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Re: Evening Grosbeak - 24!

Geoffrey L. Rogers
 

Nancy and all,

A large on-screen version of the full map Nancy describes is available at
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rudyperry/7498562990

Geoffrey Rogers
San Diego, CA

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Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] Evening Grosbeak - 24!

The West Meadow area in the Lagunas continues to have grosbeaks and
crossbills. Twenty-four grosbeaks were seen in flight together this morning.
The birds seemed nervous and had not come in to drink when I left.

Directions: Park at mile 19 on Sunrise Highway. Take Trail 1 towards meadow.
Turn left on Trail 6. The area is on your left maybe 50 yards past that
intersection. Take a photo of thd trail map as you enter the area. That will
help!

Nancy Christensen
Ramona


A bird does not sing because it has an answer. It sings because it has a
song.
Chinese Proverb


hints on finding the Little Stint, Thick-billed Kingbird, and Scissor-tailed Flycatcher

lehman.paul@verizon.net
 

If anyone is having trouble finding the following birds, these bits of info may or may not help. All three birds were still present today, Nov 16.

LITTLE STINT: this year the bird has seemingly preferred the "elbow" area of the L-shaped island it frequents, when it's there.... Both the outside and the inside of the elbow, and sometimes just "beyond" (southwest of) the elbow. Which means that it is half way down the island of farther from where we public can stand, rather than at the front end of the island, which was used last year. Means that one needs a good scope and should avoid the mid-day hours when heat distortion is at its worst. It really is at the limit of diagnosability where it is frequenting this year! And while it does fairly often chase a nearby Western or Least Sandpiper around, there are certainly plenty of other Western X Western chases going on as well. One character that this bird shows that differs somewhat from most Westerns is a partial dusky breast band (clear in the middle). And of course the bill shape and sometimes the bird's overall size (slightly smaller than most, but not all, Westerns). The split supercilium is somewhat difficult to see given the distances involved. And as for the lack of toe webbing...

THICK-BILLED KINGBIRD: in past years, it seemed as though the favorite spots for this bird were, first, the couple sycamores on the greenbelt lawn between the swimming pool and Main Street, second was the alders directly across on the east side of the greenbelt from there, third was the sycamores inside the apt. complex just west of the pool, and fourth were various trees farther south in the greenbelt. And there was always the distinct possibility that it was AWOL, to parts unknown, for hours on end. Also, the warmer parts of the day tended to be better than the cooler ones. Well, so far this year it appears to prefer site #3, the sycamores inside the apt. complex--most notably the third or so tallest sycamore out of the four or so present inside the complex (the one that has some thin dead twigs at the top)--although it has also been seen at its other favored sites as well.

SCISSOR-TAILED FLYCATCHER: this individual is back now for its third winter and has very good color on the flanks and a fairly long tail. It is usually seen early and late in the day, and is often much more difficult to find at other times. Roosts with the Cassin's Kingbirds. Today, it was sunning itself for an extended period of time around 3PM at the dead twiggy top of a mid-sized eucalyptus tree along the east edge of the greenbelt, a little bit south of the swimming pool.

--Paul Lehman, San Diego


Re: Evening Grosbeak - 24!

Lisa Ruby
 

I was walking out as Nancy was coming back. Probably got to the water trough around 8:30. Stayed until around 11:30. Incredible morning! Some of the Evening Grosbeaks finally came down for water, as did several Red Crossbills. We also had a Townsend's Solitaire, a couple of Cassin's Finches, a Gray-headed Junco, after going through photos pretty sure a Pink-sided Junco, Pine Siskin, and an Eagle that I posted as Golden. I think that was the concensus reached out there when we looked at photos on cameras. Could use confirmation on that one. Also could use confirmation that the photos I posted of female Purple and Cassin's Finches are identified correctly.

https://ebird.org/checklist/S61504938

Lisa Ruby
Sabre Springs

On 11/16/2019 9:02 AM, Nancy Christensen wrote:
The West Meadow area in the Lagunas continues to have grosbeaks and crossbills. Twenty-four grosbeaks were seen in flight together this morning. The birds seemed nervous and had not come in to drink when I left.

Directions: Park at mile 19 on Sunrise Highway. Take Trail 1 towards meadow. Turn left on Trail 6. The area is on your left maybe 50 yards past that intersection. Take a photo of thd trail map as you enter the area. That will help!

Nancy Christensen
Ramona


A bird does not sing because it has an answer. It sings because it has a song.
Chinese Proverb

--
Lisa Ruby
Sabre Springs


SDFO meeting on Tuesday, November 19th

Barbara
 

REMINDER:

Our upcoming meeting takes place on Tuesday, November 19, at 6:00 p.m., in the Hoffman Room of the San Diego Foundation Building.

Our program this month is “Interpreting What You Hear: How To Better Understand Bird Sounds in San Diego,” by our very own Bruce Rideout.  Bruce is a pathologist and disease investigation specialist for the San Diego Zoo and San Diego Zoo Safari Park, where he is director of Disease Investigations.  

The focus of his presentation will be on understanding the significance of specific vocalizations, and how that can give us deeper insights into the natural history of the species we observe. Bruce will be sharing a number of recordings he has made in the county this year, quizzing audience members on the species represented, and showing how to interpret the vocalization in context.

Don't miss it!

Barbara Carlson
SDFO Membership


Pectoral sandpiper, cassin's vireo, American redstart

lehman.paul@verizon.net
 

at 1:45 p.m. on Saturday there is a pectoral sandpiper roosting with a large flock of greater yellowlegs about a hundred yards west of the corner of the salt works pond where the little stint is seen. the birds are along the path runs next to the bike trail in a muddy area. getting quite late for a pectoral. The same flock of yellowlegs also has two lesser yellowlegs in it. also at noon today at the North end of Nestor Park bordering the tesoro Grove apartments in the riparian there was a returning cassin's vireo back for its third or fourth year, the continuing female American redstart from a few days ago nearby, and returning Wilson's warbler and continuing returning black-throated gray warbler.

Paul Lehman, San Diego

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Broad-winged hawk over Bonita

lehman.paul@verizon.net
 

Saturday morning, Nov 16, at 9:40 a.m. I was birding with visiting Costa Rica birder Mario Cordoba when he calmly asked if Broad-winged Hawks are found around here, to which I of course replied no. And he said, well, what's that being chased by the raven overhead, and sure enough a broad-winged hawk was circling over our head over Bonita Road but it headed east and it looks like it's a migrant so will be impossible to refind rather than it's actually a bird that is wintering locally. But basically it went to to the east or southeast from Bonita road, probably toward Eastlake or Lower Otay Lake or Dulzura....

Earlier in the morning we saw the continuing Grace's warbler and Plumbeous vireo at Via La Jolla Park in La Jolla.

Paul Lehman, San Diego

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Evening Grosbeak - 24!

Nancy Christensen
 

The West Meadow area in the Lagunas continues to have grosbeaks and crossbills. Twenty-four grosbeaks were seen in flight together this morning. The birds seemed nervous and had not come in to drink when I left.

Directions: Park at mile 19 on Sunrise Highway. Take Trail 1 towards meadow. Turn left on Trail 6. The area is on your left maybe 50 yards past that intersection. Take a photo of thd trail map as you enter the area. That will help!

Nancy Christensen
Ramona


A bird does not sing because it has an answer. It sings because it has a song.
Chinese Proverb


Evening Grosbeak , Crossbill directions

Mel Senac
 

Just to be clear I am referring to the water trough by the meadow, not the ranch/House
Mel Senac


Evening Grosbeaks and Red Crossbills continue in the Lagunas—mile 19 marker

Mel Senac
 

As reported by Thomas Ford-Hutchinson on 11/14/19 a flock of 7 or 8 Evening Grosbeaks and similar number of Red Crossbills were again seen in the water trough before one reaches the smaller lake ( Los Rasalies Lake). It is on your left up the hill perhaps 100 yards but visible from the trail.

Today, Friday 11/15 three of us ( Barbara C, Dan J and myself ) met at mile 19 pullout. The water source is a little more than a mile hike in. Along the way there were a few Golden-crowned Kinglets. We arrived at the water trough around 10:00 AM or so and many birds were present including the Evening Grosbeaks and Crossbills. They were still coming down to the water from the Pines when I left at 11:45 AM.
I have heard from Nancy that they were not present this afternoon so my advice would be to try the morning.

Mel Senac
San Diego


Nelson’s Sparrow Kendall-Frost Marsh Reserve

Nathan French
 

Nelson’s Sparrow made a brief appearance on the fence and bushes (32.7927879, -117.2312450) at 10:35 AM and is still visible in the bush as I type this.

Nathan French
Hillcrest


Black-chinned Sparrow, Dulzura summit 11-15-19

David Povey
 

A Black-chinned Sparrow was a new arrival at my back yard water dish this morning.
Fairly common here in spring and early summer, my notes show late dates for this location of Sept. 4, 2009, and Sept. 7, 2015. So November is quite an extension. It will be interesting to see if this bird winters. The elevation here is 1600 ft. Phil Unit's San Diego County Bird Atlas 2004 does show a small number of this species rarely wintering in the foothills and lower elevations. 
The normal winter range of central, and southern Baja California
Dave Povey
Dulzura


Rangeland Road

Iris Kilpatrick
 

Juvenile Golden Eagle circling over field. Prairie Falcon, Dark Morgh Ferg. Hawk also present.

Iris Kilpatrick 


Re: New fort Rosecrans rule

Susie Amundson
 

Thank you, Susan, for sharing this information.


On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 9:18 PM SUSAN SMITH <seiurus@...> wrote:
Thanks to BJ and Susan for posting this information.  It is sad that birding is no longer allowed during much of the day at FRNC.  Assume this includes Sundays as well, when there are no services.  Palomar Audubon posts  guidelines for birding the cemetery at http://palomaraudubon.org/birding/websites/rosecrans/ .  Everyone should especially note the reason for the 2019 change concerning hours,  given by the Director  of FRNC/Miramar cemetery complex, Rex Kern, under the 'new' rules dated January 9, 2019.    Perhaps this should be posted officially on this listserve and on the SDFO website to alert birders who are still unaware of this new rule, especially visiting birders who may have travelled far to bird the cemetery.   

Susan Smith 
Seiurus Biological  Consulting 
Del Mar, CA 


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Subject: Re: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] New fort Rosecrans rule

Hi Brian,

Out of curiosity, I checked the cemetery schedule for 11/4.  There was a burial at 10:30, which I assume is the reason for the groundskeeper's request.  I could be totally wrong, of course, so I agree we should follow the rule.  Ft. Rosecrans is a very special place for birding, walking, or reflection.  

I carry a small Lumix point & shoot camera when I bird, which I use to take photos of birds I cannot identify.  I use the photos to figure out the identification at home.  I had a groundskeeper ask me why I was in the cemetery, and what I planned to photograph.  When I explained the binocs & the camera are for birding, he told me I could photograph the birds, but photographing the soldiers' name & information on the headstones is not allowed unless the deceased is a family member.  On a later visit, I had a groundskeeper approach me and tell me that photographs are strictly forbidden in the cemetery, and I could leave or put the camera in my car and continue birding. 

Best,
Susie

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:07 AM Brian Dooley via Groups.Io <bbirddooley@...> wrote:
Hey all, I was birding fort Rosecrans this morning and I was asked by a grounds worker to leave because there's apparently a new rule there that states birders aren't allowed on the cemetery grounds from 8 to 11am. I don't know the rest of the details on this new rule, but it's probably best to respect this rule until someone else can figure out what else this rule states.
Happy birding
Brian (BJ) Dooley


 


Black-and-white Warbler in Encinitas

Steve Cameron
 

In my yard in Encinitas this morning at about 11 am a Black-and-white Warbler was foraging along the trunk and heavier branches of a coast live oak tree.  Also in the same tree were 2 Townsend's Warblers, 2 Orange-crowned Warblers, and a Ruby-crowned Kinglet. Plus a Hermit Thrush was calling from a concealed location nearby.
--
Steve Cameron
Encinitas


Cardiff Palm Warbler

Richard Trissel
 

Hello.  At 2:30 this afternoon there was a drab PALM WARBLER at the NW corner of Dean and Lahoud.  It was present for at least 20 minutes bobbing it's tail incessantly as it fed on the lawn.

Good Birding,

Rich Trissel
Cardiff


CBRC Documentation

Guy McCaskie
 

Since Little Stint, Tricolored Heron, Thick-billed Kingbird and Grace’s Warbler are California Bird Records Committee (CBRC) review species, I ask that all those seeing/photographing the Little Stint and Tricolored Heron on south San Diego Bay, the Thick-billed Kingbird in Chula Vista, the Grace’s Warblers at two locations in La Jolla and the third in Encinitas this fall/early winter consider sending documentation to Thomas A, Benson, Secretary for the CBRC at  tbenson@.... To learn about the CBRC go to  www.californiabirds.org

Thank you,

Guy McCaskie

 

 


results of mon 11 nov san elijo monthly bird count

Robert Patton
 

Thanks to 15 participants for conducting the 11 November 2019 San Elijo Lagoon monthly bird count: Steve Brad (beach/offshore, west basin, Nature Center site); Kathy Knight, Elizabeth Venrick (W central basin pole rd/NW of Rios); Jayne Lesley, Don Johnson, Dealah Abdullah, Jaylin Evancik, Jake Linscheid (S central basin Rios to I-5); Kathy Aldern, Maryanne Bache, Dave Carey, Patti Koger (S east basin El Camino to Sta Inez); Thomas Myers, Steve Perry (Stonebridge mesa); Robert Patton (N east basin, Escondido Cr, Cardiff Cove).

105 species were reported.  Notable sightings included a female hooded merganser NW of Rios Ave, a late-lingering barn swallow north of Sta Inez and rough-winged swallow over the eastern mesa.

Species included:  red-throated loon, Pacific loon, common loon, pied-billed grebe, western grebe, Clark’s grebe, brown pelican, double-crested cormorant, great blue heron, great egret, snowy egret, green-winged teal, mallard, northern pintail, gadwall, American wigeon, lesser scaup, surf scoter, bufflehead, hooded merganser, ruddy duck, turkey vulture, osprey, white-tailed kite, northern harrier, sharp-shinned hawk, Cooper’s hawk, red-shouldered hawk, red-tailed hawk, American kestrel, peregrine falcon, California quail, Ridgway’s rail, sora, American coot, black-bellied plover, snowy plover, semipalmated plover, killdeer, greater yellowlegs, willet, whimbrel, long-billed curlew, sanderling, western sandpiper, least sandpiper, dunlin, dowitcher sp., Heermann’s gull, ring-billed gull, California gull, western gull, royal tern, rock pigeon, Eurasian collared-dove, mourning dove, great horned owl,  Anna’s hummingbird, Allen’s hummingbird, rufous/Allen’s hummingbird sp., belted kingfisher, Nuttall’s woodpecker, downy woodpecker, northern flicker, black phoebe, Say’s phoebe, Cassin’s kingbird, tree swallow, northern rough-winged swallow, barn swallow, California scrub jay, American crow, common raven, bushtit, Bewick’s wren, house wren, marsh wren, ruby-crowned kinglet, blue-gray gnatcatcher, California gnatcatcher, western bluebird, hermit thrush, wrentit, northern mockingbird, California thrasher, American pipit, European starling, Hutton’s vireo, orange-crowned warbler, yellow-rumped warbler, Townsend’s warbler, common yellowthroat, spotted towhee, California towhee, Belding’s savannah sparrow, migrant savannah sparrow, song sparrow, Lincoln’s sparrow, white-crowned sparrow, red-winged blackbird, western meadowlark, great-tailed grackle, house finch, lesser goldfinch, house sparrow, scaly-breasted munia.

The next San Elijo monthly bird count will be Monday 9 December.  Counts are conducted by volunteers on the second Monday of each month, rain or shine.  Please spread the word or join us if you can (no RSVP required).  Meet at 7:30 am at the north end of Rios Ave in Solana Beach (north from Lomas Santa Fe Dr, west of I-5) to divide into groups to cover different subareas.  A compilation generally follows around noon at the nature center on Manchester Ave (bring your own lunch).
R. Patton
San Diego, CA


Fiesta Island (nothing of note)

Kerry Ross
 

I went out to Fiesta Island this morning to try to relocate the Siberian Pipit with no luck.

Keers

Kerry Ross
Bay Park


Re: New fort Rosecrans rule

Susan Smith
 

Thanks to BJ and Susan for posting this information.  It is sad that birding is no longer allowed during much of the day at FRNC.  Assume this includes Sundays as well, when there are no services.  Palomar Audubon posts  guidelines for birding the cemetery at http://palomaraudubon.org/birding/websites/rosecrans/ .  Everyone should especially note the reason for the 2019 change concerning hours,  given by the Director  of FRNC/Miramar cemetery complex, Rex Kern, under the 'new' rules dated January 9, 2019.    Perhaps this should be posted officially on this listserve and on the SDFO website to alert birders who are still unaware of this new rule, especially visiting birders who may have travelled far to bird the cemetery.   

Susan Smith 
Seiurus Biological  Consulting 
Del Mar, CA 
seiurus@...


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From: Susie Amundson <susieamund@...>
To: bbirddooley <bbirddooley@...>
Cc: SanDiegoRegionBirding <SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Nov 10, 2019 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] New fort Rosecrans rule

Hi Brian,

Out of curiosity, I checked the cemetery schedule for 11/4.  There was a burial at 10:30, which I assume is the reason for the groundskeeper's request.  I could be totally wrong, of course, so I agree we should follow the rule.  Ft. Rosecrans is a very special place for birding, walking, or reflection.  

I carry a small Lumix point & shoot camera when I bird, which I use to take photos of birds I cannot identify.  I use the photos to figure out the identification at home.  I had a groundskeeper ask me why I was in the cemetery, and what I planned to photograph.  When I explained the binocs & the camera are for birding, he told me I could photograph the birds, but photographing the soldiers' name & information on the headstones is not allowed unless the deceased is a family member.  On a later visit, I had a groundskeeper approach me and tell me that photographs are strictly forbidden in the cemetery, and I could leave or put the camera in my car and continue birding. 

Best,
Susie

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:07 AM Brian Dooley via Groups.Io <bbirddooley=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey all, I was birding fort Rosecrans this morning and I was asked by a grounds worker to leave because there's apparently a new rule there that states birders aren't allowed on the cemetery grounds from 8 to 11am. I don't know the rest of the details on this new rule, but it's probably best to respect this rule until someone else can figure out what else this rule states.
Happy birding
Brian (BJ) Dooley


 

--
Susan Smith
Seiurus Biological Consulting
Del Mar, CA


Re: New fort Rosecrans rule

Susie Amundson
 

Hi Brian,

Out of curiosity, I checked the cemetery schedule for 11/4.  There was a burial at 10:30, which I assume is the reason for the groundskeeper's request.  I could be totally wrong, of course, so I agree we should follow the rule.  Ft. Rosecrans is a very special place for birding, walking, or reflection.  

I carry a small Lumix point & shoot camera when I bird, which I use to take photos of birds I cannot identify.  I use the photos to figure out the identification at home.  I had a groundskeeper ask me why I was in the cemetery, and what I planned to photograph.  When I explained the binocs & the camera are for birding, he told me I could photograph the birds, but photographing the soldiers' name & information on the headstones is not allowed unless the deceased is a family member.  On a later visit, I had a groundskeeper approach me and tell me that photographs are strictly forbidden in the cemetery, and I could leave or put the camera in my car and continue birding. 

Best,
Susie


On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:07 AM Brian Dooley via Groups.Io <bbirddooley=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey all, I was birding fort Rosecrans this morning and I was asked by a grounds worker to leave because there's apparently a new rule there that states birders aren't allowed on the cemetery grounds from 8 to 11am. I don't know the rest of the details on this new rule, but it's probably best to respect this rule until someone else can figure out what else this rule states.
Happy birding
Brian (BJ) Dooley


 

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