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Re: [SergentEng] Re: Coupler

Mike Conder

#793

I got on their web site, scanned through their 25 minute video in less than 20 minutes (a lot of explanation for newbies that I didn't need, especially in making a couple of jigs). Installation looks quite easy, I think I will plunk down the $$$ for 10 pair and see how they do on Blackstone HOn3 cars.

As they say, the proof is in the pudding. Worked for the Sergent couplers, will see with this.

Mike Conder

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On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Arved Grass arved_grass@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

The mind plays tricks. Yes, that's it! The article was on his working cushioned draft gear IIRC.

Yeah, I've also wondered about using the high-tech air hoses with some sort of replacement magnetic glad hand. Please keep us (or at least me) updated on your progress.

If you do a search on PWRS, you'll find they had a very sketchy past. I'm not eager to do business with them, but I went on the web site, and filled out the information for the Porter's discount thingy. I got a call later asking when I could schedule some time in the next couple weeks to go over things. I was told it would take 40 minutes for a walk through of the web site. I declined. I don't mind a few ads or a newsletter to get a discount, but this sounded preposterous. #1 rule in business ought to be not to make it complicated for your customers to do business with you. I'm not impressed.

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Fri, 5/15/15, 'David R. Olsen' drolsen@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Coupler
To: "SergentEng@..." <SergentEng@...>
Date: Friday, May 15, 2015, 7:45 AM

On May
14, 2015, at 12:49, Arved Grass <arved_grass@...>
wrote:About 20 years ago, there was an
article in (I believe) Railmodel Journal. It wasn't
specifically about modeling magnetic air hoses, but had a
caption in one of the photos that the modeler used cut up
bits of refrigerator magnets as glad hands for his
models.
That was Dave Davis,
who also wrote a couple articles about his amazing working
cushioned underframes on some of his HO box cars (an 86'
auto parts car and an Atlas Evans
RBL).
I'm not a big fan
of the appearance of the NARC hoses and want to attempt
Dave's technique using Hi-Tech's hoses. It will
likely add some bulk to the glad hands, but I think it will
look better than NARC's plain hoses. I'll have to
experiment to see how large a magnet will be needed to keep
the hoses securely connected.
On May 15, 2015, at 02:21, TS <egroupstuff@...>
wrote:I've
always been a bit backwards :-) At least I had the right
two companies.
As I understand it,
they're essentially the same company anyway.
North American Railcar Corporation is the
manufacturing arm of Pacific Western Rail Systems, which is
why they're sold exclusively through PWRS. Another way
to look at it could be that NARC is the brand name for
products manufactured by PWRS. I'm sure there's more
to it from a legal and management standpoint, but that's
how I understand it. PWRS or its investors / owners decided
to get into the manufacturing business, rather than just
having other manufacturers produced custom run models for
them, so they created NARC.
Dave OlsenAlexandria,
VA

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Re: [SergentEng] PWRS

arved_grass

#792

LOL From Australia, everything is overseas.

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Fri, 5/15/15, Nathan Rich thaddeusthudpucker@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [SergentEng] PWRS
 To: "SergentEng@..." <SergentEng@...>
 Date: Friday, May 15, 2015, 11:23 AM

       Depends on your perspective, from Australia it
 is...
 Nathan

 On Friday, May 15, 2015, Arved
 Grass arved_grass@...
 [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...>
 wrote:

       Since when is Alexandria, VA is overseas? :-P

 I may go ahead and buy some of their magnetic air hoses, but
 the ROI for 40 minutes of my life isn't worth whatever
 the Porter's discount might be.

 Arved Grass

 Arved_Grass@... or
 Arved@...

 Fleming Island, Florida

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 On Fri, 5/15/15, 'David R. Olsen' drolsen@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Coupler

  To: "SergentEng@..." <SergentEng@...>

  Date: Friday, May 15, 2015, 8:59 AM

        On May 15,

  2015, at 08:29, Arved Grass <arved_grass@...>

  wrote:

  If you do a search on PWRS,

  you'll find they had a very sketchy past. I'm
 not

  eager to do business with them, but I went on the web
 site,

  and filled out the information for the Porter's
 discount

  thingy. I got a call later asking when I could schedule
 some

  time in the next couple weeks to go over things. I was
 told

  it would take 40 minutes for a walk through of the web
 site.

  I declined.

  I went through

  this with them 3 years ago because I wanted to buy some
 of

  their NARC Canadian cylindrical grain hoppers. I was

  deployed overseas at the time, so after filling out the

  Porters info, I received an email from them asking for me
 to

  call, and I responded by emailing telling them that it
 was

  difficult to call from overseas and that I wanted to do

  whatever I could online. They went ahead and set up

  everything they could for me remotely but said that I
 would

  still need to call them to give them my credit card info
 for

  the account. I was pretty floored that they didn't
 have

  a process for taking payment info over the web like
 every

  other vendor in this day and age, but I really wanted
 those

  grain hoppers..,

  I had

  heard all the horror stories on the Diesel List over the

  years about PWRS cold calling people and sending giant
 email

  ads with huge attachments, so I was very hesitant about

  doing business with them. I called them via Skype and
 talked

  to a very nice man who took my payment info. I really

  don't remember what we talked about, but it was
 probably

  a 5-10 minute conversation. I think he confirmed the
 four

  cars that I wanted to order and my other account

  info.

  I think PWRS is

  trying to create a sales model that includes a

  "personal" touch where you interact with a
 real

  human being, and they're inadvertently making it into
 a

  slightly painful and strange process. Part of the reason

  they want to hold this long phone conversation is
 apparently

  so they can gauge your interests and "tailor"
 your

  account for your hobby needs. Essentially what I think
 that
 
  means is that they will keep a record of what railroads
 you

  model, your era of interest, whether you like diesels,

  steam, etc. That may mean that they'll send you more
 ads

  tailored to those interests, but to date, I've only

  received their periodic (monthly) email ads, just like

  Caboose Hobbies or any other dealer. I would talk with
 them

  by phone again (I need to update my payment info), but I

  would make it clear to them that I can't spend 30

  minutes on the phone to do it.

  Dave OlsenAlexandria,

  VA

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Re: [SergentEng] PWRS

Nathan Rich <thaddeusthudpucker@...>

#791

Depends on your perspective, from Australia it is...

Nathan

Show quoted text

On Friday, May 15, 2015, Arved Grass arved_grass@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Since when is Alexandria, VA is overseas? :-P

I may go ahead and buy some of their magnetic air hoses, but the ROI for 40 minutes of my life isn't worth whatever the Porter's discount might be.

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 5/15/15, 'David R. Olsen' drolsen@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Coupler
To: "SergentEng@..." <SergentEng@...>
Date: Friday, May 15, 2015, 8:59 AM

On May 15,
2015, at 08:29, Arved Grass <arved_grass@...>
wrote:
If you do a search on PWRS,
you'll find they had a very sketchy past. I'm not
eager to do business with them, but I went on the web site,
and filled out the information for the Porter's discount
thingy. I got a call later asking when I could schedule some
time in the next couple weeks to go over things. I was told
it would take 40 minutes for a walk through of the web site.
I declined.
I went through
this with them 3 years ago because I wanted to buy some of
their NARC Canadian cylindrical grain hoppers. I was
deployed overseas at the time, so after filling out the
Porters info, I received an email from them asking for me to
call, and I responded by emailing telling them that it was
difficult to call from overseas and that I wanted to do
whatever I could online. They went ahead and set up
everything they could for me remotely but said that I would
still need to call them to give them my credit card info for
the account. I was pretty floored that they didn't have
a process for taking payment info over the web like every
other vendor in this day and age, but I really wanted those
grain hoppers..,
I had
heard all the horror stories on the Diesel List over the
years about PWRS cold calling people and sending giant email
ads with huge attachments, so I was very hesitant about
doing business with them. I called them via Skype and talked
to a very nice man who took my payment info. I really
don't remember what we talked about, but it was probably
a 5-10 minute conversation. I think he confirmed the four
cars that I wanted to order and my other account
info.
I think PWRS is
trying to create a sales model that includes a
"personal" touch where you interact with a real
human being, and they're inadvertently making it into a
slightly painful and strange process. Part of the reason
they want to hold this long phone conversation is apparently
so they can gauge your interests and "tailor" your
account for your hobby needs. Essentially what I think that
means is that they will keep a record of what railroads you
model, your era of interest, whether you like diesels,
steam, etc. That may mean that they'll send you more ads
tailored to those interests, but to date, I've only
received their periodic (monthly) email ads, just like
Caboose Hobbies or any other dealer. I would talk with them
by phone again (I need to update my payment info), but I
would make it clear to them that I can't spend 30
minutes on the phone to do it.
Dave OlsenAlexandria,
VA

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PWRS

arved_grass

#790

Since when is Alexandria, VA is overseas? :-P

I may go ahead and buy some of their magnetic air hoses, but the ROI for 40 minutes of my life isn't worth whatever the Porter's discount might be.

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

--------------------------------------------

Show quoted text

On Fri, 5/15/15, 'David R. Olsen' drolsen@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Coupler
 To: "SergentEng@..." <SergentEng@...>
 Date: Friday, May 15, 2015, 8:59 AM


  






  


       On May 15,
 2015, at 08:29, Arved Grass <arved_grass@...>
 wrote:
 If you do a search on PWRS,
 you'll find they had a very sketchy past. I'm not
 eager to do business with them, but I went on the web site,
 and filled out the information for the Porter's discount
 thingy. I got a call later asking when I could schedule some
 time in the next couple weeks to go over things. I was told
 it would take 40 minutes for a walk through of the web site.
 I declined.
 I went through
 this with them 3 years ago because I wanted to buy some of
 their NARC Canadian cylindrical grain hoppers. I was
 deployed overseas at the time, so after filling out the
 Porters info, I received an email from them asking for me to
 call, and I responded by emailing telling them that it was
 difficult to call from overseas and that I wanted to do
 whatever I could online. They went ahead and set up
 everything they could for me remotely but said that I would
 still need to call them to give them my credit card info for
 the account. I was pretty floored that they didn't have
 a process for taking payment info over the web like every
 other vendor in this day and age, but I really wanted those
 grain hoppers..,
 I had
 heard all the horror stories on the Diesel List over the
 years about PWRS cold calling people and sending giant email
 ads with huge attachments, so I was very hesitant about
 doing business with them. I called them via Skype and talked
 to a very nice man who took my payment info. I really
 don't remember what we talked about, but it was probably
 a 5-10 minute conversation. I think he confirmed the four
 cars that I wanted to order and my other account
 info.
 I think PWRS is
 trying to create a sales model that includes a
 "personal" touch where you interact with a real
 human being, and they're inadvertently making it into a
 slightly painful and strange process. Part of the reason
 they want to hold this long phone conversation is apparently
 so they can gauge your interests and "tailor" your
 account for your hobby needs. Essentially what I think that
 means is that they will keep a record of what railroads you
 model, your era of interest, whether you like diesels,
 steam, etc. That may mean that they'll send you more ads
 tailored to those interests, but to date, I've only
 received their periodic (monthly) email ads, just like
 Caboose Hobbies or any other dealer. I would talk with them
 by phone again (I need to update my payment info), but I
 would make it clear to them that I can't spend 30
 minutes on the phone to do it.
 Dave OlsenAlexandria,
 VA










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Re: Coupler

David R. Olsen <drolsen@...>

#789

On May 15, 2015, at 08:29, Arved Grass <arved_grass@...> wrote:
If you do a search on PWRS, you'll find they had a very sketchy past. I'm not eager to do business with them, but I went on the web site, and filled out the information for the Porter's discount thingy. I got a call later asking when I could schedule some time in the next couple weeks to go over things. I was told it would take 40 minutes for a walk through of the web site. I declined.
I went through this with them 3 years ago because I wanted to buy some of their NARC Canadian cylindrical grain hoppers. I was deployed overseas at the time, so after filling out the Porters info, I received an email from them asking for me to call, and I responded by emailing telling them that it was difficult to call from overseas and that I wanted to do whatever I could online. They went ahead and set up everything they could for me remotely but said that I would still need to call them to give them my credit card info for the account. I was pretty floored that they didn't have a process for taking payment info over the web like every other vendor in this day and age, but I really wanted those grain hoppers..,

I had heard all the horror stories on the Diesel List over the years about PWRS cold calling people and sending giant email ads with huge attachments, so I was very hesitant about doing business with them. I called them via Skype and talked to a very nice man who took my payment info. I really don't remember what we talked about, but it was probably a 5-10 minute conversation. I think he confirmed the four cars that I wanted to order and my other account info.

I think PWRS is trying to create a sales model that includes a "personal" touch where you interact with a real human being, and they're inadvertently making it into a slightly painful and strange process. Part of the reason they want to hold this long phone conversation is apparently so they can gauge your interests and "tailor" your account for your hobby needs. Essentially what I think that means is that they will keep a record of what railroads you model, your era of interest, whether you like diesels, steam, etc. That may mean that they'll send you more ads tailored to those interests, but to date, I've only received their periodic (monthly) email ads, just like Caboose Hobbies or any other dealer. I would talk with them by phone again (I need to update my payment info), but I would make it clear to them that I can't spend 30 minutes on the phone to do it.

Dave Olsen

Alexandria, VA

Re: [SergentEng] Re: Coupler

arved_grass

#788

The mind plays tricks. Yes, that's it! The article was on his working cushioned draft gear IIRC.

Yeah, I've also wondered about using the high-tech air hoses with some sort of replacement magnetic glad hand. Please keep us (or at least me) updated on your progress.

If you do a search on PWRS, you'll find they had a very sketchy past. I'm not eager to do business with them, but I went on the web site, and filled out the information for the Porter's discount thingy. I got a call later asking when I could schedule some time in the next couple weeks to go over things. I was told it would take 40 minutes for a walk through of the web site. I declined. I don't mind a few ads or a  newsletter to get a discount, but this sounded preposterous. #1 rule in business ought to be not to make it complicated for your customers to do business with you. I'm not impressed.

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Fri, 5/15/15, 'David R. Olsen' drolsen@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Coupler
 To: "SergentEng@..." <SergentEng@...>
 Date: Friday, May 15, 2015, 7:45 AM


  






   


       On May
 14, 2015, at 12:49, Arved Grass <arved_grass@...>
 wrote:About 20 years ago, there was an
 article in (I believe) Railmodel Journal. It wasn't
 specifically about modeling magnetic air hoses, but had a
 caption in one of the photos that the modeler used cut up
 bits of refrigerator magnets as glad hands for his
 models.
 That was Dave Davis,
 who also wrote a couple articles about his amazing working
 cushioned underframes on some of his HO box cars (an 86'
 auto parts car and an Atlas Evans
 RBL).
 I'm not a big fan
 of the appearance of the NARC hoses and want to attempt
 Dave's technique using Hi-Tech's hoses. It will
 likely add some bulk to the glad hands, but I think it will
 look better than NARC's plain hoses. I'll have to
 experiment to see how large a magnet will be needed to keep
 the hoses securely connected.
 On May 15, 2015, at 02:21, TS <egroupstuff@...>
 wrote:I've
 always been a bit backwards :-) At least I had the right
 two companies.
 As I understand it,
 they're essentially the same company anyway.
  North American Railcar Corporation is the
 manufacturing arm of Pacific Western Rail Systems, which is
 why they're sold exclusively through PWRS. Another way
 to look at it could be that NARC is the brand name for
 products manufactured by PWRS. I'm sure there's more
 to it from a legal and management standpoint, but that's
 how I understand it. PWRS or its investors / owners decided
 to get into the manufacturing business, rather than just
 having other manufacturers produced custom run models for
 them, so they created NARC.
 Dave OlsenAlexandria,
 VA



















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Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Alan Hummel

#787

Pacific Western Rail Systems in Canada markets them.

Al Hummel

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

arved_grass

#786

They're perfect! Except I see no mention of them being magnetic.

Are you sure?

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Thu, 5/14/15, Andy Jackson lajrmdlr@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Coupler
 To: SergentEng@...
 Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 12:59 PM

       Hi Tech Details makes
 them w/ magnetic glad hands: http://www.hitechdetails.com/AAR_Hoses.html
 Andy Jackson
 Bellflower CA

 Andy Jackson
 Bellflower CA

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at
 9:49 AM, Arved Grass arved_grass@...
 [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...>
 wrote:

       You have it precisely 180 degrees backward. :-)
 They're made by North American Railcar Corporation, and
 sold exclusively by Pacific Western Rail Systems. $34.95
 (give or take depending on US/Canadian exchange rate) for 10
 pair.

 About 20 years ago, there was an article in (I believe)
 Railmodel Journal. It wasn't specifically about modeling
 magnetic air hoses, but had a caption in one of the photos
 that the modeler used cut up bits of refrigerator magnets as
 glad hands for his models. The thinnest (business card type)
 refrigerator magnets I've seen is 12 mil.

 That may be another option. Look at the refrigerator magnet
 your pizza guy gave you. I bet you cold make a whole lot of
 glad hands for zero dollars investment!

 Arved Grass

 Arved_Grass@...
 or Arved@...

 Fleming Island, Florida

 --------------------------------------------

 On Thu, 5/14/15, TS egroupstuff@...
 [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...>
 wrote:

 Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

  To: SergentEng@...

  Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 12:35 PM

        Magnalock brake lines, by Pacific Western Rail

  Systems is who does them

  (sold by NARcorp now I think).

  Nice, but pricy for what they are (read how much work
 you

  have to do).

  For the cost of magnets and thin rubber hose you can

  probably do

  cheaper than the PWRS ones.

  I have also read that they are possibly a little on the

  strong side,

  with a user stating one needs to give a bit of a hand

  restraining

  the wagons so they'll part properly. Mind you this
 is
 
  small 4 wheel

  stock he was using them on.

  Cheers,

  Tim

  Land of OZ

  On 15/05/2015 01:55, Mike Conder vulturenest1@...

  [SergentEng] wrote:

  > Somebody already makes rubber air hoses with
 magnetic

  glad hands in HO

  > scale, but I do not remember the company name.   I
 saw

  it in that

  > electronic magazine, Model Railroad Hobbyist.
 
  >

  >

  > Mike Conder

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Re: Coupler

David R. Olsen <drolsen@...>

#785

On May 14, 2015, at 12:49, Arved Grass <arved_grass@...> wrote:

About 20 years ago, there was an article in (I believe) Railmodel Journal. It wasn't specifically about modeling magnetic air hoses, but had a caption in one of the photos that the modeler used cut up bits of refrigerator magnets as glad hands for his models.

That was Dave Davis, who also wrote a couple articles about his amazing working cushioned underframes on some of his HO box cars (an 86' auto parts car and an Atlas Evans RBL).

I'm not a big fan of the appearance of the NARC hoses and want to attempt Dave's technique using Hi-Tech's hoses. It will likely add some bulk to the glad hands, but I think it will look better than NARC's plain hoses. I'll have to experiment to see how large a magnet will be needed to keep the hoses securely connected.

On May 15, 2015, at 02:21, TS <egroupstuff@...> wrote:I've always been a bit backwards :-) At least I had the right two companies.

As I understand it, they're essentially the same company anyway. North American Railcar Corporation is the manufacturing arm of Pacific Western Rail Systems, which is why they're sold exclusively through PWRS. Another way to look at it could be that NARC is the brand name for products manufactured by PWRS. I'm sure there's more to it from a legal and management standpoint, but that's how I understand it. PWRS or its investors / owners decided to get into the manufacturing business, rather than just having other manufacturers produced custom run models for them, so they created NARC.

Dave Olsen

Alexandria, VA

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Tim L

#784

I've always been a bit backwards :-) At least I had the right two
companies.

To address Mikes response; Value for money, like beauty, is always
going to be in the eye of the beholder. Besides the exchange rate and
shipping (which does add a lot to the pricey tag) unless things have
changed since I last read up on them you basically get a bag of raw
parts (magnets, rubber tube and wire) which you have to cut to length
and glue. The perceived value of those raw parts and the amount of work
that has to be done by me against the retail value is what I call
pricey - I think we could be paying more for the idea than the value of
the product included.

On the flip side I don't think yourself, or anyone here calls Franks
couplers pricey but I've read it many, many times on the 'net. To them,
the perceived value of those little bit's of Zinc and they still have
to assemble them (or pay more for it to already be done) makes it
pricey.

I'll stop now, I'm just rambling on going nowhere fast. Perhaps I
shouldn't have called them pricey as I don't have the facts on cost
but that's just my perception.

Best to you all,

Tim
Land of OZ

Show quoted text

On 15/05/2015 02:49, Arved Grass arved_grass@... [SergentEng] wrote:
You have it precisely 180 degrees backward. :-) They're made by North
American Railcar Corporation, and sold exclusively by Pacific Western
Rail Systems. $34.95 (give or take depending on US/Canadian exchange
rate) for 10 pair.

About 20 years ago, there was an article in (I believe) Railmodel
Journal. It wasn't specifically about modeling magnetic air hoses, but
had a caption in one of the photos that the modeler used cut up bits of
refrigerator magnets as glad hands for his models. The thinnest
(business card type) refrigerator magnets I've seen is 12 mil.

That may be another option. Look at the refrigerator magnet your pizza
guy gave you. I bet you cold make a whole lot of glad hands for zero
dollars investment!

Arved Grass

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Mike Conder

#783

For me it's the time involved ... RTR leverages my time to do other things (like assemble couplers!)

Mike Conder

Show quoted text

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Nathan Rich thaddeusthudpucker@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Just because something is commercially available does not mean that one cannot make their own, isn't this the exact thing a lot of modelers bemoan?

Nathan Rich

On Thursday, May 14, 2015, Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Hi-Tech may not be, Pacific Western Rail is the right one. Kinda neat ...

Mike Conder

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Nathan Rich <thaddeusthudpucker@...>

#782

Just because something is commercially available does not mean that one cannot make their own, isn't this the exact thing a lot of modelers bemoan?

Nathan Rich

Show quoted text

On Thursday, May 14, 2015, Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Hi-Tech may not be, Pacific Western Rail is the right one. Kinda neat ...

Mike Conder

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Mike Conder

#781

Hi-Tech may not be, Pacific Western Rail is the right one. Kinda neat ...

Mike Conder

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Peter Burr <pburr47@...>

#780

www.pacific-western-rail.com

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Richard Bell <katmedia@...>

#779

Just visited their web site and there was nothing about magnetic air hoses with glad hands. All their air hoses were just molded in a flexible plastic and look really nice. No mention of being magnetic in any of the scales they offer. Is this the correct company you mentioned???

Rick

Show quoted text

From: mailto:SergentEng@...

Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:59 AM

To: SergentEng@...

Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Hi Tech Details makes them w/ magnetic glad hands: http://www.hitechdetails.com/AAR_Hoses.html

Andy Jackson

Bellflower CA

Andy Jackson
Bellflower CA

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Arved Grass arved_grass@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

You have it precisely 180 degrees backward. :-) They're made by North American Railcar Corporation, and sold exclusively by Pacific Western Rail Systems. $34.95 (give or take depending on US/Canadian exchange rate) for 10 pair.

About 20 years ago, there was an article in (I believe) Railmodel Journal. It wasn't specifically about modeling magnetic air hoses, but had a caption in one of the photos that the modeler used cut up bits of refrigerator magnets as glad hands for his models. The thinnest (business card type) refrigerator magnets I've seen is 12 mil.

That may be another option. Look at the refrigerator magnet your pizza guy gave you. I bet you cold make a whole lot of glad hands for zero dollars investment!

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 5/14/15, TS egroupstuff@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Coupler
To: SergentEng@...
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 12:35 PM

Magnalock brake lines, by Pacific Western Rail
Systems is who does them

(sold by NARcorp now I think).

Nice, but pricy for what they are (read how much work you
have to do).

For the cost of magnets and thin rubber hose you can
probably do

cheaper than the PWRS ones.

I have also read that they are possibly a little on the
strong side,

with a user stating one needs to give a bit of a hand
restraining

the wagons so they'll part properly. Mind you this is
small 4 wheel

stock he was using them on.

Cheers,

Tim

Land of OZ

On 15/05/2015 01:55, Mike Conder vulturenest1@...
[SergentEng] wrote:

> Somebody already makes rubber air hoses with magnetic
glad hands in HO

> scale, but I do not remember the company name. I saw
it in that

> electronic magazine, Model Railroad Hobbyist.

>

>

> Mike Conder

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Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Andy Jackson

#778

Hi Tech Details makes them w/ magnetic glad hands: http://www.hitechdetails.com/AAR_Hoses.html

Andy Jackson

Bellflower CA

Andy Jackson
Bellflower CA

Show quoted text

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Arved Grass arved_grass@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

You have it precisely 180 degrees backward. :-) They're made by North American Railcar Corporation, and sold exclusively by Pacific Western Rail Systems. $34.95 (give or take depending on US/Canadian exchange rate) for 10 pair.

About 20 years ago, there was an article in (I believe) Railmodel Journal. It wasn't specifically about modeling magnetic air hoses, but had a caption in one of the photos that the modeler used cut up bits of refrigerator magnets as glad hands for his models. The thinnest (business card type) refrigerator magnets I've seen is 12 mil.

That may be another option. Look at the refrigerator magnet your pizza guy gave you. I bet you cold make a whole lot of glad hands for zero dollars investment!

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 5/14/15, TS egroupstuff@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Coupler
To: SergentEng@...
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 12:35 PM

Magnalock brake lines, by Pacific Western Rail
Systems is who does them

(sold by NARcorp now I think).

Nice, but pricy for what they are (read how much work you
have to do).

For the cost of magnets and thin rubber hose you can
probably do

cheaper than the PWRS ones.

I have also read that they are possibly a little on the
strong side,

with a user stating one needs to give a bit of a hand
restraining

the wagons so they'll part properly. Mind you this is
small 4 wheel

stock he was using them on.

Cheers,

Tim

Land of OZ

On 15/05/2015 01:55, Mike Conder vulturenest1@...
[SergentEng] wrote:

> Somebody already makes rubber air hoses with magnetic
glad hands in HO

> scale, but I do not remember the company name. I saw
it in that

> electronic magazine, Model Railroad Hobbyist.

>

>

> Mike Conder

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Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Mike Conder

#777

That is the the company, thanks.

But US$3.50 per car (plus shipping) doesn't seem like a lot, and installation doesn't seem too onerous? $35 for 10 pair, plus shipping. But I can see shipping to Oz may make the price uncomfortable.

Mike Conder

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On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:35 AM, TS egroupstuff@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Magnalock brake lines, by Pacific Western Rail Systems is who does them
(sold by NARcorp now I think).

Nice, but pricy for what they are (read how much work you have to do).

For the cost of magnets and thin rubber hose you can probably do
cheaper than the PWRS ones.

I have also read that they are possibly a little on the strong side,
with a user stating one needs to give a bit of a hand restraining
the wagons so they'll part properly. Mind you this is small 4 wheel
stock he was using them on.

Cheers,

Tim
Land of OZ

On 15/05/2015 01:55, Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng] wrote:
> Somebody already makes rubber air hoses with magnetic glad hands in HO
> scale, but I do not remember the company name. I saw it in that
> electronic magazine, Model Railroad Hobbyist.
>
>
> Mike Conder

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

arved_grass

#776

You have it precisely 180 degrees backward. :-) They're made by North American Railcar Corporation, and sold exclusively by Pacific Western Rail Systems. $34.95 (give or take depending on US/Canadian exchange rate) for 10 pair.

About 20 years ago, there was an article in (I believe) Railmodel Journal. It wasn't specifically about modeling magnetic air hoses, but had a caption in one of the photos that the modeler used cut up bits of refrigerator magnets as glad hands for his models. The thinnest (business card type) refrigerator magnets I've seen is 12 mil.

That may be another option. Look at the refrigerator magnet your pizza guy gave you. I bet you cold make a whole lot of glad hands for zero dollars investment!

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Thu, 5/14/15, TS egroupstuff@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Coupler
 To: SergentEng@...
 Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 12:35 PM


  









       Magnalock brake lines, by Pacific Western Rail
 Systems is who does them

 (sold by NARcorp now I think).



 Nice, but pricy for what they are (read how much work you
 have to do).



 For the cost of magnets and thin rubber hose you can
 probably do

 cheaper than the PWRS ones.



 I have also read that they are possibly a little on the
 strong side,

 with a user stating one needs to give a bit of a hand
 restraining

 the wagons so they'll part properly. Mind you this is
 small 4 wheel

 stock he was using them on.



 Cheers,



 Tim

 Land of OZ



 On 15/05/2015 01:55, Mike Conder vulturenest1@...
 [SergentEng] wrote:

 > Somebody already makes rubber air hoses with magnetic
 glad hands in HO

 > scale, but I do not remember the company name.   I saw
 it in that

 > electronic magazine, Model Railroad Hobbyist.

 >

 >

 > Mike Conder













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Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Tim L

#775

Magnalock brake lines, by Pacific Western Rail Systems is who does them
(sold by NARcorp now I think).

Nice, but pricy for what they are (read how much work you have to do).

For the cost of magnets and thin rubber hose you can probably do
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I have also read that they are possibly a little on the strong side,
with a user stating one needs to give a bit of a hand restraining
the wagons so they'll part properly. Mind you this is small 4 wheel
stock he was using them on.

Cheers,

Tim
Land of OZ

Show quoted text

On 15/05/2015 01:55, Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng] wrote:
Somebody already makes rubber air hoses with magnetic glad hands in HO
scale, but I do not remember the company name.   I saw it in that
electronic magazine, Model Railroad Hobbyist.


Mike Conder

Re: [SergentEng] Coupler

Mike Conder

#774

Somebody already makes rubber air hoses with magnetic glad hands in HO scale, but I do not remember the company name. I saw it in that electronic magazine, Model Railroad Hobbyist.

Mike Conder