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Towhee Juveniles?


Peter & Amy
 

Forgive my not having a picture. In my yard in the St. Mary’s Park area I have a pair of birds which I cannot identify. They are the size and shape of CA Towhees and are acting exactly like the Towhee I am used to seeing in my backyard, staying on the ground and engaging in lots of digging and scratching.

But their plumage doesn’t match up. One is the grey/brown I expect in a Towhee but no peachy area underneath and the breast is entirely striped. The other is lighter brown and striped top and bottom. They are hanging closely together.

Is there anything other than a Towhee that these might be or might they be juveniles? Or is it more likely that I’m seeing Pacific Fox Sparrows which I’ve never seen here in the past?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Amy Kuhlmann


Marie McNulty
 

Hermit thrush perhaps.




On Monday, October 12, 2020, 3:26 PM, Peter & Amy <oshunoxt@...> wrote:

Forgive my not having a picture.  In my yard in the St. Mary’s Park area I have a pair of birds which I cannot identify.  They are the size and shape of CA Towhees and are acting exactly like the Towhee I am used to seeing in my backyard, staying on the ground and engaging in lots of digging and scratching.

But their plumage doesn’t match up.  One is the grey/brown I expect in a Towhee but no peachy area underneath and the breast is entirely striped. The other is lighter brown and striped top and bottom.  They are hanging closely together.

Is there anything other than a Towhee that these might be or might they be juveniles?  Or is it more likely that I’m seeing Pacific Fox Sparrows which I’ve never seen here in the past?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Amy Kuhlmann





Andrew R
 

Interesting. I also saw a bird of that description yesterday in my backyard for the first time, and thought it was a pac fox sparrow. Maybe hermit thrush is a better match. I have a mediocre photo


On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:33 PM Marie McNulty via groups.io <salviavian=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hermit thrush perhaps.




On Monday, October 12, 2020, 3:26 PM, Peter & Amy <oshunoxt@...> wrote:

Forgive my not having a picture.  In my yard in the St. Mary’s Park area I have a pair of birds which I cannot identify.  They are the size and shape of CA Towhees and are acting exactly like the Towhee I am used to seeing in my backyard, staying on the ground and engaging in lots of digging and scratching.

But their plumage doesn’t match up.  One is the grey/brown I expect in a Towhee but no peachy area underneath and the breast is entirely striped. The other is lighter brown and striped top and bottom.  They are hanging closely together.

Is there anything other than a Towhee that these might be or might they be juveniles?  Or is it more likely that I’m seeing Pacific Fox Sparrows which I’ve never seen here in the past?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Amy Kuhlmann





 

That’s a fox sparrow.


On Oct 13, 2020, at 08:49, Andrew R <reckersandrew@...> wrote:


Interesting. I also saw a bird of that description yesterday in my backyard for the first time, and thought it was a pac fox sparrow. Maybe hermit thrush is a better match. I have a mediocre photo

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:33 PM Marie McNulty via groups.io <salviavian=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hermit thrush perhaps.




On Monday, October 12, 2020, 3:26 PM, Peter & Amy <oshunoxt@...> wrote:

Forgive my not having a picture.  In my yard in the St. Mary’s Park area I have a pair of birds which I cannot identify.  They are the size and shape of CA Towhees and are acting exactly like the Towhee I am used to seeing in my backyard, staying on the ground and engaging in lots of digging and scratching.

But their plumage doesn’t match up.  One is the grey/brown I expect in a Towhee but no peachy area underneath and the breast is entirely striped. The other is lighter brown and striped top and bottom.  They are hanging closely together.

Is there anything other than a Towhee that these might be or might they be juveniles?  Or is it more likely that I’m seeing Pacific Fox Sparrows which I’ve never seen here in the past?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Amy Kuhlmann




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Peter & Amy
 

Pretty sure that’s what I saw too.  New for my backyard.  Thanks.

Amy

On Oct 13, 2020, at 8:55 AM, dominikmosur@... wrote:

That’s a fox sparrow.


On Oct 13, 2020, at 08:49, Andrew R <reckersandrew@...> wrote:


Interesting. I also saw a bird of that description yesterday in my backyard for the first time, and thought it was a pac fox sparrow. Maybe hermit thrush is a better match. I have a mediocre photo

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:33 PM Marie McNulty via groups.io <salviavian=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hermit thrush perhaps.




On Monday, October 12, 2020, 3:26 PM, Peter & Amy <oshunoxt@...> wrote:

Forgive my not having a picture.  In my yard in the St. Mary’s Park area I have a pair of birds which I cannot identify.  They are the size and shape of CA Towhees and are acting exactly like the Towhee I am used to seeing in my backyard, staying on the ground and engaging in lots of digging and scratching.

But their plumage doesn’t match up.  One is the grey/brown I expect in a Towhee but no peachy area underneath and the breast is entirely striped. The other is lighter brown and striped top and bottom.  They are hanging closely together.

Is there anything other than a Towhee that these might be or might they be juveniles?  Or is it more likely that I’m seeing Pacific Fox Sparrows which I’ve never seen here in the past?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Amy Kuhlmann




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Sally M. Walters
 

Nice! The bill among other things makes it the sparrow, and not the thrush.  The breast mostly hidden but what is shown are the distinctive teepee shapes of the brown feathers against white.  I was fooled at first. 
Thanks.


Sally M Walters



On Oct 13, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Peter & Amy <oshunoxt@...> wrote:

Pretty sure that’s what I saw too.  New for my backyard.  Thanks.

Amy

On Oct 13, 2020, at 8:55 AM, dominikmosur@... wrote:

That’s a fox sparrow.


On Oct 13, 2020, at 08:49, Andrew R <reckersandrew@...> wrote:


Interesting. I also saw a bird of that description yesterday in my backyard for the first time, and thought it was a pac fox sparrow. Maybe hermit thrush is a better match. I have a mediocre photo

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:33 PM Marie McNulty via groups.io <salviavian=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hermit thrush perhaps.




On Monday, October 12, 2020, 3:26 PM, Peter & Amy <oshunoxt@...> wrote:

Forgive my not having a picture.  In my yard in the St. Mary’s Park area I have a pair of birds which I cannot identify.  They are the size and shape of CA Towhees and are acting exactly like the Towhee I am used to seeing in my backyard, staying on the ground and engaging in lots of digging and scratching.

But their plumage doesn’t match up.  One is the grey/brown I expect in a Towhee but no peachy area underneath and the breast is entirely striped. The other is lighter brown and striped top and bottom.  They are hanging closely together.

Is there anything other than a Towhee that these might be or might they be juveniles?  Or is it more likely that I’m seeing Pacific Fox Sparrows which I’ve never seen here in the past?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Amy Kuhlmann






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