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Re: Nebulosity vs NINA

Eric Walden
 

I have also been using NINA exclusively with Scitech on my Mesu 200 Mk2. I haven’t built a pointing model. Just use plate solve and sync. Works perfectly almost all the time. Have been having a few crashing issues in NINA recently but not sure if that is a product of it or my setup.


Re: Nebulosity vs NINA

paul K
 

Hi Chris, have you looked at Sequence generator pro? It integrates really well with sitech and many other ascom compliant devices. 
Best wishes
Paul

On Mon, 28 Sep 2020, 08:02 Don W, <westergren@...> wrote:
 

Hello

I guess I should start a new question,if I could find out how to,but here goes.

 

If I replace Nebulosity with NINA as the telescope control program can I build a plate solve mount model?

OR

how do you keep Nebulosity in listen mode for more than a few plate solves?

Chris

Hi Chris,
Sorry but NINA is not supported by SiTech at this time.  I don't know why Nebulosity drops out of listening mode.

There is a cumbersome way to use Nina, by modifying the script to develop a PXP model to pause and manually take a Fits image in NINA and save it to the default.fit location, then let SiTech run Platesolve 2 or 3 for that PXP point, then move to the next point.

SiTech only controls the camera from the list of programs in CameraStuff in ChangeConfig.
Don W




Re: Nebulosity vs NINA

moofrost@...
 

Hi. I use NINA exclusively with Sitech. Never an issue. Through Ascom. Multiple plate solves when framing etc. Actually runs smooth as butter.

 How are you set up?


Re: Nebulosity vs NINA

Che
 

I used to have problems with Nebulosity dropping out of listening mode with my QHY8 and QHY 10 cams.  When put the cams into fast download mode the problem went away.  I may have binned as well I am not sure.  It was taking too long to download and Nebulosity would drop out.  Not sure what cam you are using but you might give that a try.  Would be nice if Dan could implement NINA support as it is awesome and growing rapidly in number of users.

Che

On 9/28/2020 1:12 AM, Chris Waters wrote:

OK,

Thanks Don, seems like I persevere with Nebulosity.

Chris

On 28/9/20 3:02 pm, Don W wrote:
 

Hello

I guess I should start a new question,if I could find out how to,but here goes.

 

If I replace Nebulosity with NINA as the telescope control program can I build a plate solve mount model?

OR

how do you keep Nebulosity in listen mode for more than a few plate solves?

Chris

Hi Chris,
Sorry but NINA is not supported by SiTech at this time.  I don't know why Nebulosity drops out of listening mode.

There is a cumbersome way to use Nina, by modifying the script to develop a PXP model to pause and manually take a Fits image in NINA and save it to the default.fit location, then let SiTech run Platesolve 2 or 3 for that PXP point, then move to the next point.

SiTech only controls the camera from the list of programs in CameraStuff in ChangeConfig.
Don W




Re: Nebulosity vs NINA

Chris Waters
 

OK,

Thanks Don, seems like I persevere with Nebulosity.

Chris

On 28/9/20 3:02 pm, Don W wrote:
 

Hello

I guess I should start a new question,if I could find out how to,but here goes.

 

If I replace Nebulosity with NINA as the telescope control program can I build a plate solve mount model?

OR

how do you keep Nebulosity in listen mode for more than a few plate solves?

Chris

Hi Chris,
Sorry but NINA is not supported by SiTech at this time.  I don't know why Nebulosity drops out of listening mode.

There is a cumbersome way to use Nina, by modifying the script to develop a PXP model to pause and manually take a Fits image in NINA and save it to the default.fit location, then let SiTech run Platesolve 2 or 3 for that PXP point, then move to the next point.

SiTech only controls the camera from the list of programs in CameraStuff in ChangeConfig.
Don W




Nebulosity vs NINA

Don W
 

 

Hello

I guess I should start a new question,if I could find out how to,but here goes.

 

If I replace Nebulosity with NINA as the telescope control program can I build a plate solve mount model?

OR

how do you keep Nebulosity in listen mode for more than a few plate solves?

Chris

Hi Chris,
Sorry but NINA is not supported by SiTech at this time.  I don't know why Nebulosity drops out of listening mode.

There is a cumbersome way to use Nina, by modifying the script to develop a PXP model to pause and manually take a Fits image in NINA and save it to the default.fit location, then let SiTech run Platesolve 2 or 3 for that PXP point, then move to the next point.

SiTech only controls the camera from the list of programs in CameraStuff in ChangeConfig.
Don W




Re: Dan Is Home But Fire Not Out

Chris Waters
 

Hello

I guess I should start a new question,if I could find out how to,but here goes.


If I replace Nebulosity with NINA as the telescope control program can I build a plate solve mount model?

OR

how do you keep Nebulosity in listen mode for more than a few plate solves?

Chris

 On 23/9/20 4:55 am, Dan Gray wrote:
Thanks everybody for all your caring comments.
When we got the evacuation notice, it was Taj's day off, but he came in anyway to help prepare the place.
So Daniel, Taj and I cut down a lot of trees by the shop and house, then dragged them into the woods.
We then moved some equipment to a safer place, like the 4 wheeler, the tractor, lawn mower, boat, etc.
Taj made a lot of backups of our server, etc.
Then we packed up Samantha's motor home, and Sam, Jessie (our German Shepherd) and I left.
The smoke was absolutely terrible.
We stayed in a Walmart parking lot while we were evacuated.
Yesterday they lifted the level 2 evacuation notice, we're now level 1, which means be ready to evacuate.
It rained last Thursday and I've never looked forward to the rain as much as I did then.

Really, today is my first day back at work.
We're all fine, Taj, Joel, Daniel, and I are all doing fine, so is Samantha.
Daniel just got engaged!  He's on vacation, so we're still shorthanded.

We're still thinking about Richard and Elenore Berry, who lost their place, house and barn.  His observatory was in the middle of a field, and survived.
Their Lama's somehow survived too.

Cheers, and thanks again everyone.

Dan


On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 12:06 AM Jaspal Chadha via groups.io <jaspalchadha=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Glad your safe Don - it’s a real shame about the fires :( 


On 19 Sep 2020, at 07:43, Don W <westergren@...> wrote:



Hi All,
Today rain came to Dan's home area - around 0.57 inches Friday.  That helps reduce the fire, but it probably doesn't put it out.  But it also helps clear the air of smoke.

Don W


What happened to Lenord?

Mike Colyar
 

Leonard Stage isn't answering emails or voice mails. Has he closed his business or having problems?


Re: Stand alone operation with an Alt/Alt

Mike Colyar
 

Hi Russel,

I remember reading that. It made sense to me, sort of. Thanks for reminding me though.

What I’m hopeing to do is run a mount in standalone mode for public star parties and one of the needs is to minimize the amount of equipment to haul around. This includes a laptop and cameras and the like. Easy to do in Alt/Az and Equatorial but not obvious to me in Alt/Alt.

Probably Dan has this all sorted out or will have a solution in mind. He’s always been about three jumps ahead of me.

Mike


On Sep 27, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Russell R via groups.io <rem.64@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Going to add to what Don said.

I did this a while back with a mount that can move from equatorial to Alt/Alt by just turning a crank.  Easier to initialize than an equatorial.  In my case, just align mount axis with NCP and get fairly level.  Then do photo int. followed by a mount model.  I did some testing at what degrees I could tilt the axis using PXP.  It went all the way to 11.3° before the mount model blew up.  However some things happen along the way.  When a mount model is built by the script, it places calibration points right on the edge of the horizon file boundary.  When you start to "tilt" the axis, some of these calibration points are moved out of the boundary and PXP won't included them anymore.  I was impressed by how far it did work.  For chasing satellites it is great, but for imaging, you would probably need a rotator. 

There is a drawback however to doing this which caused issues switching back and forth.  Here is what Dan told me.  
From Dan Gray:
Yes, changing types of scopes will completely mess up the parking and everything.
I suggest you get everything working (inlcuding any homes or parks) in the alt/alt format, then go to the SiTechExe->Config ->ChangeConfig ->Misc
Save a backup named "Alt_Alt.cfg".
Ok, now close SiTechExe, always recommended if changing mount types.
 
Go to the SiTechData folder
Copy any and all the ParkPointXP files and the HomePointXP files to same with a prefix of Alt_Alt_
 
Ok, restart SiTechExe, change the mount to GEM or Equatorial, "OK", then exit SiTechExe again.
Now restart SiTechExe, and load models, set your home and/or park positions, etc.
Now, again, go to the SiTechExe->Config ->ChangeConfig ->Misc
Save a backup named "Equatorial.cfg".
 
Ok, exit SiTechExe,
Copy any and all the ParkPointXP files and the HomePointXP files to same with a prefix of Equ_
 
Now make yourself a batch file that copies the appropriate Alt_Alt files and overwrite the existing files without the prefixes.
 
Make another batch file that copies the appropriate Equ_ files and overwrite the existing files without the prefixes.
 
OR, use a different computer for the two types of mounts.
Dan

Hope this helps some.
Russell R.


Re: Stand alone operation with an Alt/Alt

Russell R
 

Hi Mike,

Going to add to what Don said.

I did this a while back with a mount that can move from equatorial to Alt/Alt by just turning a crank.  Easier to initialize than an equatorial.  In my case, just align mount axis with NCP and get fairly level.  Then do photo int. followed by a mount model.  I did some testing at what degrees I could tilt the axis using PXP.  It went all the way to 11.3° before the mount model blew up.  However some things happen along the way.  When a mount model is built by the script, it places calibration points right on the edge of the horizon file boundary.  When you start to "tilt" the axis, some of these calibration points are moved out of the boundary and PXP won't included them anymore.  I was impressed by how far it did work.  For chasing satellites it is great, but for imaging, you would probably need a rotator. 

There is a drawback however to doing this which caused issues switching back and forth.  Here is what Dan told me.  
From Dan Gray:
Yes, changing types of scopes will completely mess up the parking and everything.
I suggest you get everything working (inlcuding any homes or parks) in the alt/alt format, then go to the SiTechExe->Config ->ChangeConfig ->Misc
Save a backup named "Alt_Alt.cfg".
Ok, now close SiTechExe, always recommended if changing mount types.
 
Go to the SiTechData folder
Copy any and all the ParkPointXP files and the HomePointXP files to same with a prefix of Alt_Alt_
 
Ok, restart SiTechExe, change the mount to GEM or Equatorial, "OK", then exit SiTechExe again.
Now restart SiTechExe, and load models, set your home and/or park positions, etc.
Now, again, go to the SiTechExe->Config ->ChangeConfig ->Misc
Save a backup named "Equatorial.cfg".
 
Ok, exit SiTechExe,
Copy any and all the ParkPointXP files and the HomePointXP files to same with a prefix of Equ_
 
Now make yourself a batch file that copies the appropriate Alt_Alt files and overwrite the existing files without the prefixes.
 
Make another batch file that copies the appropriate Equ_ files and overwrite the existing files without the prefixes.
 
OR, use a different computer for the two types of mounts.
Dan

Hope this helps some.
Russell R.


Re: Stand alone operation with an Alt/Alt

Mike Colyar
 

Cool. I wondered. Thanks!

I’ll be seeing him this week.

I have some sketches of a wedge that can have three different angles. 0 degrees for Alt/Az. The co-latitude of the location (about 42 degrees for the San Juan islands) for equatorial operation, and 90 degrees for Alt/Alt on the nights I want to fool around looking at satellites. Just loosen a couple of bolts and presto chango!

That is unless I have to dig around in Servodoc each time I change my mind (often). Then I will be whining to Dan about more features. Some things never change.

Mike


On Sep 27, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Don W <westergren@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,
When we wrote the user manuals, there was no alt-alt in SiTech.  It was much more recent that Dan added the Alt-Alt to SiTech.  Dan's observatory uses an Alt-Alt mount which give all-sky rapid movement to track fast satellites.  SiTech has a checkbox in ChangeConfig/Mount Parms for Alt-Alt, but I don't know if that works with Drag and Track modes.

Dan will have to answer how the Alt-Alt is initialized.

Don W


Re: Stand alone operation with an Alt/Alt

Don W
 

Hi Mike,
When we wrote the user manuals, there was no alt-alt in SiTech.  It was much more recent that Dan added the Alt-Alt to SiTech.  Dan's observatory uses an Alt-Alt mount which give all-sky rapid movement to track fast satellites.  SiTech has a checkbox in ChangeConfig/Mount Parms for Alt-Alt, but I don't know if that works with Drag and Track modes.

Dan will have to answer how the Alt-Alt is initialized.

Don W


Stand alone operation with an Alt/Alt

Mike Colyar
 

I've been reading the Servodoc (for maybe the umpteenth time) and I have a question.

It seems straight forward to run a simple mount like an Alt/Az fork in Drag and Track or Slew and Track. What is not addressed is how to get going in either of those modes with an Alt/Alt mount. As for instance just tipping our hypothetical Alt/Az over 90 degrees with the old azimuth (primary) axis pointed North. Now it is an Alt/Alt and can track though the zenith.

Would I just level the primary axis, point the scope at the NCP with the secondary axis and initialize? Is this covered somewhere that I have looked and not seen? Not unusual for me. Heh!


Re: Copying controller setup.

Mike Colyar
 

Want to sell your old one?


Re: Copying controller setup.

Don W
 

Hi Sean,

Yes you can save the firmware settings to a PC and then load them into a new controller.  You use the ServoConfig.exe program (usually stored in the C:\ServoConfig folder).  Run ServoConfig and have it load data from your old controller.  Go to the Edit Parameters/Misc and Action and save the data to a file. Then connect your new controller and load that data to the new controller.

Don W


Copying controller setup.

Sean M
 

About a year ago I purchased a 16 year old dob with a Sitech servo controller.  The controller does work well when it does work.  There's no mystery why it does not work; it's just had too much time on the road.  The wires are falling out of it, the housing is loose. Before I start observing I give it a good squeeze so all the wires are back in place.  I've purchased a new controller box.  Setting up a new controller seems complicated.  Is there a way I can copy the settings from the old controller to the new controller?  The current one is wired as a  "DragNTrack System".

Thanks,
Sean



Re: Like a phoenix...

Bob K......
 

Richard,  The same for me as all the others have said so well.  Best wishes and I am glad you are both okay.
Bob


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On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:31 PM CandCShaw <candcshaw@...> wrote:
Richard, ditto for me on what Don said!!!!!!

Chuck Shaw 


On Sep 24, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Don W <westergren@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

It was very sad to hear about your losses due to the fire.  I heard about the fires in Oregon, and contacted Dan Gray to find out what was happening.  Dan was also evacuated, and he told me about your fire loss, but I had no details about your situation.  Fortunately Dan's home is OK but he spent 8 or 9 days in smoky Portland.  I am very glad you and your wife are safe.

I am like many astronomy hobbyists, having built and used my Cookbook CCD for an auto guider for many years.  Thanks for all the  work and information you provided through the years to make our hobby and interests fun and productive.  I treasure your autographed copy of your book on Telescopes Eyepieces Astrographs and having met and talked with you at RTMC.

I hope whatever you decide to do in the future, that you will enjoy looking up at the sky and share with all of us.

Don Westergren


Re: Blown controller fuse

Jeff Ross
 

Yes, Taj e-mailed me with the correct part number.  It is a Digi-Key F2471-ND.  Correct size is 5mm x 15mm.

https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/littelfuse-inc/0229004-HXP/F2471-ND/777187

I had already bought some fuses on-line but the ones I got are 10 mm long instead of 15mm.  They do make contact on both sides of the fuse holder and my controller does work.

Whew--I know I dodged an expensive bullet there.

Jeff

On 9/25/20 7:32 AM, James Roe wrote:
Jeff, did you get an answer to that question?  I need to know the same thing (also a tip where I can get one?)

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 3:35 PM Jeff Ross <jross@...> wrote:
At 64 in what I now claim as the occasional "senior" moment (used to be
just a "dumba** moment) I reversed the power to my SiTech Controller 1
and promptly blew the fuse.

Well, that's a relief--I was worried before I pulled the case apart I'd
be looking at a dead controller.

I'm sure this is in the Fine Manual or the archives somewhere but is
that a 4A/125V 3.6mm x 10mm fast blow fuse?

Thanks!

Jeff Ross
Townsend, MT






Re: Blown controller fuse

James Roe
 

Jeff, did you get an answer to that question?  I need to know the same thing (also a tip where I can get one?)


On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 3:35 PM Jeff Ross <jross@...> wrote:
At 64 in what I now claim as the occasional "senior" moment (used to be
just a "dumba** moment) I reversed the power to my SiTech Controller 1
and promptly blew the fuse.

Well, that's a relief--I was worried before I pulled the case apart I'd
be looking at a dead controller.

I'm sure this is in the Fine Manual or the archives somewhere but is
that a 4A/125V 3.6mm x 10mm fast blow fuse?

Thanks!

Jeff Ross
Townsend, MT





Re: Like a phoenix...

CandCShaw
 

Richard, ditto for me on what Don said!!!!!!

Chuck Shaw 


On Sep 24, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Don W <westergren@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

It was very sad to hear about your losses due to the fire.  I heard about the fires in Oregon, and contacted Dan Gray to find out what was happening.  Dan was also evacuated, and he told me about your fire loss, but I had no details about your situation.  Fortunately Dan's home is OK but he spent 8 or 9 days in smoky Portland.  I am very glad you and your wife are safe.

I am like many astronomy hobbyists, having built and used my Cookbook CCD for an auto guider for many years.  Thanks for all the  work and information you provided through the years to make our hobby and interests fun and productive.  I treasure your autographed copy of your book on Telescopes Eyepieces Astrographs and having met and talked with you at RTMC.

I hope whatever you decide to do in the future, that you will enjoy looking up at the sky and share with all of us.

Don Westergren

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