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Re: Files are back!!!

Jim_B
 

Thanks Nelson. 
I have been checking and they just showed up now. 

-8
Jim B,

On Jan 24, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Nelson Collar nel2lar@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:

 

The files are there on my PC
Nelson

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018, 9:17:49 PM EST, Jim Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...> wrote:


 


I don’t know if my posts to the blog had anything to do with it but the Files section is no there, at least on my iPhone.
-8
Jim B,

Re: Files are back!!!

Nelson Collar
 

The files are there on my PC
Nelson

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018, 9:17:49 PM EST, Jim Jim@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE] wrote:


 


I don’t know if my posts to the blog had anything to do with it but the Files section is no there, at least on my iPhone.
-8
Jim B,

Files are back!!!

Jim_B
 

I don’t know if my posts to the blog had anything to do with it but the Files section is no there, at least on my iPhone.
Sent from my iPhone-8
Jim B,

Re: Headstock Taper Adapter Removal

Guenther Paul
 

Carl
The next time you leave a taper sleeve in the head stock give it a light coat of oil

 
GP



From: "cwbukows@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 3:04 PM
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: Headstock Taper Adapter Removal

 
Eddy, Thanks for the reply. 

I have a foot of 3/4" diameter cold rolled so I'll soak it and try tapping it loose.

Carl


Re: Headstock Taper Adapter Removal

eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

You're welcome.  Every lathe I've ever encountered has a suitable length of bar or heavy tube parked by it for this very purpose.  Woe betide the apprentice who cuts a bit off to make something, and then finds the "special tool" disappearing down the headstock!

The one for our 18" centre height x 10' between centres Broadbent is nearly a 2 man lift.  Being on centre catching duties is not a popular role, as it's about 5" diameter.

Eddie



From: "cwbukows@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2018, 20:07
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: Headstock Taper Adapter Removal

 
Eddie, Thanks for the reply. 

I have a foot of 3/4" diameter cold rolled so I'll soak it and try tapping it loose.

Carl


Re: Headstock Taper Adapter Removal

Carl Bukowsky
 

Eddie, Thanks for the reply. 

I have a foot of 3/4" diameter cold rolled so I'll soak it and try tapping it loose.

Carl

Re: Headstock Taper Adapter Removal

eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

Usual process for removing things from headstock tapers is a metal rod that is long enough to handle through the entire spindle, and just use it as a battering ram.  If that doesn't work get a bigger one!  Hammer not recommended, as the mass of the rod should be sufficient, and mild steel should be OK.  You might want penetrating oil on from both ends for a while.

(Overheard on a heritage railway:  "Don't force it, get a bigger hammer"). 

Eddie



From: "cwbukows@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2018, 16:46
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Headstock Taper Adapter Removal

 
Hello to all from here in North Texas. I really appreciate being in the Group here and its my first posting. I've been digesting tons of info from the site for months, and I have to say thanks for all the effort to make this info available to others like me.

My background in metal lathes is thin but I really take to learning! I'm a retired Systems Engineer ('11) who dabbles in all sorts of things in my spare time; woodworking, turning wood, old trucks, dirt fishing. Lately I've taken to restoring older machinery for fun and profit. I'm over on the OWWM site usually (Lastwagen) and that's where I got started... found info for a 1950 Power King 12” drill press, restored that, and I think you know the rest....just say I'm running short of floorium now. So why am I here....Oh yeah..

I now have a 1929 SB Junior in my shop, still in the restoration process. I have run into a problem that I need your advice on “how to”; I want to remove the headstock taper adapter that's in the spindle. I can only guess how long its been in there, but it needs to come out. So far I have attempted to drive it out with a wooden dowel and then I applied a home-made puller (threaded rod to pull from rear of taper adapter against the nose protector on the end of the spindle) to apply tension. Any advice would be appreciated. Has anyone heard of similar problems or solutions that worked?

PS: You can see that lathe in the album I posted today

Thanks, Carl, aka Lastwagen



Headstock Taper Adapter Removal

Carl Bukowsky
 

Hello to all from here in North Texas. I really appreciate being in the Group here and its my first posting. I've been digesting tons of info from the site for months, and I have to say thanks for all the effort to make this info available to others like me.


My background in metal lathes is thin but I really take to learning! I'm a retired Systems Engineer ('11) who dabbles in all sorts of things in my spare time; woodworking, turning wood, old trucks, dirt fishing. Lately I've taken to restoring older machinery for fun and profit. I'm over on the OWWM site usually (Lastwagen) and that's where I got started... found info for a 1950 Power King 12” drill press, restored that, and I think you know the rest....just say I'm running short of floorium now. So why am I here....Oh yeah..


I now have a 1929 SB Junior in my shop, still in the restoration process. I have run into a problem that I need your advice on “how to”; I want to remove the headstock taper adapter that's in the spindle. I can only guess how long its been in there, but it needs to come out. So far I have attempted to drive it out with a wooden dowel and then I applied a home-made puller (threaded rod to pull from rear of taper adapter against the nose protector on the end of the spindle) to apply tension. Any advice would be appreciated. Has anyone heard of similar problems or solutions that worked?


PS: You can see that lathe in the album I posted today


Thanks, Carl, aka Lastwagen


Re: Stuck worm drive

eddie.draper@btinternet.com
 

F or C, please?  Loctite bulletins typically state 250C (482F)

Eddie



From: "J H HUDSON halbert____1@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: "SOUTHBENDLATHE@..."
Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2018, 3:52
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Stuck worm drive

 
If the pin was not there then the last person may have used locktite to keep the nut on, you may have to heat it to at least 350 before locktite will give.
 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:12 PM
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Stuck worm drive
 
 
Hi all,

First post so thanks for all the free info so far.

I've been trying to strip the apron of my 9a and can't for the life of me remove the collar holding in the worm gear, pin wasn't present and the gib is out.

It is definitely binding somewhere and I have already used as much force as I can muster with a piece of pin stock in hole as a lever, bit of heat etc.

Is it a case of breaking out the big guns and just forcing it until one of us cracks or is there a more delicate approach anyone can suggest.

The angle grinder keeps giving me this "I could have that off in 5 minutes" look :)


Re: Stuck worm drive

Nfwood
 

Go gently, Sir or you will have multiple parts to repair or replace.  No one needs that and all are expensive.

Nelson Wood


-----Original Message-----
From: benjithestupiddog@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE
Sent: Wed, Jan 17, 2018 7:34 am
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Stuck worm drive



Hi Jon,

Sadly yes, I can make about 1/2 - 3/4 of a turn before it all binds up, I did also notice (but failed to mention) a couple of marks on the back end, possibly it was introduced to Mr Hammer at some point in its past, though I did clean the thread up I don't think that is the problem area.

That being said on further inspection, one of the spreader plates in the clutch is missing, the 2 nuts which hold the half nuts in are missing, paint looks like it was applied with a hammer, the half nut leaver has been broken and repaired by a very angry welder and the feed select lever does not seem to operate as smoothly as it should.

So in the scheme of things a stuck collar is a small fish in a big pond.

Regards 

Adam


---In southbendlathe@..., wrote :

Are you certain the pin is not engaging the worm as well as the lock ring?






-----Original Message-----

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: 2018-01-16 4:03:47 PM
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Stuck worm drive

 
Hi all,

First post so thanks for all the free info so far.

I've been trying to strip the apron of my 9a and can't for the life of me remove the collar holding in the worm gear, pin wasn't present and the gib is out.

It is definitely binding somewhere and I have already used as much force as I can muster with a piece of pin stock in hole as a lever, bit of heat etc.

Is it a case of breaking out the big guns and just forcing it until one of us cracks or is there a more delicate approach anyone can suggest.

The angle grinder keeps giving me this "I could have that off in 5 minutes" look :)




Re: Stuck worm drive

jonwoellhaf
 

I remember mine also being very difficult to remove. Once I got it off, I chased the threads on the worm and ring and eventually got them to fit smoothly. I wonder if distortion of the threads from drilling the original pin hole is the cause of the binding.
 

From: Jon jonwoellhaf@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 17:45
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Stuck worm drive
 
 

Are you certain the pin is not engaging the worm as well as the lock ring?






-----Original Message-----

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: 2018-01-16 4:03:47 PM
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Stuck worm drive

 

Hi all,

First post so thanks for all the free info so far.

I've been trying to strip the apron of my 9a and can't for the life of me remove the collar holding in the worm gear, pin wasn't present and the gib is out.

It is definitely binding somewhere and I have already used as much force as I can muster with a piece of pin stock in hole as a lever, bit of heat etc.

Is it a case of breaking out the big guns and just forcing it until one of us cracks or is there a more delicate approach anyone can suggest.

The angle grinder keeps giving me this "I could have that off in 5 minutes" look :)



Re: New to the group

Donn Perkins
 

Yeah I'm interested.  Can you send me a personal message with more information?


On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:05 AM, "'armne@...' armne@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]" wrote:


 
Its my friends its partly apart but i Very Good Condition let me know and ill telll him if he still has it!
Alec



From: "nfwood@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: New to the group

 
Hold out for a 9a if you can.  You won't regret it!

Nelson Wood


-----Original Message-----
From: perkins.donn@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE <SOUTHBENDLATHE@...>
Sent: Tue, Jan 16, 2018 10:09 am
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: New to the group



Hello all,  I just joined as well although I currently do not own a SB lathe.  I do own a Atlas618 and am a member of that Yahoo group.  I bought that lathe a couple of years ago and completely stripped it down, refinished it and have used it for several projects.  It was a very fun and learning experience but now I want to step it a notch (or several?) and am looking for a South Bend 9C or 10.  So that brings me here.  I live in Seattle.  Just missed a SB9C on CL for $1200.  It was gone immediately!  Got a leader on a 9A which may be available soon but if anyone in this group knows of a nice machine for sale let me know.  Thanks.





Re: Stuck worm drive

benjithestupiddog@...
 

Thanks for the reply, 

I didn't take it up that high, but I couldn't see any evidence of thread lock anywhere and can make half a turn before it all binds up.

I'm due to give it another go tonight with a couple of strap wrenches, failing that its mole grips, some swearing and no doubt regret.

Re: Stuck worm drive

benjithestupiddog@...
 

Hi Jon,

Sadly yes, I can make about 1/2 - 3/4 of a turn before it all binds up, I did also notice (but failed to mention) a couple of marks on the back end, possibly it was introduced to Mr Hammer at some point in its past, though I did clean the thread up I don't think that is the problem area.

That being said on further inspection, one of the spreader plates in the clutch is missing, the 2 nuts which hold the half nuts in are missing, paint looks like it was applied with a hammer, the half nut leaver has been broken and repaired by a very angry welder and the feed select lever does not seem to operate as smoothly as it should.

So in the scheme of things a stuck collar is a small fish in a big pond.

Regards 

Adam


---In southbendlathe@..., <jonwoellhaf@...> wrote :

Are you certain the pin is not engaging the worm as well as the lock ring?






-----Original Message-----

From: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: 2018-01-16 4:03:47 PM
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Stuck worm drive

 

Hi all,

First post so thanks for all the free info so far.

I've been trying to strip the apron of my 9a and can't for the life of me remove the collar holding in the worm gear, pin wasn't present and the gib is out.

It is definitely binding somewhere and I have already used as much force as I can muster with a piece of pin stock in hole as a lever, bit of heat etc.

Is it a case of breaking out the big guns and just forcing it until one of us cracks or is there a more delicate approach anyone can suggest.

The angle grinder keeps giving me this "I could have that off in 5 minutes" look :)



Re: Stuck worm drive

jim and rose
 

If the pin was not there then the last person may have used locktite to keep the nut on, you may have to heat it to at least 350 before locktite will give.
 
 

From: benjithestupiddog@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:12 PM
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Stuck worm drive
 
 

Hi all,

First post so thanks for all the free info so far.

I've been trying to strip the apron of my 9a and can't for the life of me remove the collar holding in the worm gear, pin wasn't present and the gib is out.

It is definitely binding somewhere and I have already used as much force as I can muster with a piece of pin stock in hole as a lever, bit of heat etc.

Is it a case of breaking out the big guns and just forcing it until one of us cracks or is there a more delicate approach anyone can suggest.

The angle grinder keeps giving me this "I could have that off in 5 minutes" look :)

Re: Stuck worm drive

jonwoellhaf
 

Stuck worm drive

benjithestupiddog@...
 

Hi all,

First post so thanks for all the free info so far.

I've been trying to strip the apron of my 9a and can't for the life of me remove the collar holding in the worm gear, pin wasn't present and the gib is out.

It is definitely binding somewhere and I have already used as much force as I can muster with a piece of pin stock in hole as a lever, bit of heat etc.

Is it a case of breaking out the big guns and just forcing it until one of us cracks or is there a more delicate approach anyone can suggest.

The angle grinder keeps giving me this "I could have that off in 5 minutes" look :)

Re: New to the group

armne@sbcglobal.net <armne@...>
 

Its my friends its partly apart but i Very Good Condition let me know and ill telll him if he still has it!
Alec



From: "nfwood@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: New to the group

 
Hold out for a 9a if you can.  You won't regret it!

Nelson Wood


-----Original Message-----
From: perkins.donn@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE
Sent: Tue, Jan 16, 2018 10:09 am
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: New to the group



Hello all,  I just joined as well although I currently do not own a SB lathe.  I do own a Atlas618 and am a member of that Yahoo group.  I bought that lathe a couple of years ago and completely stripped it down, refinished it and have used it for several projects.  It was a very fun and learning experience but now I want to step it a notch (or several?) and am looking for a South Bend 9C or 10.  So that brings me here.  I live in Seattle.  Just missed a SB9C on CL for $1200.  It was gone immediately!  Got a leader on a 9A which may be available soon but if anyone in this group knows of a nice machine for sale let me know.  Thanks.



Re: New to the group

armne@sbcglobal.net <armne@...>
 

Its my friends its partly apart but i Very Good Condition let me know and ill telll him if he still has it!
Alec




From: "nfwood@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]"
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: New to the group

 
Hold out for a 9a if you can.  You won't regret it!

Nelson Wood


-----Original Message-----
From: perkins.donn@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE
Sent: Tue, Jan 16, 2018 10:09 am
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: New to the group



Hello all,  I just joined as well although I currently do not own a SB lathe.  I do own a Atlas618 and am a member of that Yahoo group.  I bought that lathe a couple of years ago and completely stripped it down, refinished it and have used it for several projects.  It was a very fun and learning experience but now I want to step it a notch (or several?) and am looking for a South Bend 9C or 10.  So that brings me here.  I live in Seattle.  Just missed a SB9C on CL for $1200.  It was gone immediately!  Got a leader on a 9A which may be available soon but if anyone in this group knows of a nice machine for sale let me know.  Thanks.



Re: New to the group

Nfwood
 

Hold out for a 9a if you can.  You won't regret it!

Nelson Wood


-----Original Message-----
From: perkins.donn@... [SOUTHBENDLATHE]
To: SOUTHBENDLATHE
Sent: Tue, Jan 16, 2018 10:09 am
Subject: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Re: New to the group



Hello all,  I just joined as well although I currently do not own a SB lathe.  I do own a Atlas618 and am a member of that Yahoo group.  I bought that lathe a couple of years ago and completely stripped it down, refinished it and have used it for several projects.  It was a very fun and learning experience but now I want to step it a notch (or several?) and am looking for a South Bend 9C or 10.  So that brings me here.  I live in Seattle.  Just missed a SB9C on CL for $1200.  It was gone immediately!  Got a leader on a 9A which may be available soon but if anyone in this group knows of a nice machine for sale let me know.  Thanks.