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Remote Paddle CW

Charlie Rubenstein
 

I have been looking for how you can (or can't) operate CW remotely with paddles. All I see is keyboard CW. Am I missing something?

Charlie KB8CR

Re: Remote Paddle CW

Ben
 

We have not figured out how to connect the paddles to the computer/tablet/phone yet. With the number of requests I have seen and heard it is worth looking in to but may take some time to figure out.
 
Reuben Stapp "Ben"
KB5ZO
Product Development Engineer
MFJ Enterprises, Inc.
662-323-5869
 



From: RigPi@groups.io [mailto:RigPi@groups.io] On Behalf Of Charlie Rubenstein
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 12:27 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io
Subject: [RigPi] Remote Paddle CW

I have been looking for how you can (or can't) operate CW remotely with paddles. All I see is keyboard CW. Am I missing something?

Charlie KB8CR

Icom 7610 Compatibility

Garry Decker <K9WHF@...>
 

I am a new subscriber, thanks for allowing me to be a member.
i would like to use the MFJ-1234 on my IC-7610 and possibly on one of my IC-7300’s.
Has anyone successfully accomplished this?
The 7610 is already connected to my router by Ethernet 
via its own self contained server and is successfully running RS-BA1, but it is cumbersome and requires the radio to be powered up 100% of the time.
The Radio USB port is already committed to my desktop.
My version of RS-BA1 requires Winders based laptop to run.
I would appreciate comments about this idea. I am quite intrigued with the idea of running a radio from my iPhone 
XMax  
Thank you
Garry
W9WHF

Connecting a Barrett 2050

Paul Heintz
 

Howdy,

I was wondering if anyone had utilized this device with a Barrett 2050?

73's

Paul W0PRH

Re: Icom 7610 Compatibility

Michael Young
 

Garry,
Beta testers have successfully interfaced the RigPi to both the 7300 and 7610.  

You simply connect the USB port of either radio to the RigPi’s USB port.  Both Cat control and audio are available via USB.  Now you can access your radio from a browser on any platform.  

You will not need the router connection to your 7610 I’d probably leave it for RS-BA1 access.  

I do not know if you can control the power via CAT but there’s always a way and that has been discussed.  Gotta save some improvements for the future.  LOL

Beta testers have used RigPi to access their radios from both iOS and Android devices.  

Read the Help documents and ask more questions!

73
Mike
WB8CXO

On May 16, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Garry Decker <K9WHF@...> wrote:

I am a new subscriber, thanks for allowing me to be a member.
i would like to use the MFJ-1234 on my IC-7610 and possibly on one of my IC-7300’s.
Has anyone successfully accomplished this?
The 7610 is already connected to my router by Ethernet 
via its own self contained server and is successfully running RS-BA1, but it is cumbersome and requires the radio to be powered up 100% of the time.
The Radio USB port is already committed to my desktop.
My version of RS-BA1 requires Winders based laptop to run.
I would appreciate comments about this idea. I am quite intrigued with the idea of running a radio from my iPhone 
XMax  
Thank you
Garry
W9WHF

Re: Icom 7610 Compatibility

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi Garry and welcome!

I believe both the 7610 and 7300 support the CAT Power Off and Power On commands, therefore RigPi will accomplish both with both radios.  Furthermore you can have the 7610 and 7300 connected at the same time using two accounts.  Control is completely separate, including a shared or unique log, spot source and filtering, and rotor control. Open one browser for each account.

Normally you will use a USB port on RigPi to connect your radio.  That might conflict with your statement that the radio USB port is already committed.  Tell us more...it might be possible to use a CI-V to USB cable in place of the USB port on the radio.

RigPi can also control an AC power switch if all else fails (see CommCat Help).

73, Howard W6HN (from the 2019 Dayton Hamvention)

Re: Connecting a Barrett 2050

WA8KHP -
 

Hi Paul,

I just looked at the specs for the Barrett 2050 and there are no USB ports and no CAT Control Logic.  So I would say No to interfacing to RigPi.

Look at the forum topic "RigPi CAT Control Logic"  and the attached PDF file and follow the logic.

73

David - WA8KHP

On May 16, 2019, at 5:26 PM, pheintz@... wrote:
Howdy,

I was wondering if anyone had utilized this device with a Barrett 2050?

73's

Paul W0PRH

Re: Connecting a Barrett 2050

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hello Paul, and welcome to the RSS forum.

I took a quick look at the online specs for the Barrett 2050, but didn’t see anything about computer or CAT control.  Often radios mimic commands from other popular radios. If that is the case with the 2050, we are good to go.  Can you provide a link to a more comprehensive 2050 manual?

73, Howard W6HN from the Dayton 2019 Hamvention

Re: Remote Paddle CW

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi Charlie,

Ben is right, getting remote paddle operation is a high priority.  The beginnings of the code to do that are in the first release of the software, and I’m hoping a solution will be possible.  It may take another device at the remote end to convert the paddle switching to Internet data...maybe RigPi Junior?  Stay tuned...

73, Howard W6HN from the 2019 Dayton Hamvention

At Hamvention

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Our demo is all set and ready for action tomorrow (Friday) morning.  I’ve already met several RigPi Beta testers in the brief time I was there today, plus I did an interview with the folks from Gigaparts, one of MFJ’s largest dealers (who now has stock!).

See the scene of action below.  I hope to see you there!

73, Howard W6HN from the 2019 Dayton Hamvention

Re: New 2019 MFJ catalog available

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

And, you can pick up your own hard copy at the Hamvention, for free!  (But wait...  :-) )

73, Howard W6HN from the 2019 Dayton Hamvention 

Re: Icom 7610 Compatibility

WA8KHP -
 

Hello Gary,

As Mike said RigPi has been successfully interfaced to a 7610 using the USB ports on the radio.  Since your ports are already used and connected to a PC and you don't want to change that connection, you need to look at other connecting  options. Look at the forum topic "RigPi CAT Control Logic" and read the PDF.  You must connect the RigPi to the PC, as I currently view the solution.

The problem then is combining the two seperate ports (RigPi and 7610) virtually.  Both devices are connected to different USB ports so the CAT commands must work between them and other software on the PC.

David - WA8KHP

Re: Icom 7610 Compatibility

Garry Decker <K9WHF@...>
 

Hi Howard:
I am soooo envious that you are at the DHV.
Thank you so much for the quick response which helps me understand this nifty little box.
I have overfilled the 7610 with cables, a few probably unnecessary. The 3.5mm to USB CAT 
conversion cable is already in place, attached to my desktop. Both USB ports are connected primarily to facilitate WSJT-X and occasionally HRD as well as RS-BA1. 
If a USB splitter was available for the “B” connections and a traffic director was available I suppose it might be possible to add in the MFJ-1234, but I don’t want to try to unhook the spaghetti pile behind the rig to connect the 1234 when I am going away.
I suspect there is a way to do this considering I have the RS-BA1 working using the internal server of the 7610, though it sounds as if that feature won’t be involved.
We have quite a few connectivity options:
3 Routers with WiFi capacity
Each has hard wire paths if needed
Primary WiFi Router/Modem is 200 Mbps
Remote WiFi will be around 80 mbps, both identical WiFi Residential Gateways on Comcast.
Remote devices will be iPad Air and/or iPhone XS Max.
I could use a IC-7100 or a IC-7300 as the homebase radio (s). The best antennas are on the 7610. 
I experimented today and locally the 7610  will turn itself on and off using RS-BA1, but that software has a mind of its own and every time Microsoft does an update you start over cleaning up RS-BA1 entries.
The online descriptions of how RRC is applied is “useless  fluff” as I read it.
I appreciate your help sir, I am “all ears”. 
Kind Regards,
Garry
W9WHF 


On May 16, 2019, at 8:46 PM, Howard Nurse, W6HN <hlnurse@...> wrote:

Hi Garry and welcome!

I believe both the 7610 and 7300 support the CAT Power Off and Power On commands, therefore RigPi will accomplish both with both radios.  Furthermore you can have the 7610 and 7300 connected at the same time using two accounts.  Control is completely separate, including a shared or unique log, spot source and filtering, and rotor control. Open one browser for each account.

Normally you will use a USB port on RigPi to connect your radio.  That might conflict with your statement that the radio USB port is already committed.  Tell us more...it might be possible to use a CI-V to USB cable in place of the USB port on the radio.

RigPi can also control an AC power switch if all else fails (see CommCat Help).

73, Howard W6HN (from the 2019 Dayton Hamvention)

Re: Remote Paddle CW

@WM6Y
 

I wonder if there is a way to do it with a WinKeyer and WKremote or something similar. Remote CW paddles would be amazing addition to the product.

Looking forward to checking it out. 

Re: Remote Paddle CW

Tom Thomas <w7tct@...>
 

I think I see an answer to a question I just posted on a Ham Radio Concepts YouTube video as to how to do cw ops with a straight key. It sounds like I just use some keyboard key as the straight key and not try to connect a 'real' straight key to my computer/mobile/tablet.

Re: Remote Paddle CW

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi Tom,

For CW at present you type on a keyboard or mobile device. Programmable macros help with standard CW phrases.

I have started looking into having a way to use paddles remotely, which will probably require an interface to the Internet for the paddles. For example, connecting a physical device to Apple mobile devices is made almost impossible by limitations Apple imposes. Bluetooth is one possibility, but that requires additional hardware.

73, Howard W6HN 

Re: Connecting a Barrett 2050

Paul Heintz
 

Hi Howard,

You are correct, the Barrett is a bit of a pain.  I wrote some CAT software to interact with it.  They do not publish a CAT digest you pretty much have to know someone at the factory.

Many thanks for getting back with me.  I will put the RigPi on my list of must haves when I pick up a standard rig.

Hope you're enjoying Dayton...

73,

Paul W0PRH


From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Howard Nurse, W6HN <hlnurse@...>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 1:49 AM
To: RigPi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RigPi] Connecting a Barrett 2050
 
Hello Paul, and welcome to the RSS forum.

I took a quick look at the online specs for the Barrett 2050, but didn’t see anything about computer or CAT control.  Often radios mimic commands from other popular radios. If that is the case with the 2050, we are good to go.  Can you provide a link to a more comprehensive 2050 manual?

73, Howard W6HN from the Dayton 2019 Hamvention

Re: Connecting a Barrett 2050

Paul Heintz
 

Hi David,

Thank you for getting back with me.  You are correct it has no native USB capability you have to use an adapter.  It does have extensive CAT functionality.  That said they do not publish it.  I was able to receive this knowledge only through a contact at the factory.

Many thanks for the information.  I'll look at adapting my roll your own interface application to the RigPi CAT Control in the future.

73,

Paul W0PRH


From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of WA8KHP - <joepic9@...>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 1:47 AM
To: rigpi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RigPi] Connecting a Barrett 2050
 
Hi Paul,

I just looked at the specs for the Barrett 2050 and there are no USB ports and no CAT Control Logic.  So I would say No to interfacing to RigPi.

Look at the forum topic "RigPi CAT Control Logic"  and the attached PDF file and follow the logic.

73

David - WA8KHP
On May 16, 2019, at 5:26 PM, pheintz@... wrote:
Howdy,

I was wondering if anyone had utilized this device with a Barrett 2050?

73's

Paul W0PRH

Getting Started

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

While much of the discussion in the forum has been focused on “How do I connect my...”, in reality most will find the process quite simple.  On first use you are shown an Express User Settings window.  Enter your call in place of ADMIN.  I do not recommend changing the username from ‘admin’ to something else at this point, nor entering a password, those can be set later.

Click the invitation to fill some basic info using the onboard FCC Database.

Click Next, and the Express Radio Settings window opens.  Select the Manufacturer, Model, and com port.

Click Connect Radio, and you are set to go!

I recommend not changing the Username above because RigPi requires you to log in again if the username is changed.  In the future this additional step (which bypasses the Express Radio Settings window, won’t be necessary.

73, Howard W6HN

Re: Remote Paddle CW

Willi Passmann <wpassmann@...>
 

Maybe it can be done the same way as with an IC-7300 when operated
remotely via the Win4Icom Suite. In this setup you would need 2
Winkeyers, one at the IC-7300 location and one at the remote location.

Haven't tried this setup myself; the information came from Tom, VA2FSQ,
the developer of Win4Icom.

vy 73,
Willi, DJ6JZ

Am 17.05.2019 um 04:19 schrieb @WM6Y:

I wonder if there is a way to do it with a WinKeyer and WKremote or something similar. Remote CW paddles would be amazing addition to the product.

Looking forward to checking it out.