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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

John Dammeyer
 

I hope someday that I'll be able to turn out work as nice as that.

John

 

 

From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io [mailto:SouthBendLathe@groups.io] On Behalf Of carbure2003
Sent: September-14-19 6:29 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram

 

For the benefit of the audience following this thread, here are pictures of the bushing assembly for large dial 9 and 10K

 

On the first picture you will see the thrust bearing just left of the thread. You will note 5e thrust washers as well as the thrust bearing cage. On the right side, there is a cross pin that holds a sleeve against the thrust bearing located inside the bushing assembly.

 

second picture shows the sleeve removed as well as the thrust bearing.

 

for a unit never taken apart, the cross pin may be invisible, you need to look carefully. Sleeve is quite likely 12L14 steel.

 

i manufactured at least 2 units for large dial upgrades.

THe last one, I made a near 2" diameter dial 200 divisions, really easy to read.

lathe headstock was used as a dividing head

On last picture, you will see on the left a near 2" dial, in the middle, a 1 3/4" standard satin finish SB large dial and on the right the original small dial.

ideally, you will need a second lathe in order to do the upgrade as the cross feed screw needs to be extended.  My upgrades involved some silver solder for the extension.

 

Guy Cadrin


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 03:31:35 +0000

Thanks.  That is very helpful.  Not exactly the same by any means, but very helpful. 

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:15 PM, sblatheman via Groups.Io wrote:

 

http://www.wswells.com/data/parts/1934-Bltn-No19A/album/slides/scan%20(10).html

Ted


On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

 



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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Jim_B
 

iPhone with Safari. 
Pictures attached. 

-8
Jim B,

On Sep 14, 2019, at 11:13 PM, carbure2003 <guycad@...> wrote:

I received the post with pictures. Your mail system may have filtered them
 
 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Steven H via Groups.Io" <stevesmachining@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 21:59:43 -0400

Photos?

Steve Haskell
 

On Sep 14, 2019, at 9:29 PM, carbure2003 <guycad@...> wrote:

For the benefit of the audience following this thread, here are pictures of the bushing assembly for large dial 9 and 10K
 
On the first picture you will see the thrust bearing just left of the thread. You will note 5e thrust washers as well as the thrust bearing cage. On the right side, there is a cross pin that holds a sleeve against the thrust bearing located inside the bushing assembly.
 
second picture shows the sleeve removed as well as the thrust bearing.
 
for a unit never taken apart, the cross pin may be invisible, you need to look carefully. Sleeve is quite likely 12L14 steel.
 
i manufactured at least 2 units for large dial upgrades.
THe last one, I made a near 2" diameter dial 200 divisions, really easy to read.
lathe headstock was used as a dividing head
On last picture, you will see on the left a near 2" dial, in the middle, a 1 3/4" standard satin finish SB large dial and on the right the original small dial.
ideally, you will need a second lathe in order to do the upgrade as the cross feed screw needs to be extended.  My upgrades involved some silver solder for the extension.
 
Guy Cadrin

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 03:31:35 +0000

 

Thanks.  That is very helpful.  Not exactly the same by any means, but very helpful. 

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:15 PM, sblatheman via Groups.Io wrote:
 
http://www.wswells.com/data/parts/1934-Bltn-No19A/album/slides/scan%20(10).html

Ted

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:
Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

 



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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

carbure2003
 

I received the post with pictures. Your mail system may have filtered them
 
 

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Steven H via Groups.Io" <stevesmachining@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 21:59:43 -0400

Photos?

Steve Haskell
 

On Sep 14, 2019, at 9:29 PM, carbure2003 <guycad@...> wrote:

For the benefit of the audience following this thread, here are pictures of the bushing assembly for large dial 9 and 10K
 
On the first picture you will see the thrust bearing just left of the thread. You will note 5e thrust washers as well as the thrust bearing cage. On the right side, there is a cross pin that holds a sleeve against the thrust bearing located inside the bushing assembly.
 
second picture shows the sleeve removed as well as the thrust bearing.
 
for a unit never taken apart, the cross pin may be invisible, you need to look carefully. Sleeve is quite likely 12L14 steel.
 
i manufactured at least 2 units for large dial upgrades.
THe last one, I made a near 2" diameter dial 200 divisions, really easy to read.
lathe headstock was used as a dividing head
On last picture, you will see on the left a near 2" dial, in the middle, a 1 3/4" standard satin finish SB large dial and on the right the original small dial.
ideally, you will need a second lathe in order to do the upgrade as the cross feed screw needs to be extended.  My upgrades involved some silver solder for the extension.
 
Guy Cadrin

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 03:31:35 +0000

 

Thanks.  That is very helpful.  Not exactly the same by any means, but very helpful. 

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:15 PM, sblatheman via Groups.Io wrote:
 
http://www.wswells.com/data/parts/1934-Bltn-No19A/album/slides/scan%20(10).html

Ted

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:
Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

 



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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Bill in OKC too
 


They were there as attachments on the email you replied to, at least in my inbox. I used the current version of Firefox.

HTH!

Bill in OKC

On Saturday, September 14, 2019, 8:59:55 PM CDT, Steven H via Groups.Io <stevesmachining@...> wrote:


Photos?

Steve Haskell

On Sep 14, 2019, at 9:29 PM, carbure2003 <guycad@...> wrote:

For the benefit of the audience following this thread, here are pictures of the bushing assembly for large dial 9 and 10K
 
On the first picture you will see the thrust bearing just left of the thread. You will note 5e thrust washers as well as the thrust bearing cage. On the right side, there is a cross pin that holds a sleeve against the thrust bearing located inside the bushing assembly.
 
second picture shows the sleeve removed as well as the thrust bearing.
 
for a unit never taken apart, the cross pin may be invisible, you need to look carefully. Sleeve is quite likely 12L14 steel.
 
i manufactured at least 2 units for large dial upgrades.
THe last one, I made a near 2" diameter dial 200 divisions, really easy to read.
lathe headstock was used as a dividing head
On last picture, you will see on the left a near 2" dial, in the middle, a 1 3/4" standard satin finish SB large dial and on the right the original small dial.
ideally, you will need a second lathe in order to do the upgrade as the cross feed screw needs to be extended.  My upgrades involved some silver solder for the extension.
 
Guy Cadrin

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 03:31:35 +0000

Thanks.  That is very helpful.  Not exactly the same by any means, but very helpful. 

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:15 PM, sblatheman via Groups.Io wrote:
 
http://www.wswells.com/data/parts/1934-Bltn-No19A/album/slides/scan%20(10).html

Ted

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:
Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

 



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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Steven H
 

Photos?

Steve Haskell

On Sep 14, 2019, at 9:29 PM, carbure2003 <guycad@...> wrote:

For the benefit of the audience following this thread, here are pictures of the bushing assembly for large dial 9 and 10K
 
On the first picture you will see the thrust bearing just left of the thread. You will note 5e thrust washers as well as the thrust bearing cage. On the right side, there is a cross pin that holds a sleeve against the thrust bearing located inside the bushing assembly.
 
second picture shows the sleeve removed as well as the thrust bearing.
 
for a unit never taken apart, the cross pin may be invisible, you need to look carefully. Sleeve is quite likely 12L14 steel.
 
i manufactured at least 2 units for large dial upgrades.
THe last one, I made a near 2" diameter dial 200 divisions, really easy to read.
lathe headstock was used as a dividing head
On last picture, you will see on the left a near 2" dial, in the middle, a 1 3/4" standard satin finish SB large dial and on the right the original small dial.
ideally, you will need a second lathe in order to do the upgrade as the cross feed screw needs to be extended.  My upgrades involved some silver solder for the extension.
 
Guy Cadrin

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 03:31:35 +0000

Thanks.  That is very helpful.  Not exactly the same by any means, but very helpful. 

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:15 PM, sblatheman via Groups.Io wrote:
 
http://www.wswells.com/data/parts/1934-Bltn-No19A/album/slides/scan%20(10).html

Ted

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:
Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

 



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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

carbure2003
 

For the benefit of the audience following this thread, here are pictures of the bushing assembly for large dial 9 and 10K
 
On the first picture you will see the thrust bearing just left of the thread. You will note 5e thrust washers as well as the thrust bearing cage. On the right side, there is a cross pin that holds a sleeve against the thrust bearing located inside the bushing assembly.
 
second picture shows the sleeve removed as well as the thrust bearing.
 
for a unit never taken apart, the cross pin may be invisible, you need to look carefully. Sleeve is quite likely 12L14 steel.
 
i manufactured at least 2 units for large dial upgrades.
THe last one, I made a near 2" diameter dial 200 divisions, really easy to read.
lathe headstock was used as a dividing head
On last picture, you will see on the left a near 2" dial, in the middle, a 1 3/4" standard satin finish SB large dial and on the right the original small dial.
ideally, you will need a second lathe in order to do the upgrade as the cross feed screw needs to be extended.  My upgrades involved some silver solder for the extension.
 
Guy Cadrin

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 03:31:35 +0000

Thanks.  That is very helpful.  Not exactly the same by any means, but very helpful. 

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:15 PM, sblatheman via Groups.Io wrote:
 
http://www.wswells.com/data/parts/1934-Bltn-No19A/album/slides/scan%20(10).html

Ted

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:
Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

 



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Re: 1920's 16" SB gap bed

Jim_B
 

Good afternoon Edwin.
Welcome to the group. 
There are a couple of members that have some knowledge of the older laths. 
You may wish to visit:


Steve Wells maintains a sore with SB catalogs that go back to 1912. Perhaps you can find your lathe there. 
SB Gap bed lathes are not common. So its a nice acquisition. 

The later SB lathes have a proprietary taper in their headstock. I an unaware IF yours has that one. The SB taper has the same taper RATE as a MT3 BUT the large end is 1.629 inches for 10” and up. The 9” lathes have a large end of 0.938
Most of the later lathes rely on an adapter to fit. Miller Machine and Tooling can supply adapters for these. 

The later 10” lathes have a spindle thread of 2-1/4-8, the later 14”-1/2” lathes with large collets, have a thread of 2-3/8-6 But I would go withwhat you measure. 

Sent from my MacBook
Jim B.




On Sep 14, 2019, at 11:24 AM, edwins63 via Groups.Io <edwins63@...> wrote:

I am now the proud owner of yet another one of my grandfather's lathes. This one is a 16" gap-bed, s/n G25032, which dates it to about 1922. 
Long story short, I remember grandpa having several lathes, but 2 stand out most in my memory. A 10" Sheldon (which I have) and a huge (remember I was about 16 at the time) gap-bed lathe behind it that I helped grandpa once do a job on. I now have both of them, the south bend was a year and a half process to get to the house as it was a 15-hour one way trip. Originally I was under the impression that the 'big lathe' was an American Tool Works lathe from about the same era. My dad was rather surprised when he got access to the machine and it turned out to be a south bend. Apparently there were 2 lathes that grandpa picked up, similar size, but the ATW was incomplete. Somewhere along the line, in the 20 years or so it sat in storage, the memory of the lathes got mixed up. I do have some of the parts to the ATW lathe, looks as though grandpa adapted some to fit the SB. The main things I see right now are the steady rest - with an adapter to fit the SB (my uncle used it as well, says it works fine), and some of the change gears. The gears seem to mesh together quite well (I'll have to clean them to make sure), but does anyone here know if the ATW gears are compatible with the SB?
Right now the lathe is in pieces and really needs to be cleaned as there is 100-year old swarf, oil, grease and whatever else grime on it. However, here are some questions I have right now:
- Does anyone here have a similar year lathe? The controls, while transposed for the gap, are different than my Sheldon and the later SBs that I have used. I think I have an idea of how the feeds on the apron work, but I'm not totally sure.
- I know that many larger lathes have a crane arrangement for the chucks. Does anyone here have one? Where did you find it or did you make one? These chucks for the 16" are way bigger and heavier than for the 10" and I'm not getting any younger....
- So far I have not found an adapter sleeve for a center in the headstock. My understanding is that these are a #3 MT, but its a "big" #3 MT, actually a SB thing. Is there a place (probably ebay...?) where I could find this animal?
- The spindle thread (I thought) was supposed to be 2 3/8 - 6, but I've measured it 3 times and I've found it to be 2 3/8 - 8. Anyone ever heard of this one? The spindle also sticks out quite a ways, almost 3", as though there was some other chuck-holding arrangement and then it was changed. Almost like the Long Taper arrangement I remember on a later SB. When did the Long Taper first come out? Or, did someone replace the spindle? When I talked to my uncle he had no idea. He was there when grandpa picked up the machine and doesn't remember any about the spindle (though that was the late 70s...). Guess its not that huge of a deal, between all of the lathes I can make adapters, its just kinda odd..... 
Thats about all I can think of right now, I'm sure I'll come up with more questions as I dig into the lathe (and get the time to do it).
Thanks
Edwin


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1920's 16" SB gap bed

edwins63@...
 

I am now the proud owner of yet another one of my grandfather's lathes. This one is a 16" gap-bed, s/n G25032, which dates it to about 1922. 
Long story short, I remember grandpa having several lathes, but 2 stand out most in my memory. A 10" Sheldon (which I have) and a huge (remember I was about 16 at the time) gap-bed lathe behind it that I helped grandpa once do a job on. I now have both of them, the south bend was a year and a half process to get to the house as it was a 15-hour one way trip. Originally I was under the impression that the 'big lathe' was an American Tool Works lathe from about the same era. My dad was rather surprised when he got access to the machine and it turned out to be a south bend. Apparently there were 2 lathes that grandpa picked up, similar size, but the ATW was incomplete. Somewhere along the line, in the 20 years or so it sat in storage, the memory of the lathes got mixed up. I do have some of the parts to the ATW lathe, looks as though grandpa adapted some to fit the SB. The main things I see right now are the steady rest - with an adapter to fit the SB (my uncle used it as well, says it works fine), and some of the change gears. The gears seem to mesh together quite well (I'll have to clean them to make sure), but does anyone here know if the ATW gears are compatible with the SB?
Right now the lathe is in pieces and really needs to be cleaned as there is 100-year old swarf, oil, grease and whatever else grime on it. However, here are some questions I have right now:
- Does anyone here have a similar year lathe? The controls, while transposed for the gap, are different than my Sheldon and the later SBs that I have used. I think I have an idea of how the feeds on the apron work, but I'm not totally sure.
- I know that many larger lathes have a crane arrangement for the chucks. Does anyone here have one? Where did you find it or did you make one? These chucks for the 16" are way bigger and heavier than for the 10" and I'm not getting any younger....
- So far I have not found an adapter sleeve for a center in the headstock. My understanding is that these are a #3 MT, but its a "big" #3 MT, actually a SB thing. Is there a place (probably ebay...?) where I could find this animal?
- The spindle thread (I thought) was supposed to be 2 3/8 - 6, but I've measured it 3 times and I've found it to be 2 3/8 - 8. Anyone ever heard of this one? The spindle also sticks out quite a ways, almost 3", as though there was some other chuck-holding arrangement and then it was changed. Almost like the Long Taper arrangement I remember on a later SB. When did the Long Taper first come out? Or, did someone replace the spindle? When I talked to my uncle he had no idea. He was there when grandpa picked up the machine and doesn't remember any about the spindle (though that was the late 70s...). Guess its not that huge of a deal, between all of the lathes I can make adapters, its just kinda odd..... 
Thats about all I can think of right now, I'm sure I'll come up with more questions as I dig into the lathe (and get the time to do it).
Thanks
Edwin


Re: Large Dial for Your Lathe - DRO instead!

carbure2003
 

Here is the DRO setup on my 10K.
 
Two little mounting screws required . I drilled and tapped 6-32 holes in the bed casting to hold the ruler. The reading head is mounted directly on the saddle using existing bolt holes as seen on the picture.  The display is. Mounted on the taper attachment.
 


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From: "amriensr via Groups.Io" <amriensr@...>
To: <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Large Dial for Your Lathe - DRO instead!
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 13:24:50 +0000 (UTC)

 
I'd like to have a look at how you did the DRO's on your Heavy Ten. So far I only them on the carriage, and tail stock.
Thanks
Anthony
 
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On Sep 13, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

DROs would be nice.  I have DROs on my mills, and now that I have a Monarch 10EE, it has (came to me with) Newall DROs on two axes.  Very sweet.  I never look at the dials for anything but the compound now.  Maybe at a later time. 

Right now, we are just trying to get the cross slide screw repaired.  Whether he uses the dials or a DRO, still requires a functioning feed screw. 

Rick
 


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Re: Large Dial for Your Lathe - DRO instead!

amriensr
 

I'd like to have a look at how you did the DRO's on your Heavy Ten. So far I only them on the carriage, and tail stock.
Thanks
Anthony

On Friday, September 13, 2019, 10:40:19 PM EDT, Steve Yasgur <steve@...> wrote:


Yeah . . . I’m screwed . . . with any luck . . .




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On Sep 13, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

DROs would be nice.  I have DROs on my mills, and now that I have a Monarch 10EE, it has (came to me with) Newall DROs on two axes.  Very sweet.  I never look at the dials for anything but the compound now.  Maybe at a later time. 

Right now, we are just trying to get the cross slide screw repaired.  Whether he uses the dials or a DRO, still requires a functioning feed screw. 

Rick


Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Rick Kruger
 

Great.  Thanks. 

On 9/13/2019 8:39 PM, Jim_B via Groups.Io wrote:
The bearings you need are from Boston Gear. 
They sell through distributors. 
MSC is one of many. 
Look at their site and catalog for others. 
I may have a set. 


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Jim B,

On Sep 13, 2019, at 11:23 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

Excellent.  Thanks.  That is what I was hoping to find.  I am pleased to see the write-up on the conversion to remove the slop, using two thrust bearings.  That is exactly what I was trying to do.  I also found info in the PDF doc in the files section:

"CONVERTING A SOUTH BEND HEAVY 10 SMALL DIAL CROSSFEED
TO BALL/ROLLER BEARING TO REMOVE AXIAL PLAY"

The ball thrust bearings I found online have a much larger OD, (0.8125"), so I'll be looking for the smaller ones referenced. 

Turns out the threads on "threaded sleeve" (Steve and I have been calling it a bushing, but I knew that wasn't quite right) on Steve's lathe are different - 3/4"-18.  The ID of those threads in the cross slide casting (or saddle - I'm not sure as I don't have that stuff to look at directly) also seems to be larger than the thread specs suggest.  They are 0.731", so the old thrust bearings I have would fit.  If I can find new ones, I'll get and use them. 

Thanks.

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:11 PM, carbure2003 via Groups.Io wrote:
SB 9A and 10K with large dials have two thrust bearings within the assembly. THe original is no longer available. I found substitutes that are slightly thicker. The part number I have is 
AKL.FT10-HLG#E
 
If I recall, inside diameter is 3/8, external diameter, 0.68" (has to fit in a 3/4-NF16)
when I replaced the bearings, I compensated the thickness by thinning the shoulder on the gear assembly on the screw.
 
Guy Cadrin

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 18:54:48 -0700

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Jim_B
 

The bearings you need are from Boston Gear. 
They sell through distributors. 
MSC is one of many. 
Look at their site and catalog for others. 
I may have a set. 


-8
Jim B,

On Sep 13, 2019, at 11:23 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

Excellent.  Thanks.  That is what I was hoping to find.  I am pleased to see the write-up on the conversion to remove the slop, using two thrust bearings.  That is exactly what I was trying to do.  I also found info in the PDF doc in the files section:

"CONVERTING A SOUTH BEND HEAVY 10 SMALL DIAL CROSSFEED
TO BALL/ROLLER BEARING TO REMOVE AXIAL PLAY"

The ball thrust bearings I found online have a much larger OD, (0.8125"), so I'll be looking for the smaller ones referenced. 

Turns out the threads on "threaded sleeve" (Steve and I have been calling it a bushing, but I knew that wasn't quite right) on Steve's lathe are different - 3/4"-18.  The ID of those threads in the cross slide casting (or saddle - I'm not sure as I don't have that stuff to look at directly) also seems to be larger than the thread specs suggest.  They are 0.731", so the old thrust bearings I have would fit.  If I can find new ones, I'll get and use them. 

Thanks.

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:11 PM, carbure2003 via Groups.Io wrote:
SB 9A and 10K with large dials have two thrust bearings within the assembly. THe original is no longer available. I found substitutes that are slightly thicker. The part number I have is 
AKL.FT10-HLG#E
 
If I recall, inside diameter is 3/8, external diameter, 0.68" (has to fit in a 3/4-NF16)
when I replaced the bearings, I compensated the thickness by thinning the shoulder on the gear assembly on the screw.
 
Guy Cadrin

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 18:54:48 -0700

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Rick Kruger
 

Thanks.  That is very helpful.  Not exactly the same by any means, but very helpful. 

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:15 PM, sblatheman via Groups.Io wrote:
http://www.wswells.com/data/parts/1934-Bltn-No19A/album/slides/scan%20(10).html

Ted

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick


Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Rick Kruger
 

Excellent.  Thanks.  That is what I was hoping to find.  I am pleased to see the write-up on the conversion to remove the slop, using two thrust bearings.  That is exactly what I was trying to do.  I also found info in the PDF doc in the files section:

"CONVERTING A SOUTH BEND HEAVY 10 SMALL DIAL CROSSFEED
TO BALL/ROLLER BEARING TO REMOVE AXIAL PLAY"

The ball thrust bearings I found online have a much larger OD, (0.8125"), so I'll be looking for the smaller ones referenced. 

Turns out the threads on "threaded sleeve" (Steve and I have been calling it a bushing, but I knew that wasn't quite right) on Steve's lathe are different - 3/4"-18.  The ID of those threads in the cross slide casting (or saddle - I'm not sure as I don't have that stuff to look at directly) also seems to be larger than the thread specs suggest.  They are 0.731", so the old thrust bearings I have would fit.  If I can find new ones, I'll get and use them. 

Thanks.

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:11 PM, carbure2003 via Groups.Io wrote:
SB 9A and 10K with large dials have two thrust bearings within the assembly. THe original is no longer available. I found substitutes that are slightly thicker. The part number I have is 
AKL.FT10-HLG#E
 
If I recall, inside diameter is 3/8, external diameter, 0.68" (has to fit in a 3/4-NF16)
when I replaced the bearings, I compensated the thickness by thinning the shoulder on the gear assembly on the screw.
 
Guy Cadrin

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 18:54:48 -0700

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

sblatheman
 

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick


Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

carbure2003
 

SB 9A and 10K with large dials have two thrust bearings within the assembly. THe original is no longer available. I found substitutes that are slightly thicker. The part number I have is 
AKL.FT10-HLG#E
 
If I recall, inside diameter is 3/8, external diameter, 0.68" (has to fit in a 3/4-NF16)
when I replaced the bearings, I compensated the thickness by thinning the shoulder on the gear assembly on the screw.
 
Guy Cadrin


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick Kruger" <krugerr@...>
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Exploded Parts Diagram
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 18:54:48 -0700

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick



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Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Rick Kruger
 

Jim,

I looked, but didn't find what I was looking for.  I did download the two that I found about large dials and will examine them in more detail soon.  I believe I have the Army Manual already and will look at it too. 

Not surprised about the lack of documentation on older lathes. 

Thanks,

Rick

On 9/13/2019 8:00 PM, Jim_B via Groups.Io wrote:
Also exploded drawings of Workshop 9” / Light 10 should be there. 
ARMY Lathe Manual. 
Almost no documentation on older lathes. 

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Jim B,

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

--
Jim B


Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Jim_B
 

Also exploded drawings of Workshop 9” / Light 10 should be there. 
ARMY Lathe Manual. 
Almost no documentation on older lathes. 

-8
Jim B,

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

--
Jim B


Re: Exploded Parts Diagram

Jim_B
 

In the files section of this group, and I must admit I have spent no time there, should be several How to’s on installing thrust bearings on 9” Workshop and heavy 10. 
They were on the old group. 
If you cannot find them let me know. 
There should be two thrust bearings. 


-8
Jim B,

On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

Still helping Steve Yaz with his cross slide screw repair.  I have a large dial that came off a SB 9" that appears to have had thrust bearings.  Is there just one set of these bearings per assembly?  Steve's lathe does NOT have any thrust bearings in the dial/screw assembly. 

Can anyone point me to exploded parts diagrams or other drawings showing these cross slide screw assemblies, please?  One such drawing for the more recent 9" lathes and one for his era of 9" would be ideal. 

Thanks,

Rick

--
Jim B


Re: Large Dial for Your Lathe - DRO instead!

Steve Yasgur
 

Yeah . . . I’m screwed . . . with any luck . . .




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Thank you.

On Sep 13, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Rick Kruger <krugerr@...> wrote:

DROs would be nice.  I have DROs on my mills, and now that I have a Monarch 10EE, it has (came to me with) Newall DROs on two axes.  Very sweet.  I never look at the dials for anything but the compound now.  Maybe at a later time. 

Right now, we are just trying to get the cross slide screw repaired.  Whether he uses the dials or a DRO, still requires a functioning feed screw. 

Rick

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