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Re: [SergentEng] Re: Use of Couplers

Joseph Pyland
 

Dave, just starting to upgrade, only got the first 6, so no big deal, thought I would ask BEFORE I spent a lot of money.

 

Joe P

 

 

From: SergentEng@... [mailto:SergentEng@...]
Sent: Sunday, 10 January, 2016 21:00
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: [SergentEng] Re: Use of Couplers

 

 

On Jan 9, 2016, at 3:21 PM, 'Joe Pyland' <jpyland@...> wrote:
Thank You David, I guess my Es will be relegated to MOW service.

 

Joe, don't get me wrong - standard type Es aren't completely gone from revenue freight cars, they just seem to be much less common than they were twenty years ago. I always try to go by prototype photos when choosing my coupler type, but that's challenging sometimes because there aren't a lot of online photos from the late '90s.

 

Dave Olsen

Alexandria, VA

 

16 down, 56 or so to go

Nathan Rich
 

Been working on my latest bulk pack, what else is everybody up to? 

Nathan Rich

Re: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

Joseph Pyland
 

Wait on my next group, Type H.  The security around here is tight, and I got a partial order, and it took 1.5 hours to be cleared  J

 

Kats, no they are not normal.

Joe Pyland

 

 

From: SergentEng@... [mailto:SergentEng@...]
Sent: Sunday, 7 February, 2016 03:22
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

 

 

Been working on my latest bulk pack, what else is everybody up to? 

 

Nathan Rich

Re: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

Tim L
 

Absolutely nothing.

However going from no-free-time to all-free-time for at least the next
few weeks I might just get the rest of my couplers assembled. I might
even get some installed!

Tim

On 07/02/2016 20:21, Nathan Rich thaddeusthudpucker@... [SergentEng] wrote:
Been working on my latest bulk pack, what else is everybody up to?


Nathan Rich

Re: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

Christopher Zurek
 

Nothing, just trying to recover.

On Friday I had a Pulmonary Vein Ablation done to try and cure a-fib and a-flutter. This is the second one in about 18 months. I feel like I've been run over by a bus.
Right now I'm catching up on email.

I have lots of couplers to build, I'll start that again when I feel better.

Chris Z.

On 2/7/2016 3:21 AM, Nathan Rich thaddeusthudpucker@... [SergentEng] wrote:
 

Been working on my latest bulk pack, what else is everybody up to? 


Nathan Rich

Re: 16 down, 56 or so to go

Josh Baakko
 

SDEC87A (yes A's) installed into a nearly complete weathering job on a pair of American Limited Models Trinity 3281 Covered Hoppers.

I'm going to need to order myself a jig and some bulk packs, so I can complete some mass equipping as I finish weathering some of my "simple" weathering jobs.
Josh

Re: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

Dave Snyder
 

Chris, I hope you have a complete and successful recovery. Having worked in the healthcare field, I know that can take the "wind out of your sails" and I hope this episode is the last one you have and get back to your couplers.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.

Re: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

Ryan Harris
 

Hear, hear, Dave! 

Best wishes to you, Chris, for a speedy and full recovery. I am pulling for you. 



Ryan Harris
Fort Worth TX 


-------- Original message --------
From: "davesnyder59@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...>
Date: 02/07/2016 17:41 (GMT-06:00)
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

 

Chris, I hope you have a complete and successful recovery. Having worked in the healthcare field, I know that can take the "wind out of your sails" and I hope this episode is the last one you have and get back to your couplers.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.

Re: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

Christopher Zurek
 

Thank you very much Dave. I'm feeling better today but that 7 hours on the table had stiffened up my joints and really messed up my sciatica. But, I think today I may get a little model railroading done.

Chris Z.

On 2/7/2016 5:41 PM, davesnyder59@... [SergentEng] wrote:
 

Chris, I hope you have a complete and successful recovery. Having worked in the healthcare field, I know that can take the "wind out of your sails" and I hope this episode is the last one you have and get back to your couplers.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.


Re: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

Christopher Zurek
 

Thanks Ryan. I hope all this gets better soon. I am a little disappointed that I missed participating with the MN Free-mo group this weekend at WGH in St Paul.

Chris Z.

On 2/7/2016 8:53 PM, Ryan Harris ryan.harris@... [SergentEng] wrote:
 

Hear, hear, Dave! 

Best wishes to you, Chris, for a speedy and full recovery. I am pulling for you. 



Ryan Harris
Fort Worth TX 


-------- Original message --------
From: "davesnyder59@... [SergentEng]"
Date: 02/07/2016 17:41 (GMT-06:00)
To: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] 16 down, 56 or so to go

 

Chris, I hope you have a complete and successful recovery. Having worked in the healthcare field, I know that can take the "wind out of your sails" and I hope this episode is the last one you have and get back to your couplers.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.


Rookie needs help

Joe Schmo
 

Hi group! I am brand new to the group. I joined because I am switching to Sergents and I am looking for any help I can get. My first question is which Sergents do I need to model 1940s steam? What else does the group suggest I get ( coupler height gauge, etc.)?

Re: [SergentEng] Rookie needs help

Nathan Rich
 

You just need a bunch of E couplers. If you have a bunch of logging stuff you can use some Sharon couplers for variety.

For other supplies, pick up a height gauge as those are always useful, I like to use two to compare bothe ends of the car at the same time. Assembly jigs are essential, there is one for E's and one for Sharon's. Uncoupling wands are also necessary, I recommend starting with two and later on get a bunch to put at strategic places around your layout.

Welcome to the club!
Nathan Rich


On Friday, February 19, 2016, hydro31452002@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:
 

Hi group! I am brand new to the group. I joined because I am switching to Sergents and I am looking for any help I can get. My first question is which Sergents do I need to model 1940s steam? What else does the group suggest I get ( coupler height gauge, etc.)?

Re: [SergentEng] Rookie needs help

Joe Schmo
 

Fantastic!!! Thanks for the help and I can't wait to get started!!!

LaBelle Cars

Mike Van Hove
 

Hi, group,

I’m building some HOn3 LaBelle Passenger car kits.

So far, so good, but I’m a bit stymied as to how to do the couplers. I want to use (Naturally) the Sergent HOn3 Sharon Couplers. However, the casting that is for the end platform, coupler mount and truck bolster seems to leave a lot to be desired.

As those of you who have built some of the kits know, the instructions leave quite a bit up to your imagination. Especially in regard to coupler mounting.

The younger, brasher side of me says, “Trash this casting and build something new, from the ground up.” The older, wiser side of me says, “ Ask the group, they surely must have been there, done that.”

I did dig out the 2014 issue of the HOn3 Annual, from White River, which has a very good article on installing couplers on HOn3 rolling stock. However, the article does not deal with the LaBelle type of mounting.

So, if one or more of you folks out there has the solution to this, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Mike Van Hove

mvanhove@...

[SergentEng] LaBelle Cars

Mike Conder
 

It has been a long time since I fiddled with one of these cars, but my first thought would be to upgrade the coupler pocket with a new one.  And I'd look at what John Niemeyer did for his logging cars as a first idea to consider. 

Mike Conder

Re: [SergentEng] LaBelle Cars

Michael Graff
 

I filed the original "pocket" down and installed the Sergent Sharon in place.

Michael Graff "Deo adjuvante labor proficit"


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Ämne:[SergentEng] LaBelle Cars

 

Hi, group,

I’m building some HOn3 LaBelle Passenger car kits.

So far, so good, but I’m a bit stymied as to how to do the couplers. I want to use (Naturally) the Sergent HOn3 Sharon Couplers. However, the casting that is for the end platform, coupler mount and truck bolster seems to leave a lot to be desired.

As those of you who have built some of the kits know, the instructions leave quite a bit up to your imagination. Especially in regard to coupler mounting.

The younger, brasher side of me says, “Trash this casting and build something new, from the ground up.” The older, wiser side of me says, “ Ask the group, they surely must have been there, done that.”

I did dig out the 2014 issue of the HOn3 Annual, from White River, which has a very good article on installing couplers on HOn3 rolling stock. However, the article does not deal with the LaBelle type of mounting.

So, if one or more of you folks out there has the solution to this, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Mike Van Hove

mvanhove@...

Re: [SergentEng] LaBelle Cars

Mike Van Hove
 

Thanks, Mike.
This is kinda what I figured would have to be done.  The casting is pretty thin at this point, so I may have to just file it away and join it to one of the Sergent coupler boxes.

Mike

On Feb 20, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Mike Conder vulturenest1@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

It has been a long time since I fiddled with one of these cars, but my first thought would be to upgrade the coupler pocket with a new one.  And I'd look at what John Niemeyer did for his logging cars as a first idea to consider. 


Mike Conder


Re: [SergentEng] LaBelle Cars

Mike Van Hove
 

Thanks, Michael.
The cast is so thin at this point, I thought maybe I would just file the whole thing down and attach the platform to one of the Sergent coupler boxes.

We’ll see how it goes.
Thanks,
Mike

On Feb 20, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Michael michael.graff@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

I filed the original "pocket" down and installed the Sergent Sharon in place.

Michael Graff "Deo adjuvante labor proficit"


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Ämne:[SergentEng] LaBelle Cars

 

Hi, group,

I’m building some HOn3 LaBelle Passenger car kits.

So far, so good, but I’m a bit stymied as to how to do the couplers. I want to use (Naturally) the Sergent HOn3 Sharon Couplers. However, the casting that is for the end platform, coupler mount and truck bolster seems to leave a lot to be desired.

As those of you who have built some of the kits know, the instructions leave quite a bit up to your imagination. Especially in regard to coupler mounting.

The younger, brasher side of me says, “Trash this casting and build something new, from the ground up.” The older, wiser side of me says, “ Ask the group, they surely must have been there, done that.”

I did dig out the 2014 issue of the HOn3 Annual, from White River, which has a very good article on installing couplers on HOn3 rolling stock. However, the article does not deal with the LaBelle type of mounting.

So, if one or more of you folks out there has the solution to this, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Mike Van Hove

mvanhove@...



Re: [SergentEng] LaBelle Cars

Duncan Harvey
 

Mike,

Not sure if this is of any help. The La Belle end platforms are smooth on the underside. I've just assembled couplers in their boxes, whatever ones you are going to use for the Sergents, and then glued the boxes to the underside of the platform. I've used Goo and I think epoxy would work as well. I'm kitbashing a car using La Belle end platforms and am close to starting another La Belle kit. As I look at the end platform it appears to be well shaped, but lacking in detail, so I am investigating what details to add and then how to add them - ratchet and pawl, nut-bolt-washers, lower staff bracket, end railings and so on. Hope this is of some help!
Duncan

Re: [SergentEng] LaBelle Cars

John Niemeyer <jniemeyer@...>
 

Mike

If I may. I've built a number of La Belle that were originally made by three different owners and the end platforms were different on all three. I can't remember which was which. I believe the first was produced with a channel like draft gear box. Too narrow for any coupler without modification. I machined this off and used a Kadee draft gear box. Drilling and tapping a brass 0-80 machine screw then filing the top flush with the upper deck. The second was a flat pad that was fairly thick. I filed that down and once again I used the Kadee draft gear box and 0-80 screw. and the current, I just drilled and tapped 0-80 again. The reason that I use the Kadee draft gear box is that the Accumate is too wide for HOn3 and doesn't allow enough clearance for the wheels. I've installed Blackstone trucks, with pick-up wipers, on my coaches. The pick-up wiper leave even less space for the draft gear box. On some coaches, I've added LED marker lights and interior lighting.

John Niemeyer


Mike,

Not sure if this is of any help. The La Belle end platforms are smooth on the underside. I've just assembled couplers in their boxes, whatever ones you are going to use for the Sergents, and then glued the boxes to the underside of the platform. I've used Goo and I think epoxy would work as well. I'm kitbashing a car using La Belle end platforms and am close to starting another La Belle kit. As I look at the end platform it appears to be well shaped, but lacking in detail, so I am investigating what details to add and then how to add them - ratchet and pawl, nut-bolt-washers, lower staff bracket, end railings and so on.
Hope this is of some help!
Duncan