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Fw: Pelicans, foxes and Pt counts

Paul Saraceni <Paul.Saraceni@...>
 

This morning (6:40-7:50) I observed 3 P-s. Flycatchers at Mt. D. One was
calling from the euc. woods on the south side of the summit and 2 were
chasing each other about the Ravine.

Also on the late-ish side were a calling W. Wood-Pewee and singing W.
Tanager and B-h. Grosbeak (the latter singing at the same time as the R-b.
Grosbeak).

Paul

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Cc: Jay Withgott <withgott@...>; SFBirds <sfbirds@...>
Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Pelicans, foxes and Pt counts



There was a very vocal and nesting PSFLY near Kobbe & Upton last year, my
July
bird walk group all got good looks and listens...have not checked yet this
year...I suspect most of the ones seen in spring are NOT nesting but just
passing through
last month on the flycatcher day at East Wash the PSFly there did call a
few
times though with nothing like the mindless insistence of the O/s FLy
The PSFly at Davidson this morning was silent


Re: Pelicans, foxes and Pt counts

Les Chibana <les@...>
 

At Stevens Creek Park in Santa Clara County, I photographed a Pacific-
slope Flycatcher building a nest in the space between a piece of
exfoliating bark and the trunk of a euc 10 ft. up a few years ago. I've
also seen a nest in the hollow of a root wad of a redwood about 6 ft.
above the road in Heritage Grove along Alpine Rd. in San Mateo County.
Very different habitats.

Les Chibana, Palo Alto les@...

On Wednesday, May 31, 2000, Josiah Clark <sunbittern@...> wrote:
I was surprised to learn from Tom Gardali at PRBO that Pac Slopes arent
uncommon breeders in Eucs. Go Figure, but then again the Presidios only
record is from Eucs...
keep an eye on that guy if you have the chance.


Re: The Rose-breasted Grosbeak

Luke Cole <luke@...>
 

At 10:59 AM 6/1/2000 -0700, pac_loon@... wrote:

Hi Mark:

Please excuse my ignornace, but what is UTC? Upper ? Coast
The UTC refers to several prime birding locations here in San Francisco,
which we refer to only by their initials to keep out interlopers from other
counties, particularly those to the east of us. But, since our ruse has
been discovered, I'll let you in on the secret(s):

UTC stands for:

Urban Taraval Corridor -- a little known, but surprisingly productive, spot
for House Sparrow, Starling, Brewers Blackbird and Rock Dove. You might
hear mention of the "end of the UTC," which would refer to the beach at
Taraval which can have good shorebirds like Snowy Plover.

Unnamed Trail Convergence -- this spot in the arboretum (you know, where all
those trails come together in that little dell with the trees) is great for
warblers in migration, and White-throated Sparrow in winter. Don't ask me
for a better location, it doesnt have a name.

Utterly Touristed Coast -- the north-east coast of the city, including
Fisherfolks Wharf, Pier 39, and everything through the Ferry building.
Usually to be avoided unless someone reports a Yellow-billed Loon, in which
case wading through the T-shirt vendors may be in order.

Un-trammelled Crissy -- the parts of Crissy Field that are within the big
chainlink fences, which can yield Killdeer and Says Phoebe, and are nearby
tern roosts and the occasional (but fleeting!) White Pelican.

Under Townsend Construction -- down near the new ballpark (I'm resisting
using its corporate name), at the end of Townsend Street, below the huge
cranes, are a smattering of gulls and other parking lot birds. Best to go
early on a game day.

Useless Twitchers Chatter -- never heard on this listserve, thankfully!

Now, the challenge for those of you not privy to the secrets of the city, is
to figure out just which UTC we are referring to in our posts, and which one
the RB Grosbeak frequents!

Good birding,

Luke

Luke Cole
San Francisco, CA
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Re: Pelicans, foxes and Pt counts

Mark W. Eaton <mweaton@...>
 

Dan Singer wrote:

My theory at the time was that a certain number of birds of
several different species (e.g. PSFL, BUOR, BHGR, WAVI) would set up
territories in SF but could never attract a mate because perhaps the habitat
was/is so fragmented and degraded or the birds were too young or otherwise
unsatisfactory breeding material.
I would tend to agree, although I'm pretty sure I recall seeing both sexes
of a Black-headed Grosbeak pair in Glen Canyon in '98, one of which was
carrying nesting material. I may have even found the nest, but never saw
any young (or cowbirds, for that matter), probably because I was too
engrossed in finding my next year bird. :-|

This year there are three Bullock's orioles present, including at least one
female if recollection serves me. Maybe we'll get lucky this year...

Mark

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Re: Pelicans, foxes and Pt counts

Dan Murphy <murphsf@...>
 

Dan and Mark,

Quite a number of years ago I had a Bullock's Oriole nest at the pump house at
Lake Merced on Harding Rd. This was back when the lake was higher and it was
nice a moist in there. We had a lot of vagrants in that grove then. I observed
the pair of birds and the active nest, but I don't know if they fledged young.

I suspect none of these birds are successful at nesting in SF every year, but I
suspect also that every now and then conditions are favorable and at least
Pacific-slope Flycatcher is successful. The vireos and grosebeaks may be less
likely to be successful for the reasons you suggest but also that their numbers
are generally fewers.

Dan

"Mark W. Eaton" wrote:

Dan Singer wrote:

My theory at the time was that a certain number of birds of
several different species (e.g. PSFL, BUOR, BHGR, WAVI) would set up
territories in SF but could never attract a mate because perhaps the habitat
was/is so fragmented and degraded or the birds were too young or otherwise
unsatisfactory breeding material.
I would tend to agree, although I'm pretty sure I recall seeing both sexes
of a Black-headed Grosbeak pair in Glen Canyon in '98, one of which was
carrying nesting material. I may have even found the nest, but never saw
any young (or cowbirds, for that matter), probably because I was too
engrossed in finding my next year bird. :-|

This year there are three Bullock's orioles present, including at least one
female if recollection serves me. Maybe we'll get lucky this year...

Mark

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Sat-Northern Parula

rferrick@...
 

There was a singing male Northern Parula at the west end of the Stern Grove
this afternoon (3:00PM). The bird was in the willows at the base of the hill
accessed from Wawona Ave. between 33rd and 34th. Took about 15 minutes to
locate it from when I first heard it but then got great looks for 5 minutes
or more about 10-12 feet up in the willows.

I also checked the Washes this morning between 10AM-11AM. Not much going on,
although I did hear the nasal yanking of a RB Nuthatch once in the West Wash.
The highlight of the East Wash was the diversity perched near the top of the
bare tree in the center of the Wash all at the same time (Olive Sided
Flycatcher, House Finch, American Goldfinch, Robin, Song Sparrow, and Allen's
Hummingbird).

Rich


N. Parula

Dan Murphy <murphsf@...>
 

I observed Rich's Northern Parula this morning between 10:15 and 11 at
the west end of Pine Lake. From 34th and Wawona walk down the paved
path to the willow grove and listen. The bird was on the southwest
corner of the lake in a pine and in a cypress. It spent a lot of time
in willows including those at the west end of the lake. A lot of usual
stuff was there as well. I heard a report from other birders of a
Black-headed Grosebeak at the east end of the park.

Good birding, Dan


Re: N. Parula

rferrick@...
 

Hope I didn't cause to much confusion with my Stern Grove description for the
N. Parula. It was my first time birding in that area, I asked a passer-by for
the name of the area and the person replied "Stern Grove". The Yellow Pages
map also didn' t show the Pine Lake detail for that area, but now I know. At
least the cross-streets were right.

Rich


escape from SF

Harry Fuller <harry_fuller@...>
 

I escsaped SF for half a day...birded my favorite roadside in Marin: San
Antonio, north of Novato

PS Fly
AT Fly
Bul Or family
WB Nuthatch pair
Chip Sparrow
Laz Bunt
Ac Wood
Nut Wood
V-G, Cl and Barn Sw
Am Gold
Western Bluebirds galore at new horse corral just west of the vet clinic
plus other usual riparian birds

One breeding plumage Willet with the Stilts at Las Gallinas
Cin Teal
Gadwall with ducklings
zillions of Cl Swallows
Osprey
other usual summer residents

no White Pelicans yet in usual places


Re: N. Parula

Dan Murphy <murphsf@...>
 

Hi Rich,

This came up last time we had a big year. Everyone in the neighborhood calls
the entire park "the grove". I'm still not sure where the boundary between the
parks is. I do know that Sigmund Stern Grove was donated to SF by Stern's widow
and the boundary is the boundary of that property, but it takes a map to figure
out where that boundary is. I was ripped in the past for calling Pine Lake and
even the site just west of the parking lot as being in S S Grove. You're fine
on your description. The bird was at the west end of "the grove". By the way,
watch what you say when you bird at Shipyard Rock, or is that Double Rock? :-)

Thanks Rich. It was a great bird.

Best, Dan

rferrick@... wrote:

Hope I didn't cause to much confusion with my Stern Grove description for the
N. Parula. It was my first time birding in that area, I asked a passer-by for
the name of the area and the person replied "Stern Grove". The Yellow Pages
map also didn' t show the Pine Lake detail for that area, but now I know. At
least the cross-streets were right.

Rich

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OVENBIRD

Htcotter@...
 

Hi All,
Tried to call the BBox without success at this stage but this morning I had a
calling Ovenbird at Fort Miley. This was the area just west of the Palace of
Legion of Honor above the VA Hospital. I was standing at the Picnic tables
and the bird appeared to call from the bushes between the Palace and the
trees. Could not find it and did not hear it again,
ALso present was a stunning Audubons in fill regalia singing.
Not much at the washes,
Hugh


Mon AM

rferrick@...
 

Checked a few spots this morning:

Bewick's Wren and Common Yellowthroat at the Skyline Grove.

Wilson's Warbler and Swainson's Thrush at Middle Lake.

At the East Wash, the "lowlight" was a Raven consuming 4 white, Olive-Sided Flycatcher eggs as one parent dove constantly at it but could not flush it. It took all of 30 seconds. The nest is (was) on a horizontal branch of the conifer next to the round, bare tree. Perhaps a second brood will be attempted?

Rich


Re: OVENBIRD

GASSTATION@...
 

In a message dated 6/5/00 9:40:18, Htcotter@... writes:

Tried to call the BBox without success at this stage but this morning I
had a
calling Ovenbird at Fort Miley.
I was in Pt. Reyes today, but tried for the Ovenbird from about 3:30-4:45
with no success. Maybe tomorrow? BTW Pt Reyes was not as spectacular as
yesterday, 2 RB Grosbeak and Magnolia Warbler at Lighthouse, BTGreen and No.
Parula at Nunes

Kevin McKereghan
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Strange Gull, Help!

Josiah Clark <sunbittern@...>
 

While out looking for vagrant landbirds along lands end, I took a glance down to the Sutro Baths. I was startled to see an immaculate white, largish gull. I locked up my bike and walked down for a closer look.
The primaries and tail were extremely worn, but there was not a hint of black in any of the plumage. The mantle was virtually pure white. The bill was all black as was the eye. The size and shape was daintier than the Westerns it was with. The bill did look smaller than the nearby gulls, making me think it was not a Glacaus. Some folks walked out on the cement levee causing all the gulls to fly, execept the one in question which headed toward the middle of the pond before taking a labored running take off to get airborne. THe bird had attempted to jump onto the levee earlier but failed. AS the bird took off I noticed pinkish legs. In flight from the base of the primaries and across the lower back I could see a very light buff coloration, spread across the back much in the way a bonopartes gulls back is, only lacking the bold contrast of course.
I left the gull sitting by a Western on the closest Seal Rock to the bath around 12 15. Its posture looked slimmer with slightly longer primary projection than the Western.
Could this be an Iceland Gull?!
Josiah
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Re: OVENBIRD

Harry Fuller <harry_fuller@...>
 

I also looked (and listened) for Ovenbird around 530pm...no luck. Just the
usual vocal locals, very active group of juvie Juncos. Lots of white wash under
a tree just off Clement and about twenty yuards west of 40th Ave.. Possible owl
perch there?

The Sutro Hts. RT Hawks have fledged FOUR young this year. They were perched
atop their cypress around 630pm.

Harry Fuller
www.towhee.net

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In a message dated 6/5/00 9:40:18, Htcotter@... writes:

Tried to call the BBox without success at this stage but this morning I
had a
calling Ovenbird at Fort Miley.
I was in Pt. Reyes today, but tried for the Ovenbird from about 3:30-4:45
with no success. Maybe tomorrow? BTW Pt Reyes was not as spectacular as
yesterday, 2 RB Grosbeak and Magnolia Warbler at Lighthouse, BTGreen and No.
Parula at Nunes

Kevin McKereghan
Gasstation@...

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Mt. Davidson, 06/06/00 (7:00-8:20 AM)

Paul Saraceni <Paul.Saraceni@...>
 

Nothing rare, but a mix of breeders and non-breeders.

Observations of local interest:

Band-tailed Pigeon 6
Warblers:
Orange-crowned 1
Wilson's 2
Bullock's Oriole 1
Pine Siskin 6
Lesser Goldfinch 14

Juveniles observed: B.-t. Pigeon, M. Dove, Allen's Humm., Downy Wood.,
Ch.-b. Chickadee, Bushtit, Song Sp., Wh.-cr. Sp., D.-e. Junco, H. Finch, L.
Goldfinch

Paul Saraceni
paul.saraceni@...


Re: Mt. Davidson, 06/06/00 (7:00-8:20 AM)

Harry Fuller <harry_fuller@...>
 

Just so you won't think I'm in last place because I don't care ;-)
I did search and listen for Fort Miley Ovenbird today, just locals...decided the
white wash in area is from RS Hawk perch, they have nest there
One lonely Whimbrel on Ocean Beach at Rivera Street

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Subject: [SFBirds] Mt. Davidson, 06/06/00 (7:00-8:20 AM)



Nothing rare, but a mix of breeders and non-breeders.

Observations of local interest:

Band-tailed Pigeon 6
Warblers:
Orange-crowned 1
Wilson's 2
Bullock's Oriole 1
Pine Siskin 6
Lesser Goldfinch 14

Juveniles observed: B.-t. Pigeon, M. Dove, Allen's Humm., Downy Wood.,
Ch.-b. Chickadee, Bushtit, Song Sp., Wh.-cr. Sp., D.-e. Junco, H. Finch, L.
Goldfinch

Paul Saraceni
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That gull

Josiah Clark <sunbittern@...>
 

Hey again,
Harry braught up the possibility of the gull I saw being a young GW Gull,( which I commonly see at Crissy) I want to re iterate. This bird was WHITE. It was totally striking in appearance, even from the top of Merry Way. It was like nothing I have ever seen, (perhaps only because the plumage is so worn, but still a good study)
I am writing again because Ive never heard of such a lack of interest about such a potentially rare species.
I would ask anyone around that area to take a special peek onto the rocks or into the Sutro Baths. The primaries were in such bad shape I could imagine it staying around a while.

Josiah



following is a kind message from Harry about the gull:

That kind of gull wason Ocean Beach Saturday and a similar one at Merced a week
ago...I believe all are yearling Glaucous-winged with very worn feathers...at
least the two I saw were slender but overall taller than the Westerns
nearby...black beak I believe is a key field mark in these veyr light colored
gulls, but I am not a great gullacsious birder


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Re: That gull

Mark W. Eaton <mweaton@...>
 

I agree with Harry; most of these birds are invariably very worn GWGU,
particularly if they are badly worn.

Did you see the photo of the putative ICGU in Monterey?

Mark

Josiah Clark wrote:

Hey again,
Harry braught up the possibility of the gull I saw being a young GW Gull,(
which I commonly see at Crissy) I want to re iterate. This bird was WHITE.
It was totally striking in appearance, even from the top of Merry Way. It
was like nothing I have ever seen, (perhaps only because the plumage is so
worn, but still a good study)
I am writing again because Ive never heard of such a lack of interest
about such a potentially rare species.
I would ask anyone around that area to take a special peek onto the
rocks or into the Sutro Baths. The primaries were in such bad shape I could
imagine it staying around a while.

Josiah

following is a kind message from Harry about the gull:

That kind of gull wason Ocean Beach Saturday and a similar one at Merced a
week
ago...I believe all are yearling Glaucous-winged with very worn
feathers...at
least the two I saw were slender but overall taller than the Westerns
nearby...black beak I believe is a key field mark in these veyr light
colored
gulls, but I am not a great gullacsious birder

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FW: That gull

Stephen J. Davies <sdavies@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen J. Davies [mailto:sdavies@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 1:38 PM
To: Josiah Clark
Cc: Sfbirds
Subject: RE: [SFBirds] That gull

Josiah and co
I have not had a chance to go check out this gull yet (has it been seen
since?), but I would be EXTREMELY cautious about claiming an Iceland on the
West Coast at this time of year. 1st year gulls of a number of species can
look very pale (even white) at this time of year, particularly in the (by
now) very worn retrices and remiges. This is particularly so with species
that have pale 1st year plumages to start with (e.g. Glaucous-winged), but
even those with a lot of pigment can look incredibly pale by now (check out
the 1st summer Glaucous-winged (specimen) and California Gull on Don
Roberson's page at http://montereybay.com/creagrus/SCZgullmys.html - yes a
CALIFORNIA Gull!). Personally, I would not attempt to distinguish a 1st
year Iceland from a pale 1st year Thayers at this time of year. But it
should be possible to determine if it is thayeri/kumlieni, rather than
glaucescens or other type, from a combination of size and structure. How
big is it? What is the shape of the bill? Head shape? Even if it is only
a Thayers, I imagine this would be quiet something - they should all be way
to the north by now.
Don's page (http://montereybay.com/creagrus/SCZgullmys.html) also has an
excellent discussion on the problem of summer claims of white-winged gulls -
pertaining to a summer claim of Glaucous Gull in this instance, but the same
problems apply to Iceland too. Sorry to pour cold water on this, but I
think a heavy dose of caution is in order. I would love to see this bird if
it is still around, so please post any further sightings.
Might also want to check Don's photos and excellent discussion of an Orange
Co. bird that appears to be a classic Kumlien's in every respect
(http://montereybay.com/creagrus/ORA_kumliens.html).

As an aside, I don't think you need to worry about bringing up the rear in
the B2K Harry - I added one species last month!:|. I did see 190 species on
a 2 week tip to AZ though. Oh well...
Hope to see you all soon
Bird hard
Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From: Josiah Clark [mailto:sunbittern@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 12:32 PM
To: SFBirds@...
Subject: [SFBirds] That gull

Hey again,
Harry braught up the possibility of the gull I saw being a young GW Gull,(
which I commonly see at Crissy) I want to re iterate. This bird was WHITE.
It was totally striking in appearance, even from the top of Merry Way. It
was like nothing I have ever seen, (perhaps only because the plumage is so
worn, but still a good study)
I am writing again because Ive never heard of such a lack of interest
about such a potentially rare species.
I would ask anyone around that area to take a special peek onto the
rocks or into the Sutro Baths. The primaries were in such bad shape I could
imagine it staying around a while.

Josiah



following is a kind message from Harry about the gull:

That kind of gull wason Ocean Beach Saturday and a similar one at Merced a
week
ago...I believe all are yearling Glaucous-winged with very worn
feathers...at
least the two I saw were slender but overall taller than the Westerns
nearby...black beak I believe is a key field mark in these veyr light
colored
gulls, but I am not a great gullacsious birder


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