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Re: SPOW Duncan Chisholm

Andrew Millard
 

Hi Paul,

 

This is a bit of slow reply as I’ve been snowed under with other things.

 

How far back is your paper-trail verified by autosomal or Y-DNA matches to other Rowe descendants? The Chisholm who fathered a Rowe doesn’t have to be in that first generation unless you can demonstrate that is the only possibility. Looking at your family tree the Rowes are all in Hampton, New Hampshire. The first couple of generations of Chisholms are in Biddeford, Maine, which is less than 50 miles away, and some later generations are at Newbury, Massachusetts, only 16 miles away, so it is hard to rule out interactions between the families in the intervening centuries.

 

I’ll ask to get the website changed for Duncan Chisholm, as I didn’t know of that 1659 reference when we were writing Lost Lives New Voices.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Kate's via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 16:04
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io; MILLARD, ANDREW R. <a.r.millard@...>
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] SPOW Duncan Chisholm

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering if anyone could help me locate a male descendant of SPOW Duncan Chisholm that would be willing to join the Scotts Prisoners Y dna project. I am kit #887186. I can trace my paternal line back to a Robert Roe in born about 1659 in Salisbury Ma. Robert had a son with Mary Paine, Robert Rowe Jr who became an indentured servant for Capt. Joseph Swett. Familytreedna placed me in the Chisholm surname and said that at a GD of about 350-400 years ago their is a 98% chance my surname was Chisholm. This is why I believe I am a descendant of Duncan's.

Thanks for any help 

Paul Kates

On 02/23/2021 3:42 AM Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 

 


Re: Kirk sessions online

Terrance Filter
 

Thank you Andrew!  Great source!  TAF

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Andrew Millard
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:48 AM
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Kirk sessions online

 

ScotlandsPeople website has published online for free over a million images of Kirk Session records. These are not indexed, but this is a game-changer in terms of access. https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/virtual-volumes

 

They have a guide to the Sessions https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-guides/kirk-session-records

 

Records don't survive for all parishes but sometimes they do survive for times and places where the parish registers are lost. These records are an excellent resource for researching the lives of ordinary people.

 

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

 


Kirk sessions online

Andrew Millard
 

ScotlandsPeople website has published online for free over a million images of Kirk Session records. These are not indexed, but this is a game-changer in terms of access. https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/virtual-volumes

 

They have a guide to the Sessions https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-guides/kirk-session-records

 

Records don't survive for all parishes but sometimes they do survive for times and places where the parish registers are lost. These records are an excellent resource for researching the lives of ordinary people.

 

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 


Re: Alexander Bow descendent --Barbados

Nancy Magruder
 

Eleanor,   Then we are related!!  

Ninian Beall's daughter, Sarah Beall (1659 - 1734), married the son of my SPOW ancestor (Alexander MacGregor (1610 - 1677)).   Sarah married Samual B Magruder (1654 - 1711) in 1680.  Sarah and Sam had John Magruder (1694 - 1750) through which I am a descendent.   

Ninian and Alexander were both brought to Maryland via Barbados.  Probably on the same ship together.  Wish we had those stories documented!!

Nancy Magruder Lovelaguna@...


On Monday, March 1, 2021, 07:59:20 PM PST, Eleanor Hall via groups.io <eleahall@...> wrote:


Attached is some information on the Scots going to Barbados. I don't think there is any listing of them by name. 

My ancestor was Ninian Beall, a SPOW who was sent to Barbados, then had his indenture bought and went to Maryland.

Eleanor Hall

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 02:10:19 AM CST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:


Dear Nancy,

 

I’m not aware of any passenger lists except the John and Sara. For some reason that got copied into the Suffolk County register of deeds, but making lists, keeping them and enrolling them don’t seem to have been regular activities.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nancy Magruder via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 20:12
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io; ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Andrew,

    I was curious to know if you are familiar with any ships that took SPOWs from England to America, via Barbados in 1651 after the battle of Worchester.  My ancestor is Alexander MacGregor who was captured at the Battle of Worchester and sent to America via Barbados.  I am familiar with the manifest of the John & Sara from 1650 Dunbar Battle but I have not been able to find any ship manifest naming SPOW for Worchester 1651.  Any ideas?

 

Thank you,  Nancy

 

Nancy Magruder Lovelaguna@...

 

 

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:42:27 AM PST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 


Re: Alexander Bow descendent --Barbados

Margaret Curry
 

There should be some information on the SPOWS website - in the blog section-about researching Scots sent to Barbados.  


On Mar 1, 2021, at 7:59 PM, Eleanor Hall via groups.io <eleahall@...> wrote:


Attached is some information on the Scots going to Barbados. I don't think there is any listing of them by name. 

My ancestor was Ninian Beall, a SPOW who was sent to Barbados, then had his indenture bought and went to Maryland.

Eleanor Hall

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 02:10:19 AM CST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:


Dear Nancy,

 

I’m not aware of any passenger lists except the John and Sara. For some reason that got copied into the Suffolk County register of deeds, but making lists, keeping them and enrolling them don’t seem to have been regular activities.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nancy Magruder via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 20:12
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io; ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Andrew,

    I was curious to know if you are familiar with any ships that took SPOWs from England to America, via Barbados in 1651 after the battle of Worchester.  My ancestor is Alexander MacGregor who was captured at the Battle of Worchester and sent to America via Barbados.  I am familiar with the manifest of the John & Sara from 1650 Dunbar Battle but I have not been able to find any ship manifest naming SPOW for Worchester 1651.  Any ideas?

 

Thank you,  Nancy

 

Nancy Magruder Lovelaguna@...

 

 

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:42:27 AM PST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 

<Barbados SPOWs.docx>


Re: Alexander Bow descendent --Barbados

Eleanor Hall
 

Attached is some information on the Scots going to Barbados. I don't think there is any listing of them by name. 

My ancestor was Ninian Beall, a SPOW who was sent to Barbados, then had his indenture bought and went to Maryland.

Eleanor Hall

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 02:10:19 AM CST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:


Dear Nancy,

 

I’m not aware of any passenger lists except the John and Sara. For some reason that got copied into the Suffolk County register of deeds, but making lists, keeping them and enrolling them don’t seem to have been regular activities.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nancy Magruder via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 20:12
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io; ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Andrew,

    I was curious to know if you are familiar with any ships that took SPOWs from England to America, via Barbados in 1651 after the battle of Worchester.  My ancestor is Alexander MacGregor who was captured at the Battle of Worchester and sent to America via Barbados.  I am familiar with the manifest of the John & Sara from 1650 Dunbar Battle but I have not been able to find any ship manifest naming SPOW for Worchester 1651.  Any ideas?

 

Thank you,  Nancy

 

Nancy Magruder Lovelaguna@...

 

 

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:42:27 AM PST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 


Re: Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

Andrew Millard
 

Dear Nancy,

 

I’m not aware of any passenger lists except the John and Sara. For some reason that got copied into the Suffolk County register of deeds, but making lists, keeping them and enrolling them don’t seem to have been regular activities.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nancy Magruder via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 20:12
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io; ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Andrew,

    I was curious to know if you are familiar with any ships that took SPOWs from England to America, via Barbados in 1651 after the battle of Worchester.  My ancestor is Alexander MacGregor who was captured at the Battle of Worchester and sent to America via Barbados.  I am familiar with the manifest of the John & Sara from 1650 Dunbar Battle but I have not been able to find any ship manifest naming SPOW for Worchester 1651.  Any ideas?

 

Thank you,  Nancy

 

Nancy Magruder Lovelaguna@...

 

 

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:42:27 AM PST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 


Re: SPOW Duncan Chisholm

Paul Kate's
 

Also it says on the website that it is "possible" that Duncan Chisholm is a SPOW from Dunbar because he "appears quite late in 1667". but yet he actually appears in court records in 1659 in Scarborough Maine where he is "fined for fighting fellow Scot John McKenney".
Can anyone tell me how to go about getting that changed to "probable"?

On 02/23/2021 11:04 AM Paul Kate's <paulkates64@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone could help me locate a male descendant of SPOW Duncan Chisholm that would be willing to join the Scotts Prisoners Y dna project. I am kit #887186. I can trace my paternal line back to a Robert Roe in born about 1659 in Salisbury Ma. Robert had a son with Mary Paine, Robert Rowe Jr who became an indentured servant for Capt. Joseph Swett. Familytreedna placed me in the Chisholm surname and said that at a GD of about 350-400 years ago their is a 98% chance my surname was Chisholm. This is why I believe I am a descendant of Duncan's.
Thanks for any help 
Paul Kates
On 02/23/2021 3:42 AM Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:
 
 

Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 

 


Duncan Chisholm

Paul Kate's
 

Thanks again Roland. I am going to look into MH dna and also the Scottish Genelogical Society.
It would be incredible if after almost 400 years my Y DNA proved that Duncan Chisholm was Robert Roe's father. There are hundreds of Rowe descendants that have no idea their real name is Chisholm and that they are a descendant of a Scottish POW from the Battle of Dunbar.

On 02/23/2021 5:01 PM Mark Abernathy via groups.io <markabernathy@...> wrote:
 
 
I also heard our family member came through the Barbados to Jamestown, Robert Abernathy.   I have a copy of his will near Jamestown. 
 
So far no one can find any documentation that supports this.

 

On Feb 23, 2021, at 14:37, Nancy Magruder via groups.io <lovelaguna@...> wrote:

Andrew,
    I was curious to know if you are familiar with any ships that took SPOWs from England to America, via Barbados in 1651 after the battle of Worchester.  My ancestor is Alexander MacGregor who was captured at the Battle of Worchester and sent to America via Barbados.  I am familiar with the manifest of the John & Sara from 1650 Dunbar Battle but I have not been able to find any ship manifest naming SPOW for Worchester 1651.  Any ideas?
 
Thank you,  Nancy
 
Nancy Magruder Lovelaguna@...
 
 
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:42:27 AM PST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:
 
 

Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 

 

 


Re: Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

Mark Abernathy
 

I also heard our family member came through the Barbados to Jamestown, Robert Abernathy.   I have a copy of his will near Jamestown. 

So far no one can find any documentation that supports this.


On Feb 23, 2021, at 14:37, Nancy Magruder via groups.io <lovelaguna@...> wrote:


Andrew,
    I was curious to know if you are familiar with any ships that took SPOWs from England to America, via Barbados in 1651 after the battle of Worchester.  My ancestor is Alexander MacGregor who was captured at the Battle of Worchester and sent to America via Barbados.  I am familiar with the manifest of the John & Sara from 1650 Dunbar Battle but I have not been able to find any ship manifest naming SPOW for Worchester 1651.  Any ideas?

Thank you,  Nancy

Nancy Magruder Lovelaguna@...


On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:42:27 AM PST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:


Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 


Re: Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

Nancy Magruder
 

Andrew,
    I was curious to know if you are familiar with any ships that took SPOWs from England to America, via Barbados in 1651 after the battle of Worchester.  My ancestor is Alexander MacGregor who was captured at the Battle of Worchester and sent to America via Barbados.  I am familiar with the manifest of the John & Sara from 1650 Dunbar Battle but I have not been able to find any ship manifest naming SPOW for Worchester 1651.  Any ideas?

Thank you,  Nancy

Nancy Magruder Lovelaguna@...


On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:42:27 AM PST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:


Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 


SPOW Duncan Chisholm

Paul Kate's
 

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone could help me locate a male descendant of SPOW Duncan Chisholm that would be willing to join the Scotts Prisoners Y dna project. I am kit #887186. I can trace my paternal line back to a Robert Roe in born about 1659 in Salisbury Ma. Robert had a son with Mary Paine, Robert Rowe Jr who became an indentured servant for Capt. Joseph Swett. Familytreedna placed me in the Chisholm surname and said that at a GD of about 350-400 years ago their is a 98% chance my surname was Chisholm. This is why I believe I am a descendant of Duncan's.
Thanks for any help 
Paul Kates

On 02/23/2021 3:42 AM Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:
 
 

Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 

 


Re: Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

Andrew Millard
 

Hello and welcome mccarpenter,

 

The Society web site has a limited set of information about Alexander at https://spows.org/battle-of-dunbar/battle-of-dunbar-prisoners-of-war/battle-of-dunbar-prisoner-profiles/alexander-bow/

A lot more detail is given on this site https://alexanderbow.com/alexander/

As far as I know he is never explicitly said to be Scottish in contemporary records, but his land grant on the same day and adjacent to other known Scots strongly suggests it.

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/directory/profile/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 

From: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io <ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io> On Behalf Of mccarpenter via groups.io
Sent: 23 February 2021 04:37
To: ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety@groups.io
Subject: [ScottishPrisonersofWarSociety] Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 


Alexander Bow descendent #Introductions

mccarpenter@...
 

Hello. I recently discovered that Alexander Bow is my ancestor (b. 1605, d. Nov. 6, 1678 in Middleton, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, USA).  I am looking for any information about him. All I know is he was born in Scotland (some sources say "possibly born in Scotland") and he may have been one of the SPOW. 
I also have Forbes and Grant connections. 
I am looking forward to discovering more here! 


Re: New paper from Durham Scottish Soldiers project

Nelda Gallerano
 

Merry Christmas Andrew! Thank you for forwarding this!  I can’t wait to find a quiet moment and geek out on your new paper!  Especially on the teeth!  Hope you and your family are safe during these trying times!  

Nelda Upton Gallerano


On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Doug Cahoon via groups.io <doug_cahoon@...> wrote:

Thanks Andrew.

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020, 03:54:35 AM MST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:


I’m please to announce the latest paper from the Durham University Scottish Soldiers Project.

 

Scottish soldiers from the Battle of Dunbar 1650: A prosopographical approach to a skeletal assemblage

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0243369

 

This is a long paper, including some quite technical parts, covering the scientific analyses carried out on the skeletons found at Palace Green Durham in 2013. Here’s the abstract:

After the Battle Dunbar between English and Scottish forces in 1650, captured Scottish soldiers were imprisoned in Durham and many hundreds died there within a few weeks. The partial skeletal remains of 28 of these men were discovered in 2013. Building on previous osteological work, here we report wide-ranging scientific studies of the remains to address the following questions: Did they have comparable diet, health and disease throughout their lives? Did they have common histories of movement (or lack of movement) during their childhoods? Can we create a collective biography of these men? Strontium and oxygen isotope analysis of tooth enamel investigated childhood movement. Carbon and nitrogen isotope analysis of incrementally sampled dentine addressed childhood diet and nutrition. Metaproteomic analysis of dental calculus investigated oral microbiomes and food residues; this was complemented by microscopic analysis of debris in calculus from ingested materials. Selected individuals were examined for dental microwear. The extent of hydroxylation of proline in collagen was examined as a potential biomarker for scurvy. An osteobiography for each man was created using the full range of data generated about him, and these were synthesised using an approach based on the historical method for a collective biography or prosopography. The childhood residences of the men were primarily within the Midland Valley of Scotland, though some spent parts of their childhood outside the British Isles. This is concordant with the known recruitment areas of the Scottish army in 1650. Their diets included oats, brassicas and milk but little seafood, as expected for lowland rather than highland diets of the period. Childhood periods of starvation or illness were almost ubiquitous, but not simultaneous, suggesting regionally variable food shortages in the 1620s and 1630s. It is likely there was widespread low-level scurvy, ameliorating in later years of life, which suggests historically unrecorded shortages of fruit and vegetables in the early 1640s. Almost all men were exposed to burnt plant matter, probably as inhaled soot, and this may relate to the high proportion of them with of sinusitis. Interpersonal violence causing skeletal trauma was rare. Based on commonalities in their osteobiographies, we argue that these men were drawn from the same stratum of society. This study is perhaps the most extensive to date of individuals from 17th century Scotland. Combined with a precise historical context it allows the lives of these men to be investigated and compared to the historical record with unprecedented precision. It illustrates the power of archaeological science methods to confirm, challenge and complement historical evidence.

 

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/archaeology/staff/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 


Re: New paper from Durham Scottish Soldiers project

Doug Cahoon
 

Thanks Andrew.

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020, 03:54:35 AM MST, Andrew Millard <a.r.millard@...> wrote:


I’m please to announce the latest paper from the Durham University Scottish Soldiers Project.

 

Scottish soldiers from the Battle of Dunbar 1650: A prosopographical approach to a skeletal assemblage

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0243369

 

This is a long paper, including some quite technical parts, covering the scientific analyses carried out on the skeletons found at Palace Green Durham in 2013. Here’s the abstract:

After the Battle Dunbar between English and Scottish forces in 1650, captured Scottish soldiers were imprisoned in Durham and many hundreds died there within a few weeks. The partial skeletal remains of 28 of these men were discovered in 2013. Building on previous osteological work, here we report wide-ranging scientific studies of the remains to address the following questions: Did they have comparable diet, health and disease throughout their lives? Did they have common histories of movement (or lack of movement) during their childhoods? Can we create a collective biography of these men? Strontium and oxygen isotope analysis of tooth enamel investigated childhood movement. Carbon and nitrogen isotope analysis of incrementally sampled dentine addressed childhood diet and nutrition. Metaproteomic analysis of dental calculus investigated oral microbiomes and food residues; this was complemented by microscopic analysis of debris in calculus from ingested materials. Selected individuals were examined for dental microwear. The extent of hydroxylation of proline in collagen was examined as a potential biomarker for scurvy. An osteobiography for each man was created using the full range of data generated about him, and these were synthesised using an approach based on the historical method for a collective biography or prosopography. The childhood residences of the men were primarily within the Midland Valley of Scotland, though some spent parts of their childhood outside the British Isles. This is concordant with the known recruitment areas of the Scottish army in 1650. Their diets included oats, brassicas and milk but little seafood, as expected for lowland rather than highland diets of the period. Childhood periods of starvation or illness were almost ubiquitous, but not simultaneous, suggesting regionally variable food shortages in the 1620s and 1630s. It is likely there was widespread low-level scurvy, ameliorating in later years of life, which suggests historically unrecorded shortages of fruit and vegetables in the early 1640s. Almost all men were exposed to burnt plant matter, probably as inhaled soot, and this may relate to the high proportion of them with of sinusitis. Interpersonal violence causing skeletal trauma was rare. Based on commonalities in their osteobiographies, we argue that these men were drawn from the same stratum of society. This study is perhaps the most extensive to date of individuals from 17th century Scotland. Combined with a precise historical context it allows the lives of these men to be investigated and compared to the historical record with unprecedented precision. It illustrates the power of archaeological science methods to confirm, challenge and complement historical evidence.

 

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/archaeology/staff/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 


New paper from Durham Scottish Soldiers project

Andrew Millard
 

I’m please to announce the latest paper from the Durham University Scottish Soldiers Project.

 

Scottish soldiers from the Battle of Dunbar 1650: A prosopographical approach to a skeletal assemblage

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0243369

 

This is a long paper, including some quite technical parts, covering the scientific analyses carried out on the skeletons found at Palace Green Durham in 2013. Here’s the abstract:

After the Battle Dunbar between English and Scottish forces in 1650, captured Scottish soldiers were imprisoned in Durham and many hundreds died there within a few weeks. The partial skeletal remains of 28 of these men were discovered in 2013. Building on previous osteological work, here we report wide-ranging scientific studies of the remains to address the following questions: Did they have comparable diet, health and disease throughout their lives? Did they have common histories of movement (or lack of movement) during their childhoods? Can we create a collective biography of these men? Strontium and oxygen isotope analysis of tooth enamel investigated childhood movement. Carbon and nitrogen isotope analysis of incrementally sampled dentine addressed childhood diet and nutrition. Metaproteomic analysis of dental calculus investigated oral microbiomes and food residues; this was complemented by microscopic analysis of debris in calculus from ingested materials. Selected individuals were examined for dental microwear. The extent of hydroxylation of proline in collagen was examined as a potential biomarker for scurvy. An osteobiography for each man was created using the full range of data generated about him, and these were synthesised using an approach based on the historical method for a collective biography or prosopography. The childhood residences of the men were primarily within the Midland Valley of Scotland, though some spent parts of their childhood outside the British Isles. This is concordant with the known recruitment areas of the Scottish army in 1650. Their diets included oats, brassicas and milk but little seafood, as expected for lowland rather than highland diets of the period. Childhood periods of starvation or illness were almost ubiquitous, but not simultaneous, suggesting regionally variable food shortages in the 1620s and 1630s. It is likely there was widespread low-level scurvy, ameliorating in later years of life, which suggests historically unrecorded shortages of fruit and vegetables in the early 1640s. Almost all men were exposed to burnt plant matter, probably as inhaled soot, and this may relate to the high proportion of them with of sinusitis. Interpersonal violence causing skeletal trauma was rare. Based on commonalities in their osteobiographies, we argue that these men were drawn from the same stratum of society. This study is perhaps the most extensive to date of individuals from 17th century Scotland. Combined with a precise historical context it allows the lives of these men to be investigated and compared to the historical record with unprecedented precision. It illustrates the power of archaeological science methods to confirm, challenge and complement historical evidence.

 

 

Best wishes

Andrew

--

Dr. Andrew Millard

Associate Professor of Archaeology, and

Designated Individual under the Human Tissue Act,

Durham University, UK

Email: A.R.Millard@... 

Personal page: https://www.dur.ac.uk/archaeology/staff/?id=160

Scottish Soldiers Project: https://www.dur.ac.uk/scottishsoldiers

Dunbar 1650 MOOC: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/battle-of-dunbar-1650

 

 


Introduction #Introductions

PattieRNBSN@...
 

Hello,
It doesn’t look as though I have ever introduced myself here.  I am Patricia MacBean-Puchino.  I am a descendant of John Bean and Henry Magoon.  I had thought I was also a descendant of John Magoon but I’m not so sure now.
be well
--
Cheers,

P. Grace MacBean-Puchino


Re: Introduction - Call Upon the Water

PattieRNBSN@...
 

Thanks Diane!--
Cheers,

P. Grace MacBean-Puchino


Re: Introduction - Call Upon the Water

NozemUK@...
 

Thank you Diane, indeed, had a look at the publisher's webpage on the novel . It is the same book ! 

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Call-Upon-the-Water/Stella-Tillyard/9781982120962