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Re: Pearl Harbor WWII SB 10 L markings

mike allen
 

ya might ask the same question here , Steve Well's or Ted Latheman could probably tell ya the scoop

https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/south-bend-lathes/

        animal

On 2/12/2020 12:10 AM, glenn brooks wrote:
Hello All,

The Hawaii Railway Society, in Ewa Beach, has an old surplus WWII Pearl Harbor SB 10L in our back shops. I would like to come up with some explanation of the WW II stampings on the end side of the bed/ways.

Can anyone advise what these markings may indicate?

FYI, we know the lathe was produced in 1942, and came from the Navy to the HRS from the Pearl Harbor naval machine shop some years ago. But I haven’t been able to interpret the markings that have been added since new, or find anyone who knows what they mean.

Clearly the lathe contributed to the war effort in the Pacific. I think it would be cool to learn more about where it has been used.

Thanks much if anyone can shed any light on its history.

Thanks much,
Glenn


Pearl Harbor WWII SB 10 L markings

glenn brooks <brooks.glenn@...>
 

Hello All,

The Hawaii Railway Society, in Ewa Beach, has an old surplus WWII Pearl Harbor SB 10L in our back shops. I would like to come up with some explanation of the WW II stampings on the end side of the bed/ways.

Can anyone advise what these markings may indicate?

FYI, we know the lathe was produced in 1942, and came from the Navy to the HRS from the Pearl Harbor naval machine shop some years ago. But I haven’t been able to interpret the markings that have been added since new, or find anyone who knows what they mean.

Clearly the lathe contributed to the war effort in the Pacific. I think it would be cool to learn more about where it has been used.

Thanks much if anyone can shed any light on its history.

Thanks much,
Glenn


Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

john kling
 

Are lathes like this one that are modified with huge riser blocks subject to a lot of twisting?

On Saturday, February 8, 2020, 7:27:45 PM EST, sblatheman via Groups.Io <latheman2@...> wrote:


Steve,
The 14” Turn ado was an import like what grizzly sells, a “South Bend” in name only.
Note: not to be confused with the Fourteen (made in South Bend)
Ted

> On Feb 8, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Steve Wells <wswells@...> wrote:
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> Ted, did you ever see one of the 14's built?
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> Steve
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> -----Original Message----- From: sblatheman via Groups.Io
> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 5:30 PM
> To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL
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> It is a 27” (17” with risers) built for the military in South Bend, Indiana.
> Most of them were built for off-road mobile machine shops.
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> Ted
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Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

Steve Wells
 

Is it a 612 ?
Steve

On Feb 8, 2020, at 7:43 PM, ken campbell <deltainc@grm.net> wrote:

Magnaturn ... i have one that was working when i shut it off in 2006. has 6 ft. air barfeed. sw iowa ... pm me if interested.





Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

ken campbell
 

Magnaturn ... i have one that was working when i shut it off in 2006.  has 6 ft. air barfeed.  sw iowa ... pm me if interested.


Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

sblatheman
 

Steve,
The 14” Turn ado was an import like what grizzly sells, a “South Bend” in name only.
Note: not to be confused with the Fourteen (made in South Bend)
Ted

On Feb 8, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Steve Wells <wswells@earthlink.net> wrote:

Ted, did you ever see one of the 14's built?

Steve

-----Original Message----- From: sblatheman via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 5:30 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

It is a 27” (17” with risers) built for the military in South Bend, Indiana.
Most of them were built for off-road mobile machine shops.

Ted

On Feb 8, 2020, at 3:07 PM, bclong7@runbox.com wrote:

Claims it is NOS. Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html











Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

Bill in OKC too
 

Well, I was apparently wrong. They no longer list a 27" lathe, though they do have lathes up to 41". 



They have several lathes that are not branded South Bend but nothing in that size. 


Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Saturday, February 8, 2020, 02:48:32 PM CST, bclong7@... <bclong7@...> wrote:


The plaques riveted to it mention "South Bend Lathe Company South Bend, Indiana" and "An Employee Owned Company".  The patina and design - to me it just looks like a lathe that would have been made in South Bend.  And the serial number appears to follow the same pattern as other later production SB machines.  However, there is no mention of a machine bigger than 17 inch in Steve Wells' database. 

I'm certainly no expert on the subject - this is all just enjoyable speculation. 

Bernie

On 2/8/2020 2:19 PM, James Rice wrote:
It's been listed for months now.  Same price which is about the retail price quoted by South Bend/Grizzly.  It's only 15 minutes from me, I should call them and check it out.  


James

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 2:05 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:
Claims it is NOS.  Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html








Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

Steve Wells
 

I'm also looking for a 612 MagnaTurn to retrofit

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Wells
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 5:50 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

Ted, did you ever see one of the 14's built?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: sblatheman via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 5:30 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

It is a 27” (17” with risers) built for the military in South Bend, Indiana.
Most of them were built for off-road mobile machine shops.

Ted

On Feb 8, 2020, at 3:07 PM, bclong7@runbox.com wrote:

Claims it is NOS. Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html







Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

Steve Wells
 

Ted, did you ever see one of the 14's built?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: sblatheman via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 5:30 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

It is a 27” (17” with risers) built for the military in South Bend, Indiana.
Most of them were built for off-road mobile machine shops.

Ted

On Feb 8, 2020, at 3:07 PM, bclong7@runbox.com wrote:

Claims it is NOS. Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html







Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

Steve Wells
 

The Turn-Nado serial numbers can be misleading sometimes, I haven’t completed my research on them yet.
Still collecting data and numbers. the lathe listed in the video by Sterling (great company) is a 2000 year I believe.
After the original 17 Inch, they made a 20 inch also, then in the late years they had 14, 16, 18, 22 and advertised in 1998, they would build a Turn-Nado
from 10 to 50 inches for you. Man would I like to see a 10” to 14” for sale somewhere.
 
Steve
 

From: bclong7@...
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 3:48 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL
 

The plaques riveted to it mention "South Bend Lathe Company South Bend, Indiana" and "An Employee Owned Company".  The patina and design - to me it just looks like a lathe that would have been made in South Bend.  And the serial number appears to follow the same pattern as other later production SB machines.  However, there is no mention of a machine bigger than 17 inch in Steve Wells' database. 

I'm certainly no expert on the subject - this is all just enjoyable speculation. 

Bernie

On 2/8/2020 2:19 PM, James Rice wrote:
It's been listed for months now.  Same price which is about the retail price quoted by South Bend/Grizzly.  It's only 15 minutes from me, I should call them and check it out. 
 
 
James
 
On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 2:05 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:
Claims it is NOS.  Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html








Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

sblatheman
 

It is a 27” (17” with risers) built for the military in South Bend, Indiana.
Most of them were built for off-road mobile machine shops.

Ted

On Feb 8, 2020, at 3:07 PM, bclong7@runbox.com wrote:

Claims it is NOS. Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html







Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

James Rice
 

I missed the old data plate so that is probably low time if not unused.  I wonder how sitting unused for decades affected it mechanically?

James

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 3:24 PM Sam <i.am.sam.sam.i.am2008@...> wrote:
Nevermind I was wrong.

If you can read the model number - maybe send that to Steve Wells


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:21 PM Sam <i.am.sam.sam.i.am2008@...> wrote:
18" -27"

27" is the gap diameter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Yd0rgseh4


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 3:48 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:

The plaques riveted to it mention "South Bend Lathe Company South Bend, Indiana" and "An Employee Owned Company".  The patina and design - to me it just looks like a lathe that would have been made in South Bend.  And the serial number appears to follow the same pattern as other later production SB machines.  However, there is no mention of a machine bigger than 17 inch in Steve Wells' database. 

I'm certainly no expert on the subject - this is all just enjoyable speculation. 

Bernie

On 2/8/2020 2:19 PM, James Rice wrote:
It's been listed for months now.  Same price which is about the retail price quoted by South Bend/Grizzly.  It's only 15 minutes from me, I should call them and check it out.  


James

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 2:05 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:
Claims it is NOS.  Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html








Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

Sam
 

Nevermind I was wrong.

If you can read the model number - maybe send that to Steve Wells


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:21 PM Sam <i.am.sam.sam.i.am2008@...> wrote:
18" -27"

27" is the gap diameter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Yd0rgseh4


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 3:48 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:

The plaques riveted to it mention "South Bend Lathe Company South Bend, Indiana" and "An Employee Owned Company".  The patina and design - to me it just looks like a lathe that would have been made in South Bend.  And the serial number appears to follow the same pattern as other later production SB machines.  However, there is no mention of a machine bigger than 17 inch in Steve Wells' database. 

I'm certainly no expert on the subject - this is all just enjoyable speculation. 

Bernie

On 2/8/2020 2:19 PM, James Rice wrote:
It's been listed for months now.  Same price which is about the retail price quoted by South Bend/Grizzly.  It's only 15 minutes from me, I should call them and check it out.  


James

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 2:05 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:
Claims it is NOS.  Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html








Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

Sam
 

18" -27"

27" is the gap diameter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Yd0rgseh4


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 3:48 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:

The plaques riveted to it mention "South Bend Lathe Company South Bend, Indiana" and "An Employee Owned Company".  The patina and design - to me it just looks like a lathe that would have been made in South Bend.  And the serial number appears to follow the same pattern as other later production SB machines.  However, there is no mention of a machine bigger than 17 inch in Steve Wells' database. 

I'm certainly no expert on the subject - this is all just enjoyable speculation. 

Bernie

On 2/8/2020 2:19 PM, James Rice wrote:
It's been listed for months now.  Same price which is about the retail price quoted by South Bend/Grizzly.  It's only 15 minutes from me, I should call them and check it out.  


James

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 2:05 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:
Claims it is NOS.  Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html








Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

bclong7@...
 

The plaques riveted to it mention "South Bend Lathe Company South Bend, Indiana" and "An Employee Owned Company".  The patina and design - to me it just looks like a lathe that would have been made in South Bend.  And the serial number appears to follow the same pattern as other later production SB machines.  However, there is no mention of a machine bigger than 17 inch in Steve Wells' database. 

I'm certainly no expert on the subject - this is all just enjoyable speculation. 

Bernie

On 2/8/2020 2:19 PM, James Rice wrote:
It's been listed for months now.  Same price which is about the retail price quoted by South Bend/Grizzly.  It's only 15 minutes from me, I should call them and check it out.  


James

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 2:05 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:
Claims it is NOS.  Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html








Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

James Rice
 

It's been listed for months now.  Same price which is about the retail price quoted by South Bend/Grizzly.  It's only 15 minutes from me, I should call them and check it out.  


James

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 2:05 PM <bclong7@...> wrote:
Claims it is NOS.  Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html








Re: Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

Bill in OKC too
 

Pretty sure that's the "new" South Bend, made in Taiwan or wherever Grizzly's version is made. Bit big for both my shop and wallet, but their new Heavy 10 lists for $10k.

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Saturday, February 8, 2020, 02:05:41 PM CST, <bclong7@...> wrote:


Claims it is NOS.  Not involved - just passing this along....









Found on Dallas Craigslist - 27" SBL

bclong7@...
 

Claims it is NOS.  Not involved - just passing this along....

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/sadler-new-southbend-27-engine-lathe/7052505638.html


Re: stuck chuck

N Jen
 

Thank you John, I think I see my path forward now.  
Best regards and thanks,
Niels

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 6:27 PM comstock_friend <jfriend314@...> wrote:
Niels, I couldn't find a photo of my wrench and it's up at the cabin, so I grabbed this one off the 'net. Mine is hardwood and can grab pretty good. Aluminum is good also; I made some aluminum clamp blocks of the same type design (split hole) to take an Albrecht chuck apart.

John


Re: stuck chuck

comstock_friend
 

Niels, I couldn't find a photo of my wrench and it's up at the cabin, so I grabbed this one off the 'net. Mine is hardwood and can grab pretty good. Aluminum is good also; I made some aluminum clamp blocks of the same type design (split hole) to take an Albrecht chuck apart.

John

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