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Re: [SergentEng] Announcing new coupler gauges for HO standard gauge and narrow gauge models

Mike Conder
 

I only have a couple of Bachmann cars, early ones, and they had something that looked like a lower coupler box and an upper coupler box.  It also looked like the lower box had to be removed to use the upper.  Not sure if that was the coase, or if later cars had the same design.

Need to ask some On30 guys to get that right.

Mike Conder

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:23 AM, macbmac1@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Howdy:

I don't recall that Bachmann has the adjustable coupler box height; I do know that AMS (Accucraft) has the height to HO standard / adjustable to On3, and San Juan Car Co. excellent kits are set to On3, IIRC.

Mike McAnally
Pahrump, NV


Re: [SergentEng] Designing for 3D printing

William Lugg <luggw1@...>
 

Sorry, this was intended for Mike Condor, not the list.

Bill Lugg

On 11/22/2016 09:55 AM, William Lugg luggw1@... [SergentEng] wrote:

Just out of curiosity, can you point me to a good tutorial or two about
designing parts to be printed in 3D by Shapeways? I've got some items I
think might be interesting to try, but haven't a clue how to get started.

I am a Linux user and have been fiddling with with FreeCAD a bit, but
applying it to the construction of a model of a real part has so far
eluded me. I also have the professional version of QCAD available, but
I'm pretty sure that's limited to 2D work.

Thanks.
Bill Lugg

Re: [SergentEng] Designing for 3D printing

Mike Conder
 

No problem on my part.

BTW, I have some of the the Sergent Engineering assembly jigs that also look like they are made via 3D printing, maybe even by Shapeways, and highly recommend them.  they also have a coupler height "go-no go" gauge that's simpler and lower cost than mine, just works a little differently.

Mike Conder

Re: [SergentEng] Designing for 3D printing

Mike Conder
 

I use SketchUp, a free 3D program now owned by Google.  But I had a hard time until I realized that SU, until CAD, worked better by starting with large shapes and removing "material" to make the item, as opposed to making shapes and adding them together as I normally did with CAD.  Either way works but the "removal" or sculpting method can be a lot faster ... especially with the coupler gauges I designed.

I also did  lot of Youtube videos from a site called "mastersketchup.com."  The owner also has a lot of non-video tips.  I did most of the relevant tutorials, even the ones building a shed, because the skills transfer to model parts even though the subjects usually don't.

Shapeways has a number of tutorials as well, so one needs to pay a lot of attention to the minimum thickness limits of the selected materials.

Mike Conder

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 9:55 AM, William Lugg luggw1@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Just out of curiosity, can you point me to a good tutorial or two about
designing parts to be printed in 3D by Shapeways? I've got some items I
think might be interesting to try, but haven't a clue how to get started.

I am a Linux user and have been fiddling with with FreeCAD a bit, but
applying it to the construction of a model of a real part has so far
eluded me. I also have the professional version of QCAD available, but
I'm pretty sure that's limited to 2D work.

Thanks.
Bill Lugg


Re: [SergentEng] Announcing new coupler gauges for HO standard gauge and narrow gauge models

William Uffelman
 

Early cars had the fixed drop box for HO height. Later cars have a removable spacer.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng]
wrote:
 

I only have a couple of Bachmann cars, early ones, and they had something that looked like a lower coupler box and an upper coupler box.  It also looked like the lower box had to be removed to use the upper.  Not sure if that was the coase, or if later cars had the same design.

Need to ask some On30 guys to get that right.

Mike Conder

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:23 AM, macbmac1@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Howdy:

I don't recall that Bachmann has the adjustable coupler box height; I do know that AMS (Accucraft) has the height to HO standard / adjustable to On3, and San Juan Car Co. excellent kits are set to On3, IIRC.

Mike McAnally
Pahrump, NV


New to group

Ken Neufeld
 

Group,

My name is Ken Neufeld. I model in Sn3. Wondering if anyone out there is using Sergent couplers in this scale/gauge.

Would also like to know if there are specs on these couplers. Couldn't find any on the Sergent website. Specifically I build PBL kits and they use a Kadee #26 on a lot of their kits. This coupler has a .100 longer shank than the #5.

I am assuming the compatible shank couplers are replacements for the #5 or the newer scale head coupler.

I am thinking I would use the Sharon coupler but don't know if it would be compatible. Or would I have to use the Type E and ignore the vintage?


Thanks to anyone
Ken


Re: [SergentEng] New to group

Nathan Rich
 

Sharon and E couplers will interchange. There is also a +.100 shank E head coupler available on the website.

Just using E's will definitely change your opinion on Kadee couplers.

Nathan Rich

On Dec 11, 2016 11:17, "ktneuf@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Group,

My name is Ken Neufeld. I model in Sn3. Wondering if anyone out there is using Sergent couplers in this scale/gauge.

Would also like to know if there are specs on these couplers. Couldn't find any on the Sergent website. Specifically I build PBL kits and they use a Kadee #26 on a lot of their kits. This coupler has a .100 longer shank than the #5.

I am assuming the compatible shank couplers are replacements for the #5 or the newer scale head coupler.

I am thinking I would use the Sharon coupler but don't know if it would be compatible. Or would I have to use the Type E and ignore the vintage?


Thanks to anyone
Ken


Re: [SergentEng] New to group

David Heine
 

I model in Sn3 and have HO Sergent couplers on some of my rolling stock. I tried them after seeing them on some other Sn3 models. I've been mostly working on my layout, so I haven't converted my old equipment, but the newer stuff I've built has Sergent couplers. The longer shank couplers have solved the biggest problem with changing over to Sergents in Sn3, which is the use of coupler boxes designed for a #26. I've tried several approaches, on PBL and other kits to move the coupler post, but was never really happy with any of them as a solution to go and change all my existing rolling stock. The long shank Sergents make it easy.

They are smaller than the HO Kadees, but are probably as close as we'll ever get to a 3/4 MCB coupler in S scale. Sergent makes some S scale Type E's, but no S scale Sharons.

I also do some modeling in Sn2, and I've been using the Sergent couplers, but because of the narrow track gauge, I have to use the narrow shank version. I, like most others, use HOn3 gauge for Sn2. With Kadees, I'd have to use their smaller HOn3 couplers which look worse than the standard HO ones.

Dave Heine
Easton, PA


On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Nathan Rich thaddeusthudpucker@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Sharon and E couplers will interchange. There is also a +.100 shank E head coupler available on the website.

Just using E's will definitely change your opinion on Kadee couplers.

Nathan Rich

On Dec 11, 2016 11:17, "ktneuf@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Group,

My name is Ken Neufeld. I model in Sn3. Wondering if anyone out there is using Sergent couplers in this scale/gauge.

Would also like to know if there are specs on these couplers. Couldn't find any on the Sergent website. Specifically I build PBL kits and they use a Kadee #26 on a lot of their kits. This coupler has a .100 longer shank than the #5.

I am assuming the compatible shank couplers are replacements for the #5 or the newer scale head coupler.

I am thinking I would use the Sharon coupler but don't know if it would be compatible. Or would I have to use the Type E and ignore the vintage?


Thanks to anyone
Ken



Re: New to group

Nick Gully
 

Ken,
 I have been putting the Sergent coupler in my P-B-L equipment. Since the S Sharon is a shorter shank than the KD#26, I remove the mount hole in the P-B-L casting and drill a new hole to screw into. I put a bit of evergreen polystyrene tube around the screw as a bushing so the coupler slack and side-to-side action feel appropriate to me. They really are a splendid match of accurate operation with scale hardware.

Sergent Couplers in Sn3 | Nick's Random Musings

 

Best Regards,

 Nick Gully

Re: New to group

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
 

The Sharon was an older 'standard' coupler a bit smaller than a D or E.  A so called type C.  The only visual difference at our scale tween the D & E is the knuckle height.  So; To make a "D out of an "E" just file the knuckle a bit top and bottom.

The "H0" Sharon would be way too small.  The "E" is 73% of "S" being scale "H0".  The #5 is 17-20% OVERSIZE FOR "H0" so that makes it apx 87% of "S"  The "S" Sargent is 100% of "S" so a bit larger than a Sharon.  But; Smaller than an 802 which is oversized though not as much as a #5.  Which one to use is,of course, your choice.


Talmadge C 'TC' Carr

Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest

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Re: [SergentEng] New to group

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
 

Dave;

I agree on the Kadee coupler looks.  At 73% the H0 Sargents are fiddly close for 3/4 size in S.  For a type D just file a bit on the knuckle.

I use AAR coupler height and Choppers from New Zealand for my Sn2 Gilpin in the Bitterroots.  I use H0 Sergents converted to Type D for my Sn3.5.  And, I will use S Sergents for my wide (std) gauge S. As I do 1923 I may convert them to Ds also.


Talmadge C 'TC' Carr

Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest


Re: [SergentEng] New to group

Nathan Rich
 

Send a pic of the chopper couplers! I love the idea of different couplers apart from AAR couplers.

Not to go too far off topic but I have a 4-4-0 that I am planning on using some Link and pin couplers on. Just to have something different.

There is also a guy who is making Russian outline HO scale, having the proper SA3 couplers for that would be cool too. Just can't stand Kadee couplers anymore.

Nathan Rich

 

Dave;

I agree on the Kadee coupler looks.  At 73% the H0 Sargents are fiddly close for 3/4 size in S.  For a type D just file a bit on the knuckle.

I use AAR coupler height and Choppers from New Zealand for my Sn2 Gilpin in the Bitterroots.  I use H0 Sergents converted to Type D for my Sn3.5.  And, I will use S Sergents for my wide (std) gauge S. As I do 1923 I may convert them to Ds also.


Talmadge C 'TC' Carr

Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest


New to group

Ken Neufeld
 

Group,

Thanks for the responses. I am going to give these things a go.

Feedback to follow


Ken


Re: [SergentEng] New to group

Nathan Rich
 

We're here to help along the way!

Nathab

On Dec 14, 2016 3:29 PM, "ktneuf@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Group,

Thanks for the responses. I am going to give these things a go.

Feedback to follow


Ken


Coupler Type?

John Degnan
 

Can anyone identify the coupler type seen in the attached photo?

Thanks.


John Degnan

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler Type? [1 Attachment]

Andrew
 

Where was photo taken, on what locomotive?

Kind of looks like an E or Sharon. 

On Jan 21, 2017, at 12:25 AM, "John Degnan Scaler164@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 

Can anyone identify the coupler type seen in the attached photo?

Thanks.


John Degnan

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler Type?

John Degnan
 

Location was most likely somewhere in Florida, and it is on SAL's diesel electric loco # 2028.  (see attachment)


John D


From: "Andrew Porter ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng]"
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 7:33:48 AM
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Coupler Type?

 
Where was photo taken, on what locomotive?

Kind of looks like an E or Sharon. 

On Jan 21, 2017, at 12:25 AM, "John Degnan Scaler164@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 


Can anyone identify the coupler type seen in the attached photo?

Thanks.


John Degnan



Re: [SergentEng] Coupler Type? [1 Attachment]

Andrew
 

Probably a D, E or sharon.

On Jan 21, 2017, at 10:15 AM, "John Degnan Scaler164@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 

Location was most likely somewhere in Florida, and it is on SAL's diesel electric loco # 2028.  (see attachment)


John D


From: "Andrew Porter ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...>
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 7:33:48 AM
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Coupler Type?

 
Where was photo taken, on what locomotive?

Kind of looks like an E or Sharon. 

On Jan 21, 2017, at 12:25 AM, "John Degnan Scaler164@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 


Can anyone identify the coupler type seen in the attached photo?

Thanks.


John Degnan



Re: [SergentEng] Coupler Type?

Allen Roberts
 

coupler in photo

Martin Matsil
 

Looks like a type E,freight type coupler.passenger trains use the type,f or H,also known as a tooth and socket coupler.