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Re: Membership Application

Andrew
 

Actually,

Its going to everyone on the Sergent Engineering groups.io list.  I’m not the moderator, but conducting brass locomotive /equipment sales via the list seems abit off topic (probably unintentionally)

Your individual email addresses appear within this email chain, so I have BCC’d you (this may or may not work).

That all said, I would be interested in having a look at John’s brass list since its been brought up.

Andrew Porter



On Sunday, May 27, 2018, 7:25 AM, Peter Burr <pburr47@...> wrote:

John, for some reason this came to me instead of Peter York. I’m not currently looking for brass.

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 10:06 PM Peter York via Groups.Io <peterdyork=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
John, sent you this email last night. Guess you didn’t get it. What’s your direct email?

Hi John,

Sorry to be late in responding. We have just begun a major remodel of our house and things have been a little hectic around here.

Can you give me a little more information on the following models, i.e., price, condition, Key custom series #, etc. Photos would be nice. Even just the box label; then I could do further research on them.

Key
AC-5 SP Early
AC-6 SP Modern Cab
AC-9 SP #3800 Coal
2-6-6-2 SP
FA1/FB1 UP Alco

Oriental
E-6A UP
E-6B UP

Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions.

Best regards,

Peter


On May 25, 2018, at 11:31 AM, John Claudino <aztecmfg@...> wrote:

Peter,

Did you see anything on my brass list that you are interested in?

John

AZTEC MANUFACTURING CO.
Phone  775-883-3327   •   Fax  775-883-3357
Email  aztecmfg@...   •   Web  www.aztectrains.com 
The world's finest model railroad track cleaners from Z to G 



On May 2, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Peter York via Groups.Io <peterdyork@...> wrote:

My name is Peter York and I live in Dallas, TX. 

I collect brass model trains in all gauges (Gauge 1, O, HO and N). My preference is for articulated steam (all roads), UP diesels and turbines and unique and unusual rolling stock. I currently own approximately 400 models.

My reason for joining this group is I have always wanted my models to be as accurate to scale and prototype as possible, and Sergent couplers are a perfect addition to any of my HO models.

I would be happy to provide references if you need them, as I am personal friends with most importers.

Thank you for your consideration.

Peter York




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Re: Membership Application

Andrew
 

Well,

Thats what I get for replying before coffee.

John and Peter,

Ive Emailed you separately.

Andrew




On Sunday, May 27, 2018, 7:57 AM, ihtsbih_2014 via Groups.Io <ihtsbih_2014@...> wrote:

Actually,

Its going to everyone on the Sergent Engineering groups.io list.  I’m not the moderator, but conducting brass locomotive /equipment sales via the list seems abit off topic (probably unintentionally)

Your individual email addresses appear within this email chain, so I have BCC’d you (this may or may not work).

That all said, I would be interested in having a look at John’s brass list since its been brought up.

Andrew Porter



On Sunday, May 27, 2018, 7:25 AM, Peter Burr <pburr47@...> wrote:

John, for some reason this came to me instead of Peter York. I’m not currently looking for brass.

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 10:06 PM Peter York via Groups.Io <peterdyork=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
John, sent you this email last night. Guess you didn’t get it. What’s your direct email?

Hi John,

Sorry to be late in responding. We have just begun a major remodel of our house and things have been a little hectic around here.

Can you give me a little more information on the following models, i.e., price, condition, Key custom series #, etc. Photos would be nice. Even just the box label; then I could do further research on them.

Key
AC-5 SP Early
AC-6 SP Modern Cab
AC-9 SP #3800 Coal
2-6-6-2 SP
FA1/FB1 UP Alco

Oriental
E-6A UP
E-6B UP

Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions.

Best regards,

Peter


On May 25, 2018, at 11:31 AM, John Claudino <aztecmfg@...> wrote:

Peter,

Did you see anything on my brass list that you are interested in?

John

AZTEC MANUFACTURING CO.
Phone  775-883-3327   •   Fax  775-883-3357
Email  aztecmfg@...   •   Web  www.aztectrains.com 
The world's finest model railroad track cleaners from Z to G 



On May 2, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Peter York via Groups.Io <peterdyork@...> wrote:

My name is Peter York and I live in Dallas, TX. 

I collect brass model trains in all gauges (Gauge 1, O, HO and N). My preference is for articulated steam (all roads), UP diesels and turbines and unique and unusual rolling stock. I currently own approximately 400 models.

My reason for joining this group is I have always wanted my models to be as accurate to scale and prototype as possible, and Sergent couplers are a perfect addition to any of my HO models.

I would be happy to provide references if you need them, as I am personal friends with most importers.

Thank you for your consideration.

Peter York




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Pending member

Vic Lewis
 

I'm a HO Scale models converting to Sergent couplers as i can. 

Great looking couplers! 


Vic Lewis, Proprietor
Bald Clam Car and Locomotive Shop
Florence, SC

membership

Daniel van Aggelen
 

Hello to all of you,

This is my third attempt to contact you. As you can see in the mail address I am living in The Netherlands. The reason I apply is that some years ago I bought EN87A couplers for my On2 Gilpin railroad. I have sold all equipment but removed the couplers. So I had enough for 25 cars. I hoped they would be correct for my On3 South Park railroad around 1885, but they are too small.

Sheldon Schwedler of Coronado Scale models advised the S couplers as being almost correct for the 3/4 size coupler. (I do not like Kadee’s and the new San Juan couplers are too big for my chosen period.) I ordered S couplers for 4 cars; the Smoky Mountain boxes arrived this week. I hope I can start assembly and testing in a few weeks.
I hope to learn from the experience of others about the couplers, especially on eventual troubleshooting. No one over here (also those who model US railroads) uses them or even know of their existence.

Kind regards,

Daniel van Aggelen

Re: membership

Andrew
 

Daniel,

Welcome to the group.  I just visited a great DSP&P layout in On3.  The owner uses Sergent S scale couplers and they looked pretty good to my eye.  

Andrew



On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 4:01 PM, Daniel van Aggelen <d.van.aggelen@...> wrote:

Hello to all of you,

This is my third attempt to contact you. As you can see in the mail address I am living in The Netherlands. The reason I apply is that some years ago I bought EN87A couplers for my On2 Gilpin railroad. I have sold all equipment but removed the couplers.  So I had enough for 25 cars. I hoped they would be correct for my On3 South Park railroad around 1885, but they are too small.

Sheldon Schwedler of Coronado Scale models advised the S couplers as being almost correct for the 3/4 size coupler. (I do not like Kadee’s and the new San Juan couplers are too big for my chosen period.) I ordered S couplers for 4 cars; the Smoky Mountain boxes arrived this week. I hope I can start assembly and testing in a few weeks.
I hope to learn from the experience of others about the couplers, especially on eventual troubleshooting. No one over here (also those who model US railroads) uses them or even know of their existence.

Kind regards,

Daniel van Aggelen

Re: membership

John Niemeyer
 

Daniel

If you tried to contact us 3 times. We didn't see it. So far I haven't denied anyone for membership. Something fell thru the cracks, because I don't see anything from you previously.

Welcome to the group.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

John Niemeyer
Group owner/Moderator


Hello to all of you,

This is my third attempt to contact you. As you can see in the mail address I am living in The Netherlands. The reason I apply is that some years ago I bought EN87A couplers for my On2 Gilpin railroad. I have sold all equipment but removed the couplers. So I had enough for 25 cars. I hoped they would be correct for my On3 South Park railroad around 1885, but they are too small.

Sheldon Schwedler of Coronado Scale models advised the S couplers as being almost correct for the 3/4 size coupler. (I do not like Kadee’s and the new San Juan couplers are too big for my chosen period.) I ordered S couplers for 4 cars; the Smoky Mountain boxes arrived this week. I hope I can start assembly and testing in a few weeks.
I hope to learn from the experience of others about the couplers, especially on eventual troubleshooting. No one over here (also those who model US railroads) uses them or even know of their existence.

Kind regards,

Daniel van Aggelen

Re: membership

George
 

Not sure who’s layout you visited, but if it was mine, they were HO Sergents. 


On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:37 PM, ihtsbih_2014 via Groups.Io <ihtsbih_2014@...> wrote:

Daniel,

Welcome to the group.  I just visited a great DSP&P layout in On3.  The owner uses Sergent S scale couplers and they looked pretty good to my eye.  

Andrew



On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 4:01 PM, Daniel van Aggelen <d.van.aggelen@...> wrote:

Hello to all of you,

This is my third attempt to contact you. As you can see in the mail address I am living in The Netherlands. The reason I apply is that some years ago I bought EN87A couplers for my On2 Gilpin railroad. I have sold all equipment but removed the couplers.  So I had enough for 25 cars. I hoped they would be correct for my On3 South Park railroad around 1885, but they are too small.

Sheldon Schwedler of Coronado Scale models advised the S couplers as being almost correct for the 3/4 size coupler. (I do not like Kadee’s and the new San Juan couplers are too big for my chosen period.) I ordered S couplers for 4 cars; the Smoky Mountain boxes arrived this week. I hope I can start assembly and testing in a few weeks.
I hope to learn from the experience of others about the couplers, especially on eventual troubleshooting. No one over here (also those who model US railroads) uses them or even know of their existence.

Kind regards,

Daniel van Aggelen

Re: membership

Andrew
 

George 
Well if your layout was open last Saturday,  then it was yours.  And the couplers looked great to me.

Andrew



On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 7:51 PM, George <gsebastiancoleman@...> wrote:

Not sure who’s layout you visited, but if it was mine, they were HO Sergents. 


On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:37 PM, ihtsbih_2014 via Groups.Io <ihtsbih_2014@...> wrote:

Daniel,

Welcome to the group.  I just visited a great DSP&P layout in On3.  The owner uses Sergent S scale couplers and they looked pretty good to my eye.  

Andrew



On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 4:01 PM, Daniel van Aggelen <d.van.aggelen@...> wrote:

Hello to all of you,

This is my third attempt to contact you. As you can see in the mail address I am living in The Netherlands. The reason I apply is that some years ago I bought EN87A couplers for my On2 Gilpin railroad. I have sold all equipment but removed the couplers.  So I had enough for 25 cars. I hoped they would be correct for my On3 South Park railroad around 1885, but they are too small.

Sheldon Schwedler of Coronado Scale models advised the S couplers as being almost correct for the 3/4 size coupler. (I do not like Kadee’s and the new San Juan couplers are too big for my chosen period.) I ordered S couplers for 4 cars; the Smoky Mountain boxes arrived this week. I hope I can start assembly and testing in a few weeks.
I hope to learn from the experience of others about the couplers, especially on eventual troubleshooting. No one over here (also those who model US railroads) uses them or even know of their existence.

Kind regards,

Daniel van Aggelen

Sergent Couplers for sale,

Jason McKee <jasmckee@...>
 

Hi Guys,

Hope this is ok, if there is anyone in New Zealand who would be interested I have my sergent couplers for sale, I have type e, lower shelf, double shelf and tightloks, I am getting out of the hobby as I have no space for a layout, if anyone is interested please email me off list

 

Thanks

Jason

 

From: SergentEngineering@groups.io <SergentEngineering@groups.io> On Behalf Of ihtsbih_2014 via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:47 PM
To: SergentEngineering@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] membership

 

George 

Well if your layout was open last Saturday,  then it was yours.  And the couplers looked great to me.

Andrew


On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 7:51 PM, George <gsebastiancoleman@...> wrote:

Not sure who’s layout you visited, but if it was mine, they were HO Sergents. 


On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:37 PM, ihtsbih_2014 via Groups.Io <ihtsbih_2014@...> wrote:

Daniel,

 

Welcome to the group.  I just visited a great DSP&P layout in On3.  The owner uses Sergent S scale couplers and they looked pretty good to my eye.  

 

Andrew



On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 4:01 PM, Daniel van Aggelen <d.van.aggelen@...> wrote:

Hello to all of you,

 

This is my third attempt to contact you. As you can see in the mail address I am living in The Netherlands. The reason I apply is that some years ago I bought EN87A couplers for my On2 Gilpin railroad. I have sold all equipment but removed the couplers.  So I had enough for 25 cars. I hoped they would be correct for my On3 South Park railroad around 1885, but they are too small.

 

Sheldon Schwedler of Coronado Scale models advised the S couplers as being almost correct for the 3/4 size coupler. (I do not like Kadee’s and the new San Juan couplers are too big for my chosen period.) I ordered S couplers for 4 cars; the Smoky Mountain boxes arrived this week. I hope I can start assembly and testing in a few weeks.

I hope to learn from the experience of others about the couplers, especially on eventual troubleshooting. No one over here (also those who model US railroads) uses them or even know of their existence.

 

Kind regards,

 

Daniel van Aggelen

 

Re: membership

George
 

That was mine. Thanks. 


On Jun 20, 2018, at 9:47 PM, ihtsbih_2014 via Groups.Io <ihtsbih_2014@...> wrote:

George 
Well if your layout was open last Saturday,  then it was yours.  And the couplers looked great to me.

Andrew



On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 7:51 PM, George <gsebastiancoleman@...> wrote:

Not sure who’s layout you visited, but if it was mine, they were HO Sergents. 


On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:37 PM, ihtsbih_2014 via Groups.Io <ihtsbih_2014@...> wrote:

Daniel,

Welcome to the group.  I just visited a great DSP&P layout in On3.  The owner uses Sergent S scale couplers and they looked pretty good to my eye.  

Andrew



On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 4:01 PM, Daniel van Aggelen <d.van.aggelen@...> wrote:

Hello to all of you,

This is my third attempt to contact you. As you can see in the mail address I am living in The Netherlands. The reason I apply is that some years ago I bought EN87A couplers for my On2 Gilpin railroad. I have sold all equipment but removed the couplers.  So I had enough for 25 cars. I hoped they would be correct for my On3 South Park railroad around 1885, but they are too small.

Sheldon Schwedler of Coronado Scale models advised the S couplers as being almost correct for the 3/4 size coupler. (I do not like Kadee’s and the new San Juan couplers are too big for my chosen period.) I ordered S couplers for 4 cars; the Smoky Mountain boxes arrived this week. I hope I can start assembly and testing in a few weeks.
I hope to learn from the experience of others about the couplers, especially on eventual troubleshooting. No one over here (also those who model US railroads) uses them or even know of their existence.

Kind regards,

Daniel van Aggelen

Sergent Engineering Couplers

Robert J. Amsler, Jr.
 

I model in HO and I just bought some couplers.  I am interested in the future of the couplers now that I know Frank intends to stop producing them.

 

Robert J. Amsler, Jr.

514 Dover Place

Saint Louis, Missouri 63111

(314) 606-6118  (Telephone)

(314) 754-2688  (Facsimile)

ramsler@...

 

 

Re: Sergent Engineering Couplers

Nathan Rich
 

Frank is stopping production? I haven't read anything that suggests that. Source please?

Nathan Rich

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Robert J. Amsler, Jr. <mpfan1@...> wrote:

I model in HO and I just bought some couplers.  I am interested in the future of the couplers now that I know Frank intends to stop producing them.

 

Robert J. Amsler, Jr.

514 Dover Place

Saint Louis, Missouri 63111

(314) 606-6118  (Telephone)

(314) 754-2688  (Facsimile)

ramsler@...

 

 


Re: Sergent Engineering Couplers

Alan Hummel
 

Frank is looking to have someone buy him out,or using his drawings,make couplers like his to my understanding. He's not pulling out,but is looking to leave the coupler business but wants to see his couplers fall into a new manufacturer's hands so his coupler line continues into the future. 

I admit having thoughts of how long his coupler line will remain available,myself. What's REALLY concerning me,is noone has seemingly shown much interest in the project. These couplers are a milestone to HO Scale. The next thing that's on the way are Prototypical working ground throw switchstands with targets from ALL ABOARD TRAINS. These are a ways off as the 1st 'stands are being made in O Scale 1st,but the company's owner hopes to make an HO Model in the future.

Alan Hummel

Re: Sergent Engineering Couplers

Randall Vos
 

I thought Frank said a while back that he had a few companies interested in his business?



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Alan Hummel via Groups.Io" <ahummel72@...>
Date: 7/10/18 2:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: sergentengineering@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers

Frank is looking to have someone buy him out,or using his drawings,make couplers like his to my understanding. He's not pulling out,but is looking to leave the coupler business but wants to see his couplers fall into a new manufacturer's hands so his coupler line continues into the future. 

I admit having thoughts of how long his coupler line will remain available,myself. What's REALLY concerning me,is noone has seemingly shown much interest in the project. These couplers are a milestone to HO Scale. The next thing that's on the way are Prototypical working ground throw switchstands with targets from ALL ABOARD TRAINS. These are a ways off as the 1st 'stands are being made in O Scale 1st,but the company's owner hopes to make an HO Model in the future.

Alan Hummel

Re: Sergent Engineering Couplers

Alan Hummel
 

To all,

Early on when Frank made his couplers available to new marketers,1 person from oversees was interested but thought the cost for oversees shipping was too much.

I'm curious with seriousness:how much would it take to buy Frank out? I'm 60,not in the best of health can't find any work because of my health,love railroading,maybe this would be what I need.(?)

Al Hummel

On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 8:32:00 PM EDT, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979@...> wrote:


I thought Frank said a while back that he had a few companies interested in his business?



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From: "Alan Hummel via Groups.Io" <ahummel72@...>
Date: 7/10/18 2:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: sergentengineering@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers

Frank is looking to have someone buy him out,or using his drawings,make couplers like his to my understanding. He's not pulling out,but is looking to leave the coupler business but wants to see his couplers fall into a new manufacturer's hands so his coupler line continues into the future. 

I admit having thoughts of how long his coupler line will remain available,myself. What's REALLY concerning me,is noone has seemingly shown much interest in the project. These couplers are a milestone to HO Scale. The next thing that's on the way are Prototypical working ground throw switchstands with targets from ALL ABOARD TRAINS. These are a ways off as the 1st 'stands are being made in O Scale 1st,but the company's owner hopes to make an HO Model in the future.

Alan Hummel

Re: Sergent Engineering Couplers

Paul Dallard
 

How much would he want for his business?

An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. - Buddha



On Jul 11, 2018, at 11:09, Alan Hummel via Groups.Io <ahummel72@...> wrote:

To all,

Early on when Frank made his couplers available to new marketers,1 person from oversees was interested but thought the cost for oversees shipping was too much.

I'm curious with seriousness:how much would it take to buy Frank out? I'm 60,not in the best of health can't find any work because of my health,love railroading,maybe this would be what I need.(?)

Al Hummel

On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 8:32:00 PM EDT, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979@...> wrote:


I thought Frank said a while back that he had a few companies interested in his business?



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Alan Hummel via Groups.Io" <ahummel72@...>
Date: 7/10/18 2:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers

Frank is looking to have someone buy him out,or using his drawings,make couplers like his to my understanding. He's not pulling out,but is looking to leave the coupler business but wants to see his couplers fall into a new manufacturer's hands so his coupler line continues into the future. 

I admit having thoughts of how long his coupler line will remain available,myself. What's REALLY concerning me,is noone has seemingly shown much interest in the project. These couplers are a milestone to HO Scale. The next thing that's on the way are Prototypical working ground throw switchstands with targets from ALL ABOARD TRAINS. These are a ways off as the 1st 'stands are being made in O Scale 1st,but the company's owner hopes to make an HO Model in the future.

Alan Hummel

Re: Sergent Engineering Couplers

Frank Sergent
 

Hi All,
 
Let me restate what I have said before and give an update.
 
I did say I would eventually get out of the coupler making business. Wheels are slowing turning in that direction now. I have put all my designs in the public domain. Several folks have downloaded those designs and I know some have tried to 3D print these with varying levels of success. Printing the couplers is just the first step. No one has of yet demonstrated they can do this well, but there is interest. Casting them in metal is the real trick that requires an investment in equipment (not my equipment, its mine, mine, mine). That's probably about $10k worth of cool stuff (that can also be used to make things other than couplers) if purchased new. A dedicated workspace will also be needed (I do it in my basement) where you can vent fumes outside. There are a few skills you will need or need to develop as well such as 3D CAD, 3D Printing, urethane casting, basic metal (small lathe and mill probably necessary and included in the $10k), electrical (dedicated outlets, temperature control wiring), and plumbing (devest station) skills. Several folks believe a useful product might be created in raw 3D printed plastic. Maybe so. We'll see I guess. As I gain confidence that someone is on the right track and willing to make an investment, I will slowly discontinue 3D printed items, otherwise there will be little reason for anyone to make that initial investment in equipment. When I see success in making the 3D printed / investment cast couplers, then I'll offer to sell them the tooling for the die cast products at a price they can't refuse. Then that lucky person will get filthy rich. OK. Maybe not filthy rich, but the initial investment will easily be paid off within 12 months (probably 6)  assuming you're not paying somebody else to do the work.
 
Bottom line is that I don't want money for the product line. I want somebody to prove they have passion about it. Making these things is real work and takes real time. You're not going to be able to quit your day job. You will end up with a small pile of extra cash. If you think its a great deal because of the extra cash, you might find you would rather have extra time instead of extra cash.
 
I have promised a few folks that I will eventually add a section to my website that describes how I make the couplers in detail. I will do that.
 
Bottom, bottom line is that it is not my intent to let the product line die. If you would in anyway consider buying the business (which is not for sell), why not consider purchasing some equipment, dedicating some space, figuring out how to make the product, and creating your own business that sells the product? I'll help any way I can toward that effort.
 
Frank
 

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Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers
From: "Paul Dallard via Groups.Io" <shield1751@...>
Date: 7/11/18 12:00 pm
To: SergentEngineering@groups.io

How much would he want for his business?

An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. - Buddha

 

On Jul 11, 2018, at 11:09, Alan Hummel via Groups.Io <ahummel72@...> wrote:

 
To all,
 
Early on when Frank made his couplers available to new marketers,1 person from oversees was interested but thought the cost for oversees shipping was too much.
 
I'm curious with seriousness:how much would it take to buy Frank out? I'm 60,not in the best of health can't find any work because of my health,love railroading,maybe this would be what I need.(?)
 
Al Hummel
 
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 8:32:00 PM EDT, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979@...> wrote:
 
 
I thought Frank said a while back that he had a few companies interested in his business?
 
 
 
Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
 
-------- Original message --------
From: "Alan Hummel via Groups.Io" <ahummel72@...>
Date: 7/10/18 2:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers
 
Frank is looking to have someone buy him out,or using his drawings,make couplers like his to my understanding. He's not pulling out,but is looking to leave the coupler business but wants to see his couplers fall into a new manufacturer's hands so his coupler line continues into the future. 
 
I admit having thoughts of how long his coupler line will remain available,myself. What's REALLY concerning me,is noone has seemingly shown much interest in the project. These couplers are a milestone to HO Scale. The next thing that's on the way are Prototypical working ground throw switchstands with targets from ALL ABOARD TRAINS. These are a ways off as the 1st 'stands are being made in O Scale 1st,but the company's owner hopes to make an HO Model in the future.
 
Alan Hummel
 
 

Re: Sergent Engineering Couplers

Scott Reinert <srlinesrr@...>
 

Frank Sergent

Could you please email me. I have some questions regarding your couplers, past and present. I have interest in your wonderful line of couplers and might be able to expand it.

Thank you
Scott Reinert



On July 11, 2018, at 1:21 PM, Frank Sergent <fsergent@...> wrote:


Hi All,
 
Let me restate what I have said before and give an update.
 
I did say I would eventually get out of the coupler making business. Wheels are slowing turning in that direction now. I have put all my designs in the public domain. Several folks have downloaded those designs and I know some have tried to 3D print these with varying levels of success. Printing the couplers is just the first step. No one has of yet demonstrated they can do this well, but there is interest. Casting them in metal is the real trick that requires an investment in equipment (not my equipment, its mine, mine, mine). That's probably about $10k worth of cool stuff (that can also be used to make things other than couplers) if purchased new. A dedicated workspace will also be needed (I do it in my basement) where you can vent fumes outside. There are a few skills you will need or need to develop as well such as 3D CAD, 3D Printing, urethane casting, basic metal (small lathe and mill probably necessary and included in the $10k), electrical (dedicated outlets, temperature control wiring), and plumbing (devest station) skills. Several folks believe a useful product might be created in raw 3D printed plastic. Maybe so. We'll see I guess. As I gain confidence that someone is on the right track and willing to make an investment, I will slowly discontinue 3D printed items, otherwise there will be little reason for anyone to make that initial investment in equipment. When I see success in making the 3D printed / investment cast couplers, then I'll offer to sell them the tooling for the die cast products at a price they can't refuse. Then that lucky person will get filthy rich. OK. Maybe not filthy rich, but the initial investment will easily be paid off within 12 months (probably 6)  assuming you're not paying somebody else to do the work.
 
Bottom line is that I don't want money for the product line. I want somebody to prove they have passion about it. Making these things is real work and takes real time. You're not going to be able to quit your day job. You will end up with a small pile of extra cash. If you think its a great deal because of the extra cash, you might find you would rather have extra time instead of extra cash.
 
I have promised a few folks that I will eventually add a section to my website that describes how I make the couplers in detail. I will do that.
 
Bottom, bottom line is that it is not my intent to let the product line die. If you would in anyway consider buying the business (which is not for sell), why not consider purchasing some equipment, dedicating some space, figuring out how to make the product, and creating your own business that sells the product? I'll help any way I can toward that effort.
 
Frank
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers
From: "Paul Dallard via Groups.Io" <shield1751=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Date: 7/11/18 12:00 pm
To: SergentEngineering@groups.io

How much would he want for his business?

An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. - Buddha

 

On Jul 11, 2018, at 11:09, Alan Hummel via Groups.Io <ahummel72@...> wrote:

 
To all,
 
Early on when Frank made his couplers available to new marketers,1 person from oversees was interested but thought the cost for oversees shipping was too much.
 
I'm curious with seriousness:how much would it take to buy Frank out? I'm 60,not in the best of health can't find any work because of my health,love railroading,maybe this would be what I need.(?)
 
Al Hummel
 
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 8:32:00 PM EDT, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979@...> wrote:
 
 
I thought Frank said a while back that he had a few companies interested in his business?
 
 
 
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-------- Original message --------
From: "Alan Hummel via Groups.Io" <ahummel72@...>
Date: 7/10/18 2:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers
 
Frank is looking to have someone buy him out,or using his drawings,make couplers like his to my understanding. He's not pulling out,but is looking to leave the coupler business but wants to see his couplers fall into a new manufacturer's hands so his coupler line continues into the future. 
 
I admit having thoughts of how long his coupler line will remain available,myself. What's REALLY concerning me,is noone has seemingly shown much interest in the project. These couplers are a milestone to HO Scale. The next thing that's on the way are Prototypical working ground throw switchstands with targets from ALL ABOARD TRAINS. These are a ways off as the 1st 'stands are being made in O Scale 1st,but the company's owner hopes to make an HO Model in the future.
 
Alan Hummel
 
 

Re: Sergent Engineering Couplers

L. J. Casey
 

wonder if the entire 'company' can be financed and run by a committee....(ha ....yeah..I know that sounds silly)

LJ Casey
Maryville,IL

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Paul Dallard via Groups.Io <shield1751@...> wrote:
How much would he want for his business?

An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. - Buddha



On Jul 11, 2018, at 11:09, Alan Hummel via Groups.Io <ahummel72@...> wrote:

To all,

Early on when Frank made his couplers available to new marketers,1 person from oversees was interested but thought the cost for oversees shipping was too much.

I'm curious with seriousness:how much would it take to buy Frank out? I'm 60,not in the best of health can't find any work because of my health,love railroading,maybe this would be what I need.(?)

Al Hummel

On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 8:32:00 PM EDT, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979@...> wrote:


I thought Frank said a while back that he had a few companies interested in his business?



Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "Alan Hummel via Groups.Io" <ahummel72@...>
Date: 7/10/18 2:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers

Frank is looking to have someone buy him out,or using his drawings,make couplers like his to my understanding. He's not pulling out,but is looking to leave the coupler business but wants to see his couplers fall into a new manufacturer's hands so his coupler line continues into the future. 

I admit having thoughts of how long his coupler line will remain available,myself. What's REALLY concerning me,is noone has seemingly shown much interest in the project. These couplers are a milestone to HO Scale. The next thing that's on the way are Prototypical working ground throw switchstands with targets from ALL ABOARD TRAINS. These are a ways off as the 1st 'stands are being made in O Scale 1st,but the company's owner hopes to make an HO Model in the future.

Alan Hummel




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Loren Casey
Maryville,IL

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Loren Casey
Maryville, IL

Re: Sergent Engineering Couplers

L. J. Casey
 

interesting question regarding the 3d printing.    what is the problem so far with people printing in 3d?   tolerance, or material strength.    I know there are some metal filaments available with different metal types in 'suspension' with the PLA or whatever.   Has that been tried?   perhaps that has no more inherent strength than straight PLA or whatever.   I also doubt it allows any finer tolerances.   Just wondering aloud.    I have a mostly put together home 3d printer, but haven't learned any CAD yet.   I would assume that a typical home 3d printer has insufficient precision to allow the tolerances needed amongst the parts, but would love to hear what you(Mr Sergent) has to say on the issue.

thanks,
LJ Casey
Maryville, IL
who is still only a dabbler as the railroad is not running yet.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Frank Sergent <fsergent@...> wrote:
Hi All,
 
Let me restate what I have said before and give an update.
 
I did say I would eventually get out of the coupler making business. Wheels are slowing turning in that direction now. I have put all my designs in the public domain. Several folks have downloaded those designs and I know some have tried to 3D print these with varying levels of success. Printing the couplers is just the first step. No one has of yet demonstrated they can do this well, but there is interest. Casting them in metal is the real trick that requires an investment in equipment (not my equipment, its mine, mine, mine). That's probably about $10k worth of cool stuff (that can also be used to make things other than couplers) if purchased new. A dedicated workspace will also be needed (I do it in my basement) where you can vent fumes outside. There are a few skills you will need or need to develop as well such as 3D CAD, 3D Printing, urethane casting, basic metal (small lathe and mill probably necessary and included in the $10k), electrical (dedicated outlets, temperature control wiring), and plumbing (devest station) skills. Several folks believe a useful product might be created in raw 3D printed plastic. Maybe so. We'll see I guess. As I gain confidence that someone is on the right track and willing to make an investment, I will slowly discontinue 3D printed items, otherwise there will be little reason for anyone to make that initial investment in equipment. When I see success in making the 3D printed / investment cast couplers, then I'll offer to sell them the tooling for the die cast products at a price they can't refuse. Then that lucky person will get filthy rich. OK. Maybe not filthy rich, but the initial investment will easily be paid off within 12 months (probably 6)  assuming you're not paying somebody else to do the work.
 
Bottom line is that I don't want money for the product line. I want somebody to prove they have passion about it. Making these things is real work and takes real time. You're not going to be able to quit your day job. You will end up with a small pile of extra cash. If you think its a great deal because of the extra cash, you might find you would rather have extra time instead of extra cash.
 
I have promised a few folks that I will eventually add a section to my website that describes how I make the couplers in detail. I will do that.
 
Bottom, bottom line is that it is not my intent to let the product line die. If you would in anyway consider buying the business (which is not for sell), why not consider purchasing some equipment, dedicating some space, figuring out how to make the product, and creating your own business that sells the product? I'll help any way I can toward that effort.
 
Frank
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers
From: "Paul Dallard via Groups.Io" <shield1751=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Date: 7/11/18 12:00 pm
To: SergentEngineering@groups.io

How much would he want for his business?

An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. - Buddha

 

On Jul 11, 2018, at 11:09, Alan Hummel via Groups.Io <ahummel72@...> wrote:

 
To all,
 
Early on when Frank made his couplers available to new marketers,1 person from oversees was interested but thought the cost for oversees shipping was too much.
 
I'm curious with seriousness:how much would it take to buy Frank out? I'm 60,not in the best of health can't find any work because of my health,love railroading,maybe this would be what I need.(?)
 
Al Hummel
 
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 8:32:00 PM EDT, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979@...> wrote:
 
 
I thought Frank said a while back that he had a few companies interested in his business?
 
 
 
Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
 
-------- Original message --------
From: "Alan Hummel via Groups.Io" <ahummel72@...>
Date: 7/10/18 2:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Sergent Engineering] Sergent Engineering Couplers
 
Frank is looking to have someone buy him out,or using his drawings,make couplers like his to my understanding. He's not pulling out,but is looking to leave the coupler business but wants to see his couplers fall into a new manufacturer's hands so his coupler line continues into the future. 
 
I admit having thoughts of how long his coupler line will remain available,myself. What's REALLY concerning me,is noone has seemingly shown much interest in the project. These couplers are a milestone to HO Scale. The next thing that's on the way are Prototypical working ground throw switchstands with targets from ALL ABOARD TRAINS. These are a ways off as the 1st 'stands are being made in O Scale 1st,but the company's owner hopes to make an HO Model in the future.
 
Alan Hummel
 
 




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Loren Casey
Maryville,IL

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Loren Casey
Maryville, IL