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Re: New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

Robert Margerum
 

Transfer me whenever you want to


Re: [SergentEng] New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

John Niemeyer
 

Thanks for your input JZ. Sorry that I missed you at the National Narrow Gauge Convention in Denver.
 
I would like to have those with questions to speak up, so we the moderators can answer their questions.
 
John Niemeyer
 
John,

Thanks for being proactive about forming the new group in groups.io. I've long believed Yahoo is a lost cause, and we're using this technology on borrowed time. IMHO, the sooner we leave Yahoo behind, the better.

Zook


Re: [SergentEng] Re: New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

Nathan Rich
 

I'll vote for moving now, we dont lose functionality and Yahoo Groups is basically dead.

Nathan Rich

On Jan 31, 2018 09:39, "Mike Van Hove mvanhove@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Sure, go ahead and move me.


Mike Van Hove

On Jan 31, 2018, at 10:11 AM, luggw1@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Though I don't post here often, I'd vote for the move to occur now rather than later.  Groups.io is an ad-free site; it seems to work much better than Yahoo groups and offers more features to its users.

Also, by doing it now you can transfer all the members at once and avoid any potential complications from those that might take it upon themselves to individually subscribe to the groups.io list.

Just my $0.02...
Bill Lugg



Re: New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

Len T Raley
 

I strongly support a move to groups.io NOW. I think the threat to healthy continuance of Yahoo groups is real and I
much prefer the options and reading formats available at groups.io.

Be well,

Len Raley 



Re: [SergentEng] Re: New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

Mike Van Hove
 

Sure, go ahead and move me.

Mike Van Hove

On Jan 31, 2018, at 10:11 AM, luggw1@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Though I don't post here often, I'd vote for the move to occur now rather than later.  Groups.io is an ad-free site; it seems to work much better than Yahoo groups and offers more features to its users.

Also, by doing it now you can transfer all the members at once and avoid any potential complications from those that might take it upon themselves to individually subscribe to the groups.io list.

Just my $0.02...
Bill Lugg



Re: New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

luggw1@...
 

Though I don't post here often, I'd vote for the move to occur now rather than later.  Groups.io is an ad-free site; it seems to work much better than Yahoo groups and offers more features to its users.

Also, by doing it now you can transfer all the members at once and avoid any potential complications from those that might take it upon themselves to individually subscribe to the groups.io list.

Just my $0.02...
Bill Lugg


Re: New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

Jim King <jimking3@...>
 

Whenever you want/need to make the move, fine with me.  The Proto 48 group moved to IO last year with no hiccups.  The S scale Yahoo group is looking at options away from Yahoo now.

 

Jim King

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

 


Re: [SergentEng] New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

JONATHAN <jzook@...>
 


Re: New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

Mark Lewis
 

John:

IMO..we should be pro-active on this and switch/sign up at the groups.io site....soon. 
I have done this with a few other Yahoo groups I belong to and it is easy and seamless.

Mark Lewis 
Stony Point, NC 



Re: [SergentEng] New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

Jeff Young
 

I’d vote for moving now, but I don’t feel strongly.


Mr Jim Vail

Michael Looney
 

I am sorry to report that we lost Mr Jim Vail today, I don't know the causes, but let have him and his family in our prayers
Michael Looney


New Sergent Engineering @ groups.io

John Niemeyer
 

Hello All
 
While following (with interest) discussions on other groups, about the problems and possible shutdown of Yahoo. I have started a new group on groups.io https://groups.io/g/SergentEngineering . For now, I will not do anything with this group. I’m merely trying to be proactive in case Yahoo does go away. If and when the time comes, I can have all the members, discussions, photo’s and files transferred to the new group.
 
Is there any interest in doing this now?
 
John Niemeyer
Owner/Moderator
Sergent Engineering Yahoo Group
 
Administrator
Sergent Engineering Facebook page


Re: [SergentEng] Re: New HO narrow coupler box now available

Spen Kellogg <spninetynine@...>
 

On 1/20/2018 6:49 PM, 'Jim King' jimking3@... [SergentEng] wrote:
�

Thank you, Jon.� I get emails in digest mode and Yahoo strips all attachments so I couldn�t see your pix.� Can you email them to me directly?

�

I�m glad you like the parts.� John Degnan did a �little� arm-twisting to get me to make these parts because the Accurail boxes are so hard to find and there�s no other option for Sergent users in HO.� Our goal was to get as close to the Accurail box dimensions as possible (it has the same opening) but improve the outer detail, such as the frame extensions, coupler key/wedge/rivets and the buffer block features.� Self-centering was a major reason I agreed to take on this project because that is a feature the Accurail box could not provide and has been requested by many Sergent users over the years.� I re-entered HO in March 2017 (for personal modeling, not resin kit manufacturing) and plan to give Sergent couplers a real test on my equipment � having self-centering option is important to me, too.

�

I don�t plan to produce an HOn3 version because the market size is a fraction of standard gauge market with is already small.� My 2nd product, a Kadee whisker/Sergent compatible shank box, should be shipping by the 2nd week of Feb.

Jim,

Resin Car Works has just announced a coupler box. Could you speculate on the differences or similarities to your coupler box? Here is a link to their product announcement.

http://resincarworks.com/decals_parts.htm

Thanks,

Spen Kellogg

�



Re: [SergentEng] Availability date correction for new Kadee/Sergent coupler boxes

Joseph Pyland
 

 

Jim,

 

I would rather be told it is coming out and then be early, then the later.  It seems like most of the time the release date is missed.

 

Joe Pyland

 

 

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Subject: [SergentEng] Availability date correction for new Kadee/Sergent coupler boxes

 

 

The release date for new Kadee/Sergent coupler boxes in yesterday’s announcement was incorrect.  It should have read “second week of February”, not March.  Somehow, I missed a month!  The web page has also been corrected (see link below).

 

http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com/HO_draft_gear+cplrs.html

 

Jim King

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

 


Re: New HO narrow coupler box now available

Jim King <jimking3@...>
 

Thank you, Jon.  I get emails in digest mode and Yahoo strips all attachments so I couldn’t see your pix.  Can you email them to me directly?

 

I’m glad you like the parts.  John Degnan did a “little” arm-twisting to get me to make these parts because the Accurail boxes are so hard to find and there’s no other option for Sergent users in HO.  Our goal was to get as close to the Accurail box dimensions as possible (it has the same opening) but improve the outer detail, such as the frame extensions, coupler key/wedge/rivets and the buffer block features.  Self-centering was a major reason I agreed to take on this project because that is a feature the Accurail box could not provide and has been requested by many Sergent users over the years.  I re-entered HO in March 2017 (for personal modeling, not resin kit manufacturing) and plan to give Sergent couplers a real test on my equipment … having self-centering option is important to me, too.

 

I don’t plan to produce an HOn3 version because the market size is a fraction of standard gauge market with is already small.  My 2nd product, a Kadee whisker/Sergent compatible shank box, should be shipping by the 2nd week of Feb.

 

Jim King

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

 


Re: [SergentEng] Re: New HO narrow coupler box now available

Mike Conder
 

That's exactly what I expected, and good to hear confirmation.

Mike Conder 


Re: Comments on proposed Sharon box

Dale Buxton
 

I totally Agree with all of your comments.

Dale


Re: [SergentEng] Re: New HO narrow coupler box now available

John Degnan
 

The 'slinky effect" is IMPOSSIBLE with this new draft gear box as the spring does not move the coupler forward or backwards... only left to right.  The screw boss in the box is round like the hole in the coupler's shank, so forward and rearward movement is not possible.



John Degnan

Scaler164@...


On January 20, 2018 at 12:00 PM "Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 
Photos came through fine for me, thanks Jon..

Looks pretty good to me, too.

I assume the centering does not create the "slinky" effect that Kadees have due to the fixed post and non-slotted coupler connecting?

Mike Conder 

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:35 AM jzook@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,

I received my first batch of draft gear boxes from Jim, and assembled a couple last night with the Sharon couplers.  Attached here are photos of the coupler boxes with the couplers installed.  I'm having some difficulty posting photos in my photo album, so I hope the attachments come through. 

I assembled these with the centering spring option. Couple of observations on these new draft gearboxes.  They are wider than the Accumate draft gearboxes, so for our HOn3 application, I envision some filing down of the sides to allow the trucks to swing further left and right.  This will not be an issue for HO standard gauge applications.  Also, with the Accumate draft gear boxes, they're too long to fit on a narrow gauge freight car, so trimming of the length is necessary for them to fit between the end sill and the bolster.  The same is required with the new draft gear boxes.  I don't see this being an issue that would affect the ability of the centering spring, but it may require removing enough of the draft gear to render the second mounting hole unnecessary.  As is typically the case with us narrow gauge modelers, we have to make modifications to make things work.

Regardless, I like the design, and it's nice to have this draft gear available to us. I'll definitely be purchasing more, and I recommend them to my fellow modelers.  With more operational trial, I'll let you know what I think of the centering spring option.  Not having had this option in the past, I don't really see myself using the centering spring, but it's a nice option to have available for those who prefer it..

More to come.

Take care, and have a great weekend.

Jon

 


 


Re: [SergentEng] Re: New HO narrow coupler box now available

Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Jon,

Thanks for the report and the photos. Both are very much appreciated. 

Looking forward to the “operational report”.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:34 AM, jzook@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I received my first batch of draft gear boxes from Jim, and assembled a couple last night with the Sharon couplers.  Attached here are photos of the coupler boxes with the couplers installed.  I'm having some difficulty posting photos in my photo album, so I hope the attachments come through.  

I assembled these with the centering spring option. Couple of observations on these new draft gearboxes.  They are wider than the Accumate draft gearboxes, so for our HOn3 application, I envision some filing down of the sides to allow the trucks to swing further left and right.  This will not be an issue for HO standard gauge applications.  Also, with the Accumate draft gear boxes, they're too long to fit on a narrow gauge freight car, so trimming of the length is necessary for them to fit between the end sill and the bolster.  The same is required with the new draft gear boxes.  I don't see this being an issue that would affect the ability of the centering spring, but it may require removing enough of the draft gear to render the second mounting hole unnecessary.  As is typically the case with us narrow gauge modelers, we have to make modifications to make things work.

Regardless, I like the design, and it's nice to have this draft gear available to us. I'll definitely be purchasing more, and I recommend them to my fellow modelers.  With more operational trial, I'll let you know what I think of the centering spring option.  Not having had this option in the past, I don't really see myself using the centering spring, but it's a nice option to have available for those who prefer it.

More to come.

Take care, and have a great weekend.

Jon



Re: [SergentEng] Re: New HO narrow coupler box now available

Mike Conder
 

Photos came through fine for me, thanks Jon.

Looks pretty good to me, too.

I assume the centering does not create the "slinky" effect that Kadees have due to the fixed post and non-slotted coupler connecting?

Mike Conder 


On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:35 AM jzook@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,

I received my first batch of draft gear boxes from Jim, and assembled a couple last night with the Sharon couplers.  Attached here are photos of the coupler boxes with the couplers installed.  I'm having some difficulty posting photos in my photo album, so I hope the attachments come through. 

I assembled these with the centering spring option. Couple of observations on these new draft gearboxes.  They are wider than the Accumate draft gearboxes, so for our HOn3 application, I envision some filing down of the sides to allow the trucks to swing further left and right.  This will not be an issue for HO standard gauge applications.  Also, with the Accumate draft gear boxes, they're too long to fit on a narrow gauge freight car, so trimming of the length is necessary for them to fit between the end sill and the bolster.  The same is required with the new draft gear boxes.  I don't see this being an issue that would affect the ability of the centering spring, but it may require removing enough of the draft gear to render the second mounting hole unnecessary.  As is typically the case with us narrow gauge modelers, we have to make modifications to make things work.

Regardless, I like the design, and it's nice to have this draft gear available to us. I'll definitely be purchasing more, and I recommend them to my fellow modelers.  With more operational trial, I'll let you know what I think of the centering spring option.  Not having had this option in the past, I don't really see myself using the centering spring, but it's a nice option to have available for those who prefer it.

More to come.

Take care, and have a great weekend.

Jon