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Re: Slack action Was RE: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

Mike Van Hove
 

Andy,
I guess I never answered your question:
I think the only place you can buy Sergent Couplers is from Sergent, himself.

Maybe an email to him might shed some light on the various possibilities?

Mike Van Hove

On Sep 20, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Jeff Young jeff@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

This is also why I moved to Sergents.  They look better too, but it was the accordion effect that drove me to them.



On 20 Sep 2017, at 15:05, Mike Van Hove mvanhove@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Andy and John,

I agree that slack was/is a fact of life, but my point is that a (model) train moving at a constant speed, on level track, shouldn’t have the accordian effect.

With the KD Couplers, it’s often quite an effect, and the Sergents really don’t do that.  Or if they do, it’s barely noticeable.

Mike Van Hove





Slack action Was Where to purchase

John Niemeyer
 

I agree, coupler accordion/coupler bob is a real problem with Kadee 713 and 714 couplers as used in HOn3. I don’t model HO standard gauge, so I can’t speak for those.
 
There is another source for Sergent couplers http://www.proto87.com/HO_Proto87_true_scale_couplers.html
 
John
 
 
Andy,
I guess I never answered your question:
I think the only place you can buy Sergent Couplers is from Sergent, himself.
 
Maybe an email to him might shed some light on the various possibilities?
 
Mike Van Hove
 
 
This is also why I moved to Sergents.  They look better too, but it was the accordion effect that drove me to them.
 
 
 
Andy and John,
 
I agree that slack was/is a fact of life, but my point is that a (model) train moving at a constant speed, on level track, shouldn’t have the accordian effect.
With the KD Couplers, it’s often quite an effect, and the Sergents really don’t do that.  Or if they do, it’s barely noticeable.
 
Mike Van Hove

Re: Where to purchase

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
 

Sergent does not make an "O" scale coupler.  They do however make an "S" scale coupler.  The "S" coupler is 3/4 size "O" which is same as "On3".   Kadee does the same thing.  Their "On3' & "S" couplers are identical excepting the trip pin.

TCC:}

Re: Where to purchase

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
 

Mr Sergent does monitor this list.  As he has not answered the op's first email, he may be indisposed.

Re: [SergentEng] Re: Where to purchase

William Uffelman
 

D&RGW and C&S use full size couplers while SP and EBT used 3/4 size. That said the KD O scale full size is oversize so the On3 is close to SG size. 

The Sergent S coupler does work well in O narrow gauge applications.

Bill Uffelman 

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:03 PM, group_list@... [SergentEng]
wrote:
 

Sergent does not make an "O" scale coupler.  They do however make an "S" scale coupler.  The "S" coupler is 3/4 size "O" which is same as "On3".   Kadee does the same thing.  Their "On3' & "S" couplers are identical excepting the trip pin.


TCC:}

Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

Tom Colasurdo
 

All:

Thank you for the suggestions ... will give my direct e-mail to the website address a couple more days, just in case they are busy.

If not, I may break down and use PayPal; but I'll probably chicken out and send a letter/check.

V/r,
Tom C.



From: "Bill Keene wakeene@... [SergentEng]"
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

 
Hi Tom,

When I first started purchasing Sergent Couplers, I did not have a PayPal account. I simply wrote a letter describing my order and enclosed a check for the proper amount to the address on the web site. Within just a few days, my order arrived. 

I have never had a complaint or concern with purchases from Sergent Engineering. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Sep 19, 2017, at 5:07 PM, t_colasurdo@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:


Good evening everyone:

I'm new to the conversation, so please forgive me if this topic has previously been discussed.

I've browsed the Sergent website, but I typically do not purchase utilizing on-line carts ... call me old fashion.  I did e-mail utilizing the contact e-mail provided, but no response.

I've searched my usual sources for modeling supplies, but did not see Sergent "S" scale couplers listed.

I'm comparing couplers to be utilized on my On3 models, and wanted to compare the Sergent couplers to Kadee O and On3 couplers, as well as Protocraft couplers.

Any suggestions on a source to purchase?

Thank you in advance for any recommendations.

V/r,
Tom Colasurdo< /p>



Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

Artur Pawlowski
 

What are you afraid of lol. You know my grandma still refuses to use the ATM :)




On Wednesday, September 20, 2017, 18:04, Thomas Colasurdo t_colasurdo@... [SergentEng] wrote:

 

All:

Thank you for the suggestions ... will give my direct e-mail to the website address a couple more days, just in case they are busy.

If not, I may break down and use PayPal; but I'll probably chicken out and send a letter/check.

V/r,
Tom C.



From: "Bill Keene wakeene@... [SergentEng]"
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

 
Hi Tom,

When I first started purchasing Sergent Couplers, I did not have a PayPal account. I simply wrote a letter describing my order and enclosed a check for the proper amount to the address on the web site. Within just a few days, my order arrived. 

I have never had a complaint or concern with purchases from Sergent Engineering. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Sep 19, 2017, at 5:07 PM, t_colasurdo@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:


Good evening everyone:

I'm new to the conversation, so please forgive me if this topic has previously been discussed.

I've browsed the Sergent website, but I typically do not purchase utilizing on-line carts ... call me old fashion.  I did e-mail utilizing the contact e-mail provided, but no response.

I've searched my usual sources for modeling supplies, but did not see Sergent "S" scale couplers listed.

I'm comparing couplers to be utilized on my On3 models, and wanted to compare the Sergent couplers to Kadee O and On3 couplers, as well as Protocraft couplers.

Any suggestions on a source to purchase?

Thank you in advance for any recommendations.

V/r,
Tom Colasurdo< /p>



Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

Tom Colasurdo
 

Artur:

I work for the government ... they get hacked so regularly that my information is almost common knowledge ... had to shutdown most electronic transfers because it's hard to tell which I actually made.

Internet has been great for finding things that my local stores don't carry ... but the internet has also been a pain as it relates to financial information.

I don't refuse to utilize my ATM ... I just can't remember the pin code.

Can't wait for the day my only concern is building or running trains !!!

Have a great night.

V/r,
Tom C.



From: "artur Pawlowski artur_pawlowski37@... [SergentEng]"
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

 
What are you afraid of lol. You know my grandma still refuses to use the ATM :)




On Wednesday, September 20, 2017, 18:04, Thomas Colasurdo t_colasurdo@... [SergentEng] wrote:
 
All:

Thank you for the suggestions ... will give my direct e-mail to the website address a couple more days, just in case they are busy.

If not, I may break down and use PayPal; but I'll probably chicken out and send a letter/check.

V/r,
Tom C.



From: "Bill Keene wakeene@... [SergentEng]"
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

 
Hi Tom,

When I first started purchasing Sergent Couplers, I did not have a PayPal account. I simply wrote a letter describing my order and enclosed a check for the proper amount to the address on the web site. Within just a few days, my order arrived. 

I have never had a complaint or concern with purchases from Sergent Engineering. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Sep 19, 2017, at 5:07 PM, t_colasurdo@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:


Good evening everyone:

I'm new to the conversation, so please forgive me if this topic has previously been discussed.

I've browsed the Sergent website, but I typically do not purchase utilizing on-line carts ... call me old fashion.  I did e-mail utilizing the contact e-mail provided, but no response.

I've searched my usual sources for modeling supplies, but did not see Sergent "S" scale couplers listed.

I'm comparing couplers to be utilized on my On3 models, and wanted to compare the Sergent couplers to Kadee O and On3 couplers, as well as Protocraft couplers.

Any suggestions on a source to purchase?

Thank you in advance for any recommendations.

V/r,
Tom Colasurdo< /p>





Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

Nathan Rich
 

You could also get a reloadable prepaid Visa card. 

Nathan Rich

On Sep 21, 2017 16:16, "Thomas Colasurdo t_colasurdo@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Artur:

I work for the government ... they get hacked so regularly that my information is almost common knowledge ... had to shutdown most electronic transfers because it's hard to tell which I actually made.

Internet has been great for finding things that my local stores don't carry ... but the internet has also been a pain as it relates to financial information.

I don't refuse to utilize my ATM ... I just can't remember the pin code.

Can't wait for the day my only concern is building or running trains !!!

Have a great night.

V/r,
Tom C.



From: "artur Pawlowski artur_pawlowski37@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...>
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

 
What are you afraid of lol. You know my grandma still refuses to use the ATM :)




On Wednesday, September 20, 2017, 18:04, Thomas Colasurdo t_colasurdo@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 
All:

Thank you for the suggestions ... will give my direct e-mail to the website address a couple more days, just in case they are busy.

If not, I may break down and use PayPal; but I'll probably chicken out and send a letter/check.

V/r,
Tom C.



From: "Bill Keene wakeene@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...>
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Where to purchase

 
Hi Tom,

When I first started purchasing Sergent Couplers, I did not have a PayPal account. I simply wrote a letter describing my order and enclosed a check for the proper amount to the address on the web site. Within just a few days, my order arrived. 

I have never had a complaint or concern with purchases from Sergent Engineering. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Sep 19, 2017, at 5:07 PM, t_colasurdo@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:


Good evening everyone:

I'm new to the conversation, so please forgive me if this topic has previously been discussed.

I've browsed the Sergent website, but I typically do not purchase utilizing on-line carts ... call me old fashion.  I did e-mail utilizing the contact e-mail provided, but no response.

I've searched my usual sources for modeling supplies, but did not see Sergent "S" scale couplers listed.

I'm comparing couplers to be utilized on my On3 models, and wanted to compare the Sergent couplers to Kadee O and On3 couplers, as well as Protocraft couplers.

Any suggestions on a source to purchase?

Thank you in advance for any recommendations.

V/r,
Tom Colasurdo< /p>





Looking for Someone to Assemble Sharon Couplers

Matthew Dowd
 

All, 


I'm looking for someone to perform assembly services for 108 of these narrow shank couplers. This would include painting and assembly. I can supply an assembly jig and am willing to pay a fair price for these services. Please contact me via email at matt DOT dowd 4 AT sbcglobal DOT net to arrange the details. Thanks in advance.


-Matthew Dowd

2018 NNGC Facebook & Yahoo pages

John Niemeyer
 

 
All
 
There are some new groups that are for the 2018 National Narrow Gauge Convention, in Bloomington/Minneapolis, Minnesota
 
Yahoo page
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/38thNNGC/conversations/messages
 
 
Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/38th-Annual-National-Narrow-Gauge-Convention-802517516568586/
 
Please feel free to forward this to other groups.
 
John Niemeyer

Couplers ?

CTW W
 

How do I know what coupler I need for h o locomotives and rail cars

Re: [SergentEng] Couplers ?

Andrew
 

Hello.....

Which ones you use will depend on a couple of things.  

1. Mechanical fit
As far as fit in the locomotive or car goes, if a Kadee fits in it now, one of the compatible shank couplers should be able to drop in its place.  

If you are currently using one of the over center shanks or under center shank kadee's, then you will either need to carefully file the appropriate side of the sergent's mounting surface or fix the height problem on the piece of equipment. 

Passenger cars are a slightly different animal...

2. Type of coupler (E, SBE, etc)

The short answer....E type, standard length.  Only buy different length couplers if you determine an actual need for them (there are certain situations where they may be needed.  I have not really come across them yet.

Longer answer....

-You can use the years along side the different types of coupler as a guide.
-Refer to prototype photos
-E types were the de-facto standard up until 1968.  If you model before then the choice is easy, E types..E types are still in use.  There isn't a requirement to replace them with anything else at this time, with the exception of a few types of cars:
-Tank cars now require double shelf couplers (modern era)

Tightlock couplers (F, SF, and H) require larger radius curves than most people have.  If you have 24" radius, these will (likely) not work for you....  I tested the H type on Rapido Osgood-Bradleys(85').  They would not negotiate a 35" radius curves without the cars lifting off the track on the inside.

Andrew

On Sunday, October 22, 2017, 5:37:08 AM EDT, CT W cwz71980@... [SergentEng] wrote:


 

How do I know what coupler I need for h o locomotives and rail cars

Re: [SergentEng] Couplers ?

CTW W
 

Ok awesome thank you have some h o sd70s I want to get the couplers for also for the 2 steam engines I have the u p big boy and the s p daylight  can you send me pictures of the ones i need for those I would appreciate it   I want to change all my couplers to what you all have the realism is out of the world    I wish the manufacturer like athearn or walthers would already have the Sergent on there locomotives and rolling stock 

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:28 AM, AP ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng]
wrote:
 

Hello.....

Which ones you use will depend on a couple of things.  

1. Mechanical fit
As far as fit in the locomotive or car goes, if a Kadee fits in it now, one of the compatible shank couplers should be able to drop in its place.  

If you are currently using one of the over center shanks or under center shank kadee's, then you will either need to carefully file the appropriate side of the sergent's mounting surface or fix the height problem on the piece of equipment. 

Passenger cars are a slightly different animal...

2. Type of coupler (E, SBE, etc)

The short answer....E type, standard length.  Only buy different length couplers if you determine an actual need for them (there are certain situations where they may be needed.  I have not really come across them yet.

Longer answer....

-You can use the years along side the different types of coupler as a guide.
-Refer to prototype photos
-E types were the de-facto standard up until 1968.  If you model before then the choice is easy, E types..E types are still in use.  There isn't a requirement to replace them with anything else at this time, with the exception of a few types of cars:
-Tank cars now require double shelf couplers (modern era)

Tightlock couplers (F, SF, and H) require larger radius curves than most people have.  If you have 24" radius, these will (likely) not work for you....  I tested the H type on Rapido Osgood-Bradleys(85').  They would not negotiate a 35" radius curves without the cars lifting off the track on the inside.

Andrew
On Sunday, October 22, 2017, 5:37:08 AM EDT, CT W cwz71980@... [SergentEng] wrote:


 

How do I know what coupler I need for h o locomotives and rail cars

Re: [SergentEng] Couplers ?

Andrew
 

I don't think yahoo groups allows sending of pictures.  

I would suggest starting out with the EC87K 6 pack (the couplers do not come assembled, they are a kit).  The E type coupler would be appropriate for all locomotives listed.  As far as specific fit:  If you already have un-modified Kadee's installed, the EC87K should fit just fine.  If something other than a Kadee is installed currently (Mchenry on the Athearn locomotives) you may have to do some modifications.  I installed Sergents in my Athearn Genesis SD70ace, but I dont remember if I had to make any modifications.

Note:  
Sergents will not couple to Kadee couplers.   


On Sunday, October 22, 2017, 4:01:08 PM EDT, CT W cwz71980@... [SergentEng] wrote:


 

Ok awesome thank you have some h o sd70s I want to get the couplers for also for the 2 steam engines I have the u p big boy and the s p daylight  can you send me pictures of the ones i need for those I would appreciate it   I want to change all my couplers to what you all have the realism is out of the world    I wish the manufacturer like athearn or walthers would already have the Sergent on there locomotives and rolling stock 




On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:28 AM, AP ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng]
wrote:
 

Hello.....

Which ones you use will depend on a couple of things.  

1. Mechanical fit
As far as fit in the locomotive or car goes, if a Kadee fits in it now, one of the compatible shank couplers should be able to drop in its place.  

If you are currently using one of the over center shanks or under center shank kadee's, then you will either need to carefully file the appropriate side of the sergent's mounting surface or fix the height problem on the piece of equipment. 

Passenger cars are a slightly different animal...

2. Type of coupler (E, SBE, etc)

The short answer....E type, standard length.  Only buy different length couplers if you determine an actual need for them (there are certain situations where they may be needed.  I have not really come across them yet.

Longer answer....

-You can use the years along side the different types of coupler as a guide.
-Refer to prototype photos
-E types were the de-facto standard up until 1968.  If you model before then the choice is easy, E types..E types are still in use.  There isn't a requirement to replace them with anything else at this time, with the exception of a few types of cars:
-Tank cars now require double shelf couplers (modern era)

Tightlock couplers (F, SF, and H) require larger radius curves than most people have.  If you have 24" radius, these will (likely) not work for you....  I tested the H type on Rapido Osgood-Bradleys(85').  They would not negotiate a 35" radius curves without the cars lifting off the track on the inside.

Andrew
On Sunday, October 22, 2017, 5:37:08 AM EDT, CT W cwz71980@... [SergentEng] wrote:


 

How do I know what coupler I need for h o locomotives and rail cars

Re: [SergentEng] Couplers ?

John Niemeyer
 

You should be able to. Please give it a try.
 
John Niemeyer
group moderator


I don't think yahoo groups allows sending of pictures.
 
AP

Re: [SergentEng] Couplers ?

Alan Hummel
 

To All,
Sergent couplers will couple with McHenry & Kadee couplers but the couplers will have to be pushed to the side once they join to make the couple. The Sergent's won't couple with the McHenry or Kadee's when coupling "face to face" like 2 Sergent couplers do. But I've coupled my McHenry and Kadee couplers to a Sergent coupler by this method. So an instant change over from Kadee or McHenry isn't necessary all at once. This is what I've found. I'm changing to all Sergent's but until the funds permit I will couple with some McHenry couplers or Kadee couplers. Nothing is as realistic as Sergent couplers,or work like Sergent Couplers do.

Alan Hummel


On Sunday, October 22, 2017 4:14 PM, "AP ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng]" wrote:


 
I don't think yahoo groups allows sending of pictures.  

I would suggest starting out with the EC87K 6 pack (the couplers do not come assembled, they are a kit).  The E type coupler would be appropriate for all locomotives listed.  As far as specific fit:  If you already have un-modified Kadee's installed, the EC87K should fit just fine.  If something other than a Kadee is installed currently (Mchenry on the Athearn locomotives) you may have to do some modifications.  I installed Sergents in my Athearn Genesis SD70ace, but I dont remember if I had to make any modifications.

Note:  
Sergents will not couple to Kadee couplers.   


On Sunday, October 22, 2017, 4:01:08 PM EDT, CT W cwz71980@... [SergentEng] wrote:


 
Ok awesome thank you have some h o sd70s I want to get the couplers for also for the 2 steam engines I have the u p big boy and the s p daylight  can you send me pictures of the ones i need for those I would appreciate it   I want to change all my couplers to what you all have the realism is out of the world    I wish the manufacturer like athearn or walthers would already have the Sergent on there locomotives and rolling stock 



On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:28 AM, AP ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng]
wrote:
 
Hello.....

Which ones you use will depend on a couple of things.  

1. Mechanical fit
As far as fit in the locomotive or car goes, if a Kadee fits in it now, one of the compatible shank couplers should be able to drop in its place.  

If you are currently using one of the over center shanks or under center shank kadee's, then you will either need to carefully file the appropriate side of the sergent's mounting surface or fix the height problem on the piece of equipment. 

Passenger cars are a slightly different animal...

2. Type of coupler (E, SBE, etc)

The short answer....E type, standard length.  Only buy different length couplers if you determine an actual need for them (there are certain situations where they may be needed.  I have not really come across them yet.

Longer answer....

-You can use the years along side the different types of coupler as a guide.
-Refer to prototype photos
-E types were the de-facto standard up until 1968.  If you model before then the choice is easy, E types..E types are still in use.  There isn't a requirement to replace them with anything else at this time, with the exception of a few types of cars:
-Tank cars now require double shelf couplers (modern era)

Tightlock couplers (F, SF, and H) require larger radius curves than most people have.  If you have 24" radius, these will (likely) not work for you....  I tested the H type on Rapido Osgood-Bradleys(85').  They would not negotiate a 35" radius curves without the cars lifting off the track on the inside.

Andrew
On Sunday, October 22, 2017, 5:37:08 AM EDT, CT W cwz71980@... [SergentEng] wrote:


 
How do I know what coupler I need for h o locomotives and rail cars



Re: [SergentEng] Couplers ?

Ryan Harris
 

Before the F and SE couplers were continuously available (I believe they were lost wax castings of 3D printed parts back then), I used McHenry shelf couplers on cars that needed them. The reason is they would couple with the Sergent couplers I had on the rest of my models. They actually coupled and performed bettwr than Kadees for this purpose. Once the shelf and F couplers became available I chucked the McHenrys and installed Sergents. 

I have to say, building all those E and SBE couplers was good practice for the SE and F couplers I've been building lately. 


Ryan Harris


-------- Original message --------
From: "Alan Hummel ahummel72@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...>
Date: 10/22/17 18:23 (GMT-06:00)
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Couplers ?

 

To All,
Sergent couplers will couple with McHenry & Kadee couplers but the couplers will have to be pushed to the side once they join to make the couple. The Sergent's won't couple with the McHenry or Kadee's when coupling "face to face" like 2 Sergent couplers do. But I've coupled my McHenry and Kadee couplers to a Sergent coupler by this method. So an instant change over from Kadee or McHenry isn't necessary all at once. This is what I've found. I'm changing to all Sergent's but until the funds permit I will couple with some McHenry couplers or Kadee couplers. Nothing is as realistic as Sergent couplers,or work like Sergent Couplers do.

Alan Hummel


On Sunday, October 22, 2017 4:14 PM, "AP ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:


 
I don't think yahoo groups allows sending of pictures.  

I would suggest starting out with the EC87K 6 pack (the couplers do not come assembled, they are a kit).  The E type coupler would be appropriate for all locomotives listed.  As far as specific fit:  If you already have un-modified Kadee's installed, the EC87K should fit just fine.  If something other than a Kadee is installed currently (Mchenry on the Athearn locomotives) you may have to do some modifications.  I installed Sergents in my Athearn Genesis SD70ace, but I dont remember if I had to make any modifications.

Note:  
Sergents will not couple to Kadee couplers.   


On Sunday, October 22, 2017, 4:01:08 PM EDT, CT W cwz71980@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:


 
Ok awesome thank you have some h o sd70s I want to get the couplers for also for the 2 steam engines I have the u p big boy and the s p daylight  can you send me pictures of the ones i need for those I would appreciate it   I want to change all my couplers to what you all have the realism is out of the world    I wish the manufacturer like athearn or walthers would already have the Sergent on there locomotives and rolling stock 



On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:28 AM, AP ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng]
<SergentEng@...> wrote:
 
Hello.....

Which ones you use will depend on a couple of things.  

1. Mechanical fit
As far as fit in the locomotive or car goes, if a Kadee fits in it now, one of the compatible shank couplers should be able to drop in its place.  

If you are currently using one of the over center shanks or under center shank kadee's, then you will either need to carefully file the appropriate side of the sergent's mounting surface or fix the height problem on the piece of equipment. 

Passenger cars are a slightly different animal...

2. Type of coupler (E, SBE, etc)

The short answer....E type, standard length.  Only buy different length couplers if you determine an actual need for them (there are certain situations where they may be needed.  I have not really come across them yet.

Longer answer....

-You can use the years along side the different types of coupler as a guide.
-Refer to prototype photos
-E types were the de-facto standard up until 1968.  If you model before then the choice is easy, E types..E types are still in use.  There isn't a requirement to replace them with anything else at this time, with the exception of a few types of cars:
-Tank cars now require double shelf couplers (modern era)

Tightlock couplers (F, SF, and H) require larger radius curves than most people have.  If you have 24" radius, these will (likely) not work for you....  I tested the H type on Rapido Osgood-Bradleys(85').  They would not negotiate a 35" radius curves without the cars lifting off the track on the inside.

Andrew
On Sunday, October 22, 2017, 5:37:08 AM EDT, CT W cwz71980@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:


 
How do I know what coupler I need for h o locomotives and rail cars



Coupler Assembly

Aaron Heaney
 

If anyone needs or wants couplers assemble for them I'm willing to do so. Price and shipping is whatever seems fair. I'm going to be a long haul truck driver and I'm looking for projects to work on while on the road. Couplers will be fully assembled, painted, and tested. I have assembly fixtures for compatible and narrow shank couplers. I have assembled and installed on my own equipment the HT1R87K for the entire 13 car Broadway Limited from Walthers the HC87K for the engines and probably close to two dozen compatible shanks and a dozen narrow shanks.  Please message me off list at wolfhunt1987 at yahoo dot com. 


Sincerely


Aaron Heaney  



Coupler not working properly

Edward Sutorik
 

Over on the Atlas Rescue Forum, several people wrote about a (Sergent) coupler problem.  I quote one of them:


"I can close it with a magnet but it should close on its own without using a magnet looks like the metal ball bearing i blocking it, the knuckle should move that ball up into the upper part of the coupler but its jamming and wont budge."


Several of us either said or hinted that they screwed up assembly.


A couple of days ago, I put a coupler together and experienced the same problem.  I had read the topic previously, so I was very careful about what and where I filed metal.  I DID NOT remove any metal that changed the working surfaces except to gently smooth them.


Anyway, I've just spent some time examining this coupler.  What's happening is the ball is falling from its raised position, partially or completely, behind the knuckle piece.  When this happens, the knuckle cannot be closed.  If one then puts the magnet above the coupler, the knuckle CAN be closed.  This is exactly what the other guys described.


It would appear that the knuckle may be opening a bit too far, thus allowing the ball to drop down.  I did not remove ANY metal in the locations that would control this.


I was about to report my experience back to the Atlas Rescue Forum, but I thought I would stop here first, in case someone can supply additional (helpful) information.



Ed


Edward Sutorik