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Re: {Sergent Engineering} Not a Robot, and S Scale questions

Chris S
 

Bill,

Not a bad idea and I’ll look into that, but the profile of the Type E would still be pretty distinctively off. Regardless, it will look better than anything else available to my knowledge, but I sure wish there was an S scale Sharon available. As things are though, I think your idea is likely my best option.


thanks!
Chris


Re: {Sergent Engineering} Not a Robot, and S Scale questions

Bill Keene
 

Hello Chris,

Would an HO scale type E represent the size of the smaller coupler you want to install on the standard gauge equipment?

Cheers & Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Feb 12, 2018, at 4:35 AM, Chris S via Groups.Io <cottonwoodarmada1651@...> wrote:

Hi group,

I am also not a robot. I recently switched from HOn3/HO to Sn3/S and am curious about what my Sergents options are. My focus is 1907, so Sharon couplers are appropriate, and in HO I had planned (and started) to use Sharons on both standard and narrow gauge equipment, since many narrow gauge railroads used full-size couplers. Now in 1:64, I'm still planning on Sharons for the narrow gauge to represent a 3/4 size coupler (I'm a freelancer, so that's fine for me), but I'm not sure what to do on the (much smaller) roster of standard gauge equipment. The HO Sharon is too small, but the S scale Type E is too modern. Any ideas out there for an S scale early knuckle coupler?

Thanks!
Chris


Re: Making the plunge!

Jim King
 

Ed,

 

I now offer detailed, Sergent-compatible coupler boxes for the compatible- and narrow-shank styles.  Go here to view more info:

 

http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com/HO_draft_gear+cplrs.html

 

Jim King

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

 


Not a Robot, and S Scale questions

Chris S
 

Hi group,

I am also not a robot. I recently switched from HOn3/HO to Sn3/S and am curious about what my Sergents options are. My focus is 1907, so Sharon couplers are appropriate, and in HO I had planned (and started) to use Sharons on both standard and narrow gauge equipment, since many narrow gauge railroads used full-size couplers. Now in 1:64, I'm still planning on Sharons for the narrow gauge to represent a 3/4 size coupler (I'm a freelancer, so that's fine for me), but I'm not sure what to do on the (much smaller) roster of standard gauge equipment. The HO Sharon is too small, but the S scale Type E is too modern. Any ideas out there for an S scale early knuckle coupler?

Thanks!
Chris


Couplers

Ken Anderson
 

Hi everyone,my name is ken and I have been using Sargent couplers for a couple of years with good success.


Re: Making the plunge!

Ed Tibbetts <tippytib@...>
 

Got my Sergent Starter Set in the mail yesterday. Made a parts box for all the minute parts, plus the mounting screws and Kadee coupler pockets. I was pleasently surprised to find each package of RNC87K's contained a "bakers 1/2 dozen parts😊. Thanks Frank!


Would like to join Group.

Greg Benco
 

Hi guys. Have bought these couplers in the past and like them. Not big on the conversational side but may have a question or 2 every now and then. I model HO scale. Used to be on the Yahoo group but didn't know it had moved, as I don't visit Yahoo that much. Only found out about the move recently from the Sergent website as I was looking to place another order for couplers.


Thanks, Greg Benco.


Re: New Member

Nathan Rich <thaddeusthudpucker@...>
 

Sergent Engineering website, hit Products, then Compatible, and scroll down. 

Nathan

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Thomas Bavolar <tomsmodeltrains@...> wrote:
Hello Nathan and thanks for the reply. I'd like to get one of these uncoupler tools. Where are they available?......Tom



Re: New Member

Thomas Bavolar <tomsmodeltrains@...>
 

Hello Nathan and thanks for the reply. I'd like to get one of these uncoupler tools. Where are they available?......Tom


Re: New Member

Nathan Rich <thaddeusthudpucker@...>
 

Diaphragms do not preclude the use of sergent couplers, you just have to use an MWRY uncoupler tool which is designed to work with passenger equipment.

Nathan Rich 

On Feb 6, 2018 16:04, "Thomas Bavolar" <tomsmodeltrains@...> wrote:
Hello Group Members....I model HO and O scale passenger car equipment both heavyweight and streamline. I slice, dice and kit bash all of this equipment. Unfortunately the diaphragms on the cars preclude the use of the Sergent coupler. However, if I were to start modeling the older, wooden, open platform equipment, I'd use the Sergents. In the mean time I enjoy reading the posts and find them to be very informative.....Tom Bavolar


Re: Making the plunge!

Dale Buxton
 

Ed,
Funny you should ask about an after market coupler box for Sergent Sharon couplers in HOn3. Right now I’m working on a design to send to Shapeways to have them do in some kind of nylon. I’m not promising anything just yet. I have to see if my design will work with Shapeways production capabilities.

I’m thinking of a spring centering design that would use the coil spring that comes with the couplers. You would need to drill a tiny hole in the back end of the couplers shank and put a brass pin in the hole that would have about 1mm left sticking out the shanks back end. This pin would act as a keeper for the spring that would be mounted behind the shank. Or you could just leave the spring off like I do a lot of the time.

The box would be one piece with a length that is roughly the minimum of the distance between the inside back of a cars end beam and the front side of the bolster beam.

Right now all I use is the bottom half of a Kadee 714 coupler box on my scratch built cars. They do the job very nicely. But, I can see where are times where a self-centering coupler would be helpfull.

Dale Buxton




On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 15:04, John Niemeyer <reverend455@...> wrote:

Ed
 
I modified the draft gear box from a Micro Trains Line (MTL) 1025/1029 to work with the RNB87K couplers for several of my HOn3 models, including some Labelle. It would be nice if someone better than me, would make that draft gear box and sell it. I would buy hundreds for my HOn30 fleet.
 
Also if you’re worried about shorting thru the couplers. How often are you going to couple a rod engine front to front? The rear coupler is almost always insulated anyway, so not an issue. For my brass engines, I have successfully use Sergent RS1P87 & ES1P87 front pilot couplers with very little modifications to the engine.
 
John
 
 
I "bit the bullet" today and ordered a "starter kit" of RNC87's. I have some LaBelle box cars that have very little space between them when coupled together, so I am hopeful the C's will leave room for the uncupling wand. These cars will belong to the Red Mountain R.R., a switchback line off the summit of my HOn3 Colorado R.R.. I got an email back from Frank @ Sergent last night, and he said I would have no compatibility issues mixing the Sharon's with SBEC87P130K's. I plan to use the sbec's as pilot couplers on my rod engines. All my loco's are DeadRail, so I don't have to worry about electrical shorts if I double head the hill. :-) He also said he can supply the bulk (144) pack of RNC87K's. Said just order the B's, and send an email stating I really want the C's.  :-)


Re: Making the plunge!

Ed Tibbetts <tippytib@...>
 

I put up a couple of pictures of my first candidates. This is 1/2 the Red Mountain R.R. tolling stock. I figured if Otto Mears could use a shay om the Silverton R.R, I could use a climax.
I'll post again when I have the 6 sets of couplers installed and running.


Re: Making the plunge!

John Niemeyer
 

Ed
 
I modified the draft gear box from a Micro Trains Line (MTL) 1025/1029 to work with the RNB87K couplers for several of my HOn3 models, including some Labelle. It would be nice if someone better than me, would make that draft gear box and sell it. I would buy hundreds for my HOn30 fleet.
 
Also if you’re worried about shorting thru the couplers. How often are you going to couple a rod engine front to front? The rear coupler is almost always insulated anyway, so not an issue. For my brass engines, I have successfully use Sergent RS1P87 & ES1P87 front pilot couplers with very little modifications to the engine.
 
John
 
 
I "bit the bullet" today and ordered a "starter kit" of RNC87's. I have some LaBelle box cars that have very little space between them when coupled together, so I am hopeful the C's will leave room for the uncupling wand. These cars will belong to the Red Mountain R.R., a switchback line off the summit of my HOn3 Colorado R.R.. I got an email back from Frank @ Sergent last night, and he said I would have no compatibility issues mixing the Sharon's with SBEC87P130K's. I plan to use the sbec's as pilot couplers on my rod engines. All my loco's are DeadRail, so I don't have to worry about electrical shorts if I double head the hill. :-) He also said he can supply the bulk (144) pack of RNC87K's. Said just order the B's, and send an email stating I really want the C's.  :-)


Re: Making the plunge!

Ed Tibbetts <tippytib@...>
 

I "bit the bullet" today and ordered a "starter kit" of RNC87's. I have some LaBelle box cars that have very little space between them when coupled together, so I am hopeful the C's will leave room for the uncupling wand. These cars will belong to the Red Mountain R.R., a switchback line off the summit of my HOn3 Colorado R.R.. I got an email back from Frank @ Sergent last night, and he said I would have no compatibility issues mixing the Sharon's with SBEC87P130K's. I plan to use the sbec's as pilot couplers on my rod engines. All my loco's are DeadRail, so I don't have to worry about electrical shorts if I double head the hill. :-) He also said he can supply the bulk (144) pack of RNC87K's. Said just order the B's, and send an email stating I really want the C's.  :-)


Re: Coupler comparison

Mark Lewis
 

Ken:

I had no trouble viewing your photos.

Thank you for the info on which specific Sergent coupler you are using for a replacement of the Kadee #26, in Sn3.

Mark Lewis


Re: Coupler comparison

Ken Neufeld
 

Mike and Mark
You have to be logged in to the io groups. Photo directory is on the left. Title is coupler comparison.
I am using the HO compatible shank, .100 extended version for boxcars. This one will replace the #26 wherever it is used.

Ken


Re: Coupler comparison

Mark Lewis
 

Ken:

IMO- the Sergent looks most prototypical. Which Sergent coupler are you using for Sn3?

Mark Lewis


Re: New Member

tomsmodeltrains@...
 

Hello Group Members....I model HO and O scale passenger car equipment both heavyweight and streamline. I slice, dice and kit bash all of this equipment. Unfortunately the diaphragms on the cars preclude the use of the Sergent coupler. However, if I were to start modeling the older, wooden, open platform equipment, I'd use the Sergents. In the mean time I enjoy reading the posts and find them to be very informative.....Tom Bavolar


Re: Coupler comparison

Mike Conder
 

Ken, the IO site doesn't yet have all the functionality of the old Yahoo group, so I can't find your photos ... the listing sequence is fixed and basically alphabetical.. So can you let us know the name of the album with your photos?

Thanks, Mike Conder


Coupler comparison

Ken Neufeld
 

I added 3 photos to the photo directory.
This is to compare prototype, Sergent and Kadee. The boxcar is Sn3 and the Kadee is a #26.
Comments on the appearance, prototype to either of the others.
Thanks,
Ken Neufeld

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