Re: [SergentEng] Re: EC87A - DISCONTINUED?

Bill Keene <wakeene@...>

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the advise on getting started with the assembly process. 

I plan on ordering extra springs and steel balls. Like you, I have put a good number into orbit. Has to be in orbit as they never seem to come back to mother earth. 

In fact, once when I ran out of springs I resorted to installing now out of service Kadee coupler knuckle springs. These are a bit softer and do not provide as much resistance to movement of the coupler but do tend to work acceptably. I have even installed the Sergent couplers without springs but with a cut bit of foam in their place. The jury is still out on this but so far no problems. Then again, there is fairly limited running at my place until the layout gets farther along in construction. 

Thanks for the reminders, hints, suggestions, and encouragement.

Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Jul 9, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Michael F Looney excalibur5776@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

 Before you order make sure to order spare springs, and balls, because I know for a fact you will always need more, because a spring like to go on a trip that you didn't plan for it, and the tniy little balls, want to follow them, and they weren't even invited to go. I order in bulk 144 at a time, and than put everything in little plastic boxes that you can close and lock shut, and than label all the boxes. I also use a Kadee spring tool for putting or trying to put the spring in place.
 If anyone else can think of anything I might have missed, let him know, or anything that might help him along the way.
 Once you have put together a few you will get the hang of it, or you will be cussing all of us out, for forgetting to tell you something that was important, but remember some of us are old fart, with bad hearts.
 Michael Looney

Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 20:35:45 -0700
From: SergentEng@...
Subject: Re: [SergentEng] Re: EC87A - DISCONTINUED?
To: SergentEng@...

Hello Andy, Dale, Josh, Dave, Dave, Mike, Ryan, Michael, Nathan, and whoever else my old dog memory has managed to forget,

Wow! Thank you all of the advise and encouragement. Believe me, it is very much appreciated. 

In fact, each of you have raised my confidence about giving the task of assembly a try. Once I get the necessary kits and begin assembling these couplers I will report my experiences. 

Some asked how many couplers I needed. Thanks for asking. The answer is around 130 pairs. This is about the total of pieces of equipment that I will eventual require to support the planned layout. Right now the immediate number is 64 pairs. I also have installed 20 pairs on that many assembled freight cars. 

Also, regarding the notice of discontinuance of the assembled couplers that prompted my original question, I can fully understand Frank Sergent’s action. I have searched the group’s archives for his notice but somehow I missed finding it. Then again, I am not the best of searchers. I must have missed the original posting due to my schedule that has me working on a cruise ship for four months out of the year. One tends loose touch with what is going on around one when at sea. 

Again, a big THANK YOU for each and every response. Also for the confidence raising advise and encouragement.

Cheers & Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Nathan Rich thaddeusthudpucker@... [SergentEng] <SergentEng@...> wrote:

I am still available for anyone who needs couplers assembled. Just email me off list if you need some done. I paint, assemble, break in, and re-ship them. I do not keep stock on hand, everything is made to order, and I have no inside track on anything if it is unavailable on the site.

My 27 year old eyes are laser sharp and I would love to take on anybody's coupler needs. Especially if you can't get the rusty red primer, I can send you completed painted couplers.

Nathan Rich

On Jul 7, 2016 3:08 PM, "Ryan Harris ryan.harris@... [SergentEng]" <SergentEng@...> wrote:

Around that time someone on the list offered to assemble them. I suppose that's still an option if the enterprising list member wishes to speak up.

They really aren't that hard to assemble but if your eyes are 40 years old or more I would recommend a 4 power Optivisor along with the assembly fixture. Good luck!

Ryan H
Fort Worth, TX

On 7/7/2016 5:04 PM, 'David R. Olsen' 3acr.scout@... [SergentEng] wrote:
To answer Bill's original question, I believe Frank announced about 6 months ago that he would no longer be offering the assembled couplers because it was just getting to be too much work for him. I remember it coming up on the list but don't have my old messages handy at the moment.

I don't mind assembling them myself but have been lazy about getting around to painting the parts first.

Dave Olsen
El Paso, TX


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