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Re: Making the plunge!

John Niemeyer
 

Ed
 
I modified the draft gear box from a Micro Trains Line (MTL) 1025/1029 to work with the RNB87K couplers for several of my HOn3 models, including some Labelle. It would be nice if someone better than me, would make that draft gear box and sell it. I would buy hundreds for my HOn30 fleet.
 
Also if you’re worried about shorting thru the couplers. How often are you going to couple a rod engine front to front? The rear coupler is almost always insulated anyway, so not an issue. For my brass engines, I have successfully use Sergent RS1P87 & ES1P87 front pilot couplers with very little modifications to the engine.
 
John
 
 
I "bit the bullet" today and ordered a "starter kit" of RNC87's. I have some LaBelle box cars that have very little space between them when coupled together, so I am hopeful the C's will leave room for the uncupling wand. These cars will belong to the Red Mountain R.R., a switchback line off the summit of my HOn3 Colorado R.R.. I got an email back from Frank @ Sergent last night, and he said I would have no compatibility issues mixing the Sharon's with SBEC87P130K's. I plan to use the sbec's as pilot couplers on my rod engines. All my loco's are DeadRail, so I don't have to worry about electrical shorts if I double head the hill. :-) He also said he can supply the bulk (144) pack of RNC87K's. Said just order the B's, and send an email stating I really want the C's.  :-)


Re: Making the plunge!

Ed Tibbetts <tippytib@...>
 

I "bit the bullet" today and ordered a "starter kit" of RNC87's. I have some LaBelle box cars that have very little space between them when coupled together, so I am hopeful the C's will leave room for the uncupling wand. These cars will belong to the Red Mountain R.R., a switchback line off the summit of my HOn3 Colorado R.R.. I got an email back from Frank @ Sergent last night, and he said I would have no compatibility issues mixing the Sharon's with SBEC87P130K's. I plan to use the sbec's as pilot couplers on my rod engines. All my loco's are DeadRail, so I don't have to worry about electrical shorts if I double head the hill. :-) He also said he can supply the bulk (144) pack of RNC87K's. Said just order the B's, and send an email stating I really want the C's.  :-)


Re: Coupler comparison

Mark Lewis
 

Ken:

I had no trouble viewing your photos.

Thank you for the info on which specific Sergent coupler you are using for a replacement of the Kadee #26, in Sn3.

Mark Lewis


Re: Coupler comparison

Ken Neufeld
 

Mike and Mark
You have to be logged in to the io groups. Photo directory is on the left. Title is coupler comparison.
I am using the HO compatible shank, .100 extended version for boxcars. This one will replace the #26 wherever it is used.

Ken


Re: Coupler comparison

Mark Lewis
 

Ken:

IMO- the Sergent looks most prototypical. Which Sergent coupler are you using for Sn3?

Mark Lewis


Re: New Member

tomsmodeltrains@...
 

Hello Group Members....I model HO and O scale passenger car equipment both heavyweight and streamline. I slice, dice and kit bash all of this equipment. Unfortunately the diaphragms on the cars preclude the use of the Sergent coupler. However, if I were to start modeling the older, wooden, open platform equipment, I'd use the Sergents. In the mean time I enjoy reading the posts and find them to be very informative.....Tom Bavolar


Re: Coupler comparison

Mike Conder
 

Ken, the IO site doesn't yet have all the functionality of the old Yahoo group, so I can't find your photos ... the listing sequence is fixed and basically alphabetical.. So can you let us know the name of the album with your photos?

Thanks, Mike Conder


Coupler comparison

Ken Neufeld
 

I added 3 photos to the photo directory.
This is to compare prototype, Sergent and Kadee. The boxcar is Sn3 and the Kadee is a #26.
Comments on the appearance, prototype to either of the others.
Thanks,
Ken Neufeld


New subscriber

Peter Burr
 

I have been experimenting with Sergent couplers for several months on my 2x20’ layout. So far, I’m very pleased in that setting. When operating on my club layout I use Kaydee’s for interchangeability.


Re: Making the plunge!

Jonathan Zook
 

Hi Ed,

Glad to hear you're going to start the conversion to the Sharon couplers.  Sergent Engineering does indeed sell a 144 count pack of Sharons.  It's item # ENC87KB, and can be found on the narrow shank link on his website.  If you haven't already, I suggest picking up a copy of the HOn3 Annual from 2014 to read the article John Niemeyer, Mike Conder, and I wrote about the Sharon couplers.  Here's the link if you don't own it:

https://shop.whiteriverproductions.com/products/ho14

As far as coupling compatibility with other Sergent couplers, I don't have any experience with that.  Hopefully someone else here on the forum can provide feedback.

Good luck!

Jon


Re: Sergent Engineering My intro

Mike Van Hove
 

Hi,

I’ve been a HO Standard gage modeler for way too many years. I have just over 100 freight and passing cars, all from the 1900 to 1910 era. My road is the Colorado Midland.

I got the rolling stock all hooked uo with Kadees, several years ago.

I forget what made me try the Sergent Couplers, but I did and really loved the fact they don’t do that accordian dance, as the train moves along.

Next thing you know, I was converting all these cars and locos to Sergents.

Now, as I’m getting older, my wife says we should move to Lenoir Woods, a nice retirement village near us.

We are on the waiting list for a home. No way we could cram even 1/4 of our “Stuff” into an apartment.

One thing is for certain, my 8’ x 30’ Colorado Midland layout will see the chainsaw.

My plan (in my mind), is to build some small modules in HOn3. (My wife hasn’t been told about this plan, yet).

I also have 2 Blackstone Engines, and 1 Westside T-12, which now have Sergents.

Naturally, I can’t wait, so I’m building Rail Line and Labelle kits, in HOn3.

Also, naturally, the couplers are Sergent. Most likely I will have only 20 or 30 cars total, as there is no way there will be room for more.

So, I have to sell off the Standard Gage rolling stock. The cars all have Sergents, but I’m including the Kadees, for the uneducated folks who don’t appreciate Sergents. 😀

So, now, you know more about my hobby then you wanted know.

Thanks for switching me over to this new chat venue.

Mike Van Hove


Making the plunge!

Ed Tibbetts <tippytib@...>
 

I am about ready to " make the plunge" and convert my 50 pieces of HOn3 rolling stock/engines to Sergent couplers. They all have Kadee 714's now. I have 2 questions. 
Are the Sharon's compatible with the other Sergent couplers?
Can I get a q144 "bulk" pack of the Sharon RNC87 couplers? (Like the RNB's)

Thanks.    Ed T.
P.S.  My first post. Been watching quietly for a couple of years.


Re: Sergent Engineering My intro

Mark Plank
 

I've been a longtime lurker, but now that I received some S scale Sergent couplers for Christmas, it is time to start converting to them.

Mark Plank
Modeling the Toledo & Ohio Central (NYC Lines) St. Marys branch in 1915 in S scale

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM, Mark Stamm <mark@...> wrote:
As requested, let me introduce myself... I’ve been a modeler since I was old enough to have a hobby knife. There where many starts and stops that got in the way, but today I enjoy myself as I can. I have for the most part been an observer of the this group, but I have acquired multiple pairs of the Sergent couplers to test. Once the final plan for the railroad comes together the final decision will be made, as of today I have lots of cars with no coupler applied. 

I look forward to reading the discussions as they unfold. 

Mark



Re: Intro

James Wall
 

I have been a member of the group for several year and having been using Sergent couplers almost since their introduction.  I mainly use them between my locos for now and plan to convert the remainder of my car fleet at some point.

James Wall
Rural Hall, NC


Re: Sergent Engineering First Post

Matthew Turner
 

Hi I am another Aussie and I also model railways in South Australia but for me my modeling focus is set in the mid 1980's to mid 90's when the railways were operated by Australian National. 
 So for me it is mainly lower shelf with the occasional standard E and double shelf couples where applicable.

Matthew Turner
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


From: SergentEngineering@groups.io <SergentEngineering@groups.io> on behalf of Ross Hurley <rosshurley@...>
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018 10:42 AM
To: SergentEngineering@groups.io
Subject: Sergent Engineering First Post
 
Brief intro. I use Sergent couplers for auto-coupled stock on an Australian broad gauge layout (genuine broad gauge - 18.39mm), set in the 1920s. The South Australian Railways had an American commissioner then who Americanised the rail system, replacing antiquated and inefficient British style locos, rolling stock and operating practices. I model the transition era so both types of rolling stock are in use, which means I have to use another coupler on the old chain- and drawhook-coupled stock. It's an interesting mix but the Sergents are perfect for the job they do.

Ross Hurley
Adelaide, Australia



Intro

Daniel Hancock
 

Gday,
Daniel here, I’ve had to swap some locos and stock to the sergent rotary couplers to make a working rotary dumper. They work perfectly and the thing hasn’t missed a beat!

Cheers, Daniel

Sent from my iPhone


First Post

Jason McKee <jasmckee@...>
 

Hi Guys,
First post of many, southern pacific modeler, in ho, I am using sergent couplers for everything, don’t have a layout at the moment, but enjoy building kits for the future layout

Jason


Re: Sergent Engineering First Post - or maybe not

David Jobe, Sr.
 

John,

A suggestion. It would be better to use an entirely new email rather than a reply with a subject change. Using your method buries your new subject in an old, unrelated conversation or thread thereby making it more difficult to find later.

David Jobe, Sr.
Saint Ann, Missouri

-----Original Message-----
From: SergentEngineering@groups.io [mailto:SergentEngineering@groups.io] On Behalf Of John Hagen via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 10:37 AM
To: SergentEngineering@groups.io
Subject: Re: {Sergent Engineering} Sergent Engineering First Post - or maybe not

I use Outlook as my email program but I doubt that makes much difference.
I have all my normal emails sent automatically to folders. So when a group switches from YG to grous.io I just have the emails from the groups.io sent to the same folder. That way I receive them all and can reply to them all.
For this group they go to my "Sergent" folder. Works very well and is basically fool proof. The fact that a fool such as I can do it without screwing it up is proof.
For creating a new subject I simply hit reply and then change the subject line.
John Hagen

-----Original Message-----
From: SergentEngineering@groups.io [mailto:SergentEngineering@groups.io] On Behalf Of TL
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:37 AM
To: SergentEngineering@groups.io
Subject: Sergent Engineering First Post - or maybe not

Well I guess I'll join in and see if this goes through. First post on io but not my first post ever...

I've had Sergents since 2004 (I still have an unopened pack of the original pewter casting couplers) but did take a lengthy hiatus from using them after getting frustrated with assembly and breakage of the original style. For those that don't know I'm the person responsible for the "Great Sergent Coupler Drought" of a few years back.

Tim
Land of Oz


Re: Sergent Engineering First Post - or maybe not

John Hagen
 

I use Outlook as my email program but I doubt that makes much difference.
I have all my normal emails sent automatically to folders. So when a group switches from YG to grous.io I just have the emails from the groups.io sent to the same folder. That way I receive them all and can reply to them all.
For this group they go to my "Sergent" folder. Works very well and is basically fool proof. The fact that a fool such as I can do it without screwing it up is proof.
For creating a new subject I simply hit reply and then change the subject line.
John Hagen

-----Original Message-----
From: SergentEngineering@groups.io [mailto:SergentEngineering@groups.io] On Behalf Of TL
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:37 AM
To: SergentEngineering@groups.io
Subject: Sergent Engineering First Post - or maybe not

Well I guess I'll join in and see if this goes through. First post on io but not my first post ever...

I've had Sergents since 2004 (I still have an unopened pack of the original pewter casting couplers) but did take a lengthy hiatus from using them after getting frustrated with assembly and breakage of the original style. For those that don't know I'm the person responsible for the "Great Sergent Coupler Drought" of a few years back.

Tim
Land of Oz


First Post - or maybe not

Tim L
 

Well I guess I'll join in and see if this goes through. First post on .io but not my first post ever...

I've had Sergents since 2004 (I still have an unopened pack of the original pewter casting couplers) but did take a lengthy hiatus from using them after getting frustrated with assembly and breakage of the original style. For those that don't know I'm the person responsible for the "Great Sergent Coupler Drought" of a few years back.

Tim
Land of Oz