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Re: S-scale couplers

Frank Sergent
 

Hi Earl and all,

First of all, I was able to evaluate the 50 knuckle castings from the test run today and they look great. That means the tool worked well the first time, and the machine will start cranking out production parts very soon.

With regard to bulk packages in S scale, that can really only happen if all the pieces are die cast. The knuckle is the only part that is die cast for now. This puts me in a similar situation to one of the HO scale "specialty" couplers like a FC87. That part also uses investment cast top and bottom castings plus a diecast knuckle - and I don't offer that in bulk packs either. For the investment cast parts, time and money go up linearly with quantity so there is no such thing as quantity discounts. Sorry.

Before anybody ask, I need to have visions of selling a few hundred thousand couplers before it make sense to dump the money into full die cast tooling for a product. I don't really see that in S scale. I do hope to get the money back for the S scale knuckle. I hope. 

Frank 

Re: S-scale couplers

Earl Tuson
 

Trevor says,

I'll be ready to place a bulk order when they come back to market.
Frank, will you be offering a bulk price for, say, a gross?

Earl Tuson

Re: S-scale couplers

Trevor at The Model Railway Show
 

That's great news, Frank. Thanks for letting us know.
I've been doing a lot of tests on my layout with the ones that I ordered before you pulled them to do the rework - and I'm very happy with them. So much so, that I'll be ready to place a bulk order when they come back to market. Let's see - 50 castings is only 25 pieces of rolling stock...
;-)
- Trevor
BTW: All of my blog posts on the S scale Sergent couplers can be found here:
---
Trevor Marshall
Port Rowan in 1:64
An S scale study of a Canadian National Railways branch line - in its twilight years


Re: [SergentEng] Re: S-scale couplers

John Degnan
 

It's too hard to bite my nails (in anticipation) with my fingers crossed... but I'll figure it out.
 
       :)
 
 
John Degnan


From: "fsergent@... [SergentEng]"
To: SergentEng@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:57:54 PM
Subject: [SergentEng] Re: S-scale couplers

 

I'll get the first 50 castings off the new tool next week for the trial run. Keep you fingers crossed!

Frank

Re: S-scale couplers

Frank Sergent
 

I'll get the first 50 castings off the new tool next week for the trial run. Keep you fingers crossed!

Frank

S-scale couplers

Wayne Essel
 

Still August?

Sergent Users Facebook Group

Christopher Zurek
 

Hello all,

Yesterday I started a Facebook group for users of Sergent couplers.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SergentCouplerUsers/

Now before anyone starts complaining about Facebook and such, I did not do this to take anything away from the Yahoo group. I happen to like Facebook and I find it easier to post pictures there.

Chris Z.

Re: [SergentEng] New Walters Amfleet

Christopher Zurek
 

Thanks for the info. All three of my Amfleet cars are the retooled cars with the metallic finish. I'm building the accommodation train that split off the Inter American at Temple, TX and ran to Houston back in 1980. The train consisted of an F40PH, a baggage car, a 10/6 sleeper (usually Budd), and Amdinette and two Amcoaches.

I put the project of fitting Sergent couplers to the Amfleet cars until I get the F40PH finished.

Chris Z.

On 8/1/2014 8:09 AM, 'Alden G. McBee' agm@... [SergentEng] wrote:
�

I added the type H couplers to a Proto Amfleet coach, and coupled it to the Amcafe with the same couplers. �They were good on tangent track, but the diaphragms �were too tight on my 30 inch curves causing them to derail. � I am going to explore my options: �i.e. can I modify the diaphragms to get more movement, make a spring mount (fore�aft) for the coupler, extend one coupler, or maybe just run with an older car with more spacing and more movable diaphragm etc.? �The metallic finish on the new cars contrasts with the aluminum finish on the older ones, however. �

�Alden McBee

On Jul 16, 2014, at 1:24 PM, ALDEN MCBEE <agm@...> wrote:

I added them to an Amcafe and coupled it to an older Amfleet coach with the larger sprung diaphrams. �They went around my 30 " radius turns just fine, but I have yet to try two of the newer ones together as I only have the one. �I am still waiting for one of the new Amfleet coaches.
--Alden McBee


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Christopher Zurek zurekc@q.com [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
�

Hello all,

Has anyone tried putting Type H couplers on the new Walthers Amfleet cars that came out earlier this year?�


Chris Z.

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note� II, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone




Re: [SergentEng] New Walters Amfleet

arved_grass
 

Ooooh.... Working Hydracushion effect...

Arved Grass
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Fri, 8/1/14, Peter Burr pburr47@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [SergentEng] New Walters Amfleet
To: "SergentEng@..." <SergentEng@...>
Date: Friday, August 1, 2014, 10:51 AM


 









Perhaps Frank can make some longer shank couplers,
even designed like the Kadees with the rectangular slot and
springs fore and aft

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Re: [SergentEng] New Walters Amfleet

Peter Burr
 

Perhaps Frank can make some longer shank couplers, even designed like the Kadees with the rectangular slot and springs fore and aft

--

Re: [SergentEng] New Walters Amfleet

Alden G. McBee
 

I added the type H couplers to a Proto Amfleet coach, and coupled it to the Amcafe with the same couplers.  They were good on tangent track, but the diaphragms  were too tight on my 30 inch curves causing them to derail.   I am going to explore my options:  i.e. can I modify the diaphragms to get more movement, make a spring mount (fore—aft) for the coupler, extend one coupler, or maybe just run with an older car with more spacing and more movable diaphragm etc.?  The metallic finish on the new cars contrasts with the aluminum finish on the older ones, however.  
—Alden McBee

On Jul 16, 2014, at 1:24 PM, ALDEN MCBEE <agm@...> wrote:

I added them to an Amcafe and coupled it to an older Amfleet coach with the larger sprung diaphrams.  They went around my 30 " radius turns just fine, but I have yet to try two of the newer ones together as I only have the one.  I am still waiting for one of the new Amfleet coaches.
--Alden McBee


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Christopher Zurek zurekc@q.com [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Hello all,

Has anyone tried putting Type H couplers on the new Walthers Amfleet cars that came out earlier this year? 


Chris Z.

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® II, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone



New Sharon for front pilot

John Niemeyer <jniemeyer@...>
 

Has anyone else noticed that Sergent Engineering has added a new front pilot Sharon coupler to their web-site? I’ve used the ES1P87 successfully, without major work to a brass steam engine. Now with the new RS1P87K this opens up some new possibilities.
 
John

Re: [SergentEng] New Walters Amfleet

Nathan Rich
 

I plan on putting them on my 1974 Mt Rainier trainset I have (F40PH, 4 older run Amfleet cars) when my latest order arrives. I am using compatible shanks, I plan on gluing them to the swinging arm to eliminate a 'wrist' joint and have them pivot from the 'elbow' like the other big H couplers do. I'll post pictures when I get them.

Nathan


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Alden McBee agm@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Yes.  I filed the paint off the shank and they came out the correct height.  The trucks don't even need to be removed, just the bottom cover under the coupler. They look great, but the coupling is prototypically very close.  
--Alden McBee 


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, 'Christopher A. Zurek' zurekc@q.com [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Alden,

Did you just use the standard compatible shank Type H coupler?

Chris Z.




On 7/16/2014 12:24 PM, Alden McBee agm@... [SergentEng] wrote:
 
I added them to an Amcafe and coupled it to an older Amfleet coach with the larger sprung diaphrams.  They went around my 30 " radius turns just fine, but I have yet to try two of the newer ones together as I only have the one.  I am still waiting for one of the new Amfleet coaches.
--Alden McBee


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Christopher Zurek zurekc@q.com [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 
Hello all,

Has anyone tried putting Type H couplers on the new Walthers Amfleet cars that came out earlier this year? 


Chris Z.

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® II, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone




Re: [SergentEng] New Walters Amfleet

Alden G. McBee
 

Yes.  I filed the paint off the shank and they came out the correct height.  The trucks don't even need to be removed, just the bottom cover under the coupler. They look great, but the coupling is prototypically very close.  
--Alden McBee 


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, 'Christopher A. Zurek' zurekc@q.com [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Alden,

Did you just use the standard compatible shank Type H coupler?

Chris Z.




On 7/16/2014 12:24 PM, Alden McBee agm@... [SergentEng] wrote:
 
I added them to an Amcafe and coupled it to an older Amfleet coach with the larger sprung diaphrams.  They went around my 30 " radius turns just fine, but I have yet to try two of the newer ones together as I only have the one.  I am still waiting for one of the new Amfleet coaches.
--Alden McBee


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Christopher Zurek zurekc@q.com [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 
Hello all,

Has anyone tried putting Type H couplers on the new Walthers Amfleet cars that came out earlier this year? 


Chris Z.

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® II, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone



Re: [SergentEng] New Walters Amfleet

Christopher Zurek
 

Alden,

Did you just use the standard compatible shank Type H coupler?

Chris Z.


On 7/16/2014 12:24 PM, Alden McBee agm@... [SergentEng] wrote:
 
I added them to an Amcafe and coupled it to an older Amfleet coach with the larger sprung diaphrams.  They went around my 30 " radius turns just fine, but I have yet to try two of the newer ones together as I only have the one.  I am still waiting for one of the new Amfleet coaches.
--Alden McBee


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Christopher Zurek zurekc@q.com [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 
Hello all,

Has anyone tried putting Type H couplers on the new Walthers Amfleet cars that came out earlier this year? 


Chris Z.

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® II, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


Re: [SergentEng] New Walters Amfleet

Alden G. McBee
 

I added them to an Amcafe and coupled it to an older Amfleet coach with the larger sprung diaphrams.  They went around my 30 " radius turns just fine, but I have yet to try two of the newer ones together as I only have the one.  I am still waiting for one of the new Amfleet coaches.
--Alden McBee


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Christopher Zurek zurekc@q.com [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Hello all,

Has anyone tried putting Type H couplers on the new Walthers Amfleet cars that came out earlier this year? 


Chris Z.

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® II, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


New Walters Amfleet

Christopher Zurek
 

Hello all,

Has anyone tried putting Type H couplers on the new Walthers Amfleet cars that came out earlier this year? 


Chris Z.

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® II, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

Re: MWRY - Passenger Car Uncoupler Tool 'issue'

zecrail_s301
 

Thank you very much Frank, that is exactly what I was after :)

No problem with it coming without the wire having been bent up, we are after all modelers :) I've bent it up, and tweaked it so it works with my stock (there's not much clearance on Australian 1900 vintage timber carriages!), I just wanted to make sure I was heading in the right direction first.

At least they don't have buffers or full width (streamlined) vestibules/corridors, otherwise these wouldn't have a hope of working :) As a note, the 0.100 extended shank couplers are perfect for Aussie steamers with buffers, thank you for producing these; I've been hoping for them for a while.

Zec

Re: MWRY - Passenger Car Uncoupler Tool 'issue'

Frank Sergent
 

Hi Zec,

Apparantly a few of these made it out before the wire got bent up. I just posted pics in the photos section to show how to bend the wire. Step00 is what you have. Step01Bottom is the bottom view after the first bend. This is basically just bending the wire over with your finger. Step01Side is the same thing from a different angle. Step03 (there is no step 2 oddly enough) bends the wire toward the center of the loop.

Basically, what you are after is the ability to flick the knuckle open with the wire while the loop is between the bottom of the diaphram and the top of the coupler. There isn't anything really critical here. Sorry for the miss.

Frank

Re: [SergentEng] Intermountain R-70-20 couplers

ian clasper
 

I replaced the blobs that Intermountain call coupler pockets with Moloco PCF coupler pockets on all my PCF reefers, now I have good looking pockets that take compatible Sergent' s without any problems.

Ian Clasper