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Re: Shelf coupler operation

Tim L
 

Yes, just ask me about the three damaged cars I now have when I accidentally knocked one of them over and the couplers took the other two cars with it to the floor!

Serious now (that knock over did happen though), if the shelf couplers on two vehicles are in the same plane, ie, both horizontal then yes the shelves prevent vertical separation but in some cases, just like on the prototype if one coupler is at a significant angle to the other (eg, one horizontal and it's mate is say 10 degrees from horizontal) then vertical separation could occur as the angle means the knuckle may not hit the shelf. I think you'd require pretty shoddy vertical curves for that to be an issue for you.

I once ran a test where I pulled a wagon from flat to a very serious angle without the following wagon uncoupling from it. They weren't really long wagons mind you.

- Tim

On 15/07/2018 00:17, Stephen Henderson wrote:
I am looking to possibly buy some shelf couplers and was wonder how well they work?  Do they make it so the couplers don't slide apart on uneven track or with long cars?
Stephen

Re: Shelf coupler operation

Alan Hummel
 




Stephen,

I have shelf couplers with the single shelf,(SBE), as well as double shelf,(SE),and they work just like the prototype couplers. They won't slide apart and will work on let's call it, "troubled track," though I try to keep my track as level as possible.

Long cars I haven't tried any on yet. I think on 72ft centerbeams and other longer cars,I'd use the SBE couplers with the extended shank.

Al Hummel

On Saturday, July 14, 2018, 10:17:59 AM EDT, Stephen Henderson <slx1f@...> wrote:


I am looking to possibly buy some shelf couplers and was wonder how well they work?  Do they make it so the couplers don't slide apart on uneven track or with long cars? 

Stephen

Coupler boxes for Sergent with centering option

Jim King <jimking3@...>
 

Recent centering discussion prompted me to post a note reminding y’all that I produce coupler boxes to fit Sergent (wide and narrow shank) which allow for centering using his friction spring.  Available in 3 colors.  8 car’s worth of parts for just $19 + postage.

 

http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com/HO_draft_gear+cplrs.html

 

Jim King

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

 


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Jim King
www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

Re: Leaving out the friction springs

Edward Sutorik
 

Thanks for your responses, folks.

It's not slack action I'm concerned with.  Well, in a way, it is.  THAT is one of the reasons I've been installing Sergent couplers--there isn't any (to speak of).

No.  It's only because it can be a REAL pain to assemble the "coupler box" in some cars.  Especially when you have stick a little coil spring in there and somehow hold an assortment of pieces in a special position, slide it in............

Oh, yes.  I'm talking about the "compatible" shank.  I haven't even thought about the other.  Yet.

Again, thanks.  I will continue to put the springs in where it's easy.  Where it isn't, I'll leave them out.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Dummy couplers gone?

Edward Sutorik
 

Several months ago, it was announced that the Glatzl dummy couplers would no longer be carried by Sergent, but that there were plenty left.  I wanted to add some to my order, and can't find them on the site.

Are they really gone?

If so, is there a way to get more from someone else?


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Re: pending membership in the SergentEngineering@groups.io group

Markus Nee
 


Hello,

I've been an avid model railroader for about 30 years now, and specialize in HO super-detailed locomotives and rolling stock. I'm in the process of converting my fleet to semi-scale, using Sergent couplers and code 88 wheels. I've been very impressed with Sergent couplers (especially with how well the Type H tightlock couplers work on my push-pull commuter trains when shoving at speed), and am glad to find this community where we can talk about them.

Markus

Re: pending membership in the SergentEngineering@groups.io group

Michael Wentzel
 

Welcome Markus!


On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 4:45 PM Markus Nee <markusnee@...> wrote:

Hello,

I've been an avid model railroader for about 30 years now, and specialize in HO super-detailed locomotives and rolling stock. I'm in the process of converting my fleet to semi-scale, using Sergent couplers and code 88 wheels. I've been very impressed with Sergent couplers (especially with how well the Type H tightlock couplers work on my push-pull commuter trains when shoving at speed), and am glad to find this community where we can talk about them.

Markus

joining group

treydollarbill@...
 

I am an old time h o gauge model train owner.  I would like very much to become a member of your group.  Thanks

Frank Sergent

Christopher Zurek
 

Hello all,

Has anyone heard from Frank lately? I sent an email a week ago to him from my Gmail account asking about stock availability on the FC87M040K couplers. I did so because I want to order enough for all my UFIX Bathtubs and Coalveyors.

I used both addresses I have but I haven't heard back.

Chris Z.

Re: Frank Sergent

Frank Sergent
 

Here I am! I couldn’t find any emails from you lately. Maybe my IT department lost them.
 
Anyway, I have 7 packs of the FC87M040K in stock. Making more may take a month or so while I work the kinks out of a new printer.
 
Thanks,
Frank
 

Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 3:01 PM
Subject: [Sergent Engineering] Frank Sergent
 

Hello all,

Has anyone heard from Frank lately? I sent an email a week ago to him from my Gmail account asking about stock availability on the FC87M040K couplers. I did so because I want to order enough for all my UFIX Bathtubs and Coalveyors.

I used both addresses I have but I haven't heard back.

Chris Z.

Re: Frank Sergent

Christopher Zurek
 

Hi Frank,

I'll reply this way since I can't get an email through. Maybe Gmail is being blocked and I should try from this account.

Anyway, I'll take the 7 packs of FC87M040K is you still have them. There are some other things I need also so I'll put an order together soon.

Chris Z.


On 8/31/2018 7:24 PM, Frank Sergent wrote:
Here I am! I couldn’t find any emails from you lately. Maybe my IT department lost them.
 
Anyway, I have 7 packs of the FC87M040K in stock. Making more may take a month or so while I work the kinks out of a new printer.
 
Thanks,
Frank
 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 3:01 PM
Subject: [Sergent Engineering] Frank Sergent
 

Hello all,

Has anyone heard from Frank lately? I sent an email a week ago to him from my Gmail account asking about stock availability on the FC87M040K couplers. I did so because I want to order enough for all my UFIX Bathtubs and Coalveyors.

I used both addresses I have but I haven't heard back.

Chris Z.


Coupler Knuckles

Randall Vos
 

Hi all, I've been working on some Wisconsin Central GP38-2s lately, and a thought popped up. these engines have spare knuckle holders installed, and I was thinking of using Sergent knuckles as details.  Was wondering if Frank ever thought about selling just knuckles in packages of about a dozen or so as details. I'd hate to cannibalize knuckles from working couplers as details.

Thanks,

Randy 

Re: Coupler Knuckles

Artur Pawlowski
 

Athearn sells the knuckles with the bracket for the back of the pilot. But you have to order over the phone.




On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:15, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979@...> wrote:

Hi all, I've been working on some Wisconsin Central GP38-2s lately, and a thought popped up. these engines have spare knuckle holders installed, and I was thinking of using Sergent knuckles as details.  Was wondering if Frank ever thought about selling just knuckles in packages of about a dozen or so as details. I'd hate to cannibalize knuckles from working couplers as details.

Thanks,

Randy 

Re: Coupler Knuckles

 

But are the Athearn knuckles to scale like the Sergent ones are?
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA




On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 8:21 AM Artur Pawlowski via Groups.Io <artur_pawlowski37=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Athearn sells the knuckles with the bracket for the back of the pilot. But you have to order over the phone.




On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:15, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all, I've been working on some Wisconsin Central GP38-2s lately, and a thought popped up. these engines have spare knuckle holders installed, and I was thinking of using Sergent knuckles as details.  Was wondering if Frank ever thought about selling just knuckles in packages of about a dozen or so as details. I'd hate to cannibalize knuckles from working couplers as details.

Thanks,

Randy 

Re: Coupler Knuckles

Artur Pawlowski
 

I had a look at the athearn ones and you are right they are too small. I have some spare to scale knuckles with brackets that I can send you. See pics.
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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:28, Andy Jackson <lajrmdlr@...> wrote:

But are the Athearn knuckles to scale like the Sergent ones are?
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA




On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 8:21 AM Artur Pawlowski via Groups.Io <artur_pawlowski37=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Athearn sells the knuckles with the bracket for the back of the pilot. But you have to order over the phone.




On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:15, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all, I've been working on some Wisconsin Central GP38-2s lately, and a thought popped up. these engines have spare knuckle holders installed, and I was thinking of using Sergent knuckles as details.  Was wondering if Frank ever thought about selling just knuckles in packages of about a dozen or so as details. I'd hate to cannibalize knuckles from working couplers as details.

Thanks,

Randy 

Re: Coupler Knuckles

 

The Athearn knuckles don't look that out of scale. But the real knuckles weigh 75 lb so you don't want to have to carry them too far! 
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA




On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 8:40 AM Artur Pawlowski via Groups.Io <artur_pawlowski37=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I had a look at the athearn ones and you are right they are too small. I have some spare to scale knuckles with brackets that I can send you. See pics.







On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:28, Andy Jackson <lajrmdlr@...> wrote:

But are the Athearn knuckles to scale like the Sergent ones are?
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA




On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 8:21 AM Artur Pawlowski via Groups.Io <artur_pawlowski37=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Athearn sells the knuckles with the bracket for the back of the pilot. But you have to order over the phone.




On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:15, Randall Vos via Groups.Io <r_vos1979=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all, I've been working on some Wisconsin Central GP38-2s lately, and a thought popped up. these engines have spare knuckle holders installed, and I was thinking of using Sergent knuckles as details.  Was wondering if Frank ever thought about selling just knuckles in packages of about a dozen or so as details. I'd hate to cannibalize knuckles from working couplers as details.

Thanks,

Randy 

Re: Coupler Knuckles

James Wall
 

Sergent does sell just the knuckles.  I bought around 20 or so several years go.  A friend of mine has made etches of three styles of knuckle holders based on Norfolk Southern prototypes.  Frank's knuckles look great in them!  right now I don't have any pictures of these.

James Wall
Rural Hall, NC

Membership

Todd Fisher
 

My name is Todd Fisher and I am a new user of these fine HO scale couplers, I am a member of the Facebook group for Sergent couplers and would like to expand to meet even more users sothati may have other knowledgeable assistance when faced with any issues. I would very much like to join this group and look forward to meeting manyany more who share the same love for the Sergent line of couplers. Thanks 

Re: Making the plunge!

redleg142@...
 

Hello, All.
 My name is Cecil Collum and I have been a member about three weeks and have purchased and assembled the six EC87 couplers in the starter kit. I alssembled one coupler without the fixture then bought one and assembly of the other five took only about 30 minutes.
 To prevent losing the tiny balls and springs, I used a jewlers tip and put the bottom of my shop apron on the benchtop, placed the parts on that and had no ptoblems with fly away parts. My apron is medium blue so the parts contrasted well.
 I am building an HO pike after thirty years of N scale modeling, so my railroad is not operational just yet.

My Interest iN Group

Riley Kinney
 

Sergent couplers are so much more realistic and operate better so I don't bother with Kadee couplers. I remover them from RTR and use Sergent on building projects. I model the Charleston & Western Carolina in HO from Augusta, Ga to Greenwood, SC with some ACL locomotives I plans to decal for the C&WC and a 4-6-2 Broadway Limited undecorated I will decal too. Many of my cars are Sunshine or Yarmouth which will be decaled C&WC.

Riley Kinney