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Re: Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

Perry Ogletree
 

As Mark mentioned... if the TS-480HX does not have received audio on the RJ45 mike connector you may need audio out from the rig to the MFJ RPi hat. 
The mike connector is usually discouraged as it is more prone to noise and RFI than the line level data jack. The 480 also has built-in audio isolation on the data jack.
In either case, the USB to serial adapter is needed and you may need a 9-pin DE9 Female to Female cable that is wired straight through and not NULL modem wired.

Perry K4PWO 



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10+.

-------- Original message --------
From: W4TNY <w4tny@...>
Date: 9/28/19 3:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: RigPi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RigPi] Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

Thanks, Mark & Perry. So what I hear you saying is that I can use EITHER the MFJ-5745J (RJ45 to RJ45) or the MFJ-5706MD (RJ45 to 6 pin mini DIN). In either case, I need a USB to RS232 female DB9 serial converter cable). Did I hear that correctly? If so, is either option preferred?
--

73, Ralph

Ralph E. Warmack, W4TNY
w4tny@...


Re: Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

W4TNY
 

Thanks, Mark & Perry. So what I hear you saying is that I can use EITHER the MFJ-5745J (RJ45 to RJ45) or the MFJ-5706MD (RJ45 to 6 pin mini DIN). In either case, I need a USB to RS232 female DB9 serial converter cable). Did I hear that correctly? If so, is either option preferred?
--

73, Ralph

Ralph E. Warmack, W4TNY
w4tny@...


Re: New user, not computer savvy, need to understand ..... to begin

Harold Rosee
 

Mike,

Some of the systems get the watery audio when using "Default" in the mumble settings.  I thought I had changed my instructions in the files sections but I just looked and they do not reflect my change.

Follow these instructions and it should fix your audio.  I have replaced "default" with the correct selection.  Just make sure and follow ALL the steps.  Let me know how this works for you.

I changed "default" to .   That is the only change.  It should correct your problem.

Anything else?

Harold

RigPi Audio Settings for USB Audio.
  1.  On the RigPi desktop RIGHT click on Speaker icon in the top right hand corner of the screen.  For the USB cable It needs to have a check mark by the "USB Audio CODEC".  Select it if not already checked.
  2. Your mumble menu should showing on the desk top.  If not click on the lips at the top right of the screen.  This will bring the main Mumble menu into view.
  3. On the Mumble menu go to Configure>settings>audio input tab on left.  Set the Device to the right is set to
  4. Press Apply at the bottom . Do NOT press OK yet.
  5. Now on the left hand side of the menu move down to the next menu by selecting "Audio Output" and  as you did in step 3.  Set it to
  6. Set the Output delay slider to "50ms". This ensures no TX audio dropout's at some installations.
  7. Press Apply. This time press OK.  The configuration menu goes away.
  8. THIS Step IS IMPORTANT To save your Mumble changes you must Quit Mumble and Reboot. To do this,  on the main mumble screen now showing press Server>Quit Mumble.      *Mumble menu will go away*    
  9. Go to the Raspberry icon at the top left of the screen and after pressing on it select "Shutdown".  It is the last selection and will bring up another menu usually in the middle of the screen.  Please select "Reboot"
  10. When the system comes back up Verify any changes you have made are still there. If not start over and take your time.


Re: Configuring Mumble for radio CODEC audio with specifics for the Icom IC-7300

borre.gulliksen@...
 
Edited

Hi.
Last week I received my new RigPi. Set up was successful on rig control and Mumble setup.

The only problem is that I cannot get any audio out to the microphone ACC. (No ALC)

Receiving audio works fine. Need some hints to know where to start looking for the problem.

The rig is configured with Mic/Acc input. And I use a MFJ-5713DI cable.

73, Boerre LB1R


Re: Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

Mark Weisheimer
 
Edited


For the TX-480HX, the RigPi is able to use either of those cables for the audio interface, along with a USB to DB-9 CAT interface cable.
The MFJ-5745J cable that was recommended for Perry will use the Mic audio jack for for transmit audio.
I am not certain if the TS-480HX supplies receive audio to that port, some Kenwood radios do.
If not, you would add one more small cable for RX audio, from the 1/8" speaker jack on the radio to the 1/8" TX audio jack on the RigPi.

--
73 - Mark - K8MHW
'A RigPi Enthusiast!' - I am not otherwise affiliated with MFJ or RigPi


Re: MFJ-1234AB

Duncan Fisken
 

Hi Howard;

Tks.. it was the part number in the subject line; MFJ-1234AB but I have the explananation (thanks, Perry!).

73, Duncan, G3WZD


On Sep 28, 2019, at 01:48, Howard Nurse, W6HN <hlnurse@...> wrote:

Hi Duncan,

You asked about "this board" but I didn't see any further description. My guess is that it is probably something completely different from RigPi.  Most dealers are selling the complete RigPi with the Audio and Keyer boards installed.  If you purchase the complete RigPi you will not need any additional circuit boards.  You may need to purchase audio and radio control cables.

73, Howard W6HN


Re: Rig control #ft-991a

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi Mark,

It's unclear where you are running into trouble with connecting to your radio.  However, connecting to a radio and turning on rig control is covered in the menu selection RigPi>Help>RigPi Help.  In the Introduction you will see the Quick Start Guide, with more info to be found in RSS Connections>Radio.

Depending on which radio you are using, you will find a rich resource of info right here on the Forum.  Once you've been through the two Help sections, there are many folks here on the Forum that can help answer your specific questions.

73, Howard W6HN


Re: MFJ-1234AB

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 
Edited

Hi Duncan,

As has been said, the MFJ-1234AB is the RigPi Audio board.  Most dealers are selling the complete RigPi with the Audio and Keyer boards installed.  If you purchase the complete RigPi you will not need any additional circuit boards.  You may need to purchase audio and radio control cables.

73, Howard W6HN


Re: Mumble and Kenwood TS-480

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi George,

In the Raspberry Pi Mumble Audio Input window, with Transmission set to Voice Activity, the boundaries of the bar graph colors is determined by the Silence Below and Silence Above sliders,  It they are set to the same position you will not see yellow.  If Silence Above is all the way to the left and Speech Above is set all the way to the right the entire bar graph will be yellow.

Since you should keep the Transmit option on Continuous, the position of the sliders doesn't matter.  It is important is that the bar graph be jumping around in response to audio.  The jumping bar graph shows Mumble is receiving audio from your radio.  Once you've shown that, change the Transmission to Continuous, click Apply, OK and restart Mumble.  Restarting is necessary to have the settings stick.

1. You will not hear audio through the HDMI connection.  In RigPi audio is redirected to the sound card.

2. My Understanding is that you need to set up one piTunnel connection for each port that needs to be open.  I've only used the free piTunnel version which allows one port to be open, so I did not test audio. 

3. Normally you should use Favourite (sic) Servers to manage connections on your mobile device.  Click the + button to add a server.

4. Hamlib does not support dynamic power output readings on any radios that I know of.  In transmit you will see a static reading of the power output that is set in the radio.  You can calibrate that level.  See RigPi Help.  Some radios do not support S-meter readings.  Click the Radio Capabilities button in Advanced Radio Settings to see if your radio supports that reading.  (I just checked the 480 and it doesn't show STRENGTH as a level it can read.  That doesn't mean that reading radio signal strength isn't supported by Kenwood, but that Hamlib doesn't provide a way to read it.)

You should be able to use the Accessory Data DIN connector for audio.  According to the manual, pg 78, ANI is audio in and ANO is audio out.  It is necessary to ground pin 3, DTS, to switch the microphone audio from the mic to the DIN connector for transmitting.  Receive audio should work with no further switching.  Since this connector is designed for DATA, there may be limitations on audio filtering and bandpass settings as determined by the radio menu.

In a previous message you said you were using an Eero router.  It may not be necessary to use piTunnel (or another tunneling service) if you can open the Admin window for the router.  You said you don't have the password, but the default passwords for most routers can be found with a Google search.

73, Howard W6HN


Mumble and Kenwood TS-480

George Miller W3GWM
 

I'm using pitunnel to connect to RigPi from the LAN and WAN. I am able to control the radio (Kenwood TS-480HX) with no audio.

I'm having a problem with Mumble. From the Raspberry Pi desktop, I set up Mumble Configure>Settings>Audio Input and set Device to sysdefault snd_rpi_proto. All other settings are the way they are shown the Help file pages 101-104, including the Audio Output.

In Audio Input, the colored bar only shows red and green. The part that should be yellow is a mix of red and green.

When I right click on the speaker icon in the upper left portion of the raspberry pi desktop, it shows that I am connected to snd_rpi_proto

I clicked on Apply and Ok to get back to the main screen off the Mumble Server.

I'm using a monitor connected by HDMI. My keyboard and mouse are connected by USB ports.

1. Should I hear any sound through the monitor speakers with Mumble configured this way? Does the HDMI port supply audio to the monitor?

2. Do I need to provide another pi-tunnel to connect the Mumble Server to the LAN/WAN and the remote RSS connected through pi-tunnel.com? I am able to control the radio settings through pi-tunnel.com:xxxxx

3. The Mumble Client on my remote shows RigPi VoIP Server as a selection under LAN but the Connect Button is ghosted.

4. The S-Meter on my RSS remote and on the Raspberry Pi are both locked at about S-6. I can press PTT to key the transmitter. The transmitter keys and the needle moves to 100 and stays there until I shut down and reboot.

I think I have a couple of different problems here. I think I'm close to getting the MFJ-1234 RigPi working. I'm connected through the USB to the serial port on my TS-480 and my audio is connected through the 6-pin MINI din.

The pins on the data port are:
1 ANI
2 ANG
3 DTS
4 NC
5 ANO
6 SQC
METAL COVER  GND

Is this sufficient to supply audio to the RSS and transmit audio to my rig or should I have a line feeding audio to RX IN and a line from TX OUT to the TS-480. 

If I need a line from TX OUT where would it connect on the TS-480?

Sorry for the length of this but I wanted to explain where I am right now, I'm stuck.

--
George W3GWM


Re: MFJ-1234AB

Ryan Tourge, N2YQT
 

The MFJ-1234AB is the sound card portion of the RigPi platform. Here is a copy-paste from the RigPi website:

"The RigPi Audio board provides input and output audio for VoIP or other digital audio processing programs. It has I/Q auxiliary inputs for use in Panadapters."
 
Here is a link that explains a little more about it:


Re: MFJ-1234AB

Duncan Fisken
 

Many thanks for the explanation, Perry!!

Duncan, G3WZD


On Sep 27, 2019, at 18:07, Perry Ogletree <afa4nq@...> wrote:

It's a hardware/software system based on the RPi to allow remote operation of CAT compliant radios from Android, iOS, laptops/pcs.
You get the "hat" by itself if you have a RPi 3+ or 4 as well as the proprietary software on an SD card from MFJ.

Perry K4PWO 



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10+.

-------- Original message --------
From: Duncan Fisken <duncan.fisken@...>
Date: 9/27/19 10:47 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [RigPi] MFJ-1234AB

Hi folks;

 

I was at the National Hamfest today in the UK and saw this item on one of the UK’s major ham radio dealer’s stands (this dealer has been promoting the RigPi since it was first announced). I asked what is the purpose of this board and do I need it to purchase it with a RigPi, or is it for some other application, such as in conjunction with a Raspberry Pi, for example? The collective brainpower of the dealer’s staff at the show had no clue (though I dare say they would have been more than happy to take my money!).

 

Google also shed no light on it.

 

Can someone help me?

 

TU es 73,

Duncan, G3WZD


Kenwood TM-V71

Jay McClellan, K8DC
 

I finally got my Kenwood TM-V71 mobile rig working with the RigPi, and I uploaded detailed configuration instructions here:

https://groups.io/g/RigPi/files/Rig%20Configuration%20Information/Kenwood/Kenwood%20TM-V71.pdf

These instructions should also work for other similar mobile rigs, except for minor differences in the radio menus.

73,
Jay K8DC


Re: MFJ-5713DK cable support CAT commands #mfj-1234

harrishelp@...
 

I agree, cat only. 
It looks like you will have to use more than one cable to gain the control functions you want  and have audio functions. 


Re: Micro SDHC card performance question

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

RPi4 update:

I have been able to successfully run the RigPi image on the Raspberry Pi 4.  It required that Raspbian be upgraded to Buster.  This is not terribly complicated, but is probably not for someone who does not have some sort of Linux terminal experience. 

1) It is necessary to pay close attention to the various prompts during the upgrade process.  If you hurry though and choose the wrong options, you could break Mumble in particular.  I selected to preserve config with every question.
2) It seems to be a universal problem at the moment that xorg must be re-installed after the upgrade is complete.
3) Networking was functioning properly after the upgrade while still running on the 3B+, but when I loaded it onto the 4, I had to redo all of the network connections. 

So far, I have RigPi on the 4 successfully controlling my FT-991A which has CAT and audio over USB.  R/W from the SD card is blazingly fast in comparison of the 3B+.  The big advantages here are not only audio stability, but greatly enhanced performance when using the various digital modes on the RPi desktop.  My goal for tomorrow is the mount the audio board and keyer onto the Pi 4 and make sure that they work properly. 


Re: EERO and RSS

George Miller W3GWM
 

Hi Howard --

I'm using pitunnel to connect to RigPi from the LAN and WAN. I am able to control the radio (Kenwood TS-480HX) with no audio.

I'm having a problem with Mumble. From the Raspberry Pi desktop, I set up Mumble Configure>Settings>Audio Input and set Device to sysdefault snd_rpi_proto. All other settings are the way they are shown the Help file pages 101-104, including the Audio Output.

In Audio Input, the colored bar only shows red and green. The part that should be yellow is a mix of red and green.

When I right click on the speaker icon in the upper left portion of the raspberry pi desktop, it shows that I am connected to snd_rpi_proto

I clicked on Apply and Ok to get back to the main screen off the Mumble Server.

I'm using a monitor connected by HDMI. My keyboard and mouse are connected by USB ports.

1. Should I hear any sound through the speakers with Mumble configured this way? Does the HDMI port supply audio to the monitor?

2. Do I need to provide another pi-tunnel to connect the Mumble Server to the LAN/WAN and the remote RSS connected through pi-tunnel.com? I am able to control the radio settings through pi-tunnel.com:xxxxx

3. The Mumble Client on my remote shows RigPi VoIP Server as a selection under LAN but the Connect Button is ghosted.

4. The S-Meter on my RSS remote and on the Raspberry Pi are both locked at about S-6. I can press PTT to key the transmitter. The transmitter keys and the needle moves to 100 and stays there until I shut down and reboot.

I think I have a couple of different problems here. I think I'm close to getting the MFJ-1234 RigPi working. I'm connected through the USB to the serial port on my TS-480 and my audio is connected through the 6-pin MINIdin.

The pins on the data port are:
1 ANI
2 ANG
3 DTS
4 NC
5 ANO
6 SQC
METAL COVER  GND

Is this sufficient to supply audio to the RSS and transmit audio to my rig or should I have a line feeding audio to RX in and a line from TX OUT to the TS-480. 

If I need a line from TX OUT where would it connect on the TS-480?

Sorry for the length of this but I wanted to explain where I am right now, I'm stuck for moving forward.

-- 
George W3GWM


Rig control #ft-991a

flash673nj@...
 

After three and a half hours with Verizon figuring out how to set up the ports want to go into the rig pie program and click on connect to radio it's I got a message that says control would control isn't turned on where do I find in the instruction manual how to turn on the rig control
Mark Adubato KD2HAO


Re: Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

Perry Ogletree
 

The 480HX has a 6-pin mini DIN "Data" connector for these application. The cable should have a RJ45 on the MFJ end and the mini DIN on the radio end. CAT control will be via the radio's RS-232 9-pin DE9 connector.

Perry K4PWO 



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10+.

-------- Original message --------
From: W4TNY <w4tny@...>
Date: 9/27/19 10:45 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: RigPi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RigPi] Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

George and Mark, I purchased an MFJ-1234 for our club station and was advised by MFJ that the correct interface cable is "MFJ-5745J Prewired Interface Cable for MFJ-1234 RigPi Amateur Radio Interface System for RJ-45 Mic Connector" which I also purchased. Is this correct? What else do I need and/or need to know? I am crawling through your forum exchanges trying to get ready to install (RigPI and cable not delivered yet). Thanks for any advice and help you can offer!
--

73, Ralph

Ralph E. Warmack, W4TNY
w4tny@...


Re: MFJ-1234AB

Perry Ogletree
 

It's a hardware/software system based on the RPi to allow remote operation of CAT compliant radios from Android, iOS, laptops/pcs.
You get the "hat" by itself if you have a RPi 3+ or 4 as well as the proprietary software on an SD card from MFJ.

Perry K4PWO 



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10+.

-------- Original message --------
From: Duncan Fisken <duncan.fisken@...>
Date: 9/27/19 10:47 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: RigPi@groups.io
Subject: [RigPi] MFJ-1234AB

Hi folks;

 

I was at the National Hamfest today in the UK and saw this item on one of the UK’s major ham radio dealer’s stands (this dealer has been promoting the RigPi since it was first announced). I asked what is the purpose of this board and do I need it to purchase it with a RigPi, or is it for some other application, such as in conjunction with a Raspberry Pi, for example? The collective brainpower of the dealer’s staff at the show had no clue (though I dare say they would have been more than happy to take my money!).

 

Google also shed no light on it.

 

Can someone help me?

 

TU es 73,

Duncan, G3WZD


Re: MFJ-5713DK cable support CAT commands #mfj-1234

Glenn VE9GJ
 

No just cat.

Glenn VE9GJ


On September 27, 2019 12:35:38 PM ADT, Ron Meadows <ronk6rpt@...> wrote:
Hi Glenn,

Thanks for your help, does the DB9 carry audio as well as cat?

-Ron K6RPT





On Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 6:31 AM Glenn VE9GJ <ve9gj@...> wrote:
Hi

I have a TS-590SG and I can use the USB CAT and the DB9 CAT
simultaneously.  There are separate menu items to set the baud rate for
each one.
I do not have MFJ-1234 myself (yet) but I think if you use the USB with
your Win10 PC and then the MFJ-5713DK for RSS audio and a USB to serial
between the pi and DB9 on the 590 it should work. You may need to change
590 menu settings for the audio input between the 590's data port or USB
audio.

73
Glenn VE9GJ


On 2019-09-26 23:54, Ron Meadows wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Thank you for the information. I would like to use only one cable
> between the MFJ-1234 and the radio. Can the DB9 on the TS590SG do
> this? Would a serial to USB adapter work?
>
> Thanks,
> -Ron K6RPT
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 5:41 PM Mark Weisheimer <mweisheimer@...>
> wrote:
>
>> No, it won't with that cable alone.
>>
>> The MFJ-5713DK will carry audio back and forth and CAN carry PTT,
>> but normally on the TS-590's PTT is handled by CAT.
>> The MFJ-5713DK does not carry CAT and CAT is what controls the
>> frequency, the Macros and PTT.
>>
>> The USB cable can carry both audio and CAT, but you are using that
>> on the Win10 computer.
>> The TS-590's also have a DB-9 comm port that can carry CAT.
>>
>> --
>> 73 - Mark - K8MHW
>> 'A RigPi Enthusiast!' - I am not otherwise affiliated with MFJ or
>> RigPi
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] https://groups.io/g/RigPi/message/3224
> [2] https://groups.io/mt/34300538/164950
> [3] https://groups.io/g/RigPi/post
> [4] https://groups.io/mk?hashtag=mfj-1234&subid=4243858
> [5] https://groups.io/g/RigPi/editsub/164950
> [6] https://groups.io/g/RigPi/leave/defanged