Date   

next san elijo monthly bird count mon 9 sep

Robert Patton
 

The next San Elijo monthly bird count will be Monday 9 September.  Counts are conducted by volunteers on the second Monday of each month, rain or shine.  Please spread the word or join us if you can (no RSVP required).  Meet at 7:30 am at the north end of Rios Ave in Solana Beach (north from Lomas Santa Fe Dr, west of I-5) to divide into groups to cover different subareas.  A compilation generally follows around noon at the nature center on Manchester Ave (bring your own lunch).

Thanks,
R. Patton
San Diego, CA


Re: Saw-whet Owl?

phil Pryde
 

Hi Geoff, Nathan, Bruce, Dan, Gary, and everyone, 
       Thanks for all of your interesting input.  Collectively all the input tells me there’s a simple answer to my original question, which was, “Did anyone else hear, or thought they heard, a Saw-whet Owl near the Crossbill site?” 
       The simple one-word answer seems to be, “no”. 
       So I’m happy to leave it at that, namely:   maybe  I heard a SWOW along the lower Agua Dulce trail. Or maybe not.  Or maybe someone will get a chance to tape the mystery call.  Or maybe the critter will send me a selfie. 
       At least I saw my FOS butter-butt, and a female selasphorus.   Whoopee. 
       Happy birding to all, and remember, you never saw a bird that didn’t see you first.  
Phil





On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Geoff Rogers <rogersgl1952@...> wrote:

Yes, all 3 are up there: chipmunk, ground squirrel, and owl. 
 
 
Geoffrey Rogers
San Diego, CA
 
From: Bruce Rideout [mailto:BRideout@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:20 PM
To: phil Pryde <PhilPinSD@...>
Cc: Geoff Rogers <rogersgl1952@...>
Subject: Re: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] Saw-whet Owl?
 

Phil: It turned out the recording I was thinking of is a ground squirrel, which still sounds very similar, just slightly higher pitched. In my experience, these squirrel and chipmunk calls can carry quite a distance and pick up reverberations along the way that make them sound very un-chipmunk like. 

Bruce 


On Sep 4, 2019, at 9:39 AM, phil Pryde <PhilPinSD@...> wrote:

Hi Geoff,  
       My “one second” interval was entirely a spur of the moment estimate - the calls were very quickly repeated and could easily have been less than a second.  But I won’t rule out chipmunk, either, except to say that the call seemed to be coming from a fair distance away, and if it was a chipmunk he would have needed a good set of lungs.  Do you have a recording of whatever sp. of chipmunk would have been up there? 
      Best, Phil 
 


On Sep 4, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Geoff Rogers <rogersgl1952@...> wrote:
 
Phil and all,
 
Not ruling saw-whet owl out but Birds of North America Online says calling speed is “about 2 per second.” I can vouch that an agitated saw-whet will briefly produce notes even faster. I think a speed nearing a second apart would be more in the Merriam’s Chipmunk range. 
 
Geoffrey Rogers
San Diego, CA
 
From: SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io [mailto:SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io] On Behalf Of phil Pryde
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 10:17 PM
To: sandiegoregionbirding@groups.io
Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] Saw-whet Owl?
 
This morning (Tues.), while looking for the mythological Red Crossbill (aka the toilet paper bird), I heard at a distance an incessant call that seemed to meet the requirements for a Saw-whet Owl.  The loud sharp notes, a whistled sup, sup, sup . . . , were about a second apart, and went on and on and on . . .   
 
The Bird Atlas notes that it calls “rarely even at midday”.  I’d estimate it was about 9:30 a.m. when I heard it while at the toilet paper site. That would be near the southernmost portion of its regular range.  
 
Just wondering, if any one else who was up there looking for easily spotted wildlife (such as Bigfoot, Jimmy Hoffa, and purported Crossbills) also heard anything they suspected of being a Saw-whet Owl? 
 
 
 



Re: Saw-whet Owl?

Geoffrey L. Rogers
 

Hi Phil,

A recording of Merriam's is at   http://earbirding.com/blog/archives/454  It is the most likely species here. The speed does pick up at the end but the quality is not as penetrating and a bit lower-pitched than a saw-whet. I agree it would not carry as well as a saw-whet's call. 

At https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347276800401 there is a paper in the journal Animal Behavior on chipmunk calls but it requires $35 more than I care to spend. 

Geoff


On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:39 AM phil Pryde <philpinsd@...> wrote:
Hi Geoff, 
       My “one second” interval was entirely a spur of the moment estimate - the calls were very quickly repeated and could easily have been less than a second.  But I won’t rule out chipmunk, either, except to say that the call seemed to be coming from a fair distance away, and if it was a chipmunk he would have needed a good set of lungs.  Do you have a recording of whatever sp. of chipmunk would have been up there? 
      Best, Phil 


On Sep 4, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Geoff Rogers <rogersgl1952@...> wrote:

Phil and all,
 
Not ruling saw-whet owl out but Birds of North America Online says calling speed is “about 2 per second.” I can vouch that an agitated saw-whet will briefly produce notes even faster. I think a speed nearing a second apart would be more in the Merriam’s Chipmunk range. 
 
Geoffrey Rogers
San Diego, CA
 
From: SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io [mailto:SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io] On Behalf Of phil Pryde
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 10:17 PM
To: sandiegoregionbirding@groups.io
Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] Saw-whet Owl?
 
This morning (Tues.), while looking for the mythological Red Crossbill (aka the toilet paper bird), I heard at a distance an incessant call that seemed to meet the requirements for a Saw-whet Owl.  The loud sharp notes, a whistled sup, sup, sup . . . , were about a second apart, and went on and on and on . . .   
 
The Bird Atlas notes that it calls “rarely even at midday”.  I’d estimate it was about 9:30 a.m. when I heard it while at the toilet paper site. That would be near the southernmost portion of its regular range.  
 
Just wondering, if any one else who was up there looking for easily spotted wildlife (such as Bigfoot, Jimmy Hoffa, and purported Crossbills) also heard anything they suspected of being a Saw-whet Owl? 
 



Re: Saw-whet Owl?

phil Pryde
 

Hi Geoff, 
       My “one second” interval was entirely a spur of the moment estimate - the calls were very quickly repeated and could easily have been less than a second.  But I won’t rule out chipmunk, either, except to say that the call seemed to be coming from a fair distance away, and if it was a chipmunk he would have needed a good set of lungs.  Do you have a recording of whatever sp. of chipmunk would have been up there? 
      Best, Phil 


On Sep 4, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Geoff Rogers <rogersgl1952@...> wrote:

Phil and all,
 
Not ruling saw-whet owl out but Birds of North America Online says calling speed is “about 2 per second.” I can vouch that an agitated saw-whet will briefly produce notes even faster. I think a speed nearing a second apart would be more in the Merriam’s Chipmunk range. 
 
Geoffrey Rogers
San Diego, CA
 
From: SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io [mailto:SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io] On Behalf Of phil Pryde
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 10:17 PM
To: sandiegoregionbirding@groups.io
Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] Saw-whet Owl?
 
This morning (Tues.), while looking for the mythological Red Crossbill (aka the toilet paper bird), I heard at a distance an incessant call that seemed to meet the requirements for a Saw-whet Owl.  The loud sharp notes, a whistled sup, sup, sup . . . , were about a second apart, and went on and on and on . . .   
 
The Bird Atlas notes that it calls “rarely even at midday”.  I’d estimate it was about 9:30 a.m. when I heard it while at the toilet paper site. That would be near the southernmost portion of its regular range.  
 
Just wondering, if any one else who was up there looking for easily spotted wildlife (such as Bigfoot, Jimmy Hoffa, and purported Crossbills) also heard anything they suspected of being a Saw-whet Owl? 
 



Re: Saw-whet Owl?

Geoffrey L. Rogers
 

Phil and all,

 

Not ruling saw-whet owl out but Birds of North America Online says calling speed is “about 2 per second.” I can vouch that an agitated saw-whet will briefly produce notes even faster. I think a speed nearing a second apart would be more in the Merriam’s Chipmunk range.

 

Geoffrey Rogers

San Diego, CA

 

From: SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io [mailto:SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io] On Behalf Of phil Pryde
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 10:17 PM
To: sandiegoregionbirding@groups.io
Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] Saw-whet Owl?

 

This morning (Tues.), while looking for the mythological Red Crossbill (aka the toilet paper bird), I heard at a distance an incessant call that seemed to meet the requirements for a Saw-whet Owl.  The loud sharp notes, a whistled sup, sup, sup . . . , were about a second apart, and went on and on and on . . .   

 

The Bird Atlas notes that it calls “rarely even at midday”.  I’d estimate it was about 9:30 a.m. when I heard it while at the toilet paper site. That would be near the southernmost portion of its regular range.  

 

Just wondering, if any one else who was up there looking for easily spotted wildlife (such as Bigfoot, Jimmy Hoffa, and purported Crossbills) also heard anything they suspected of being a Saw-whet Owl? 

 


Re: Saw-whet Owl?

phil Pryde
 

     Sorry about the ambiguity in my email of last evening - I was mainly reaching out to those who had already gone to “the spot” to look for the Crossbills, which is about 1 1/2 miles down the Agua Dulce trail, as described in Gary Nunn’s email of Sept. 2, and other earlier reports.  
     For those who haven’t tried to see the Crossbills, the joke was that some considerate person had tied a string of (yes, unused) toilet paper to a fallen branch to mark the spot where the Crossibills had been most reliably seen (except yesterday).  I didn’t see a Bigfoot, either.  
    Phil 


On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:19 PM, KRIS MCMILLAN <krismcmillan@...> wrote:

You’re a million steps ahead of me, but, I’m wondering WHERE were you when you heard all these magical mysterious sounds?


On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:16 PM, phil Pryde <PhilPinSD@...> wrote:

This morning (Tues.), while looking for the mythological Red Crossbill (aka the toilet paper bird), I heard at a distance an incessant call that seemed to meet the requirements for a Saw-whet Owl.  The loud sharp notes, a whistled sup, sup, sup . . . , were about a second apart, and went on and on and on . . .   

The Bird Atlas notes that it calls “rarely even at midday”.  I’d estimate it was about 9:30 a.m. when I heard it while at the toilet paper site. That would be near the southernmost portion of its regular range.  
 
Just wondering, if any one else who was up there looking for easily spotted wildlife (such as Bigfoot, Jimmy Hoffa, and purported Crossbills) also heard anything they suspected of being a Saw-whet Owl? 




Saw-whet Owl?

phil Pryde
 

This morning (Tues.), while looking for the mythological Red Crossbill (aka the toilet paper bird), I heard at a distance an incessant call that seemed to meet the requirements for a Saw-whet Owl.  The loud sharp notes, a whistled sup, sup, sup . . . , were about a second apart, and went on and on and on . . .   

The Bird Atlas notes that it calls “rarely even at midday”.  I’d estimate it was about 9:30 a.m. when I heard it while at the toilet paper site. That would be near the southernmost portion of its regular range.  
 
Just wondering, if any one else who was up there looking for easily spotted wildlife (such as Bigfoot, Jimmy Hoffa, and purported Crossbills) also heard anything they suspected of being a Saw-whet Owl? 


Agua Dulce Creek trail, Lagunas – Red Crossbills etc., 02 September 2019

Gary Nunn
 

Took a really nice walk along Agua Dulce Creek in the Lagunas this morning 7:30--11:00 AM seeing many birds particularly at the visible water sources.  Almost a continuous parade of resident and migrant species with lots of close looks at warblers.  Highly recommended!

Immediately encountered two RED CROSSBILL at the upper end of the creek, above or uphill from the little pump station, and then later on down the creek at the "regular" spot saw another 4-6 exit the water source as we approached, then 30 minutes later 7-8 come down to the same area, noted by other birders with downed logs over the creek.  At this spot had 7 together in view at one time many sitting in the open on dead twigs over the creek bed.  This was at 9:30 AM.  Nice photography opportunities.  Recorded some calls too, so far they all sound the same, to my ear, as pair I recorded last weekend, "type 2" or Ponderosa Pine type.  Sonogram confirmed the calls here at home later.

--
Gary Nunn
Pacific Beach


FW: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] Salton Sea

Guy McCaskie
 

Place taken,

 

Thank you,

 

Guy McCaskie

 

From: SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io [mailto:SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io] On Behalf Of Guy McCaskie
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 4:00 PM
To: SanDiegoRegionBirding@groups.io
Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] Salton Sea

 

I will be spending Wednesday 4 September birding around the south end of the Salton Sea. I expect HOT weather. Should anyone be foolish enough to want to join me, call me at 858-688-5239.

 

Guy McCaskie


Salton Sea

Guy McCaskie
 

I will be spending Wednesday 4 September birding around the south end of the Salton Sea. I expect HOT weather. Should anyone be foolish enough to want to join me, call me at 858-688-5239.

 

Guy McCaskie


Black-and-white Warbler at William Heise County Park

Nicole Desnoyers
 

This morning, 1 September, Autumn Turner and I observed a Black-and-white Warbler on the Cedar Loop trail at William Heise County Park. The birding was fairly slow otherwise.

Nicole Desnoyers
North Park


Re: [birdingSanDiego] Update on Red Crossbills at Agua Dulce Creek

Nancy Christensen
 

I told Mel at the time that I estimated a group of six at least were in the area. I could not account for the calls coming from areas we had not seen birds flying, and the various photos indicate multiple individuals. Glad you were able to confirm that!


On Sep 1, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Lisa Ruby <lruby1@...> wrote:

Sorry for the rather verbose post. Hopefully someone will find at least some of it helpful.

Went out to Agua Dulce today to look for the Red Crossbills with Terry Hurst and Charles Jackson. Ran into a couple from the east coast who joined us, we picked up two other birders along the way,  and later met up with Jan Nordenberg and Paula Theobold at the Crossbill location. After looking carefully through my photos I think we may have seen 5 Crossbills. Links to photos at the bottom of this post. To see them all you need to go to my site. Couldn't fit them all in eBird. 

The location to find them has moved from where Nancy Christensen described. The puddle in that spot has dried up. Today they were probably where I think Tuck found the one he saw yesterday. Upstream (south) from the Y junction. There is still water where we saw them and the Y junction is not visible from there. There are two good sized logs that span the creek in the new spot, and the piece of toilet paper that was used as a marker has now been moved to this new location. It's close to the ground on the creek side. See Nancy's post for directions on getting to the Y junction. New location is just a little before the Y becomes visible. Nancy's post: https://tinyurl.com/yy9v383e

Two Crossbills were first seen around 9:30 a.m. by two of the group, while the rest of us waited at Nancy's location. The rest of us then moved to the upstream location around 9:45 am. The first two (now I think three) we saw after 9:45 came down by the creek between 10:09 and 10:11. I think I may have been the only one who saw (and photographed) one of these birds. We saw two fly up into some trees on the other side of the trail. At about 10:30 two more came down.

It was quite birdy overall along the trails. We did not take the main way down to the pump house. We took a narrow trail through the meadow. We had a total of 6 Cassin's Vireos, several Wilson's, a few Nashville, a few Townsend's, a couple of Black-throated Gray, a couple of Hermit, and a few Orange-crowned Warblers. There were multiple Brown Creepers. I saw two, the rest were heard. We had a few Western Tanagers and a few Black-headed Grosbeaks. The area is crawling with Mountain Chickadees and Pygmy and White-breasted Nuthatches. We also had what appeared to be a slightly leucistic Rufous/Allen's Hummingbird. It has a white forehead.

eBird list with photos, but not all the Crossbill photos are here:
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S59438584

Rest of the Crossbill photos with time photographed in title here:
https://tinyurl.com/y4ego2w9


Lisa Ruby
Sabre Springs


Update on Red Crossbills at Agua Dulce Creek

Lisa Ruby
 

Sorry for the rather verbose post. Hopefully someone will find at least some of it helpful.

Went out to Agua Dulce today to look for the Red Crossbills with Terry Hurst and Charles Jackson. Ran into a couple from the east coast who joined us, we picked up two other birders along the way,  and later met up with Jan Nordenberg and Paula Theobold at the Crossbill location. After looking carefully through my photos I think we may have seen 5 Crossbills. Links to photos at the bottom of this post. To see them all you need to go to my site. Couldn't fit them all in eBird. 

The location to find them has moved from where Nancy Christensen described. The puddle in that spot has dried up. Today they were probably where I think Tuck found the one he saw yesterday. Upstream (south) from the Y junction. There is still water where we saw them and the Y junction is not visible from there. There are two good sized logs that span the creek in the new spot, and the piece of toilet paper that was used as a marker has now been moved to this new location. It's close to the ground on the creek side. See Nancy's post for directions on getting to the Y junction. New location is just a little before the Y becomes visible. Nancy's post: https://tinyurl.com/yy9v383e

Two Crossbills were first seen around 9:30 a.m. by two of the group, while the rest of us waited at Nancy's location. The rest of us then moved to the upstream location around 9:45 am. The first two (now I think three) we saw after 9:45 came down by the creek between 10:09 and 10:11. I think I may have been the only one who saw (and photographed) one of these birds. We saw two fly up into some trees on the other side of the trail. At about 10:30 two more came down.

It was quite birdy overall along the trails. We did not take the main way down to the pump house. We took a narrow trail through the meadow. We had a total of 6 Cassin's Vireos, several Wilson's, a few Nashville, a few Townsend's, a couple of Black-throated Gray, a couple of Hermit, and a few Orange-crowned Warblers. There were multiple Brown Creepers. I saw two, the rest were heard. We had a few Western Tanagers and a few Black-headed Grosbeaks. The area is crawling with Mountain Chickadees and Pygmy and White-breasted Nuthatches. We also had what appeared to be a slightly leucistic Rufous/Allen's Hummingbird. It has a white forehead.

eBird list with photos, but not all the Crossbill photos are here:
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S59438584

Rest of the Crossbill photos with time photographed in title here:
https://tinyurl.com/y4ego2w9


Lisa Ruby
Sabre Springs

--
Lisa Ruby
Sabre Springs


Re: Painted Bunting; FRNC 1 SEP 2019

Tito Gonzalez
 

Here are photos of female-type PAINTED BUNTING in Ebird report.

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S59438626


Tito Gonzalez
Carlsbad, CA


Painted Bunting; FRNC 1 SEP 2019

Tito Gonzalez
 

I observed and photographed an apparent drab female-type PAINTED BUNTING at FRNC around 9:15 AM. It was found at the 2nd to last most SW corner, roughly in line where road starts to loop. Will post photos when I have a chance.

Tito Gonzalez 
Carlsbad, CA


Re: FRNC - Canada Warbler, 31 Aug 2019

Mark Stratton
 

just a quick note that as of 4:45 PM the Canada warbler was back in the pines on the west side that line the entrance road.

Mark Stratton Northpark

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 2:23 PM Lisa Ruby <lruby1@...> wrote:
The Canada Warbler continued to make hyper, sporadic appearances in the
Ficus trees next to the Committal Shelter on the east side of the
cemetery up until at least noon on Saturday the 31st. It was also seen
again for a short period sometime between noon and 12:30 or so in the
pines across the street. It would disappear from view for 10 to 15
minutes at a time (maybe moved to other Ficus or pines across the road)
and then reappear. Helps to have multiple sets of eyes looking for it.

Lisa Ruby
Sabre Springs

On 8/31/2019 9:05 AM, Gary Nunn wrote:
> Canada Warbler at Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery in Ficus trees next to the Committal Shelter on east side.
>
> 9am 31 Aug 2019
>
> Gary Nunn
>
>
>
>



--
Lisa Ruby
Sabre Springs




Re: FRNC - Canada Warbler, 31 Aug 2019

Lisa Ruby
 

The Canada Warbler continued to make hyper, sporadic appearances in the Ficus trees next to the Committal Shelter on the east side of the cemetery up until at least noon on Saturday the 31st. It was also seen again for a short period sometime between noon and 12:30 or so in the pines across the street. It would disappear from view for 10 to 15 minutes at a time (maybe moved to other Ficus or pines across the road) and then reappear. Helps to have multiple sets of eyes looking for it.

Lisa Ruby
Sabre Springs

On 8/31/2019 9:05 AM, Gary Nunn wrote:
Canada Warbler at Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery in Ficus trees next to the Committal Shelter on east side.

9am 31 Aug 2019

Gary Nunn


--
Lisa Ruby
Sabre Springs


Canada warbler

Alison Hiers
 

Still here at FRNC right of the hut in the double pines ( sprawling low ones)

Alison


a correction to my report yesterday of a Nazca booby on North Island

Stan Walens
 

Yesterday I reported a Nazca booby sitting with gulls on the North Island Ammunition Pier in San Diego Bay.
I assumed it was the same bird that was photographed sprawled on the adjacent beach area on August 26.

However, Marilyn Dudley wrote to tell me that that distressed bird had been rescued on Tuesday by Seaworld, but was too emaciated and dehydrated to survive.

So the bird I saw was a different individual.
And I, coming off a long and very choppy trip and thinking about little else except getting back to the solidity of land, did not look at it carefully enough to determine if it was a Masked or a Nazca.

So, change the observation to the undetermined category, Masked/Nazca booby.

Stan Walens, San Diego
August 31, 2019; 2:05 pm


Cabrillo Tide Pools - apparent Masked Booby, 31 Aug 2019

Gary Nunn
 

While quite a large number of people looking for frazari American Oystercatcher at Cabrillo NM this morning, no sign of that bird, an apparent adult Masked Booby flew by quite close to shore north-to-south. The bill looked greenish and tail appearance a blackish narrow belt around tail tip so looks pretty good we thought for Masked Booby.

There are some photos taken we will take a closer inspection later.

Called out I believe by Dan Jehl - thanks for the yell!

Gary Nunn,
Pacific Beach