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[SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

arved_grass
 

You might try acrylic craft paints. Raw Sienna is pretty close to the Rustoleum color. Or whatever you use for "Box Car Brown" should work, too.

I have a can of the Rustoleum paint, but I'm afraid it's too thick. Going to take a lot of thinning to get it to come out of the airbrush. Fortunately, I don't scrape off a lot of the color from portions that are visible after assembly.
 
Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida


From: "lajrmdlr@... [SergentEng]"
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:47 AM
Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 
If you have places in the Land of Oz that can make paint take a "swatch" of any color to them. In the USA it cost me $5.00 USD for a pint of rust about 2 years ago. They could do water or petroleum based paint. Still have most of it left!
Andy Jackson
Bellflower CA


Nathan Rich
 

I brush painted a couple of couplers using Tru-Color Mud, looked pretty good to me. I just took care to keep paint out of anyplace it shouldn't go.

Nathan Rich

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Arved Grass arved_grass@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

You might try acrylic craft paints. Raw Sienna is pretty close to the Rustoleum color. Or whatever you use for "Box Car Brown" should work, too.

I have a can of the Rustoleum paint, but I'm afraid it's too thick. Going to take a lot of thinning to get it to come out of the airbrush. Fortunately, I don't scrape off a lot of the color from portions that are visible after assembly.
 
Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida


From: "lajrmdlr@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...>
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:47 AM
Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 
If you have places in the Land of Oz that can make paint take a "swatch" of any color to them. In the USA it cost me $5.00 USD for a pint of rust about 2 years ago. They could do water or petroleum based paint. Still have most of it left!
Andy Jackson
Bellflower CA



Jason McKee <jdmkee@...>
 

Hi guys,

I use Vallejo paints that I use for my military models, just be careful to protect the working surfaces of the couplers so they work without issues.  I paint mine individually as I can vary the paint on each coupler slightly.

 

Jason McKee

Brisbane Australia

 

From: SergentEng@... [mailto:SergentEng@...]
Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2014 6:02 PM
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 

 

You might try acrylic craft paints. Raw Sienna is pretty close to the Rustoleum color. Or whatever you use for "Box Car Brown" should work, too.

 

I have a can of the Rustoleum paint, but I'm afraid it's too thick. Going to take a lot of thinning to get it to come out of the airbrush. Fortunately, I don't scrape off a lot of the color from portions that are visible after assembly.

 

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

 


From: "lajrmdlr@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...>
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:47 AM
Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 

 

If you have places in the Land of Oz that can make paint take a "swatch" of any color to them. In the USA it cost me $5.00 USD for a pint of rust about 2 years ago. They could do water or petroleum based paint. Still have most of it left!
Andy Jackson
Bellflower CA

 

Tim L
 

Thanks all for the replies.

Tamiya is available here. Not sure about how vast the spray can range is
though. Tru-colour I saw at an exhibition back in August, don't know
when I'll see that guy again. Can't say I've seen Vallejo in any shops,
but then again I don't get to shops a whole lot these days.

You've all given me a few things to look out for.

Cheers,

Tim
Land of OZ

On 26/10/2014 12:36, 'Jason McKee' jdmkee@... [SergentEng] wrote:
Hi guys,

I use Vallejo paints that I use for my military models, just be careful
to protect the working surfaces of the couplers so they work without
issues. I paint mine individually as I can vary the paint on each
coupler slightly.

Jason McKee

Brisbane Australia

arved_grass
 

Look at the bottom of paint jars, but I'd start looking at Dark Copper (XF28), Flat Earth (XF58), Red Brown (XF64), and NATO Brown (XF68). Maybe Hull Red (XF9) for a more heavily rusted color. This recommendation was based on the color swatches here:

Tamiya color chart - Model paint database
 

 
Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida


From: "TS egroupstuff@... [SergentEng]"
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 
Thanks all for the replies.

Tamiya is available here. Not sure about how vast the spray can range is
though. Tru-colour I saw at an exhibition back in August, don't know
when I'll see that guy again. Can't say I've seen Vallejo in any shops,
but then again I don't get to shops a whole lot these days.

You've all given me a few things to look out for.

Cheers,

Tim
Land of OZ

On 26/10/2014 12:36, 'Jason McKee' jdmkee@... [SergentEng]
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I use Vallejo paints that I use for my military models, just be careful
> to protect the working surfaces of the couplers so they work without
> issues. I paint mine individually as I can vary the paint on each
> coupler slightly.
>
> Jason McKee
>
> Brisbane Australia



Mike Conder
 

There is nothing magic about the Rustoleum spray, other than it's overall high quality in sticking to metal and relatively fine pigment.  I would be very surprised if something similar was not available in Oz.  It is only a high quality red-brown metal primer used for the repair of auto body parts (wings, bonnets, hoods etc). 

And after watching my buddy from Oz drive, maybe you guys have a LOT more auto primer available ... 8^)

Mike Conder

Mike Van Hove
 

This is exactly what I have used, and it looks just fine.

Mike Van Hove

On Oct 25, 2014, at 3:01 AM, Arved Grass arved_grass@... [SergentEng] wrote:

 

You might try acrylic craft paints. Raw Sienna is pretty close to the Rustoleum color. Or whatever you use for "Box Car Brown" should work, too.

I have a can of the Rustoleum paint, but I'm afraid it's too thick. Going to take a lot of thinning to get it to come out of the airbrush. Fortunately, I don't scrape off a lot of the color from portions that are visible after assembly.
 
Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida


From: "lajrmdlr@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...>
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:47 AM
Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 
If you have places in the Land of Oz that can make paint take a "swatch" of any color to them. In the USA it cost me $5.00 USD for a pint of rust about 2 years ago. They could do water or petroleum based paint. Still have most of it left!
Andy Jackson
Bellflower CA




Tim L
 

Yes there is a couple of red/brown primers. I didn't check out the auto
store but did check out the big chain hardware store (Bunnings for those
here in Oz). I looked for the Rustoleum as I already knew the colour
was good. What I didn't want to do was spend $12 - 16 on a spray can of
red-brown primer and find the colour wasn't good.

Tim
Land of Oz

On 27/10/2014 02:11, Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng] wrote:
There is nothing magic about the Rustoleum spray, other than it's
overall high quality in sticking to metal and relatively fine pigment.
I would be very surprised if something similar was not available in Oz.
It is only a high quality red-brown metal primer used for the repair of
auto body parts (wings, bonnets, hoods etc).


And after watching my buddy from Oz drive, maybe you guys have a LOT
more auto primer available ... 8^)

Mike Conder

Mike Conder
 

Dang, expensive paint?  Over hear a large can typically costs $4-6 for the top quality, some only $1-2.  

I think any good red-brown would be fine.   If it isn't perfect, at least the metal is primed and will take acrylics or pastels well without the paint coming off. 

Mike Conder

Peter Burr
 

Good Lord! Is that how much spray primer costs down there? 

--

Rob Barker
 

Yup.  Expensive paint is the price we pay for living in paradise.   (a gallon of a quality house paint is well over 50 bucks.)

As for primers...   let me second Vallejo - their surface primers come in both a red-brown and a dark-gray.  I find both good bases but am only starting to work with them on Sergents.   So far so good.  (They are water-based polyurethane so easy clean up)

And yes, even in Sydney they are hard to find.   Shops that specialise in trains don't stock Vallejo and the only general hobby shop I knew of, was slow to re-stock anything and ....  well went out of business (go figure!)

Slave to Painting is a great source for us down under:

Rob Barker
Sydney AU (as in you need gold to buy paint)



On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Peter Burr pburr47@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Good Lord! Is that how much spray primer costs down there? 

--


Jason McKee <jdmkee@...>
 

Hey guys,

I suggested Vallejo paints as a user.  I have found some of the best value can be had by buying the packs of paint, there are certain sets, a rust and oil set could have all the colors you need for all sorts of things not just couplers. I also have an online store that sells the Vallejo paints, and I can get almost all the colors all the time.  Contact me privately off list and I can let you know prices and such.  It normally takes me a few days to get the colors.

(Hope it is ok to mention the business that I run on here, I started it out of frustration of not being able to get things locally for a good price, if not ok, please delete this post)

Thanks

 

Jason

Brisbane

 

From: SergentEng@... [mailto:SergentEng@...]
Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 1:55 PM
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 

 

Yup.  Expensive paint is the price we pay for living in paradise.   (a gallon of a quality house paint is well over 50 bucks.)

 

As for primers...   let me second Vallejo - their surface primers come in both a red-brown and a dark-gray.  I find both good bases but am only starting to work with them on Sergents.   So far so good.  (They are water-based polyurethane so easy clean up)

 

And yes, even in Sydney they are hard to find.   Shops that specialise in trains don't stock Vallejo and the only general hobby shop I knew of, was slow to re-stock anything and ....  well went out of business (go figure!)

 

Slave to Painting is a great source for us down under:

 

Rob Barker

Sydney AU (as in you need gold to buy paint)

 

 

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Peter Burr pburr47@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 

Good Lord! Is that how much spray primer costs down there? 

--

 

Mike Conder
 

Vallejo has a metal primer that's reddish?  Way cool!   Now all I have to do it is find some around here. 

Mike Conder

Jason Mckee <jdmkee@...>
 

I will check when i get home but it is a german ww2 primer. I will get the number of it when i get home

Jason

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-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng]"
Date:27/10/2014 15:12 (GMT+10:00)
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 

Vallejo has a metal primer that's reddish?  Way cool!   Now all I have to do it is find some around here. 


Mike Conder

Rob Barker
 

It's called German Red-Brown.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Jason Mckee jdmkee@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

I will check when i get home but it is a german ww2 primer. I will get the number of it when i get home

Jason

Sent from Samsung Mobile


-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng]"
Date:27/10/2014 15:12 (GMT+10:00)
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 

Vallejo has a metal primer that's reddish?  Way cool!   Now all I have to do it is find some around here. 


Mike Conder


Jason McKee <jdmkee@...>
 

Yup right on the money, if you are looking for it at your hobby shop it is number 605, and comes in different sizes from 17ml, 60ml and 200ml

 

Hope that helps you out guys

 

Jason

 

From: SergentEng@... [mailto:SergentEng@...]
Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 3:49 PM
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 

 

It's called German Red-Brown.

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Jason Mckee jdmkee@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 

I will check when i get home but it is a german ww2 primer. I will get the number of it when i get home

 

Jason

 

Sent from Samsung Mobile

 

-------- Original message --------

From: "Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng]"

Date:27/10/2014 15:12 (GMT+10:00)

Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 

 

Vallejo has a metal primer that's reddish?  Way cool!   Now all I have to do it is find some around here. 

 

Mike Conder

 

arved_grass
 

Here are all the Vallejo Surface Primer colors:

http://cdn.acrylicosvallejo.com/fdb5e61023e041fcb0a6e84bedf64e72/primers-ccw.pdf

I'd say 604 (German Dark Yellow) and 606 (German Green Brown) look pretty promising, but aren't oxide red.

With spray cans, I'd be concerned about how heavy the paint comes out. You don't want to clog the coupler with paint! I'd seriously consider upgrading to an air brush. Even a cheap airbrush run off canned air would be better than any spray can I've ever used.

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Mon, 10/27/14, Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers
To: "SergentEng@..." <SergentEng@...>
Date: Monday, October 27, 2014, 1:12 AM

Vallejo has a metal primer that's reddish? 
Way cool!   Now all I have to do it is find some around
here. 
Mike Conder

arved_grass
 

My monitor must be way out of calibration. 605 looks very purplish on the color chart. I hope it looks better in real life!

All the best,

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Mon, 10/27/14, 'Jason McKee' jdmkee@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers
To: SergentEng@...
Date: Monday, October 27, 2014, 3:32 AM

Yup right on the
money, if you are looking for it at your hobby shop it is
number 605, and comes in different sizes from 17ml, 60ml and
200ml  Hope that helps you
out guys  Jason
 From: SergentEng@...
[mailto:SergentEng@...]
Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 3:49 PM
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for
couplers    It's called German
Red-Brown.
 On Mon, Oct 27,
2014 at 4:20 PM, Jason Mckee jdmkee@...
[SergentEng] <SergentEng@...>
wrote:  I
will check when i get home but it is a german ww2 primer. I
will get the number of it when i get home
 Jason
 Sent from Samsung
Mobile
 -------- Original message
--------From: "Mike Conder vulturenest1@...
[SergentEng]" Date:27/10/2014 15:12 (GMT+10:00)
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re:
Paint for couplers
   Vallejo has a metal primer
that's reddish?  Way cool!   Now all I have to do it
is find some around here. 
 Mike
Conder  










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Mike Conder
 

That Vallejo line just keeps sounding better and better ... maybe some day they will come out with labeled RR colors, but in the meantime I use them a LOT.

Mike Conder

Christopher Zurek
 

I noticed the same thing on my HP laptop screen.

Chris Z.


From: "Arved Grass arved_grass@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@yahoogroups.com>
To: SergentEng@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 8:58:18 AM
Subject: RE: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers

 

My monitor must be way out of calibration. 605 looks very purplish on the color chart. I hope it looks better in real life!

All the best,

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@I-Do-Photography.com
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Mon, 10/27/14, 'Jason McKee' jdmkee@optusnet.com.au [SergentEng] <SergentEng@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for couplers
To: SergentEng@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 27, 2014, 3:32 AM

Yup right on the
money, if you are looking for it at your hobby shop it is
number 605, and comes in different sizes from 17ml, 60ml and
200ml  Hope that helps you
out guys  Jason
 From: SergentEng@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:SergentEng@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 3:49 PM
To: SergentEng@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: Paint for
couplers    It's called German
Red-Brown.
 On Mon, Oct 27,
2014 at 4:20 PM, Jason Mckee jdmkee@optusnet.com.au
[SergentEng] <SergentEng@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:  I
will check when i get home but it is a german ww2 primer. I
will get the number of it when i get home
 Jason
 Sent from Samsung
Mobile