Mar 23, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Davis Johnson <davis@...> wrote:

Got it from other sources.

On 3/23/20 3:34 PM, Cecilia Pitas wrote:
‘bout time.

On Mar 23, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Emily Hawes <emhawes@...> wrote:

Did you get this? 


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Re: D1-4 chuck setup

sblatheman
 

That is called a “step chuck closer”(sometimes called a “pot chuck closer”

Ted

On Mar 24, 2020, at 7:06 PM, comstock_friend <jfriend314@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

I heard the term 'donut' for the D1 series nose protectors. I found one on ebay (said it was a 'back plate' but obviously not). Looked like this before I removed a bit more metal from its front.

John
<2018-04-21 Ebay D1-4 LATHE CHUCK MOUNT APPROX 4.5 Inch OD 01.jpg>
<2018-04-21 Ebay D1-4 LATHE CHUCK MOUNT APPROX 4.5 Inch OD 02.jpg>
<2018-04-21 Ebay D1-4 LATHE CHUCK MOUNT APPROX 4.5 Inch OD 03.jpg>


Re: D1-4 chuck setup

Colin Fera
 

I work in a research facility that has a couple of machine shops in some of the out buildings, though I am not a machinist. There is an odd; short bed but fairly large swing maybe 17x33, probably mid 80's monarch lathe that has something that looks like this but is actually a collet holder. I think its D1-6.


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:06 PM comstock_friend <jfriend314@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

I heard the term 'donut' for the D1 series nose protectors. I found one on ebay (said it was a 'back plate' but obviously not). Looked like this before I removed a bit more metal from its front.

John

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