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Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Thanks, that's where our pin numbering inconsistencies originate.  The numbers 1-8 do not reflect the normal DIP pin numbering, but instead they reflect their corresponding connection on the RJ-45 connector.  I believe the pins in question on the RJ-45 are 3 and 5, not 3 and 6.  The two middle pins are shorted according to Don, and the pins are numbered 1-3-5-7 along that side.

--Howard

Re: PTT output not working on transmit

Jay McClellan, K8DC
 

Joe, I followed the instructions for the IC-7300 that you can find here: https://groups.io/g/RigPi/wiki/IC-7300%20Radio%20Setup
Similarly I followed these instructions for Mumble: https://groups.io/g/RigPi/wiki/Mumble
Hope that helps.

Re: PTT output not working on transmit

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi Jay,

Welcome to the forum!

If you have a 3.5 mm connector plugged into TX OUT, the RJ-45 PTT connection may be bypassed.  The only other factor that affects PTT on the Audio board is jumper near the TX OUT connector.  The jumper should be between 2 and 3 unless you are using the PTT line to control power on/off for the Elecraft KX-3.

--Howard

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Bruce N7XGR
 

Howard,  My notch is pointing toward the edge of the board, away from the RJ45.
The number next to the notch on mine is 8.

Bruce  N7XGR


On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 7:35 PM Howard Nurse, W6HN <hlnurse@...> wrote:
Bruce, what numbering convention are you using for pins on the DIP jumper socket?  I'm using conventional numbering, starting with pin 1 to the left of the notch on the physical connector.

--Howard

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Bruce, what numbering convention are you using for pins on the DIP jumper socket?  I'm using conventional numbering, starting with pin 1 to the left of the notch on the physical connector.

--Howard

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Bruce N7XGR
 

Don,  There should be no solder bridges between pads.  As I have traced these two
points they are pins 4 and 6 on the DIP socket.  The DIP module has a jumper going
directly across from pin 6 to GND.  There should not be any jumper at pin 4 as
indicated for the TS2K jumper diagram.
Now this where the problem might be,  pin 13 on the DIN connects to pin 4 on the RJ45
but since there is a solder bridge between two pads and since I have traced them to pins 4 and 6
on the DIP then I see where GND is applied to pin 13 on the DIN where pin 13 is the
second PTT point.  Ground is on pin 6 which is tied to by this bridge to then end up on the
PTT pin on the 13 pin DIN connection.

Bruce  N7XGR

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:02 PM Don Domina <stl_deli@...> wrote:
Howard,

I will check as noted.  However, I may have discovered a soldering issue with the small board.  I am not sure of the relevance. I also can not seem to get a photo to appear on this site.  I will describe what I have seen using a photo that you sent to me.  In message 3062, you showed me a photo (with #3 and #6 noted) the top of the small daughter board that the jumpers are connected too.  Your picture is the side of the board opposite of the jumper installation side.  On the left side of that photo I can see the solder connections for the RJ45.  There are 8 distinct points.  
When I look at the board in my RSS two of the points have solder between them  In checking continuity, they are direct shorts.   The two solder points in question are the second and third from the left on the top row when viewing the photo in #3062.  Can you tell me if that is correct?  Could that be my issue?  Is there another way I can post a photo to the forum that will give you the resolution so you can see what I am seeing?
Once I hear back from you about this I will test the voltage.

Thanks and cheers.

Don KC0DE

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi Don,

(Thanks for jumping in Don #2.)

The two shorted pins are RJ45 jack pins 3 and 5.  Pin 3 is PTT.  Using conventional socket pin numbering, pin 5 goes to pin 13 on the jumper. Pin 13 isn't used, but the cable's pin 5 may be connected to something at the radio ACC2 end.

If Pin 5 goes to connection that looks like ground, PTT would be engaged continuously (which it isn't).  A higher impedance wouldn't affect PTT.

Solder bridges aren't good, but my guess is that it isn't causing the problem with PTT not working.

--Howard  

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Bruce N7XGR
 

Don,   OK, try this, set RTS to HIGH and set Keyer to via CAT.

Bruce  N7XGR


On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:45 PM Don Domina <stl_deli@...> wrote:
Bruce
R DTR = Default
R RTS = Default
Keyer = RigPi Keyer
PTT = On When Transmitting

Don KC0DE

Re: PTT output not working on transmit

Joe Clements <vy2jc@...>
 

IJay my name is Joe I was wondering if you could email me the adjustments you had to make on the 7300 and the adjustments on the Mumble app I am trying to get mine working on an Android S10 thank you in advance if you can help that would be great.


From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Jay McClellan, K8DC <Jay@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:01:20 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: [RigPi] PTT output not working on transmit
 
Hello, new user here. I just got my RigPi a few days ago, and after first trying it with my ICOM IC-7300 (which works fine) I now have it connected to my Kenwood TM-V71 through the data jack on the back of the radio. I'm close to having it working and will be glad to write up detailed instructions on how to make it work with the TM-V71 once it's fully functional, but the hardware PTT is not working with the RigPi web interface. I have it wired from the ring terminal on the 'TX OUT' jack to the PTT line on the radio's data jack. I tested it using fldigi by setting it to use GPIO 17 for the hardware PTT line, and it works fine i.e. fldigi keys the radio and it both transmits and receives audio. Therefore I believe that my cable is right and that the RigPi hardware is working correctly.

When using the RigPi web interface, I have the radio type set to TM-D710 since it uses the same command set as the TM-V71, and I have PTT set to 'ON when transmitting'. When I press the PTT button it switches to transmit using a serial command but the hardware PTT signal on the TX OUT connector is not getting asserted. The radio transmits, but because the PTT line is not asserted through the data jack it uses the handheld mic instead of the signal from the data jack. As a test I changed PTT to 'ON when radio connected' and then it starts transmitting as soon as I connect, and I can send audio from mumble on my iPhone through the radio and hear it on a HT. I can use the connect/disconnect buttons as a very crude PTT and it functions, so the web interface does toggle the hardware PTT line and the audio path is working in both directions, but it just doesn't work with PTT set to 'ON when transmitting'. It seems that anyone using hardware PTT on the TX OUT jack would have the same problem - has anyone else encountered this?

Jay K8DC

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Don Domina
 

Bruce
R DTR = Default
R RTS = Default
Keyer = RigPi Keyer
PTT = On When Transmitting

Don KC0DE

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

 

Hello,
For what it's worth it looks like the MIC and PTT are shorted together.  I would cut the short with a razor or x-acto knife..  The worst that could happen probably nothing.
Don
N3BMT

PTT output not working on transmit

Jay McClellan, K8DC
 

Hello, new user here. I just got my RigPi a few days ago, and after first trying it with my ICOM IC-7300 (which works fine) I now have it connected to my Kenwood TM-V71 through the data jack on the back of the radio. I'm close to having it working and will be glad to write up detailed instructions on how to make it work with the TM-V71 once it's fully functional, but the hardware PTT is not working with the RigPi web interface. I have it wired from the ring terminal on the 'TX OUT' jack to the PTT line on the radio's data jack. I tested it using fldigi by setting it to use GPIO 17 for the hardware PTT line, and it works fine i.e. fldigi keys the radio and it both transmits and receives audio. Therefore I believe that my cable is right and that the RigPi hardware is working correctly.

When using the RigPi web interface, I have the radio type set to TM-D710 since it uses the same command set as the TM-V71, and I have PTT set to 'ON when transmitting'. When I press the PTT button it switches to transmit using a serial command but the hardware PTT signal on the TX OUT connector is not getting asserted. The radio transmits, but because the PTT line is not asserted through the data jack it uses the handheld mic instead of the signal from the data jack. As a test I changed PTT to 'ON when radio connected' and then it starts transmitting as soon as I connect, and I can send audio from mumble on my iPhone through the radio and hear it on a HT. I can use the connect/disconnect buttons as a very crude PTT and it functions, so the web interface does toggle the hardware PTT line and the audio path is working in both directions, but it just doesn't work with PTT set to 'ON when transmitting'. It seems that anyone using hardware PTT on the TX OUT jack would have the same problem - has anyone else encountered this?

Jay K8DC

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Don Domina
 

Howard,

I will check as noted.  However, I may have discovered a soldering issue with the small board.  I am not sure of the relevance. I also can not seem to get a photo to appear on this site.  I will describe what I have seen using a photo that you sent to me.  In message 3062, you showed me a photo (with #3 and #6 noted) the top of the small daughter board that the jumpers are connected too.  Your picture is the side of the board opposite of the jumper installation side.  On the left side of that photo I can see the solder connections for the RJ45.  There are 8 distinct points.  
When I look at the board in my RSS two of the points have solder between them  In checking continuity, they are direct shorts.   The two solder points in question are the second and third from the left on the top row when viewing the photo in #3062.  Can you tell me if that is correct?  Could that be my issue?  Is there another way I can post a photo to the forum that will give you the resolution so you can see what I am seeing?
Once I hear back from you about this I will test the voltage.

Thanks and cheers.

Don KC0DE

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Bruce N7XGR
 

Don,  What are the settings in RigPi on the Advanced Radio Settings screen
for, R DTR and R RTS and Keyer and PTT.

Bruce  N7XGR


On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:25 PM Don Domina <stl_deli@...> wrote:
Howard/Perry/Bruce/Don

Thanks for all the information.  I have rechecked everything and followed the various instructions.  

First, the test....I ran based on Howard's note #3114.  I set the software as described into the Dummy mode and rebooted.  With the serial to USB cable not plugged in, the RED PTT in the software was on and off in close sync to the mouse action. I did not attempt to do it with the space bar.  The RED PTT LED on the RSS DID NOT LIGHT.  I opened the RSS and checked the jumper near the TX OUT connector.  It is across positions 2 and 3.  Again, this was all done in the Dummy mode.

Further I decided to again check the cable.  I now have two cables (one was the original Signalink cable and the other is the new MFJ cable).  In continuity tests, the cables are identical.  There is a slight change from the readings I had in the earlier note.  I was able to get more accurate readings today.  The pin matrix of the RJ45/ACC2 follows:
RJ 45 TS2000 ACC2 Function  
1 3 AF Output Main Receiver  
2 12 MIC Audio Input  
3 9 Transceiver PPT Line Control
4 13 PTT Control    
5 OPEN      
6 4 Ground    
7 8 Ground    
8 12 Ground    

I also rechecked the Jumper Module.  Continuity is directly across each position in the jumper for pins 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, which is in keeping with the drawings I have for this jumper scheme.  There is no connection for Pins 4 and 5.  Pins 6, 7 and 8 are noted as Ground on the jumper module drawing which corresponds to the information.  The information also shows Pin 1 to be SPKR, Pin 2 to be MIC and Pin 3 to be PTT.  Again, this is all for the jumper module and it coincides with the Pin out matrix above.  Bruce had commented that he felt Pin 9 was the correct connection for PTT.  It is in fact the position that is used.

Not withstanding the function of the RSS, I am confident in saying, both the cable and the jumper module are good.  I am also confident the radio is solid.  As I said, I used this radio with a Signalink USB to run digital (FT8) right up until I removed the cables to install the RSS.  I used the current TS2000 menu settings for that as well.  Those settings were verified earlier by Don.  I would be surprised if the radio suddenly developed a problem.

Thanks again and I await your response.

Cheers.

Don KC0DE

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 
Edited

Hi Don,

I think we've gotten to the point where continuity/voltage testing is necessary.  As Bruce, N7XGR, recommended you can use an ohmmeter to check continuity.  We tried shorting pin 6 on the jumper header once before and the transmitter didn't go into Transmit.  Using a voltmeter you can check the voltage at jumper pin 6.  It should be some positive voltage until you engage PTT, at which point it should go to 0.  If the voltage test doesn't show anything at the jumper, check the voltage on the RJ connector, pin 3, which can be accessed from the trace side of the board.

As you also suggested, having someone else take a look at your RigPi might be the best path forward, I'd be glad to do that for you if you'd like.  I do not have access to  Kenwood TS-2000, but I should be able to find the problem pretty quickly here.

--Howard

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Don Domina
 

Don,

Sorry.  Yes I did.  It does not key the transmitter.  The "sluggish" response has returned when the Serial/USB ACC2 cable is plugged in.

Cheers

Don KC0DE

Re: Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

George Miller W3GWM
 

Hi Harold,

I have a problem with my router where I can't control the ports. I am using pitunnel to open a port for VNC. 

This seems to be working now.

I need to begin connect my TS-480 now.

--
George W3GWM

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

 

Hi Don,
Have you tested with both cables connected as in a finished set up? I may be missing that in your post somewhere.
Don
N3BMT

Re: Rigs

Ryan Matthew Headley
 

Maybe I am missing something, but I still see no way to use 23cm band as there are only 3 digits available for MHz.  23cm 1240Mhz to 1300Mhz.

If you are correct that the display is the same for all rigs, then 23cm might be usable, but only on memory channels.

Re: New user, not computer savvy, need to understand ..... to begin

Mike <k0com@...>
 

Thanks Harold, I printed it all out and will start to distill it soon.  I plan to take both the Rigpi and 7300 back down to civilization, my home in the Twin Cities so I can have everything in one place along with the needed associated equipment that will allow me to work with it in a more conductive environment.  After it's working there I'll bring it all back up to the lake home and try it here in my remote location. 

73, Mike

KzeroCOM

On 9/24/19 10:08 PM, W5zzt1@... wrote:
Mike,

In addition to Clint's manual I also put in the files section a step by step document to get a 7300 up and running.  If you follow it step by step you will be up and running in an hour or so.  I also put out some other general info that may help your understanding of the RigPi.

Look here:
https://groups.io/g/RigPi/files/Rig%20Configuration%20Information/ICOM/ICOM%20IC-7300%20Setup.pdf
and Here
https://groups.io/g/RigPi/message/1501?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,other+stuff,20,2,0,32432436

Harold