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Re: [SergentEng] Assembly step 1, knuckle flash

Andrew
 

Tim,

That sounds like a good idea,  I might try that.  I cut one of my fingers the other day while doing this.  Also do both sides need to be burnished or just one?

Andrew

On May 7, 2016, at 1:05 PM, "TS egroupstuff@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 

I too normally just hold it between thumb and forefinger. It is a bit
awkward until you get used to it but it isn't too bad.

Something I'm going to try is drilling a shallow hole the "diameter"
and depth-to-tang of the knuckle in a piece of wood or something, then
I can just place the knuckle in the hole (the tang resting on the piece
of wood) and then I can just use light finger pressure to hold it there
to clean up the tang.

Tim

On 07/05/2016 17:27, Andrew Porter ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng]
wrote:
>
>
> Jeff and all,
>
> I should have been more specific with my original question. How do you
> hold the knuckle while scraping the flash off of it?
>
> Andrew
>
> On May 6, 2016, at 7:10 AM, "Jeff Young jeff@...
> <mailto:jeff@...> [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...
> <mailto:SergentEng@...>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> X-acto knife (or even better a scalpel) and one of those magnifying
>> fluorescent ring lights. (Well, I don’t know about “easiest”, but
>> that’s how I do them anyway. In my experience you won’t find any
>> flash on about 80% of them, but you still need to do the step for the
>> 1 in 5 that does have some.)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff.
>>
>>> On 5 May 2016, at 13:36, Andrew Porter ihtsbih_2014@...
>>> <mailto:ihtsbih_2014@...> [SergentEng]
>>> <SergentEng@... <mailto:SergentEng@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the easiest way to perform step 1 on the knuckle?
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>
>

Re: [SergentEng] Assembly step 1, knuckle flash

Tim L
 

You should only have to do one side, the side with the little depression
where the ejector pin pushed the knuckle out of the mold.

I will note that I don't (currently) use a knife for this but I use a
small fine needle file. No cut fingers!

I've not really had any flash in this area, mostly what I find when I
do find something is that the very pointy end of the tang has some extra
material that prevents the knuckle from fully opening (or closing, I
forget which), and this is fairly rare as well.

I was thinking further to my idea and instead of trying to drill a
shallow hole I'll find something, like sheet styrene whose thickness
matches the depth-to-tang measurement, drill a hold all the way through
and then screw or glue that to a piece of wood or something.

Tim

On 08/05/2016 18:10, Andrew Porter ihtsbih_2014@... [SergentEng] wrote:


Tim,

That sounds like a good idea, I might try that. I cut one of my
fingers the other day while doing this. Also do both sides need to be
burnished or just one?

Andrew

Coupler style for 1970 era SP engines

Rob Briney
 

I model the 70s with The SP and ATSF in The Central Valley of California. I was wondering what style of coupler would be correct for that time period for my Engines.
Thanks in advance for any help I can get.
Rob Briney

Re: Coupler style for 1970 era SP engines

Dave Snyder
 

No easy answer Rob. Best practice is to find period pictures and identify by using the NMRA coupler file in this groups files section. Remember that freight and passenger locos could use different couplers.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.

[SergentEng] Coupler style for 1970 era SP engines

Nathan Rich
 

Most pictures of freight locomotives from that time that I have seen have the usual E heads. Passenger locomotives usually had H heads at that time. I would check roster shots of your specific locomotives to try to find which coupler they had.

It seems to be in more recent years that passenger locomotives and some freight engines, especially those in rotary dump coal train service, have started getting F heads. 

Nathan Rich


On Monday, May 9, 2016, davesnyder59@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

No easy answer Rob. Best practice is to find period pictures and identify by using the NMRA coupler file in this groups files section. Remember that freight and passenger locos could use different couplers.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler style for 1970 era SP engines

Rob Briney
 

Thank you gentlemen for your input. Though I was in high school and college during those years, I wasn't putting much of my studies into my life long love of trains!
Rob

Couplers ?

CTW W
 

Do they only make these in H O?   I'm looking for them in N scale 

Re: [SergentEng] Couplers ?

John Niemeyer <jniemeyer@...>
 

CT W
 
Here is a comparison of the “HO” scale Sharon coupler next to a Micro Train Line “N” scale coupler. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SergentEng/photos/albums/573633332/lightbox/883904003?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/883904003
 
You decide if that is close enough.
 
John

Do they only make these in H O?   I'm looking for them in N scale
 

Re: [SergentEng] Couplers ?

CTW W
 


Those couplers are very realistic hopefully they will fit in N scale freight and locomotives

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:39 PM, 'John Niemeyer' jniemeyer@... [SergentEng]
wrote:
 

CT W
 
Here is a comparison of the “HO” scale Sharon coupler next to a Micro Train Line “N” scale coupler. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SergentEng/photos/albums/573633332/lightbox/883904003?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/883904003
 
You decide if that is close enough.
 
John

Do they only make these in H O?   I'm looking for them in N scale
 

h-2-a couplers,(Rapid transit type couplers,NYCTA)

Martin Matsil
 

did anyone produce an HO-scale model of the Westinghouse h-2-a type tightlock coupler as used on the BMT,standards,Triplex,and IND R-1/9 subway cars.I am talking about a working model,of the same  coupler.Thanks,and  God bless.

On30 Application

Charles Owen
 

I have completed assembly of two pairs of S scale Sergent couplers that I intend to test on my On30 layout.  However, I am concerned by the lack of draft gear boxes to mount the couplers - I have noted the mention of John Degnan draft gear boxes as well as the Kadee #802 boxes. 


Several questions come to mind:


a).  Are either gear boxes readily available?


b).  Has anyone utilized Sergent couplers on Bachmann On30 EBT coal hoppers - is there a simple conversion process to facilitate this work?


c).  When using the S scale Sergent couplers for On30, is it best to use the couplers at the standard HO Bachmann coupler height or is it better to raise the coupler height to the On3 standard?  It appears that Bachmann On30 equipment was built with that possibility, even though the couplers are supplied at the HO level.


The use of Sergent S scale requires a rather expensive conversion process and hopefully there is a reasonable solution to the questions above.  I really think that the realistic appearance and operational aspects warrant the fullest consideration of the Sergent couplers.


Thanks for your thoughts.


C. Owen

Louisville, KY



Re: On30 Application

Mark
 

Hi. I too model in On30 but my prototype is more like Maine two footers so I have gone for Shannon style.     A lot smaller than your S scale coupler.   For me I did consider using straight HO but decided to go smaller again.  Have you considered using straight HO instead😊

Mark from oz

Re: [SergentEng] Re: On30 Application

Nathan Rich
 

It depends on what you really want to do.

I think that S scale couplers at On3 height is the best way to go if you are modeling something that used 3/4 size couplers and you are going for the closest to scale that you can. I believe the D&RGW used full size MCB couplers, which also enabled them to switch standard gauge cars on dual gauge trackage. I think that HO couplers at regular HO height is a maybe sort of okay compromise but they certainly aren't scale.

It does not appear that Kadee offers coupler boxes independently of their couplers, though you might ask them if they'll sell you a bunch. 

Nathan Rich

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:49 PM, markstafford15@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Hi. I too model in On30 but my prototype is more like Maine two footers so I have gone for Shannon style.     A lot smaller than your S scale coupler.   For me I did consider using straight HO but decided to go smaller again.  Have you considered using straight HO instead😊


Mark from oz


Re: [SergentEng] Re: On30 Application

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
 

KD does offer their S/On30 box but do not catalog it.  You must call them.

(541) 826-3883 

Another option is the box from SMMW:
<http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com/S_detail_parts.html>
 
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Ultra Capacity Coupler

Tim L
 

Hello all,

Well, it's been quite quiet here of late so I'll see if I can work up
some chatter. I was wondering if the coupler (attached pic) has been used anywhere else but here in Oz? They are not common here, being pretty well limited to the iron ore railways in the north west of the country and to some locomotives that work coal traffic on the east cost.

I have an interest in modelling some of our iron ore stuff but dread
the thought of the cost for Frank to develop and run a minimum of the
couplers for me, so I thought I'd find out if this is something that has a use elsewhere that might make it a candidate for Frank to consider on his own down the line.

Cheers,

Tim
Land of OZ

Attached: Alliance Ultra Capacity Coupler.

Re: [SergentEng] Re: On30 Application

Charles Owen
 

Thanks for the several helpful responses to my earlier questions concerning Sergent S scale couplers being used for On30.  I have subsequently decided to utilize the Sergents with Kadee #802 S scale gear boxes placed at the recommended NMRA On3 coupler height standard.  

C. Owen
Louisville, KY 

EC87A - DISCONTINUED?

Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Hello Group,

When I visited the Sergent web site last week I did not find any listing of the EC87A — the assembled couplers — on the order list. Have these been discontinued? Does anyone on the list have knowledge of this or know that the assembled couplers are available or not?

I have sent Sergent an e-mail inquiry but so far have not received a reply.

My reason for asking is that with my old dog age shaky hands and less than perfect eyesight I am not sure that I would be able to assemble the “kit” couplers. Thus the reason for the use of the EC87A assembled versions.

Cheers & Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

Re: [SergentEng] EC87A - DISCONTINUED?

Dale Kritzky
 

The kits go together pretty easy, just make sure you get the fixture to put them together.
Sent from my NOOK

"Bill Keene wakeene@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 

Hello Group,

When I visited the Sergent web site last week I did not find any listing of the EC87A — the assembled couplers — on the order list. Have these been discontinued? Does anyone on the list have knowledge of this or know that the assembled couplers are available or not?

I have sent Sergent an e-mail inquiry but so far have not received a reply.

My reason for asking is that with my old dog age shaky hands and less than perfect eyesight I am not sure that I would be able to assemble the “kit” couplers. Thus the reason for the use of the EC87A assembled versions.

Cheers & Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

Re: [SergentEng] EC87A - DISCONTINUED?

Josh Baakko
 

I was afraid to tackle the kits... Then the A's went out, and now I've done over 100 EC87 and SBEC87's, and I prefer it.

I'm sure there is a member or two who would assemble kits for you for a nominal charge.
Josh
San Diego CA

Re: [SergentEng] EC87A - DISCONTINUED?

Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Josh & Group,

IIRC… there were some U-tube videos — or similar — showing assembly of the couplers. Just can not seem to find them in my data filing system today. Old dog memory in action, I guess.

My question to you is … are there any special tools required? I know one needs the assembly jig, but other than that, what is a definite necessity?

Thanks & Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On Jul 7, 2016, at 12:00 AM, josh@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

I was afraid to tackle the kits... Then the A's went out, and now I've done over 100 EC87 and SBEC87's, and I prefer it.

I'm sure there is a member or two who would assemble kits for you for a nominal charge.
Josh
San Diego CA