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Re: StateCollage Crosslide - MLA

comstock_friend
 

By the way guys, "StateCollage Crosslide" is really Metal Lathe Accessories or MLA CROSS SLIDE (S-4382). While they have a 'collage' of machine parts to build, the web home page is:

http://www.statecollegecentral.com/metallathe/index.html

John


Re: Drive belt queston

Oren
 

I wondered if I was unique in this. I couldn’t find the “correct” belt locally and I had my Acura timing belt changed. I figured I would just use that until I found a “proper “ belt, lacing it with 100# test nylon fishing line...that was a year ago and it’s still running fine. I have plenty more line if the lacing breaks, and it takes less than 5 minutes to replace. The Acura timing belt is long enough to make two lathe drive belts. It runs silently with no click.

On May 28, 2018, at 6:54 PM, carbure2003 <guycad@...> wrote:

Serpentine belts are just wonderful. THey have much more grip than leather belt.
In my case, UMD drive, I took my old alternator belt out of my Toyota Matrix and cut it to lenght.

One lathe, I laced with nylon twine and it has done the job for at least 3 years until I had to remove the lathe from its cabinet for maintenance. It runs without noise.

On my other SB, I have used clips for belt clippers on leather belts. It seems to do the job. On one side, clips just fit in the v groove. AT the other end, i removed the V e clips. Almost no noise. I will see if it lasts.

For rear drive machines, find the proper continuous belt.

Attached is the picture of the belt clips on the serpentine belt as well as belt lacing

Guy Cadrin
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To: "SouthBendLathe@groups.io" <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Drive belt queston
Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 01:13:07 +0000 (UTC)


I hear if the serpentine belt gets oils its all over ?Alec Ryals
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Re: 10k reversing gears

rlm_mcv
 

Thanks for that post.  People sometimes forget the reason shop tools were manufactured in the 1st place and become concerned more about what color to paint it, so it can be a display item.  When you could get it any color you wanted it back in the day with a special order, making correct color a mute point.

On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 6:22:09 PM CDT, klewan70@... <klewan70@...> wrote:


You got a lathe, bush the gear; that's the expensive bit. Then either grind the existing shaft or buy one off ebay. Or make a new shaft. I just looked at my 9A and it's just an inch long shaft with a threaded hole to lock it in place. You can do that!

I'm retired, so got more time than money at the moment, so I make stuff. I need a trailer hitch, new it's $140, I got the welding and cutting stuff to modify another hitch, that's a couple of bucks for rods and gas....


Re: 10k reversing gears

carbure2003
 

9a and 10K reversing gears are the same, but the holding bolt is manufactured slightly differently, for lubrication. You can manufacture the bolt and bush the gear, basic machining job. On my atlas lathe, I replaced the reversing gears that were worn out about 20 years ago. I have them mounted on ball bearings. It could be an option for you as well.

On my side, I replaced one reversing gear with a delrin gear on my 10K in order to reduce noise off the gear train, and manufactured a 80T idler gear out of plastic material as well. End result is a significant noise reduction coming out of the gear train. I had the chance to get a few free gear cutters 20 and 18 DP.

I plan on doing same hing on my 9A as well.

Modern option: find somebody with a 3D printer and get a 32T gear printed.

Guy Cadrin

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From: klewan70@...
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 10k reversing gears
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 10:41:00 -0700

You got a lathe, bush the gear; that's the expensive bit. Then either grind the existing shaft or buy one off ebay. Or make a new shaft. I just looked at my 9A and it's just an inch long shaft with a threaded hole to lock it in place. You can do that!

I'm retired, so got more time than money at the moment, so I make stuff. I need a trailer hitch, new it's $140, I got the welding and cutting stuff to modify another hitch, that's a couple of bucks for rods and gas....

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Re: ADV: Re: ADV: Re: [SouthBendLathe] StateCollage Crosslide

klewan70@...
 

That's one of the rare females posting to a machining forum; of course she can use and post about any machine she wants. Guys, not so much. They have to use and post about genuine 'merikan iron; no asian allowed. lol.


Re: 10k reversing gears

klewan70@...
 

You got a lathe, bush the gear; that's the expensive bit. Then either grind the existing shaft or buy one off ebay. Or make a new shaft. I just looked at my 9A and it's just an inch long shaft with a threaded hole to lock it in place. You can do that!

I'm retired, so got more time than money at the moment, so I make stuff. I need a trailer hitch, new it's $140, I got the welding and cutting stuff to modify another hitch, that's a couple of bucks for rods and gas....


Re: 10k reversing gears

m. allan noah
 

Since the earlier model 5 lathes don't have a reverse tumbler, you
don't have to worry much about about parts interchange there :)

allan

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Roger Bickers via Groups.Io
<mr.concrete1964=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Glenns absolutely correct. About the only thing that will interchange
between the two generations of lathes are some hardware screws. If any
questions arise, ask questions and include a picture of your headstock for
comparison.



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S9+.

-------- Original message --------
From: glenn brooks <brooks.glenn@...>
Date: 5/30/18 2:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 10k reversing gears

Probably the only caveat is that SB 9”lathes made prior to 1934or
thereabouts have a different design for the bed, carriage, etc, than the
famous SB 9 A,B, and C models. Many/most parts do not interchange between
the early day machines and the latter production run. So, perhaps sort out
the build dates for any parts you might be looking at, to insure
compatibility.

Glenn


On May 29, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Jim_B <@Jim_B> wrote:

Look at the Army manual.
The gears carry part numbers ending in nk signifying they are the same for
both the 9” Workshop (n) and the 10K (k). The screws are not nk.
Why?
But there is a version of the rocker, the A version, that works for both.
My guess is maybe.

-8
Jim B,

On May 29, 2018, at 6:52 PM, William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:

One of my twin reversing gears has become very loose on its shaft. It
appears that the hardened shaft for that gear has become buggered up by a
piece of swarf that in turn has worn the bore on the gear. I need both.
Would the gear and bolt off of the 9" reversing gear set work? I could bush
the gear and grind the axel but I would like it to keep it to stock sizes. I
see some of the older reversing gear sets on EBay and will get one of these
if you guys say the parts are the same. Thanks.



--
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of my hand"


Re: 10k reversing gears

Roger Bickers
 

Glenns absolutely correct. About the only thing that will interchange between the two generations of lathes are some hardware screws. If any questions arise, ask questions and include a picture of your headstock for comparison. 



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-------- Original message --------
From: glenn brooks <brooks.glenn@...>
Date: 5/30/18 2:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 10k reversing gears

Probably the only caveat is that SB 9”lathes made prior to 1934or thereabouts   have a different design for the bed, carriage, etc, than the famous SB 9 A,B, and C models.  Many/most parts do not interchange between the early day machines and the latter production run.  So, perhaps sort out the build dates for any parts you might be looking at, to insure compatibility.

Glenn 


On May 29, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Jim_B <jim@...> wrote:

Look at the Army manual. 
The gears carry part numbers ending in nk signifying they are the same for both the 9” Workshop (n) and the 10K (k). The screws are not nk.
Why?
But there is a version of the rocker, the A version, that works for both. 
My guess is maybe. 

-8
Jim B,

On May 29, 2018, at 6:52 PM, William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:

One of my twin reversing gears has become very loose on its shaft. It appears that the hardened shaft for that gear has become buggered up by a piece of swarf that in turn has worn the bore on the gear. I need both. Would the gear and bolt off of the 9" reversing gear set work? I could bush the gear and grind the axel but I would like it to keep it to stock sizes. I see some of the older reversing gear sets on EBay and will get one of these if you guys say the parts are the same. Thanks. 
 

--
Jim B


Re: 10k reversing gears

glenn brooks
 

Probably the only caveat is that SB 9”lathes made prior to 1934or thereabouts   have a different design for the bed, carriage, etc, than the famous SB 9 A,B, and C models.  Many/most parts do not interchange between the early day machines and the latter production run.  So, perhaps sort out the build dates for any parts you might be looking at, to insure compatibility.

Glenn 


On May 29, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Jim_B <jim@...> wrote:

Look at the Army manual. 
The gears carry part numbers ending in nk signifying they are the same for both the 9” Workshop (n) and the 10K (k). The screws are not nk.
Why?
But there is a version of the rocker, the A version, that works for both. 
My guess is maybe. 

-8
Jim B,

On May 29, 2018, at 6:52 PM, William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:

One of my twin reversing gears has become very loose on its shaft. It appears that the hardened shaft for that gear has become buggered up by a piece of swarf that in turn has worn the bore on the gear. I need both. Would the gear and bolt off of the 9" reversing gear set work? I could bush the gear and grind the axel but I would like it to keep it to stock sizes. I see some of the older reversing gear sets on EBay and will get one of these if you guys say the parts are the same. Thanks. 
 

--
Jim B


Re: modern motor for SB9

Terry McCreary
 

I've collected several motors 1/4, 1/3, and 1/2 hp from clothes dryers that have been junked, and older washing machines (newer ones sometimes have the motor built-in and it's not easily removed).  Occasionally you'll find a two-speed motor, 1100 and 1750 rpm. The wiring diagram is often on an end bell or on a plate on the body, and it will indicate if/how the motor can be wired to run in reverse, as well as how to change from 110<-->220v operation.  Often the wiring is just a matter of running a jumper between two terminals, or removing a jumper, then connecting the hot and neutral wires to the right terminals.

Back before it was printed in color HSM ran an amusing but informative article on making a trip to the junkyard to hunt down and test such motors.  I think I still have it......somewhere.....

I used a 1/3 hp two-speed motor from a washing machine on my upscaled Gingery lathe. A little thought and a couple of the right kind of light switches allowed me to run forward or reverse or at low or high speed.

Best -- Terry

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Professor of Chemistry
Murray State University
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Re: 10k reversing gears

Jim_B
 

Look at the Army manual. 
The gears carry part numbers ending in nk signifying they are the same for both the 9” Workshop (n) and the 10K (k). The screws are not nk.
Why?
But there is a version of the rocker, the A version, that works for both. 
My guess is maybe. 

-8
Jim B,

On May 29, 2018, at 6:52 PM, William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:

One of my twin reversing gears has become very loose on its shaft. It appears that the hardened shaft for that gear has become buggered up by a piece of swarf that in turn has worn the bore on the gear. I need both. Would the gear and bolt off of the 9" reversing gear set work? I could bush the gear and grind the axel but I would like it to keep it to stock sizes. I see some of the older reversing gear sets on EBay and will get one of these if you guys say the parts are the same. Thanks. 
 

--
Jim B


FS: South Bend 9" Telescoping Follower Rest

bostonalbany
 

For sale telescoping follower rest for 9" South Bend lathe. In good condition with original locking screws. Asking $165 shipped in CON US.
Checks, Money order or PayPal.

Thanks

Jim


10k reversing gears

William Nelson
 

One of my twin reversing gears has become very loose on its shaft. It appears that the hardened shaft for that gear has become buggered up by a piece of swarf that in turn has worn the bore on the gear. I need both. Would the gear and bolt off of the 9" reversing gear set work? I could bush the gear and grind the axel but I would like it to keep it to stock sizes. I see some of the older reversing gear sets on EBay and will get one of these if you guys say the parts are the same. Thanks. 
 


Re: Logging In

Jim_B
 

Don’t know for sure. 
I think Paul the site owner. 

-8
Jim B,

On May 29, 2018, at 9:12 AM, Flash Gordon <eschwerkolt@...> wrote:

HI Jim,

I finally logged into the new site. Looks good. I like the lathe on the cover page; who does it belong to?

Ed S

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Jim B


Re: Logging In

Flash Gordon
 

HI Jim,

I finally logged into the new site. Looks good. I like the lathe on the cover page; who does it belong to?

Ed S


Re: ADV: Re: ADV: Re: [SouthBendLathe] StateCollage Crosslide

Flash Gordon
 

Hi Allan,

Is Paula still posting? She always did an excellent job. I  had to stop working do to health reasons. I only follow SB lathe for entertainment. I am slowly selling stuff off.

Ed  S

On 5/29/2018 8:00 AM, m. allan noah wrote:
I'm thinking that Ed is indicating he did things the same way as Paula
did, not that he is Paula :)

allan


Re: ADV: Re: ADV: Re: [SouthBendLathe] StateCollage Crosslide

Flash Gordon
 

No that is not my mill. That procedure was done by a rather well know lady "Paula" who does pretty much what she wants to do. I just followed that step by step on a bigger vertical mill at school. I have the gib spreader clamps if anyone wants to borrow them. They have been around the world.

I bought all the tooling on e-bay and it is for sale if anyone else wants to try hte job.

That is a very old post.  2005

Ed S



On 5/29/2018 7:09 AM, Guenther Paul wrote:

 Flash  is that your mill/drill on the picture.  am surprised they let you post that on practical machinist . They don't like machines like that there
GP



Re: ADV: Re: ADV: Re: [SouthBendLathe] StateCollage Crosslide

m. allan noah
 

I'm thinking that Ed is indicating he did things the same way as Paula
did, not that he is Paula :)

allan

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:09 AM, Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...> wrote:
Flash is that your mill/drill on the picture. am surprised they let you
post that on practical machinist . They don't like machines like that there
GP


On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:58 AM, Flash Gordon <eschwerkolt@...>
wrote:


Here is how i did it:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/south-bend-lathes/machining-t-slotted-cross-slide-177054/


EdS


On 5/28/2018 1:37 PM, mike allen wrote:
that would be great ED , any new info is good info

animal



On 5/28/2018 5:13 AM, Flash Gordon wrote:
A lot of machining. Surface the whole thing, mills the slots, drill
and mill the hole for the tool holder and more. I used an a very
large vertical mill at school. Took many days. There is a step by
step instruction with pictures that I followed. I can look up the
site if anyone is interested.

Ed S


On 5/27/2018 10:16 PM, mike allen wrote:
that's kinda what I was thinkin , I only have a Mill/Drill & I don't
think I have the travel . may have to call in a favor somewhere

animal



On 5/27/2018 7:10 PM, Jim_B wrote:
I always wanted one. I had a Burke #4 mill. It had a table travel
of 9”.
You need 12 or more.
You need to mill the V groves for the ways and mill the top surface
and size the bore for the top slide.
Not trivial.
Need something like a Bridgeport.

Sent from my iPhone-8
Jim B,

On May 27, 2018, at 10:00 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

has anyone gotten 1 of the cross slide casting kits from
StateCollage? How much machining was required?

http://www.statecollegecentral.com/metallathe/S-4382.html

tks

animal
















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Re: ADV: Re: ADV: Re: [SouthBendLathe] StateCollage Crosslide

Guenther Paul
 

 Flash  is that your mill/drill on the picture.  am surprised they let you post that on practical machinist . They don't like machines like that there
GP


On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:58 AM, Flash Gordon <eschwerkolt@...> wrote:


Here is how i did it:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/south-bend-lathes/machining-t-slotted-cross-slide-177054/


EdS


On 5/28/2018 1:37 PM, mike allen wrote:
> that would be great ED , any new info is good info
>
>         animal
>
>
>
> On 5/28/2018 5:13 AM, Flash Gordon wrote:
>> A lot of machining. Surface the whole thing, mills the slots, drill
>> and mill the hole for the tool holder and more. I used an a very
>> large vertical mill at school. Took many days. There is a step by
>> step instruction with pictures that I followed. I can look up the
>> site if anyone is interested.
>>
>> Ed S
>>
>>
>> On 5/27/2018 10:16 PM, mike allen wrote:
>>> that's kinda what I was thinkin , I only have a Mill/Drill & I don't
>>> think I have the travel . may have to call in a favor somewhere
>>>
>>>         animal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/27/2018 7:10 PM, Jim_B wrote:
>>>> I always wanted one. I had a Burke #4 mill. It had a table travel
>>>> of 9”.
>>>> You need 12 or more.
>>>> You need to mill the V groves for the ways and mill the top surface
>>>> and size the bore for the top slide.
>>>> Not trivial.
>>>> Need something like a Bridgeport.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone-8
>>>> Jim B,
>>>>
>>>>> On May 27, 2018, at 10:00 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>          has anyone gotten 1 of the cross slide casting kits from
>>>>> StateCollage?  How much machining was required?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.statecollegecentral.com/metallathe/S-4382.html
>>>>>
>>>>>          tks
>>>>>
>>>>>          animal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: ADV: Re: ADV: Re: [SouthBendLathe] StateCollage Crosslide

Flash Gordon
 

On 5/28/2018 1:37 PM, mike allen wrote:
that would be great ED , any new info is good info

        animal



On 5/28/2018 5:13 AM, Flash Gordon wrote:
A lot of machining. Surface the whole thing, mills the slots, drill and mill the hole for the tool holder and more. I used an a very large vertical mill at school. Took many days. There is a step by step instruction with pictures that I followed. I can look up the site if anyone is interested.

Ed S


On 5/27/2018 10:16 PM, mike allen wrote:
that's kinda what I was thinkin , I only have a Mill/Drill & I don't think I have the travel . may have to call in a favor somewhere

        animal



On 5/27/2018 7:10 PM, Jim_B wrote:
I always wanted one. I had a Burke #4 mill. It had a table travel of 9”.
You need 12 or more.
You need to mill the V groves for the ways and mill the top surface and size the bore for the top slide.
Not trivial.
Need something like a Bridgeport.

Sent from my iPhone-8
Jim B,

On May 27, 2018, at 10:00 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

         has anyone gotten 1 of the cross slide casting kits from StateCollage?  How much machining was required?

http://www.statecollegecentral.com/metallathe/S-4382.html

         tks

         animal