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Icom 7100 Mumble inconsistent and now not working

Bryan Moris
 

Hello Everyone,
I have an icom 7100 and have tried for weeks to get the mumble to work and have decent sound quality, especially on transmit.

I have tried mumble on my iphone, ipad, and Android pad with inconstant results.  I have read every published post and help file on this group around settings and am ready to call it quits.

I am looking for someone to walk me through settings for both the mumble rigpi software and either iphone or android tablet setup.  I want to use this remotely so, if that makes a different on the settings, please let me know. 

Thanks,
K9BRM
Bryan


RigPi control and keyer multi-screen display

Bo Barry <bobarr@...>
 

Using two instances of the program I put them both on my laptop. Works


Re: WiFi but not over the air

Bryan McCoy
 

your router will almost always provide the same IP address to a device on the inside the house network.  Plug in a laptop you haven't used in a while, and that laptop most likely will get the same IP address it had last time you used it. 

Here is a tool you might find useful:  Fing, an application for android phone devices.  It easily scans the network you are logged into for devices. For example, it can find the ip address of your printer, or network associated file server, etc. Or your RigPi. 

Finding the IP address that your internet service provider assigned to the router in your house is a touch trickier. 
The easy way is to log into your router.  Mine is at address 192.168.0.1  Type that into your address line on your browser.  Often on the router / cable modem / DSL modem, (whatever you are using to get to your internet service provider (ISP)) will have a sticker on it that the ISP places there telling you the user what the administration user name and password is. You most likely will need to look at this to get anywhere further with the ISP modem.  Once you are logged into the modem, there is often a selection that looks like Modem Status.  Under this list the IP address that was assigned to you by your ISP is displayed. 

The base address of your router is usually the same as the address of your Domain Name Server (DNS) IP address.
Often the local wired (RJ45/CAT5)  IP group is the 192.168.0.xxx, and then the addresses handed out by the wireless side of the router will be 192.168.1.xxx  The router is providing a 'bridge' between the two domains. You can type 192.168.0.1 from either domain, and get the modem to respond.

Now for the interesting part. Your ISP may not assign you that same IP address tomorrow / next week /  next month. There are reasons they continue to move these numbers on their customers.  You can ask your ISP for a 'static IP' address.  People usually do this when they are hosting a site from that location.  The ISP would like to charge you money for this opportunity. 


Display option

Steve Smith <wb9hbh@...>
 

Can a "pi" display be connected directly to the Pi using the on board display connector / ribbon cable and a display with touch screen
to control the RigPi and not have a HDMI display. Would it display everything that the HDMI display would?
Touch screen would also be a nice addition. A small mod to the case would be needed to get the ribbon cable out.


RigPi icom7300 progress

Bo Barry <bobarr@...>
 

Whew! 
Some progress and info to share   And lots of questions begging answers.

I tried every setting possible but finally got the winkeyer doing CW, All settings except one just produces a STEADY CARRIER ONLY and the code only on the RigPi.
Finally I tried CAT with ONLY the USB cable and it works!  I had enable keyer PTT on, and PTT during Xmit, Keyer CAT, /dev/ttyUSB0
    The only problem remaining is the rig CW keying dropout timing. I have a footswitch until I figure it out.                                          Ideas??

Second. I opened two instances of the rig on my little laptop and shrunk the main screen and keyer screen to fit!
I think I'm ready for a CW QSO from the den!

Now to figure out how to put canned messages in?? in macros, or within the winkeyer?                                                                     Ideas?
Can the winkeyer be accessed like my stanalone model using WKtools?                                                                                            Ideas?

I tried setting a fixed IP using   sudo nano /etc/dhcpcd.conf  putting the info there.
However it did not work! It still does DHCP on bootup.                                   Ideas?

Mumble, remote access, and remote power on/off  to go.....   And a cute FT-818nd to hook up to it
73, Bo W4GHV



Re: Macro imports

KT7AZ
 

looking forward to imports, will save a lot of time setting up multiple users.

Thanks
Gary
KT7AZ


Re: WiFi but not over the air

Jeffj51@...
 

When I checked the system settings, both the LAN and the WAN had the same IP. In the router, the IP assigned to RigPi was the normal internal IP. I’ve rebooted RigPi but still get the same IPs. Is this normal? Can’t find anything in the help files. 

Jeff KB5CT 


Re: RSS not finding the internet

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

It appears that something is blocking Internet access for RigPi.  RigPi appears to be working correctly on your local LAN based on your report.  RigPi uses a simple ping command to make sure the outside Internet is reachable.  You can duplicate this command from the Terminal window on the Raspberry Pi Desktop.  From Terminal, try this:

ping 8.8.8.8<enter>

to see what it says.  Here is another test:

traceroute 8.8.8.8<enter>

Traceroute shows you each step along the way from RigPi to 8.8.8.8 (a Google server).  The first step shows your router, which will be something like 192.168.1.1.  If there are further IP addresses shown, that will tell us more.

Let us know what you find.

73, Howard W6HN


Re: RigPi quirks with FT991

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi Hayden,

Your steps for updating Hamlib should be fine.  It is always a good idea to back up the MicroSD card before making any major changes.  There is a utility for that purpose in the Accessories menu on the Raspberry Pi desktop, or you can use Win32DiskImager on a PC.

73, Howard W6HN


Re: WiFi but not over the air

 

Tom,
Thank you again for taking the time to send a detailed explanation for my benefit and hopefully for others that may read it.  I think I finally got it through my thick head how it all works. 
Keep up the good work.
73
Don
N3BMT


RSS not finding the internet

obligon
 

I am setting up the RigPi for the first time and I am getting an error message when RSS starts that says it can not find the internet.  If I hover over the two up and down arrows on the panel bar, it displays an ip address.  Also I can access the internet from any other program other than RigPi.   If I click on Settings button then System, it repeats the No Internet error and does not fill in the IP addresses.

Mumble connects as well as the browsers work properly. 

What am I missing?


Re: Older rotator control

Hayden Honeywood <haydenph91@...>
 

Thanks Howard,
I'll try again and see. It might possibly be related to my USB to serial allocations.

I had issues with it conflicting with the radio, so when the radio was connected it would go into transmit.

Regards
Hayden


Re: RigPi quirks with FT991

Hayden Honeywood <haydenph91@...>
 

Excellent Howard,
Thanks for the quick replies. 

I had a bit of a search around for HamLib 4.0, I'm guessing this is the daily snapshots - 
http://n0nb.users.sourceforge.net/

Is it as simple as a extract then:
./configure
    make
    make install
I'm just a bit hesitant as I might break it!

Thanks I found that audio output setting and increased it to 150%. It still sounds a little low, but that might be just because I'm listening to the speaker on my phone. 








Re: WiFi but not over the air

Tom W5KUB <Tom@...>
 

another clarification.   if you are away and say you are at McDonalds you can use their wifi.  or at a friends house you can use their wifi.   If you are not near any wifi, you phone still goes to the exact same internet using your data plan.  For this purpose all are the same. As long as you have an internet connection you can get back to your rigpi if you tell the internet where to go. Right now the only way it knows how to find its way to your house is via that WAN  IP address that your internet provider assigns you.

ok here is a simple test we can do.

make sure your phone is on your home wifi (it has to be connected to your local wifi for the test im talking about )
log in to your rigpi locally (i guess you have a kybd and monitor on it)   go to system then look at top left side and you will see LAN IP 1   that is your local ip address on your home network.   im guessing it will be something like 192.168.1.?

Then look on the far right side of the system screen. you will see WAN IP  that is the single public IP address that your internet provider assigns you.

now on a computer on your home network or your phone (must be using wifi on your home) on a browser type in the LAN address and hit enter.   Do this just like you would be going to qrz.com or anywhere else but instead of putting in qrz.com type in the LAN address    enter.  you should see the rigpi log in screen come up.




Host of live weekly ham radio show called Amateur Radio Roundtable every Tuesday night at 8:00 PM central on W5KUB.COM .


On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:30 PM Don N3BMT via Groups.Io <dlink.home=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Thank you Tom for that info about the port forwarding. I will print that out so I can do that for my system.
I still don't understand your original statement.
"Jim I use my rigpi remotely being connected via my verizon phone using their data plan (not wifi) it works just the same"
You didn't say that you had to do any setup before that works. Like I said, I don't fully understand the workings of the internet!!  When I use my phone out of a wifi area I use data to do anything I do inside of a wifi area. (I think "anything")   Maybe that's where I'm hungup??
Thanks for your help,
Don
N3BMT


Re: WiFi but not over the air

Tom W5KUB <Tom@...>
 

Don no set up on the phone except mumble/pumble for the audio.   using you phone on the wireless phone carrier  is what im talking about.  on your phone you bring up a browser and you browse anywhere like google, Sears, Costco, etc.  but instead of putting in www.sears.com you will need to put in your ip address like75.74.121.131.  then the browser in the phone goes to your specific assigned IP address to your home.  if you log into your router at home under status it will tell you your outside public IP address.  thats the WAN address. The WAN address (wide area network) is the public IP address that your internet carrier assigns to your home router.    in the status of your router you will also see LAN  (local area network)  these are the IPs for all your devices inside you network either cabled by ethernet or by wifi.   This lets you have up to 255 devices inside your home connected with only one address outside that your internet provider gives you.

If your rigpi is a local in house IP of 192.168.1.25 (example) you CAN NOT get to it from inside you house by typing that number into the browser.  Those numbers will not work outside your home  Outside your home you must use your single public IP address (the WAN address of the router)

When you come in from outside on the public IP address, the router sees it, and knows to forward it to the rigpi.
your router sees the request coming in for port 80 and you have set up port 80 to be forwarded to (example) 192.168.1.25 (the rigpi address)     If you dont set up port forwarding to the rigpi address, it does not know where to go, you may have phones on wifi, you may have a smart tv, you may have a tablet, you may have several computers in addition to the rigpi. the rigpi looks just like a computer.   so by forwarding port 80 to the rigpi IP number, it knows where to send your request from your phone.




Host of live weekly ham radio show called Amateur Radio Roundtable every Tuesday night at 8:00 PM central on W5KUB.COM .


On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:30 PM Don N3BMT via Groups.Io <dlink.home=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Thank you Tom for that info about the port forwarding. I will print that out so I can do that for my system.
I still don't understand your original statement.
"Jim I use my rigpi remotely being connected via my verizon phone using their data plan (not wifi) it works just the same"
You didn't say that you had to do any setup before that works. Like I said, I don't fully understand the workings of the internet!!  When I use my phone out of a wifi area I use data to do anything I do inside of a wifi area. (I think "anything")   Maybe that's where I'm hungup??
Thanks for your help,
Don
N3BMT


Re: WiFi but not over the air

 

Thank you Tom for that info about the port forwarding. I will print that out so I can do that for my system.
I still don't understand your original statement.
"Jim I use my rigpi remotely being connected via my verizon phone using their data plan (not wifi) it works just the same"
You didn't say that you had to do any setup before that works. Like I said, I don't fully understand the workings of the internet!!  When I use my phone out of a wifi area I use data to do anything I do inside of a wifi area. (I think "anything")   Maybe that's where I'm hungup??
Thanks for your help,
Don
N3BMT


Re: WiFi but not over the air

Mitch Matteau N0DIM
 

Tom,

 

There seems to be a lot of questions about port forwarding.  Perhaps the group could benefit from the following basic/short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K6jMYBfuIY “What is Port Forwarding?”.

 

Might also make a good topic for a Hamfest forum, Roundtable discussion, etc. 😊

 

See you in Huntsville next week!

 

73

 

Mitch N0DIM

 

From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom W5KUB
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 2:44 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RigPi] WiFi but not over the air

 

let me clarify. you will need to find your homes WAN address. you only get one. that is the address that people on the internet use to get to your house.

 

then inside your home you have a local LAN which probably has the non-public address of like 192.168.1.1

 

all your computers and devices on your home network (LAN) will have address like 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.3, 192.168.1.4  all the way up to 192.168.1.255         your rigpi will pull an address from this range.   lets say it pull an ip of 192.168.1.25

 

then in your router you will port forward port 80 to 192.168.1.25

 

so when you access it from outside your home on the internet you would key in your WAN address  and it then knows and goes to your house, then the router forwards that on to 192.168.1.25 which would be the rigpi.

 

again please note the above numbers are just an example. you will need to verify the ip's at your location

Host of live weekly ham radio show called Amateur Radio Roundtable every Tuesday night at 8:00 PM central on W5KUB.COM .

 

 

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 1:35 PM Tom Medlin <tom@...> wrote:

Don the phones data connection is just an internet connection from outside you house.

It can not get to your RigPi unless you have ports forwarded in your home router to the rigpi.

your internal network in your home is all non public IPs. for example your network is probably something like

192.168.1.1  These internal home ips are not public routable ip's.  Therefore you must know your routers LAN address,  in your router it probably lists it under status. 

Then you will have to go in the router set up and do port forwarding.

 

for example you will need to know the ip of your rigpi.  You can see that on the rigpi screen.  for example lets say it is

192.168.1.25

 

in that case you would go into your home router setup and select port forwarding and route port 80 to ip address 192.168.1.25       i think you will also need to port forward VNC port number and mumble port numbers to 192.168.1.25

 

one you determine your public/routable IP address that your network provider give you, that is the address you will have to go to.

 

example.   if your home router has a routable/public IP address of 75.74.123.131

 

from your phone browser you will have to go to 75.74.123.131 with your browser.

 

by going to that address, the internet knows how to find your house.  Next the router then knows that if you come in on the 75.74.123.131 then to route that to 192.168.1.25

 

Please note I made up the above numbers, you will need to verify your specific ip's

 

Tom

Host of live weekly ham radio show called Amateur Radio Roundtable every Tuesday night at 8:00 PM central on W5KUB.COM .

 

 

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 1:22 PM Don N3BMT via Groups.Io <dlink.home=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Tom,
Do you make any changes on your phone or just let it go to the data plan on its own?  It appears you don't do any port forwarding or anything special.
I am not up on the internet stuff as you can probably see from my question to you.
Don
N3BMT


Re: WiFi but not over the air

Tom W5KUB <Tom@...>
 

let me clarify. you will need to find your homes WAN address. you only get one. that is the address that people on the internet use to get to your house.

then inside your home you have a local LAN which probably has the non-public address of like 192.168.1.1

all your computers and devices on your home network (LAN) will have address like 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.3, 192.168.1.4  all the way up to 192.168.1.255         your rigpi will pull an address from this range.   lets say it pull an ip of 192.168.1.25

then in your router you will port forward port 80 to 192.168.1.25

so when you access it from outside your home on the internet you would key in your WAN address  and it then knows and goes to your house, then the router forwards that on to 192.168.1.25 which would be the rigpi.

again please note the above numbers are just an example. you will need to verify the ip's at your location
Host of live weekly ham radio show called Amateur Radio Roundtable every Tuesday night at 8:00 PM central on W5KUB.COM .


On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 1:35 PM Tom Medlin <tom@...> wrote:
Don the phones data connection is just an internet connection from outside you house.
It can not get to your RigPi unless you have ports forwarded in your home router to the rigpi.
your internal network in your home is all non public IPs. for example your network is probably something like
192.168.1.1  These internal home ips are not public routable ip's.  Therefore you must know your routers LAN address,  in your router it probably lists it under status. 
Then you will have to go in the router set up and do port forwarding.

for example you will need to know the ip of your rigpi.  You can see that on the rigpi screen.  for example lets say it is
192.168.1.25

in that case you would go into your home router setup and select port forwarding and route port 80 to ip address 192.168.1.25       i think you will also need to port forward VNC port number and mumble port numbers to 192.168.1.25

one you determine your public/routable IP address that your network provider give you, that is the address you will have to go to.

example.   if your home router has a routable/public IP address of 75.74.123.131

from your phone browser you will have to go to 75.74.123.131 with your browser.

by going to that address, the internet knows how to find your house.  Next the router then knows that if you come in on the 75.74.123.131 then to route that to 192.168.1.25

Please note I made up the above numbers, you will need to verify your specific ip's

Tom
Host of live weekly ham radio show called Amateur Radio Roundtable every Tuesday night at 8:00 PM central on W5KUB.COM .


On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 1:22 PM Don N3BMT via Groups.Io <dlink.home=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Tom,
Do you make any changes on your phone or just let it go to the data plan on its own?  It appears you don't do any port forwarding or anything special.
I am not up on the internet stuff as you can probably see from my question to you.
Don
N3BMT


Re: WiFi but not over the air

Tom W5KUB <Tom@...>
 

Don the phones data connection is just an internet connection from outside you house.
It can not get to your RigPi unless you have ports forwarded in your home router to the rigpi.
your internal network in your home is all non public IPs. for example your network is probably something like
192.168.1.1  These internal home ips are not public routable ip's.  Therefore you must know your routers LAN address,  in your router it probably lists it under status. 
Then you will have to go in the router set up and do port forwarding.

for example you will need to know the ip of your rigpi.  You can see that on the rigpi screen.  for example lets say it is
192.168.1.25

in that case you would go into your home router setup and select port forwarding and route port 80 to ip address 192.168.1.25       i think you will also need to port forward VNC port number and mumble port numbers to 192.168.1.25

one you determine your public/routable IP address that your network provider give you, that is the address you will have to go to.

example.   if your home router has a routable/public IP address of 75.74.123.131

from your phone browser you will have to go to 75.74.123.131 with your browser.

by going to that address, the internet knows how to find your house.  Next the router then knows that if you come in on the 75.74.123.131 then to route that to 192.168.1.25

Please note I made up the above numbers, you will need to verify your specific ip's

Tom
Host of live weekly ham radio show called Amateur Radio Roundtable every Tuesday night at 8:00 PM central on W5KUB.COM .


On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 1:22 PM Don N3BMT via Groups.Io <dlink.home=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Tom,
Do you make any changes on your phone or just let it go to the data plan on its own?  It appears you don't do any port forwarding or anything special.
I am not up on the internet stuff as you can probably see from my question to you.
Don
N3BMT


Re: WiFi but not over the air

 

Tom,
Do you make any changes on your phone or just let it go to the data plan on its own?  It appears you don't do any port forwarding or anything special.
I am not up on the internet stuff as you can probably see from my question to you.
Don
N3BMT