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Re: Couplers for sale

Mike Conder
 

I’ll throw my hat in the ring if the others fall through.  I need a bunch more of these. 

Mike Conder

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 10:02 PM John via groups.io <conrailyardmaster=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
John:

Still in the game. Awaiting reply. 


On Aug 5, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John via groups.io <conrailyardmaster=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I am interested/good for it. Contact me at my email. Conrailyardmaster@...


On Aug 5, 2022, at 6:10 PM, John Larkin via groups.io <jflarkingrc=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


Moving from HO to O and I uncovered a package of EN87KB couplers.  I came with 144 couplers and 95% or more are still there.  I'd like to sell the majority remainder of these (estimate 125-135+) and asking $80 for the bunch plus $10 toward shipping (USA only I better add!).  I bought a Steam Loco Pocket & Coupler with these ($16) and IF I can find it I'll throw it in.  Too much stuff, too little space, too little time!

Cash or checks are fine.

John Larkin
  

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Mike Conder


Re: Couplers for sale

John
 

Ok. Will call tomorrow for particulars. Where to send check etc. 

You nailed it. 43 years on Conrail, mostly as Yardmaster. and how about that for for an email address. Tell me what time for telephonic communication. 

Thanks. 


On Aug 6, 2022, at 12:12 AM, John Larkin via groups.io <jflarkingrc@...> wrote:


They are still available, couple inquiries but no takers prior to your email, so they are yours.  I can take cash or checks without any problems.  Will need your address and I'll get them ready to go.  I think these are easily the best option for HO but I've been switching to O scale due to size and my ability to see details much better.  Biggest problem with O is trying to figure out exactly what you're getting, somewhat of a challenge if you're into high accuracy - plus it does take some space!

I'm getting ready to sell most of my HO stuff, brass steam, cars, etc., plus some trackwork.  If you have any specific or preferred interests let me know.  Most of it is medium to high end. fair selection of brass steamers, a few oddball diesels I picked up in some sales, etc.  I'm trying to get some time to get everything listed, seems to take forever just to round it up and we're still completing a few home projects.  I built the house over 4 years and it's quite a project to get every last detail finalized even now.  I haven't done much of anything except some final track for the live steam (7.5" gauge) and fixing the boiler on a steamer.  Now we're looking to move from Nebraska, damn  taxes are in the worst 5 in the country and my wife is thinking of retiring so...

I assume you were ex-Conrail.  I had almost 10 years with UP, operations, HQs, then wound up with 2 shortlines.  By being the boss I could get tor run the engines!.......

You can call me at 712-574-9800 if you have questions.

Thanks,

John Larkin  


On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 07:12:38 PM CDT, John via groups.io <conrailyardmaster@...> wrote:


I am interested/good for it. Contact me at my email. Conrailyardmaster@.... 


On Aug 5, 2022, at 6:10 PM, John Larkin via groups.io <jflarkingrc@...> wrote:


Moving from HO to O and I uncovered a package of EN87KB couplers.  I came with 144 couplers and 95% or more are still there.  I'd like to sell the majority remainder of these (estimate 125-135+) and asking $80 for the bunch plus $10 toward shipping (USA only I better add!).  I bought a Steam Loco Pocket & Coupler with these ($16) and IF I can find it I'll throw it in.  Too much stuff, too little space, too little time!

Cash or checks are fine.

John Larkin
  


Re: Couplers for sale

John Larkin
 

They are still available, couple inquiries but no takers prior to your email, so they are yours.  I can take cash or checks without any problems.  Will need your address and I'll get them ready to go.  I think these are easily the best option for HO but I've been switching to O scale due to size and my ability to see details much better.  Biggest problem with O is trying to figure out exactly what you're getting, somewhat of a challenge if you're into high accuracy - plus it does take some space!

I'm getting ready to sell most of my HO stuff, brass steam, cars, etc., plus some trackwork.  If you have any specific or preferred interests let me know.  Most of it is medium to high end. fair selection of brass steamers, a few oddball diesels I picked up in some sales, etc.  I'm trying to get some time to get everything listed, seems to take forever just to round it up and we're still completing a few home projects.  I built the house over 4 years and it's quite a project to get every last detail finalized even now.  I haven't done much of anything except some final track for the live steam (7.5" gauge) and fixing the boiler on a steamer.  Now we're looking to move from Nebraska, damn  taxes are in the worst 5 in the country and my wife is thinking of retiring so...

I assume you were ex-Conrail.  I had almost 10 years with UP, operations, HQs, then wound up with 2 shortlines.  By being the boss I could get tor run the engines!.......

You can call me at 712-574-9800 if you have questions.

Thanks,

John Larkin  


On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 07:12:38 PM CDT, John via groups.io <conrailyardmaster@...> wrote:


I am interested/good for it. Contact me at my email. Conrailyardmaster@.... 


On Aug 5, 2022, at 6:10 PM, John Larkin via groups.io <jflarkingrc@...> wrote:


Moving from HO to O and I uncovered a package of EN87KB couplers.  I came with 144 couplers and 95% or more are still there.  I'd like to sell the majority remainder of these (estimate 125-135+) and asking $80 for the bunch plus $10 toward shipping (USA only I better add!).  I bought a Steam Loco Pocket & Coupler with these ($16) and IF I can find it I'll throw it in.  Too much stuff, too little space, too little time!

Cash or checks are fine.

John Larkin
  


Re: Couplers for sale

John
 

John:

Still in the game. Awaiting reply. 


On Aug 5, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John via groups.io <conrailyardmaster@...> wrote:

I am interested/good for it. Contact me at my email. Conrailyardmaster@.... 


On Aug 5, 2022, at 6:10 PM, John Larkin via groups.io <jflarkingrc@...> wrote:


Moving from HO to O and I uncovered a package of EN87KB couplers.  I came with 144 couplers and 95% or more are still there.  I'd like to sell the majority remainder of these (estimate 125-135+) and asking $80 for the bunch plus $10 toward shipping (USA only I better add!).  I bought a Steam Loco Pocket & Coupler with these ($16) and IF I can find it I'll throw it in.  Too much stuff, too little space, too little time!

Cash or checks are fine.

John Larkin
  


Re: Couplers for sale

John
 

I am interested/good for it. Contact me at my email. Conrailyardmaster@.... 


On Aug 5, 2022, at 6:10 PM, John Larkin via groups.io <jflarkingrc@...> wrote:


Moving from HO to O and I uncovered a package of EN87KB couplers.  I came with 144 couplers and 95% or more are still there.  I'd like to sell the majority remainder of these (estimate 125-135+) and asking $80 for the bunch plus $10 toward shipping (USA only I better add!).  I bought a Steam Loco Pocket & Coupler with these ($16) and IF I can find it I'll throw it in.  Too much stuff, too little space, too little time!

Cash or checks are fine.

John Larkin
  


Re: Couplers for sale

John Larkin
 

Todd,

Damn near anything but Paypal!  Sorry.

John

On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 06:55:38 PM CDT, Todd Fisher <tftrainman1@...> wrote:


John can you take Paypal if so I'll take them 


On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, 6:10 PM John Larkin via groups.io <jflarkingrc=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Moving from HO to O and I uncovered a package of EN87KB couplers.  I came with 144 couplers and 95% or more are still there.  I'd like to sell the majority remainder of these (estimate 125-135+) and asking $80 for the bunch plus $10 toward shipping (USA only I better add!).  I bought a Steam Loco Pocket & Coupler with these ($16) and IF I can find it I'll throw it in.  Too much stuff, too little space, too little time!

Cash or checks are fine.

John Larkin
  


Re: Couplers for sale

Todd Fisher
 

John can you take Paypal if so I'll take them 


On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, 6:10 PM John Larkin via groups.io <jflarkingrc=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Moving from HO to O and I uncovered a package of EN87KB couplers.  I came with 144 couplers and 95% or more are still there.  I'd like to sell the majority remainder of these (estimate 125-135+) and asking $80 for the bunch plus $10 toward shipping (USA only I better add!).  I bought a Steam Loco Pocket & Coupler with these ($16) and IF I can find it I'll throw it in.  Too much stuff, too little space, too little time!

Cash or checks are fine.

John Larkin
  


Couplers for sale

John Larkin
 

Moving from HO to O and I uncovered a package of EN87KB couplers.  I came with 144 couplers and 95% or more are still there.  I'd like to sell the majority remainder of these (estimate 125-135+) and asking $80 for the bunch plus $10 toward shipping (USA only I better add!).  I bought a Steam Loco Pocket & Coupler with these ($16) and IF I can find it I'll throw it in.  Too much stuff, too little space, too little time!

Cash or checks are fine.

John Larkin
  


Re: Castings!

Cyrus Gillespie
 

Can't wait to see these in production!


S scale, when?

Alex Huff
 

Chris,

I read your earlier e-mail that this was on your to-do list.  Do you have any time frame for these?  I will buy 50 pair.


Re: Problem with SE87K - knuckles falling out

 

Hey Scott- forgive me if I am late to the party on this but one thing I didn't read was test fitting to make sure everything goes together before gluing. 

There is some flashing left on the couplers as they are made. I have found that the holes need cleaned out. I have found that test fitting the couplers before gluing would be a good indication of whether or not glued, they will work properly. 

I have had the same issues before where the top and bottom sections are not seating properly, causing the knuckle to fall out/off. Everything on the top and bottom sides should be flush together, no light visible while in the fixture. I check this by putting a clothes pin on the fixture with the coupler still on it to make sure it is seated properly. 

Before gluing, I carefully remove the coupler from the fixture and check the function on the knuck (open/close) without the ball to make sure it moves properly. I then repeat the process to make with the ball in place it operates the same. Again...all of this before gluing. I will test/prep a few couplers at a time before gluing. 

Once everything is woeking properly without glue, I then move into the glue phase. I use the assembly jig to glue parts. The only spots that get glue are the pin that slips into the main part of the coupler...very little...and at the back where it is far from the ball. I use a gel CA because of the control in placement of the glue. 

I have tried to post photos here but can not for some reason. I hope it helps, but if you have questions, let me know.

-C. Fane


Re: Problem with SE87K - knuckles falling out

JC Sherwood
 

I experienced the same issue and wound up throwing a half dozen couplers away.  I love the look of the Sergents, but I wound up using dummy couplers on my latest builds.  I'm not much for operation anyway, just a builder.


On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 4:43 PM Scott Walton <jscottwalton@...> wrote:
I’ve assembled some more and paid a great deal of attention to the process. Some of my problem might have been due to my process — I found that once I removed the assembly from the fixture before the knuckle was correctly seated and that the “top” didn’t fully seat. After that I was very careful to completely seat the knuckle.

I did find that several knuckles just didn’t quite fit correctly and that the resulting coupler displayed exactly that problem (the coupler looked okay, operated correctly once or twice but then fell out).

Frank had attached a note that he had included some extra parts as some of parts would assemble okay, but just wouldn’t operate.  I didn’t understand the problem at first, but now I believe I understand the issue.d

The difficulty is that I don’t SEE a difference between a bad knuckle and a good done, I can only tell by assembling a coupler and then testing it — with a bad knuckle the knuckle may fail to close and when it should close and lock, it appears to be slightly loose, but won’t close.

Scott Walton
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Scott Walton


Re: Problem with SE87K - knuckles falling out

Bryian Sones
 

Hello Scott, 

Here is a few things that I do and look for that might help.

Attention to the Knuckle:
  • Bad knucks: will usually have extra flashing on the wing (triangular part) part. This extra flashing will prevent the knuckle from seating properly in the knuckle case and will also cause binding. The flashing is found on the edge tip of the wing. The edge will appear longer than it should be, and it will not appear rounded off and smooth as it should be. You can correct the bad part with some success by filing the flashing down and shaping it to match a good knuckle wing. A good way to tell if you are going to have a binding issue is to... Set the knuckle into the main case while it is mounted in the fixture. Properly seated, the knuckle will be in its closed position. look at the edge of the wing that is closest to the lower cavity wall near the bearing (ball) hole. There should always be a slight gap between the wing edge and the low cavity wall. If the tip of the wing is touching the wall or extends past the lower cavity edge it is a bad one. It probably has flashing on it that needs to be filed.
  • Knuckle Hing: I clear all paint from this area on the male side of the top and bottom hinge points. Also clear any paint that may have gotten into the female hinge part of the knuckle. I lube the hinge areas with a graphite pencil. I also hit the ball bearing hole with the pencil, both sides of the knuckle wing and cavity walls.
  • Gluing: I follow the glue point method that Frank S. suggests for assembly. In addition to that I use a medium viscosity glue and dribble in a small amount around the couplet lid after assembly. You apply the glue around the coupler head seams. Do not get glue in the hinge. You do not need to do this to the coupler shank seam. That's up to you but I see no point in that. Applying small amounts of glue to the coupler-head seams will add additional strength to the casing and prevent it from separating under stress from heavy loads. The coupler case may sometimes separate if you pull very long trains f you do not do this. I was using Loctite for my main adhesive but now I use Cypox. It doesn't get brittle over time. like most ca glue. It's expensive but it works extremely well.  Cypox Bonder 101- 2oz. | Cypox Bonding System 
  • Clamping: I wouldn't use pliers on the couple case at all. It can cause cracks or deforms in the casing. Some of the investment castings could be easily broken. You shouldn't need that much pressure to close and clamp the coupler case. If you are experiencing the need for this, then you should inspect the coupler for alignment before attempting to seal the case permanently. Light hand pressure should be enough. I use metal alligator clamps to hold while drying. You can buy them by the dozens cheap. Make sure you burnish the Pin hole with a tooth-pick. That may help with your assembly and clamping.

I hope you found some of this useful?                   

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA


On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 02:43:58 PM PDT, Scott Walton <jscottwalton@...> wrote:


I’ve assembled some more and paid a great deal of attention to the process. Some of my problem might have been due to my process — I found that once I removed the assembly from the fixture before the knuckle was correctly seated and that the “top” didn’t fully seat. After that I was very careful to completely seat the knuckle.

I did find that several knuckles just didn’t quite fit correctly and that the resulting coupler displayed exactly that problem (the coupler looked okay, operated correctly once or twice but then fell out).

Frank had attached a note that he had included some extra parts as some of parts would assemble okay, but just wouldn’t operate.  I didn’t understand the problem at first, but now I believe I understand the issue.d

The difficulty is that I don’t SEE a difference between a bad knuckle and a good done, I can only tell by assembling a coupler and then testing it — with a bad knuckle the knuckle may fail to close and when it should close and lock, it appears to be slightly loose, but won’t close.

Scott Walton
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Scott Walton


Re: Problem with SE87K - knuckles falling out

Scott Walton
 

I’ve assembled some more and paid a great deal of attention to the process. Some of my problem might have been due to my process — I found that once I removed the assembly from the fixture before the knuckle was correctly seated and that the “top” didn’t fully seat. After that I was very careful to completely seat the knuckle.

I did find that several knuckles just didn’t quite fit correctly and that the resulting coupler displayed exactly that problem (the coupler looked okay, operated correctly once or twice but then fell out).

Frank had attached a note that he had included some extra parts as some of parts would assemble okay, but just wouldn’t operate.  I didn’t understand the problem at first, but now I believe I understand the issue.d

The difficulty is that I don’t SEE a difference between a bad knuckle and a good done, I can only tell by assembling a coupler and then testing it — with a bad knuckle the knuckle may fail to close and when it should close and lock, it appears to be slightly loose, but won’t close.

Scott Walton
--
Scott Walton


Re: Problem with SE87K - knuckles falling out

Edward Sutorik
 

I feel a bit wary of that phrase "...clamp  hard with pliers..."

Seems to me that might be distorting things.  MIGHT.

When I assemble my couplers, I press gently down on the "top piece" with a toothpick (while the parts are in the assembly fixture), add some runny ACC to the rear of that piece, and wait for it to set up.  Done. 

And I haven't had any knuckles come out of the coupler body yet.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Problem with SE87K - knuckles falling out

Steve Wintner
 

I've  not had this issue, and I haven't done this recently, but if i recall some of mine had a small mark from an ejection pin on the flat where the upper and lower coupler halves join. Did you file that flush ? Similarly, is there any burr or flash on the knuckle that prevents it going together?

Steve


Problem with SE87K - knuckles falling out

Scott Walton
 

I have been assembling these from a bulk order. I'm finding many (some 75%) of the knuckles are falling out. The first symptom is that the cars won't couple up -- the ball won't drop. Then the knuckle won't close and finally falls out. Always the connection is at the top of the knuckle. Either I have an assembly problem, or the top pin is too short, or the top hole in the knuckle is too shallow.

My assembly process is to assemble in the jig, with a  TINY bit of thick CA, then, as soon as I remove the coupler from the jig, clamp hard with pliers to insure that the two couplers halves are securly together. After a waiting period I test every coupler by coupling and uncoupling a pair together, inverting and uncoupling, then turning them right-side-up and coupling again. I did another order of 144 without this problem and so I THINK I'm doing it correctly.

Has anyone else had a similar problem, and does anyone have a suggestion as to how to alleviate the problem? Right now I can't seem to assemble enough couplers to equip the last batch of cars I purchased.

Scott Walton


Re: Inventive Models Couplers

Mike Van Hove
 

The (15) EC87A Couplers are sold.

Thanks for your interest.

Mike Van Hove

On Jun 10, 2022, at 5:43 PM, Mike Van Hove via groups.io <vanhovem22@...> wrote:

Please excuse my typo it’(3) in the opened package, not “30” as I stupidly typed. 🤪

Sorry,
Mike

On Jun 10, 2022, at 5:40 PM, Mike Van Hove via groups.io <vanhovem22@...> wrote:

Paul, I know you said you needed a hundred, but all I have is (15)
What I have are the EC87A HO Scale Couplers.  They are fully assembled and painted, from Sergent.
He no longer sells them assembled and painted.
They are in packs of (4), except for (1) which has only (30 Couplers.  I used one for a Loco Pilot.
The (3) full packs are new, un=opened and ready to install.
I’m now in HOn3 and clearing out HO Standard stuff.
I’ll sell the (15)  for $20.00, and I’ll pay the shipping.  In the Continental USA.

See the photos, below<IMG_3569.JPG><IMG_3568.JPG>

Mike Van Hove

Cell:  573-999-1610
On Jun 5, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Paul Dallard via groups.io <shield1751@...> wrote:

I need about a hundred!



On May 21, 2022, at 5:32 PM, Rahl Smith via groups.io <blackaerocoupe@...> wrote:

Thanks David for relaying the ordering information to Christian.
I think there are several styles of couplers that are current out of stock at the moment.

I think Eric only made a limited number of each style for now so that they can get out in real applications to be tested and reviewed.
The feedback from them will help him decide on demand and any operational corrections that may be needed.

Anybody that knows about Sergeant couplers but never got an order in for the ones Frank stopped making has been waiting for a long time for another supplier/manufacturer to come along to fill their need(s).
He will offer color matched couplers eventually.
So if you like what you see or you're interested just keep supporting Eric and letting him know that he is doing a good job!
He has been very forthcoming and visible around these forums and in my opinion has created a product that's exactly as he stated and represented it.

Also check Facebook under Inventive Models, there is a lot more information there on his couplers. (This is his Facebook page) <1390581510.1653167757625.jpeg><680588608.1653167767500.jpeg><174813407.1653168745237.jpeg><258550700.1653168757572.jpeg>





Re: Inventive Models Couplers

Mike Van Hove
 

Please excuse my typo it’(3) in the opened package, not “30” as I stupidly typed. 🤪

Sorry,
Mike

On Jun 10, 2022, at 5:40 PM, Mike Van Hove via groups.io <vanhovem22@...> wrote:

Paul, I know you said you needed a hundred, but all I have is (15)
What I have are the EC87A HO Scale Couplers.  They are fully assembled and painted, from Sergent.
He no longer sells them assembled and painted.
They are in packs of (4), except for (1) which has only (30 Couplers.  I used one for a Loco Pilot.
The (3) full packs are new, un=opened and ready to install.
I’m now in HOn3 and clearing out HO Standard stuff.
I’ll sell the (15)  for $20.00, and I’ll pay the shipping.  In the Continental USA.

See the photos, below<IMG_3569.JPG><IMG_3568.JPG>

Mike Van Hove

Cell:  573-999-1610
On Jun 5, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Paul Dallard via groups.io <shield1751@...> wrote:

I need about a hundred!



On May 21, 2022, at 5:32 PM, Rahl Smith via groups.io <blackaerocoupe@...> wrote:

Thanks David for relaying the ordering information to Christian.
I think there are several styles of couplers that are current out of stock at the moment.

I think Eric only made a limited number of each style for now so that they can get out in real applications to be tested and reviewed.
The feedback from them will help him decide on demand and any operational corrections that may be needed.

Anybody that knows about Sergeant couplers but never got an order in for the ones Frank stopped making has been waiting for a long time for another supplier/manufacturer to come along to fill their need(s).
He will offer color matched couplers eventually.
So if you like what you see or you're interested just keep supporting Eric and letting him know that he is doing a good job!
He has been very forthcoming and visible around these forums and in my opinion has created a product that's exactly as he stated and represented it.

Also check Facebook under Inventive Models, there is a lot more information there on his couplers. (This is his Facebook page) <1390581510.1653167757625.jpeg><680588608.1653167767500.jpeg><174813407.1653168745237.jpeg><258550700.1653168757572.jpeg>




Re: Inventive Models Couplers

Mike Van Hove
 

Paul, I know you said you needed a hundred, but all I have is (15)
What I have are the EC87A HO Scale Couplers.  They are fully assembled and painted, from Sergent.
He no longer sells them assembled and painted.
They are in packs of (4), except for (1) which has only (30 Couplers.  I used one for a Loco Pilot.
The (3) full packs are new, un=opened and ready to install.
I’m now in HOn3 and clearing out HO Standard stuff.
I’ll sell the (15)  for $20.00, and I’ll pay the shipping.  In the Continental USA.

See the photos, below

Mike Van Hove

Cell:  573-999-1610

On Jun 5, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Paul Dallard via groups.io <shield1751@...> wrote:

I need about a hundred!



On May 21, 2022, at 5:32 PM, Rahl Smith via groups.io <blackaerocoupe@...> wrote:

Thanks David for relaying the ordering information to Christian.
I think there are several styles of couplers that are current out of stock at the moment.

I think Eric only made a limited number of each style for now so that they can get out in real applications to be tested and reviewed.
The feedback from them will help him decide on demand and any operational corrections that may be needed.

Anybody that knows about Sergeant couplers but never got an order in for the ones Frank stopped making has been waiting for a long time for another supplier/manufacturer to come along to fill their need(s).
He will offer color matched couplers eventually.
So if you like what you see or you're interested just keep supporting Eric and letting him know that he is doing a good job!
He has been very forthcoming and visible around these forums and in my opinion has created a product that's exactly as he stated and represented it.

Also check Facebook under Inventive Models, there is a lot more information there on his couplers. (This is his Facebook page) <1390581510.1653167757625.jpeg><680588608.1653167767500.jpeg><174813407.1653168745237.jpeg><258550700.1653168757572.jpeg>


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