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Re: 1964 10K headstock cover question

Nitro
 

Correct, my casting is closed on the bottom and doesn't have the hinge/mounting bosses present in an underdrive unit.


Re: 1964 10K headstock cover question

Rogan Creswick
 

Ah, looking at your pictures again, you must have a rear-mount drive (It looks like the bottom of the headstock is visible, and that would certainly be different, if that's what I think it is.).  I don't think I can help, but let me know.


On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:29 PM Rogan Creswick via Groups.Io <creswick=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am also in the process of restoring a 10k that went through a fire...you've accomplished a lot more than I have!

I do have the guards, for mine, and I can post pictures if that's useful.  I'm unsure from your message: *is* your lathe an underdrive unit? Mine is -- which will probably make a bit of a difference here.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:49 AM Nitro <nitroburners@...> wrote:
Hi guys and gals

Winter is approaching and I hope to have the time to reassemble my 10K.
This machine didn't come with the belt/gear guard in place when I acquired it.
The headstock casting is not the same as a 9" and is not the same as the underdrive units I have seen online.




 This lathe was bench mounted when I found it, but had no guard in place at the time.
The machine was disassembled for refinishing as it had been in a fire, but didn't get hot enough to destroy it.
I probably have 200 hours or more invested in it for the teardown, disassembly and refinishing.

I used my glass bead cabinet for a lot of the cleaning, plus have my Logan 922 11 inch for some of the round polishing work.

I'm retired now with over 50 years on the shop floor, so hopefully my work does speak for itself.

Can anyone help me identify it so I can track one down?
My rebuild manual was of no help, so even a picture or so of an existing one would be helpful.


Re: 1964 10K headstock cover question

Rogan Creswick
 

I am also in the process of restoring a 10k that went through a fire...you've accomplished a lot more than I have!

I do have the guards, for mine, and I can post pictures if that's useful.  I'm unsure from your message: *is* your lathe an underdrive unit? Mine is -- which will probably make a bit of a difference here.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:49 AM Nitro <nitroburners@...> wrote:
Hi guys and gals

Winter is approaching and I hope to have the time to reassemble my 10K.
This machine didn't come with the belt/gear guard in place when I acquired it.
The headstock casting is not the same as a 9" and is not the same as the underdrive units I have seen online.




 This lathe was bench mounted when I found it, but had no guard in place at the time.
The machine was disassembled for refinishing as it had been in a fire, but didn't get hot enough to destroy it.
I probably have 200 hours or more invested in it for the teardown, disassembly and refinishing.

I used my glass bead cabinet for a lot of the cleaning, plus have my Logan 922 11 inch for some of the round polishing work.

I'm retired now with over 50 years on the shop floor, so hopefully my work does speak for itself.

Can anyone help me identify it so I can track one down?
My rebuild manual was of no help, so even a picture or so of an existing one would be helpful.


1964 10K headstock cover question

Nitro
 

Hi guys and gals

Winter is approaching and I hope to have the time to reassemble my 10K.
This machine didn't come with the belt/gear guard in place when I acquired it.
The headstock casting is not the same as a 9" and is not the same as the underdrive units I have seen online.




 This lathe was bench mounted when I found it, but had no guard in place at the time.
The machine was disassembled for refinishing as it had been in a fire, but didn't get hot enough to destroy it.
I probably have 200 hours or more invested in it for the teardown, disassembly and refinishing.

I used my glass bead cabinet for a lot of the cleaning, plus have my Logan 922 11 inch for some of the round polishing work.

I'm retired now with over 50 years on the shop floor, so hopefully my work does speak for itself.

Can anyone help me identify it so I can track one down?
My rebuild manual was of no help, so even a picture or so of an existing one would be helpful.


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

Chuck Lippmeier
 

Thanks all for your responses. It’s too bad this article is so confusing. I’m thinking now that it would be easier to just put an adjustable speed power feed on the compound and eliminate the whole problem.

Chuck Lippmeier


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

comstock_friend
 

On the 9" with factory taper attachment, the connecting bar is integral to the cross slide.

John


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

comstock_friend
 
Edited

South Bend calls the 'Cross-Feed Tailpiece' the 'connecting bar'. It's this part (at least on a 13"):

John


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

Steven H
 

Looking at the article, the author calls it the “Cross-Feed Tailpiece” in the Bill of Materials on Page 50 of the article. This is Detail 8. Then in the upper LH corner of Page 52, the drawing for Detail 8 is shown and the detail is called the “Cross-Slide Tailpiece”. So an error in editing. Drawing calls for a piece of cold rolled steel, 1/4” x 3-1/8” x 10-1/2”. I think I would use 3” wide material myself.

Steve Haskell

On Nov 4, 2019, at 6:31 PM, StevesMachining <stevesmachining@...> wrote:

I assume by the name it is the detail that gets bolted on the rear end of the upper cross slide (that would be the piece that the compound sits on)- the cross-slide tailpiece has a long slot down the center of it.

Steve Haskell

On Nov 4, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Chuck Lippmeier <chuck@...> wrote:



Group,

I bought the eBay post for the “Home Shop Machinist” 2004 Jan/Feb. edition. As I read, it refers to a “Cross-feed tailpiece” What is a “cross-slide tailpiece”?

Chuck Lippmeier

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:22 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans

 

        Steve , I ended up with a copy from another member , but thank you very much

        animal

On 10/30/2019 9:57 AM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:

Mike,

I checked my collection of HSM and happen to have the Jan/Feb 2004 issue with this taper attachment article. I don’t want to give away or sell my issue but can make copies of the pages and mail them to you. If interested, send your mailing address to me at stevesmachining@...

Steve Haskell

 



On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:09 AM, George Meinschein <bustedguns@...> wrote:



A quick Google search turned up the attached article from the January 1962 issue of Popular Mechanics.  Maybe that will work for you.

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
 
Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
Fax: 732-358-0369
www.meinscheinengineering.com

On 10/29/2019 6:36 PM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:

There is a HSM Jan/Feb 2004 issue on eBay for $9.99 plus $4 shipping.
 
Steve Haskell
 
On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:22 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
 
        I just checked the back order site at HSM lookin for he Jan/Feb 2004 issue with plans for a taper attachment for the 9 " lathe . they don't go back that far. does anyone here have a copy that they might send me ?
 
        tks
 
        animal@...
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

Jim_B
 

Sent from my MacBook
Jim B.

I would say:

The Grey part on the lower right, under the chuck, that bolts onto the saddle and covers the screw and the ways. 


On Nov 4, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Chuck Lippmeier <chuck@...> wrote:

Group,
I bought the eBay post for the “Home Shop Machinist” 2004 Jan/Feb. edition. As I read, it refers to a “Cross-feed tailpiece” What is a “cross-slide tailpiece”?
Chuck Lippmeier
 
 


--
Jim B


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

Steven H
 

I assume by the name it is the detail that gets bolted on the rear end of the upper cross slide (that would be the piece that the compound sits on)- the cross-slide tailpiece has a long slot down the center of it.

Steve Haskell

On Nov 4, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Chuck Lippmeier <chuck@...> wrote:



Group,

I bought the eBay post for the “Home Shop Machinist” 2004 Jan/Feb. edition. As I read, it refers to a “Cross-feed tailpiece” What is a “cross-slide tailpiece”?

Chuck Lippmeier

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:22 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans

 

        Steve , I ended up with a copy from another member , but thank you very much

        animal

On 10/30/2019 9:57 AM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:

Mike,

I checked my collection of HSM and happen to have the Jan/Feb 2004 issue with this taper attachment article. I don’t want to give away or sell my issue but can make copies of the pages and mail them to you. If interested, send your mailing address to me at stevesmachining@...

Steve Haskell

 



On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:09 AM, George Meinschein <bustedguns@...> wrote:



A quick Google search turned up the attached article from the January 1962 issue of Popular Mechanics.  Maybe that will work for you.

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
 
Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
Fax: 732-358-0369
www.meinscheinengineering.com

On 10/29/2019 6:36 PM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:

There is a HSM Jan/Feb 2004 issue on eBay for $9.99 plus $4 shipping.
 
Steve Haskell
 
On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:22 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
 
        I just checked the back order site at HSM lookin for he Jan/Feb 2004 issue with plans for a taper attachment for the 9 " lathe . they don't go back that far. does anyone here have a copy that they might send me ?
 
        tks
 
        animal@...
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

Chuck Lippmeier
 

Group,

I bought the eBay post for the “Home Shop Machinist” 2004 Jan/Feb. edition. As I read, it refers to a “Cross-feed tailpiece” What is a “cross-slide tailpiece”?

Chuck Lippmeier

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of mike allen
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:22 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans

 

        Steve , I ended up with a copy from another member , but thank you very much

        animal

On 10/30/2019 9:57 AM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:

Mike,

I checked my collection of HSM and happen to have the Jan/Feb 2004 issue with this taper attachment article. I don’t want to give away or sell my issue but can make copies of the pages and mail them to you. If interested, send your mailing address to me at stevesmachining@...

Steve Haskell

 



On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:09 AM, George Meinschein <bustedguns@...> wrote:



A quick Google search turned up the attached article from the January 1962 issue of Popular Mechanics.  Maybe that will work for you.

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
 
Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
Fax: 732-358-0369
www.meinscheinengineering.com

On 10/29/2019 6:36 PM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:

There is a HSM Jan/Feb 2004 issue on eBay for $9.99 plus $4 shipping.
 
Steve Haskell
 
On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:22 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
 
        I just checked the back order site at HSM lookin for he Jan/Feb 2004 issue with plans for a taper attachment for the 9 " lathe . they don't go back that far. does anyone here have a copy that they might send me ?
 
        tks
 
        animal@...
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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MAKING A TAPER ATT

william B. Mispel
 

Hi.

I don't know who is building the taper att. but I

do have three castings he may be interested in

them.

 I rebuilt my factory taper att. into a teliscoping

 taper att. several years ago. Kept the parts I wanted

to use. Kept the rest in a box.(pack rat)

 Bruce

 misltoe2@...


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

william B. Mispel
 

 I don't know who is building the taper att.But,

I have three castings he may be interested

in. I rebuilt my taper att. From a factory att

to a telescopic att. a few years ago. Pretty

much from scratch using just the parts I wanted.

Bruce

misltoe2@...

On 10/31/2019 9:22 PM, mike allen wrote:

        Steve , I ended up with a copy from another member , but thank you very much

        animal

On 10/30/2019 9:57 AM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike,
I checked my collection of HSM and happen to have the Jan/Feb 2004 issue with this taper attachment article. I don’t want to give away or sell my issue but can make copies of the pages and mail them to you. If interested, send your mailing address to me at stevesmachining@...

Steve Haskell


On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:09 AM, George Meinschein <bustedguns@...> wrote:



A quick Google search turned up the attached article from the January 1962 issue of Popular Mechanics.  Maybe that will work for you.

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
Fax: 732-358-0369
www.meinscheinengineering.com
On 10/29/2019 6:36 PM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:
There is a HSM Jan/Feb 2004 issue on eBay for $9.99 plus $4 shipping.

Steve Haskell

On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:22 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

        I just checked the back order site at HSM lookin for he Jan/Feb 2004 issue with plans for a taper attachment for the 9 " lathe . they don't go back that far. does anyone here have a copy that they might send me ?

        tks

        animal@...






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Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

william B. Mispel
 

  HI, Whoever is building the taper att.

I have three main castings you may like

to have.

I rebuilt my taper att. a few years ago into a

teliscoping att.

Bruce

Misltoe2@...

On 10/31/2019 9:22 PM, mike allen wrote:

        Steve , I ended up with a copy from another member , but thank you very much

        animal

On 10/30/2019 9:57 AM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike,
I checked my collection of HSM and happen to have the Jan/Feb 2004 issue with this taper attachment article. I don’t want to give away or sell my issue but can make copies of the pages and mail them to you. If interested, send your mailing address to me at stevesmachining@...

Steve Haskell


On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:09 AM, George Meinschein <bustedguns@...> wrote:



A quick Google search turned up the attached article from the January 1962 issue of Popular Mechanics.  Maybe that will work for you.

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
Fax: 732-358-0369
www.meinscheinengineering.com
On 10/29/2019 6:36 PM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:
There is a HSM Jan/Feb 2004 issue on eBay for $9.99 plus $4 shipping.

Steve Haskell

On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:22 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

        I just checked the back order site at HSM lookin for he Jan/Feb 2004 issue with plans for a taper attachment for the 9 " lathe . they don't go back that far. does anyone here have a copy that they might send me ?

        tks

        animal@...






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Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

mike allen
 

        Steve , I ended up with a copy from another member , but thank you very much

        animal

On 10/30/2019 9:57 AM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike,
I checked my collection of HSM and happen to have the Jan/Feb 2004 issue with this taper attachment article. I don’t want to give away or sell my issue but can make copies of the pages and mail them to you. If interested, send your mailing address to me at stevesmachining@...

Steve Haskell


On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:09 AM, George Meinschein <bustedguns@...> wrote:



A quick Google search turned up the attached article from the January 1962 issue of Popular Mechanics.  Maybe that will work for you.

Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.

Meinschein Engineering Consultants, LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728-1500
Direct Dial: 732-409-0778
Cell: 732-580-1736
Fax: 732-358-0369
www.meinscheinengineering.com
On 10/29/2019 6:36 PM, Steven H via Groups.Io wrote:
There is a HSM Jan/Feb 2004 issue on eBay for $9.99 plus $4 shipping.

Steve Haskell

On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:22 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

        I just checked the back order site at HSM lookin for he Jan/Feb 2004 issue with plans for a taper attachment for the 9 " lathe . they don't go back that far. does anyone here have a copy that they might send me ?

        tks

        animal@...






            

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Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

Guenther Paul
 

His full name is George Bullis

GP


On Thursday, October 31, 2019, 5:41:52 PM EDT, Steven H via Groups.Io <stevesmachining@...> wrote:


Original poster stated in his original post that the particular HSM back issue was no longer available. 

Rules are made to be broken, people cheat on their income taxes all the time, still wrong, but they do it anyway.

Regards,
Steven R. Haskell


-----Original Message-----
From: John Dammeyer <johnd@...>
To: SouthBendLathe <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans

Has anyone actually contacted Home Shop Machinist and asked about purchasing either a PDF or a back issue?  As long as they would be willing to provide it, copying it and sending it to someone is still wrong.
 
John
 
 
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of comstock_friend
Sent: October-31-19 1:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans
 
Yes, the Home Shop Machinist article would have a very active copyright! I have scanned it, but file is 18MB (I guess I could do it again at lower resolution). PM me and I can send it. My Canon 9000 scanner will keep all the pdf pages in one doc. Free pdfill http://www.pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html will also do the same....

John


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

Guenther Paul
 

George of Homeshopmachinist may not reply, in my opinion he only reply's when there is something in it for him. Maybe a moderator can call him at the village press in traverscity,Mi  

GP


On Thursday, October 31, 2019, 5:41:52 PM EDT, Steven H via Groups.Io <stevesmachining@...> wrote:


Original poster stated in his original post that the particular HSM back issue was no longer available. 

Rules are made to be broken, people cheat on their income taxes all the time, still wrong, but they do it anyway.

Regards,
Steven R. Haskell


-----Original Message-----
From: John Dammeyer <johnd@...>
To: SouthBendLathe <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans

Has anyone actually contacted Home Shop Machinist and asked about purchasing either a PDF or a back issue?  As long as they would be willing to provide it, copying it and sending it to someone is still wrong.
 
John
 
 
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of comstock_friend
Sent: October-31-19 1:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans
 
Yes, the Home Shop Machinist article would have a very active copyright! I have scanned it, but file is 18MB (I guess I could do it again at lower resolution). PM me and I can send it. My Canon 9000 scanner will keep all the pdf pages in one doc. Free pdfill http://www.pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html will also do the same....

John


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

William Brown
 


I would like a copy of the plans if possible. 


On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 5:41 PM Steven H via Groups.Io <stevesmachining=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Original poster stated in his original post that the particular HSM back issue was no longer available. 

Rules are made to be broken, people cheat on their income taxes all the time, still wrong, but they do it anyway.

Regards,
Steven R. Haskell    


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

Steven H
 

Original poster stated in his original post that the particular HSM back issue was no longer available. 

Rules are made to be broken, people cheat on their income taxes all the time, still wrong, but they do it anyway.

Regards,
Steven R. Haskell


-----Original Message-----
From: John Dammeyer <johnd@...>
To: SouthBendLathe <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans

Has anyone actually contacted Home Shop Machinist and asked about purchasing either a PDF or a back issue?  As long as they would be willing to provide it, copying it and sending it to someone is still wrong.
 
John
 
 
From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of comstock_friend
Sent: October-31-19 1:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans
 
Yes, the Home Shop Machinist article would have a very active copyright! I have scanned it, but file is 18MB (I guess I could do it again at lower resolution). PM me and I can send it. My Canon 9000 scanner will keep all the pdf pages in one doc. Free pdfill http://www.pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html will also do the same....

John


Re: 9" Taper attachment plans

John Dammeyer
 

Has anyone actually contacted Home Shop Machinist and asked about purchasing either a PDF or a back issue?  As long as they would be willing to provide it, copying it and sending it to someone is still wrong.

 

John

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of comstock_friend
Sent: October-31-19 1:23 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9" Taper attachment plans

 

Yes, the Home Shop Machinist article would have a very active copyright! I have scanned it, but file is 18MB (I guess I could do it again at lower resolution). PM me and I can send it. My Canon 9000 scanner will keep all the pdf pages in one doc. Free pdfill http://www.pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html will also do the same....

John

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