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Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Bruce N7XGR
 

The best way to check for continuity is to use a gator to gator test wire.
Put a sewing needle on one end and connect the other to the Ohm meter
test lead.  Use the needle to probe the RJ connector and if also needed
use the same gator to gator with needle for the DIN connector.
Another way is to take the cover off the RigPI and unplug the jumper module,
you can see the pin markings on the underside of the RJ45 board.
Pin 8 starts at the notch, now test from the DIN to each pin on the DIP socket
and make a pinout list.  Compare which wire from the DIN and with the jumper
module installed that everything lines up pin to pin to the other side of
the jumper module paying attention to the GND and PTT.
Pin 9 of the DIN is for digital operation but also for allowing TX audio
to go directly to the modulation section, the mic is muted when this pin
is grounded.  9 PKS should be connected to pin 2 on one side of the DIP socket
then jumpered to the PTT on the other side.

Bruce  N7XGR 


On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:18 PM Don Domina <stl_deli@...> wrote:
Howard/Don

Further to # 3033.
As Don noted this morning, we still have not confirmed or ruled out an issue with the cable.  
I have checked continuity with the my current cable.  I am not 100% certain of the reading.  The probe was too large and the meter is not the best.  I will recheck with a better probe/meter if I can locate one.  My results are puzzling.  While I see PTT control I do not see any audio.  And I recall that when I unplugged the cable from the RSS during one of the tests suggested  and tried to key the transmitter, it did key.
The results of the pin-to-pin continuity check is as follows.  The pins on the RJ45 are counted with the contacts pointed at 6 o'clock and facing up from Right to Left.  The pins on the 13 pin are counted from a mirrored image of the socket on the back of the TS2000 located in the instruction manual.  The key is to the bottom.  Top row is 13, next row Right to Left is 9, 10 ,11, 12, next row 5, 6, 7, 8 and the bottom row is 1, 2, 3, 4.
===================================
Kenwood 13 Pin No. Pin RJ45
Name Function  
1 SANO None
AF output from the sub-receiver  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP receive data pin for digital operation.  
• AF output level is independent from SUB AF control setting.  
• AF output level can be changed by adjusting the Menu No. 50D value.  
• Output impedance: Approx. 10kW.  
2 RTTY RTTY key input 1
3 MANO None
AF output from the main transceiver  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP receive data pin for digital operation.  
• AF output level is independent from the MAIN AF control setting.  
• AF output level can be changed by adjusting the Menu No. 50C value.  
• Output impedance: Approx. 10kW.  
4 GND Ground 6
5 MSQ None
Main transceiver squelch control  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP squelch control pin for digital operation.  
• Prevents the TNC from transmitting while the transceiver squelch is open.  
• Squelch open: Low impedance  
• Squelch closed: High impedance  
6 NC No connection None
7 SSQ None
Sub-receiver squelch control  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP squelch control pin for digital operation.  
• Prevents the TNC from transmitting while the transceiver squelch is open.  
• Squelch open: Low impedance  
• Squelch closed: High impedance  
8 GND Ground 7
9 PKS 3
Transceiver PTT line control  
• Ground this terminal to transmit.  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP transmit/ receive switching pin for digital operation.  
• Microphone audio input mutes when the transceiver transmits.  
10 NC No connection None
11 PKD 2
Microphone audio input  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP transmit data pin for digital operation.  
12 GND Ground 8
13 SS 4
PTT control  
• Ground this terminal to transmit.  
• For connecting a footswitch or other external controller (in parallel with MIC jack).  
• Microphone audio input does NOT mute when the transceiver transmits.  
Note:  RJ45 Pin 5 No Connection to Kenwood 13 Pin  
===========================
I heard from the supplier of the "official" cable today.  The item is shipping today and with luck, I will have it on Saturday.

Appreciate the continued support.

Cheers.

Don KC0DE

Re: Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

George Miller W3GWM
 

Thanks, Mark. I didn’t get a chance to work on it today, but I will be setting it up tomorrow. If I just take my time and document every setting I make, I can back track to a point where the problem disappears.

 

I want to make sure this works and I can then provide documentation for anyone else with a TS-480.

 

73,

 

George W3GWM

Eastern PA Section Manager

Email: W3GWM@...

Phone (570) 250-1007

 

 


--
George W3GWM

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Don Domina
 

Howard/Don

Further to # 3033.
As Don noted this morning, we still have not confirmed or ruled out an issue with the cable.  
I have checked continuity with the my current cable.  I am not 100% certain of the reading.  The probe was too large and the meter is not the best.  I will recheck with a better probe/meter if I can locate one.  My results are puzzling.  While I see PTT control I do not see any audio.  And I recall that when I unplugged the cable from the RSS during one of the tests suggested  and tried to key the transmitter, it did key.
The results of the pin-to-pin continuity check is as follows.  The pins on the RJ45 are counted with the contacts pointed at 6 o'clock and facing up from Right to Left.  The pins on the 13 pin are counted from a mirrored image of the socket on the back of the TS2000 located in the instruction manual.  The key is to the bottom.  Top row is 13, next row Right to Left is 9, 10 ,11, 12, next row 5, 6, 7, 8 and the bottom row is 1, 2, 3, 4.
===================================
Kenwood 13 Pin No. Pin RJ45
Name Function  
1 SANO None
AF output from the sub-receiver  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP receive data pin for digital operation.  
• AF output level is independent from SUB AF control setting.  
• AF output level can be changed by adjusting the Menu No. 50D value.  
• Output impedance: Approx. 10kW.  
2 RTTY RTTY key input 1
3 MANO None
AF output from the main transceiver  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP receive data pin for digital operation.  
• AF output level is independent from the MAIN AF control setting.  
• AF output level can be changed by adjusting the Menu No. 50C value.  
• Output impedance: Approx. 10kW.  
4 GND Ground 6
5 MSQ None
Main transceiver squelch control  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP squelch control pin for digital operation.  
• Prevents the TNC from transmitting while the transceiver squelch is open.  
• Squelch open: Low impedance  
• Squelch closed: High impedance  
6 NC No connection None
7 SSQ None
Sub-receiver squelch control  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP squelch control pin for digital operation.  
• Prevents the TNC from transmitting while the transceiver squelch is open.  
• Squelch open: Low impedance  
• Squelch closed: High impedance  
8 GND Ground 7
9 PKS 3
Transceiver PTT line control  
• Ground this terminal to transmit.  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP transmit/ receive switching pin for digital operation.  
• Microphone audio input mutes when the transceiver transmits.  
10 NC No connection None
11 PKD 2
Microphone audio input  
• Connect to the TNC or MCP transmit data pin for digital operation.  
12 GND Ground 8
13 SS 4
PTT control  
• Ground this terminal to transmit.  
• For connecting a footswitch or other external controller (in parallel with MIC jack).  
• Microphone audio input does NOT mute when the transceiver transmits.  
Note:  RJ45 Pin 5 No Connection to Kenwood 13 Pin  
===========================
I heard from the supplier of the "official" cable today.  The item is shipping today and with luck, I will have it on Saturday.

Appreciate the continued support.

Cheers.

Don KC0DE

Re: Mumble/Plumble connection for sound

Loic SM5VFE
 

I use the Kenwood TS 590s video under files to understand how to connect to Mumble.

Regards from Loic, SM5VFE

Re: Rigpi ptt led stop lighting up. Kenwood TS 590s

Loic SM5VFE
 

For Kenwood TS 590s below is the PTT solution:
Go to SETTINGS>Advanced Radio.  Note the setting in TR Mtr. Change that to Output Power Default, click
Disconnect Radio and then Connect Radio.  Try PTT.

Regards from Loic, SM5VFE

Re: CW using a paddle

Duncan Fisken
 

Belay that… now I understand. The CW keyer board is built into the RigPi and RPi is a Raspberry Pi…. Doh 😊

 

73,

Duncan, G3WZD

 

From: <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Duncan Fisken <duncan.fisken@...>
Reply to: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Date: Thursday, 19 September 2019 at 16:26
To: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RigPi] CW using a paddle

 

Hi Howard;

 

Just to clarify something… in addition to purchasing the two units of RigPi, I also need to buy one (or two?) CW keying Board & one RPi Zero. I have not seen any reference from the UK dealers to such accessories.

 

TU es 73,

Duncan, G3WZD

 

From: <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Duncan Fisken <duncan.fisken@...>
Reply to: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, 17 September 2019 at 08:41
To: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RigPi] CW using a paddle

 

Hi Howard;

 

Many thanks!!

 

73,

Duncan, G3WZD

 

From: <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of "Howard Nurse, W6HN" <hlnurse@...>
Reply to: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Date: Monday, 16 September 2019 at 23:00
To: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RigPi] CW using a paddle

 

Hi Duncan,

Remote Keying will require simple modifications to the CW Keyer boards.  Two short jumpers must be added.  At some point the jumpers will be added to the production boards if all goes as planned.  I’m also testing Remote Keying using a Raspberry Pi Zero W, and the tests are going well.  That means a minimum Remote Keying RigPi will need a CW Keying board and RPi Zero ($10).  It will also work with two RigPi units once the jumpers are added to the Keyer boards.

73, Howard W6HN

Re: CW using a paddle

Duncan Fisken
 

Hi Howard;

 

Just to clarify something… in addition to purchasing the two units of RigPi, I also need to buy one (or two?) CW keying Board & one RPi Zero. I have not seen any reference from the UK dealers to such accessories.

 

TU es 73,

Duncan, G3WZD

 

From: <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Duncan Fisken <duncan.fisken@...>
Reply to: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, 17 September 2019 at 08:41
To: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RigPi] CW using a paddle

 

Hi Howard;

 

Many thanks!!

 

73,

Duncan, G3WZD

 

From: <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of "Howard Nurse, W6HN" <hlnurse@...>
Reply to: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Date: Monday, 16 September 2019 at 23:00
To: "RigPi@groups.io" <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RigPi] CW using a paddle

 

Hi Duncan,

Remote Keying will require simple modifications to the CW Keyer boards.  Two short jumpers must be added.  At some point the jumpers will be added to the production boards if all goes as planned.  I’m also testing Remote Keying using a Raspberry Pi Zero W, and the tests are going well.  That means a minimum Remote Keying RigPi will need a CW Keying board and RPi Zero ($10).  It will also work with two RigPi units once the jumpers are added to the Keyer boards.

73, Howard W6HN

Mumble/Plumble connection for sound

Hal
 

I understand that Mumble is required for Windows and Plumble for Android for sound connection for both the mic and speaker.  I have loaded Mumble on my Windows computer and Plumble on my Android phone.  However, I cannot get either to connect with the RigPi server.  Is there a list of steps for both?

Re: Toggle the big PTT switch?

Janne Blomquist / SM5SUH
 

In my case I just want to operate the PTT switch on the screen, not have any more equipment to use to do that.

I’ve just got an idea that’s maybe any better.

Wy not just split the big PTT button on the right of the VFO in to two and let the upper one be momentarily and the lower toggle, then we have the best of two world? Or maybe the buttons would be to small?

 

Jan / SM5SUH

Re: Toggle the big PTT switch?

Bob Luff
 

Great idea!  


On Sep 19, 2019, at 6:21 AM, Janne Blomquist / SM5SUH <handla@...> wrote:

Hello RigPi users!

 

I have recently start to use a mobile phone in the car connected to my radio station via RigPi.

There is one thing that I would love to do when driving and talking in the same time and that’s to be able to toggle the big PTT switch beside the VFO.

I know the there is a toggle button but its smaller and I must scroll down leaving the display/VFO section so using the big PTT to toggle TX/RX would improve driving safety a lot.

Anybody know if there is any way to alter between toggle and momentary PTT in any setting?

If not, maybe this is something for future updates?

I love the RigPi and the thing it could do but even the best can be better, I think.

Regards from Sweden.

Jan / SM5SUH

Re: Toggle the big PTT switch?

Michael Foerster
 
Edited

I’m still setting up my RigPi (actually, it’s on a back burner until I can get my tower done), so I haven’t had a chance to try it, but if the RigPi allows a button to be defined, you might use something like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Bluetooth-Remote-Control-Shutter-Self-timer-for-iPhone-X-8-7-6-Samsung/261777263210?hash=item3cf3240a6a:m:m0wHoIz2WtZr3h3LJiPNd9g

I use use one of these for my RemoteHams cell phone to toggle the remote PTT.

If there isn’t a way to define a Bluetooth button (or a keystroke) to a macro, it would be an enhancement that should be requested for a future release.

--
Mike, W0IH

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Don Domina
 

Don

Thanks for the response.  I appreciate you checking your TS2000.  I reset mine to the 50 B/C/D to the defaults and there was no change in the condition.  
In regards to Mumble, in an earlier exchange, I had been advised to reinstall Mumble.  I did that.  Mumble autostarts when I start the RSS.  I get the message that says it is connected to the server.
I did configure it and set the audio to the device noted for both input and output, as you noted in you message.  Noise suppression was already OFF.  I exited and restarted it.  There was no change in the condition.
I then re booted the RSS and restarted the radio.  There was no change in the condition.
Finally, I normally follow the start up procedure you noted.  I try to be careful during start up and shutdown.  I have inadvertently corrupted SD cards in the past.

Are you aware of a "Pin out" diagram for the 13 pin connector to the RJ45?  I can at least check continuity between from one end to the other and determine if the cable is "correct".

Thanks again.

Cheers.

Don KC0DE

Re: Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

Mark Weisheimer
 

Hi George,

I think you will do fine and I applaud your process.
Documenting each and every change that you make not only provides good documentation, it shows you where you can reverse a setting that is otherwise forgotten.
Ask me how I know about hindsight...
That miniDIN6 cable and jumper block from Tigertronics should work without issue.
If you run into trouble, there is a TS-480HX here and I can work with you by phone if that helps.

I wish you good learning and steady progress!

--
73 - Mark - K8MHW
'A RigPi Enthusiast!' - I am not otherwise affiliated with MFJ or RigPi

Toggle the big PTT switch?

Janne Blomquist / SM5SUH
 

Hello RigPi users!

 

I have recently start to use a mobile phone in the car connected to my radio station via RigPi.

There is one thing that I would love to do when driving and talking in the same time and that’s to be able to toggle the big PTT switch beside the VFO.

I know the there is a toggle button but its smaller and I must scroll down leaving the display/VFO section so using the big PTT to toggle TX/RX would improve driving safety a lot.

Anybody know if there is any way to alter between toggle and momentary PTT in any setting?

If not, maybe this is something for future updates?

I love the RigPi and the thing it could do but even the best can be better, I think.

Regards from Sweden.

Jan / SM5SUH

Kenwood TS-480HX and RigPi

George Miller W3GWM
 

I’ve read everything I can find and think I’m ready to begin putting my MFJ-1234 RigPi together. I’m going to proceed slowly and document every step I take so I can repeat steps if necessary. I do have a monitor with a HDMI port and a USB keyboard and mouse.  My first step will be to connect my RSS to my local LAN.

Next I’m going to try connecting to the RSS through a computer and my iPhone on my LAN. The instructions are pretty clear up to this point and I don’t think I’ll run into any problems. 

Now coms the steps where I’m going to need some help.  There is a lot of information on the Icom 7300 and the KX-3. There’s even a little about the Kenwood TS-2000 and 590, but not much about the TS-480. 

I have a degree in electronics and was employed in various areas of the computer industry. I’ve even written a couple of books on computer programming. I think I have the necessary skills to make this work.

I have no experience with Raspberry Pi and the programming languages used to create RigPi, but if I proceed slowly and document each step I should be able to get this working. After all, I built my first computer from a Z-80 chip in the days before home computers were being sold.

After I have everything working up to this point, I’ll experiment a bit before connecting my TS-480. I’m getting a radio cable and jumper module from Tigertronics for a SignaLink. In theory, this should make connecting the radio almost Plug ‘n Play. 

Heres where i expect to run to run into problems. Rather than doing a lot of troubleshooting, I hope problems I’m going to run into will be similar to what people have encountered on other rigs and I’ll be able to get help.

I’m looking forward to working with the RigPi.   It will be nice to be able to access my radio anywhere I can get on the Internet, but it will be taking me back to my early days as a Ham when I built a lot of gadgets for my Ham shack. 

Hope you'll all be patient with me and help me along the way. I’m not as sharp at 72 as I was as a new Ham 45 years ago.

Thanks in advance for your help.
--
George W3GWM

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

 

Don,
Mine are all the same except 50A, B & C are set at the default of 4.
Remember, we haven't eliminated the cable yet!!
I had a PTT response problem once but don't remember what cured it.  For some reason I think it had something to do with mumble??
Do you have mumble installed and working?
Here's a good starting place which helped me getting audio.
From Howard:

I believe the only settings that need to be confirmed at this point on your RigPi are located in the Mumble program located on the Raspberry Pi desktop.  If you don't see it, Mumble can be opened from the Raspberry Pi Desktop Internet menu item in the Applications menu (Raspberry Icon.)

    1. In Mumble, click the Configure menu, then Settings.  You should now see Audio Input settings. 
    2. Click the Device drop down arrow and select [sysdefaultCARD=sndrpiproto], Default Audio Device.  This is the RigPi Audio board.
    3. Scroll down the window and make sure Audio Processing Noise Suppression is all the way to the left (OFF).  (Noise suppression causes "water.")
    4. Click Apply at the bottom.
    5. Do the same fore the Audio Output Device (there is no Noise Suppression in that window).
    6. Click Apply at the bottom, then OK.
    7. Exit Mumble by clicking the X in the upper right corner, then restart it from the Internet menu item (click the Raspberry icon, upper right).
73, Howard W6HN

This will help if you haven't already done it.
I didn't find my cable yet!!!
Here's a non electronic suggestion.  When you quit for the night, turn everything completely off.  When you start tomorrow, turn on the RigPi first. Then from the Tuner screen Macros of the RigPi Power On the TS-2000. Now you can resume your tests if the radio fired up.
Hopefully it will.
Don
N3BMT

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Don Domina
 

Don,

I concur that all my settings are the same as yours with the exception of two which I reset to yours.  Those different were:
Tx Pwr - mine was 10 and reset to 100
Mtr Cal - mine was 6 and reset to 100.
After saving and restarting, there was no impact.  The condition remained.

Further, I checked some of the menu settings on my TS 2000 and if you could verify yours are the same, I would appreciate it.  I use this section of menu for Winlink connections through the Signallink and theTNC.
DCD Sensing Band Menu 46 = MAIN & SUB
Packet Filter Bandwidth Menu 50A = OFF
AF Input level for Packet Menu 50B = 3
MAIN band AF Output level for Packet Operation Menu 50C = 1
SUB band AF Output level for Packet Operation Menu 50D = 4
MAIN/SUB band: External TNC Menu 50E = MAIN
Data Transfer speed External TNC Menu 50F = 1200
Packet Communications Mode Menu 55 = OFF
COM Port communications Speed Menu 56 = 57600

Cheers

Don KC0DE

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Don Domina
 

Howard,

Yes I did.  I Disconnected and Reconnected from the Advanced Radio Settings page on each of the five choices.  I also went through all five choices again with the Disconnect and Reconnect achieved from the Tuner page.  The same condition remains.  No change.

With regards to the sluggishness, I decided to test the internet connection.  Simple test run on the RSS (Okla).  Results 11 ms ping, 34 Mbps down and 176 Mbps up.  I have a theoretical Gig fiber line at the house.

Hope this helps.  Look forward to your response

Don KC0DE

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Joe Clements <vy2jc@...>
 

And does anyone have all of the settings for the rig pie working with an Icom 7300 and my internet is a Bell Aliant router


From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Joe Clements <vy2jc@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:04:15 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RigPi] TS 2000 no PTT
 
Hello guys and girls I am wondering if I could get someone that has a Icom 7300 already set up and working could you email me all of the settings that you are using and the app Etc please thank you in advance


From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Don N3BMT via Groups.Io <dlink.home@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 4:41:55 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RigPi] TS 2000 no PTT
 
Hi Don,
Here are my settings from my working TS-2000:
Basic Radio
Manuf   Kenwood
Model   TS-2000
 
Name   TS-2000
R Port   /dev/ttyUSB0
 
Keyer    RigPi Keyer
K Port    /dev/ttyS0
Tx Pwr   100
 
Advanced Radio
Manuf   Kenwood
Radio  TS-2000
 
Name   TS-2000
R Port   /dev/ttyUSB0
Baud     57600
Stop       default
R DTR   default
R RTS    default
CI-V       defaulted
PTT        ON when transmitting
Tr Mtr     Output Power Default
Mtr Cal    100
Keyer      RigPi Keyer
K Port     /dev/ttyS0 
Tx Pwr    100
Don
N3BMT

Re: TS 2000 no PTT

Joe Clements <vy2jc@...>
 

Hello guys and girls I am wondering if I could get someone that has a Icom 7300 already set up and working could you email me all of the settings that you are using and the app Etc please thank you in advance


From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Don N3BMT via Groups.Io <dlink.home@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 4:41:55 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RigPi] TS 2000 no PTT
 
Hi Don,
Here are my settings from my working TS-2000:
Basic Radio
Manuf   Kenwood
Model   TS-2000
 
Name   TS-2000
R Port   /dev/ttyUSB0
 
Keyer    RigPi Keyer
K Port    /dev/ttyS0
Tx Pwr   100
 
Advanced Radio
Manuf   Kenwood
Radio  TS-2000
 
Name   TS-2000
R Port   /dev/ttyUSB0
Baud     57600
Stop       default
R DTR   default
R RTS    default
CI-V       defaulted
PTT        ON when transmitting
Tr Mtr     Output Power Default
Mtr Cal    100
Keyer      RigPi Keyer
K Port     /dev/ttyS0 
Tx Pwr    100
Don
N3BMT