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Yaesu FT-450D Problems - Audio, Cables, etc.

 

Hello to all,
A friend recently acquired a RigPi for use with a 450D and while waiting for cables I decided to investigate any possible problems he may have. I thought it might be a good idea to have all the problems in one thread!
I did a search and found the audio to be a problem.  After reading all of the posts I found one possible common denominator.  Almost all of the posts were in June which I believe is before the latest audio update as mentioned in 1.05 from Howard.
Has anyone tried this audio update and the instructions to go along with it? Might be a solution to someone's problem???
I'm still looking and will post anything I find here.
Everyone is welcome to do the same.
Don Link
N3BMT


A glimpse of the RibPi heritage

Bruce Perens K6BP
 

Since a lot of people seem to be uninformed, here is some of what else is in the system besides Howard's great work. Lots of pieces are left out and this could be volumes long, and it highlights my own participation while there was equally notable work by others:

In the early 1980's Richard Stallman promoted the concept of Free Software and wrote the C/C++ compiler and Emacs editor we are using.
People at U.C. Berkeley wrote additions to the Unix system which we are using.
Many people joined in these efforts and contributed work we are using.
I published my first Open Source software, the Electric Fence malloc() debugger, commonly called "efence", from Pixar around 1987.
Guido von Rossum creates the Python language. I help Guido convince Bob Kahn at the Corporation for National Research Initiatives that he should allow Guido's work there to be free.
Linus Torvalds created the Linux kernel, a then-toy version of Unix, in 1991.
Ian Murdock created the Debian distribution of Linux in 1993, to be a free system.
I joined the Debian effort and was the second Debian project leader, and created the modern Linux distribution by distributing all of the core system devleopment to other developers worldwide, for the first time, before anyone knew that would work.
Eric Raymond and I created the Open Source Initiative in 1997. I was the first to announce Open Source to the world.
Nate Bargman and others develop Hamlib, the software we are using for radio control.
Eben Upton and friends at Broadcomm create the Raspberry Pi in 2006, and port Debian to it to create Raspbian.
The entire business world adopts Open Source because intellectual property is just too much of a hassle for software you aren't trying to make money from. It's better to just share it under an Open Source license.
Many, many more people contribute to the work on that SD card.


Re: Can I share the RigPi image with a friend?

Bruce Perens K6BP
 



On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Bo Barry <bobarr@...> wrote:
Well said! Why do hams like all their software free but spend THOUSANDS on radios?

I am one of the tens of thousands of authors of the software the RigPi is based upon, and also the guy who wrote the Open Source Definition. We made it free so that we could all have good software that we could all use and maintain. If it isn't free, we run into problems even attempting to fix it, and give the fixes to each other. It's important to realize that the RigPi is the result of millions of hours of work by very many people, all of whom were motivated by a desire to share with you. A good way to pay them back would be to make your own work Open Source.

Currently, there are a few small pieces of the RigPi software that are not free, and the source code is not all online yet. Once that is taken care of you will indeed legally be able to give your friend a copy.

    Thanks

    Bruce
--
Bruce Perens - Partner, OSS.Capital.


Re: Kenwood TS-2000 MACROS

 

Mike,
Sorry for the misunderstanding.  You said "a button" so I was looking for a single button.
I thought we were always talking about the Power ON and Power OFF buttons , which are macros, all along.
I had tried them in the past but could not get the radio back on so I changed the macros on my system but still couldn't get the radio to turn on every time.
After reading your last post I put the macros back to what they were previously and gave them another try.
Well I guess I didn't have enough patience back then because I got the message about radio coming on but nothing was happening and my phone rang . I turned to look at the ID and it was spam so I ended the call and when I turned back to the radio it was on!!  A miracle, no just a little patience is all that was needed.  Yes it does work all the time, a little slow on Power ON but it works.
Thanks for kick starting my brain with your comments.
Don
N3BMT


Re: Which Rig?

leroy
 

Will go there and do that. Thank you 73 Roy
 

From: Don N3BMT via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 12:26 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RigPi] Which Rig?
 
Hi Roy.
For Quality, I use Balanced.
For Audio Input, I have Preprocessing Off
and Echo Cancellation On.
Everything else is Off.
Hope that helps.
Don
N3BMT


Re: Which Rig?

 

Hi Roy.
For Quality, I use Balanced.
For Audio Input, I have Preprocessing Off
and Echo Cancellation On.
Everything else is Off.
Hope that helps.
Don
N3BMT


Re: Can I share the RigPi image with a friend?

Bo Barry <bobarr@...>
 

Well said! Why do hams like all their software free but spend THOUSANDS on radios?

Heck I'd send Howard a $50 check every year I use the software. I already do that for the N3FJP software.
I've never understood why the non-programmers want it all free. Software creators need to make a living too! 
Programmers should be able to write their own or they aren't programmers, just copy cats!
Enjoy it and the little box that goes with it. It all works OUT OF THE BOX!
Bo - W4GHV


Hats off to Howard Nurse and his team

Bo Barry <bobarr@...>
 

The son of another famous 'Nurse' has created a winner.
I had mine connected to my Icom in 5 minutes, and communicating via the web browser. Now on a pause reading all the docs.

The software setup for the Pi is OUTSTANDING. I've worked long and hard with a LOT of Googling to set them up in the past. (I haven't tested it all yet). A lot of effort was put into its creation. (Unless he was a Linux genius).

Two programs I've added are Midnight Commander and rsnapshot. The first one is very useful and no setup needed. The next one is a good backup routine, but takes careful following the docs on the web.    sudo apt-get install mc rsnapshot  will do the trick.

One more, (forgot its name), but it is on the putty.org website. In addition to the putty program, there is a program for a PC there that allows easy transfer of files between a PC and the pi. Like a FTP client/server with no server setup needed. Handy.

The hardest part was figuring out the passwords. I found them in the docs and will not reveal them here. :)    Initial logon has no password, tho.

73, Bo W4GHV since '54


Re: RigPi Audio Connections

bverb
 

I am Bill  W4WV.

Just received my Rigpi.

Want to set up a FT 450D.

Anyone done this rig?

Can you tell me how you called your setup?

I have seen some post that said thay connecting the mic to the modular mic input on the front of the rig was the best.

Rear external speaker okay for audio to rigpi?

Cat control?

How about if my linear uses my cat control port?

Advice welcome.

73, Bill W4WV


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Re: Which Rig?

leroy
 

Will do. I think it some setting or jumper as well.  I could hear Mumble log on/off but no audio. I fooled  with menu so I may have made it worse.
 
Thanks! Roy
 

From: Howard Nurse, W6HN
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:07 AM
To: RigPi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RigPi] Which Rig?
 
Roy, make sure the MON function on your radio is turned off.   If testing next to your radio, check the the Mic isn't alive.

--Howard


Re: Macros

KT7AZ
 

Thanks Howard, was wondering if I was doing something wrong.  If there are any other Macros that cannot be run from the second account please let me know.
Thanks again
Gary
KT7AZ


Re: Which Rig?

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Roy, make sure the MON function on your radio is turned off.   If testing next to your radio, check the the Mic isn't alive.

--Howard


Re: RigPi Audio Connections

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

John, in addition to Mark's excellent summary, you should have received a printed Quick Start Guide from MFJ that shows a summary of the connections.  If not, here is a link:

https://groups.io/g/RigPi/files/MFJ%20RigPi%20Station%20Server%20Quick%20Start/RigPi%20Intro%20-%20%20Quick%20Start%20Guide.pdf

In addition, please refer to RigPi Help provided with RigPi in the Help menu.  There is a chapter on RigPi connections, including CAT, audio, Internet and much more.

73, Howard W6HN


Re: Rig Pi and Two Radio Cables for Sale

James Kvochick
 

Rig Pi and Cables are sold, 


Re: RigPi Audio Connections

Mark Weisheimer
 

John,

Yes, see below for an explainer on Mumble and the audio path, it may help see the basic pathway.

The basics of audio, and this applies to any rig.

The audio is passed back and forth using MUMBLE as a Voice over IP transfer agent:
A.  A Mumble client on the RigPi device which is configured for the audio input and output.
     This Mumble client makes a virtual connection to an unseen Murmur server running on the RigPi device.
B.  A Murmur server running invisibly on the RigPi device (mentioned above too).
C.  A Mumble (or Plumble, if the remote device is an Android) client running on your remote device, which can be a computer, phone or tablet.
     You will need to download and install this Mumble/Plumble client onto your remote access device.
     This Mumble client also makes a virtual connection to the unseen Murmur server running on the RigPi device.
     This Mumble client is configured to use the audio ports on your remote device, perhaps the built in microphone and speaker.

--
73 - Mark - K8MHW
'A RigPi Enthusiast...since April 23, 2019!' - I am not otherwise affiliated with MFJ or RigPi


Re: RigPi Audio Connections

johnpierce
 

How to find info on the audio connections through the 3.5mm jacks on RiPi.  If mumble runs on rigpi, is that all that is required.  If connecting via an iPad do you have to load Mumble on the ipad working remotely  thru the internet?

John


Re: Kenwood TS-2000 MACROS

Mike
 

Don,

They are black and with the macro buttons "power on" and "power off"..

73's
Mike WA3O


Re: Rig Pi and Two Radio Cables for Sale

Harold Rosee <wa5zzt@...>
 

James

Would you mind giving John some help on getting his KX3 going?

I documented several Icom radio and was going to try to get a KX3 documented but all the post seem to be scattered over the forum making it hard to gather.

John has the CAT control working but needs some pointers on the audio.

Thanks for any help you might provide to him.

Harold


Re: Rig Pi and Two Radio Cables for Sale

James Kvochick
 

I do have both the k3 and the kx3 rj45 to multiple plug cables, but alas I am not selling the pieces separately.

73


On Aug 6, 2019, at 8:04 PM, johnpierce via Groups.Io <ja-pierce@...> wrote:

If you  have the MFJ cable that is RJ45 to multiple 3pin connections for the KX3 (MFJ-5700KX3) I would be interested.  I have one on backorder with more than a week before deliver.  I already have a RigPi.

 

John, AD2F

 

From: RigPi@groups.io [mailto:RigPi@groups.io] On Behalf Of James Kvochick
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 3:31 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io
Subject: [RigPi] Rig Pi and Two Radio Cables for Sale

 

Unused MFJ-1234 Rig Pi with cable for Elecraft K3 and Elecraft KX3.  All 3 for $300.00 ConUS shipping included.

Other currencies or locations would require a discussion

Contact me off list at K8JK@...

73

Jim K8JK


Re: yaesu ft-891 #mfj-1234

HERB KEATON N2GEW
 

Mark:
Thanks for this suggestion.
The SignaLink offered optional "plug and play" modules for the jumper 
configuration. Yes, I have one in the SignaLink for the Icom 7000 radio.

I would never have considered that the jumper block would be the same but
you appear to be correct: same pin-out-to pin-out exactly. As long as this
module will seat properly, there maybe a chance this will work.

First time that I ever installed a new piece of gear stealing jumpers and
cables from an old unit made by a different manufacturer.

Thanks for the suggestion!
73