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Re: Connecting to Mumble

Larry Lentz
 

Thanks, Howard. How do you add a new user? Do I simply make up a name, like my call sign in the Mumble logon?


Re: connection to remote computer

robert sherman <marceno2@...>
 

Thanks for all the help, guys. Could not have done it without you.  Now remote ops working ok. 73, Bob K2SJP


Re: False Advertising

Richard Monroe
 

As one of the hams of Heathkit, I finally need to do a 2 cents worth.  The success of Heathkit was not all our engineering or parts sources.  The real truth is in the “Technical Writers”. All of us worked through them to make what I call a perfect system.  The manuals for any kit took many revisions over their kit life.  One of our execs was a David Nurse, this is de jai vu, nay relationship.   I need to praise Howard for facing a “shot gun” of requests, I am sure that the effort to organize the “manuals” is frustratingly resident.
Nuf said, I feel the process will take time, as popular as this “kit” is!
K8JKI 


On Dec 28, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Howard Nurse, W6HN <hlnurse@...> wrote:

Terry, thank you!  Your timing is excellent, I am currently working on the Help file for the upcoming RigPi release and will incorporate your suggestions.

--Howard


Re: False Advertising

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Terry, thank you!  Your timing is excellent, I am currently working on the Help file for the upcoming RigPi release and will incorporate your suggestions.

--Howard


Re: False Advertising

Lawrence I. Kaplan
 

Since I was the miscreant to start this thread, I have to chime in. I started this thread in a place of total frustration. I still think the MFJ webpage should be changed from “it is easy as 1,2,3” and that one does not need any real computer knowledge. That said, Howard and Mark have been and are terrific in helping straightening out issues. After many hours, I now have a totally functioning unit. I can remote into the unit from anywhere both on a computer or via my IPhone. 

I would encourage everyone to stay with it, As the saying goes, what does not kill you, makes you stronger.

Happy New Year,

Larry AB3TY

On Dec 28, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Terrence Redding via Groups.Io <tredding@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon, guys,

This is a good discussion.  I imagine Howard and MFJ are tearing their hair out solving problems and coming up with solutions.  I bought my MFJ-1234 in order to remote my IC-7600.  When I found I could not simply plug and play, I set the project aside for another day. Under the quick start guide it would have been nice to see the most direct approach to connecting the RigPI and control a radio.  Any radio.  But that not what the manual says and that frankly is where most people get lost

1. Connect the RigPI to the router with an ethernet cable.
2. Plug in the 5 v supply

The RigPI server is operating, connect. to the same network as the router.

3. Connect to rig.local with a browser. It can be a computer, tablet or smartphone.
4. Connect a USB cable from the RigPI

This should be the point where the Quick Start Guide tells you how to control a radio.  Maybe a brief section on Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu, using their most popular radios would have been in order.  But no.  With the Quick Start Guide on page 10, you have to move forward to Page 31 before learning about connecting to the radio with the USB cable.

I agree it is a great concept and I look forward to using mine.  I truly appreciate all the effort those here in the forum put into helping and walking people through the trials and tribulations of getting the RigPI to work.  It may be that the RigPI is ready for release.  But the manual should not get lost in the detail, with if this or that discussions once it starts the Quick Guide.  A quick guide that allowed a clear simple successful connection of the RigPI server to the network and the radio to the RigPI would avoid a tremendous amount of angst.

Terry - W6LMJ

On Dec 28, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Kevin Lehigh <kelehigh@...> wrote:

A general comment from a former software quality  manager:  this product is obviously not completely ready for prime time when paired w/ ICOM radios.  That being said in IMHO this product wouldn’t pass our (IBM SUN or RAYTHEON) system test protocols and it probably not even Beta quality.  So we are dealing with an alpha release product IMHO.  The folks responsible  for the product (Howard, rigpi and or MFJ ) need to spend the effort to get thos product to what I call release 1.0.

This is too good of a concept to let it die.  I wish I could work with a team of software and test engineers to get this thing fixed for ICOM products (note that rigpi appears to work well w/ Yaesu radios based on comments I have seen on this forum).

73, Kevin (KJ7EHQ)

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 7:04 PM Scott Harwood <scotth@...> wrote:
I totally agree.  I bought the MFJ-1234 for the reasons in quotes below.  It was a totally different experience getting it set up and running with my Icom-7000.  A very difficult learning curve.  I called MFJ customer support and they offered nothing except to go the RigPi forum.  Thank goodness for the forum and advice there.  Since then a document has been published providing a nice step by step guide for IC-7100 and other Icom rigs, but shouldn't MFJ done this in the first place rather than furnishing no setup manual and upon calling customer support, saying "go to the RigPi support groups"?

Scott K4VWK

From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Lawrence I. Kaplan via Groups.Io <lkdds=ptd.net@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 8:35 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: [RigPi] False Advertising
 
"Remotely operate using any web browser on your mobile phone, iPad, tablet, laptop, desk-top or even Kindle! 
The MFJ-1234 is as easy to use as 1-2-3. 
Use nearly any transceiver with CAT control, old or new, no computer or computer knowledge needed."
The above is from the MFJ website. No computer knowledge? This is in the vain of "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
I believe at some time in the far future, the MFJ 1234 will be predicable and reliable. It sure is not at this time.
I am not naive to have believed the process would be easy. However, one bug after another surfaces.
There should be a list of radios that actually function with the provided software. Perhaps, armed with this, one would think about purchasing the unit.
I am not disparaging Howard and others who work very hard on this forum.


-- 
Kevin E Lehigh



Re: False Advertising

Terrence Redding
 

Good Afternoon, guys,

This is a good discussion.  I imagine Howard and MFJ are tearing their hair out solving problems and coming up with solutions.  I bought my MFJ-1234 in order to remote my IC-7600.  When I found I could not simply plug and play, I set the project aside for another day. Under the quick start guide it would have been nice to see the most direct approach to connecting the RigPI and control a radio.  Any radio.  But that not what the manual says and that frankly is where most people get lost

1. Connect the RigPI to the router with an ethernet cable.
2. Plug in the 5 v supply

The RigPI server is operating, connect. to the same network as the router.

3. Connect to rig.local with a browser. It can be a computer, tablet or smartphone.
4. Connect a USB cable from the RigPI

This should be the point where the Quick Start Guide tells you how to control a radio.  Maybe a brief section on Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu, using their most popular radios would have been in order.  But no.  With the Quick Start Guide on page 10, you have to move forward to Page 31 before learning about connecting to the radio with the USB cable.

I agree it is a great concept and I look forward to using mine.  I truly appreciate all the effort those here in the forum put into helping and walking people through the trials and tribulations of getting the RigPI to work.  It may be that the RigPI is ready for release.  But the manual should not get lost in the detail, with if this or that discussions once it starts the Quick Guide.  A quick guide that allowed a clear simple successful connection of the RigPI server to the network and the radio to the RigPI would avoid a tremendous amount of angst.

Terry - W6LMJ

On Dec 28, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Kevin Lehigh <kelehigh@...> wrote:

A general comment from a former software quality  manager:  this product is obviously not completely ready for prime time when paired w/ ICOM radios.  That being said in IMHO this product wouldn’t pass our (IBM SUN or RAYTHEON) system test protocols and it probably not even Beta quality.  So we are dealing with an alpha release product IMHO.  The folks responsible  for the product (Howard, rigpi and or MFJ ) need to spend the effort to get thos product to what I call release 1.0.

This is too good of a concept to let it die.  I wish I could work with a team of software and test engineers to get this thing fixed for ICOM products (note that rigpi appears to work well w/ Yaesu radios based on comments I have seen on this forum).

73, Kevin (KJ7EHQ)

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 7:04 PM Scott Harwood <scotth@...> wrote:
I totally agree.  I bought the MFJ-1234 for the reasons in quotes below.  It was a totally different experience getting it set up and running with my Icom-7000.  A very difficult learning curve.  I called MFJ customer support and they offered nothing except to go the RigPi forum.  Thank goodness for the forum and advice there.  Since then a document has been published providing a nice step by step guide for IC-7100 and other Icom rigs, but shouldn't MFJ done this in the first place rather than furnishing no setup manual and upon calling customer support, saying "go to the RigPi support groups"?

Scott K4VWK

From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Lawrence I. Kaplan via Groups.Io <lkdds=ptd.net@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 8:35 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: [RigPi] False Advertising
 
"Remotely operate using any web browser on your mobile phone, iPad, tablet, laptop, desk-top or even Kindle!
The MFJ-1234 is as easy to use as 1-2-3.
Use nearly any transceiver with CAT control, old or new, no computer or computer knowledge needed."
The above is from the MFJ website. No computer knowledge? This is in the vain of "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
I believe at some time in the far future, the MFJ 1234 will be predicable and reliable. It sure is not at this time.
I am not naive to have believed the process would be easy. However, one bug after another surfaces.
There should be a list of radios that actually function with the provided software. Perhaps, armed with this, one would think about purchasing the unit.
I am not disparaging Howard and others who work very hard on this forum.


--
Kevin E Lehigh


Re: Connecting to Mumble

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi Larry,

The normal credentials for Mumble are <username>/7388.  Username can be anything you like, but it must be unique for each user.  SuperUser is a special username that allows administrative access to Mumble, including setting up private rooms, banning/deleting users, and many other goodies.

73, Howard W6HN


Re: False Advertising

Larry Lentz
 

Never mind. Should have read a few more posts in the thread :-)


Re: False Advertising

Larry Lentz
 

Where can that IC-7100 guide be found??


Re: False Advertising

Howard Nurse, W6HN
 

Hi Kevin,

Please be more specific on issues you have with Icom radios so I can address them.

I’d love to have more coding help to improve RigPi.  Anyone who has a RigPi and experience with PHP/JavaScript/HTML can easily access the code and make changes.

73, Howard W6HN


Re: False Advertising

Kevin Lehigh
 

A general comment from a former software quality  manager:  this product is obviously not completely ready for prime time when paired w/ ICOM radios.  That being said in IMHO this product wouldn’t pass our (IBM SUN or RAYTHEON) system test protocols and it probably not even Beta quality.  So we are dealing with an alpha release product IMHO.  The folks responsible  for the product (Howard, rigpi and or MFJ ) need to spend the effort to get thos product to what I call release 1.0.

This is too good of a concept to let it die.  I wish I could work with a team of software and test engineers to get this thing fixed for ICOM products (note that rigpi appears to work well w/ Yaesu radios based on comments I have seen on this forum).

73, Kevin (KJ7EHQ)

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 7:04 PM Scott Harwood <scotth@...> wrote:
I totally agree.  I bought the MFJ-1234 for the reasons in quotes below.  It was a totally different experience getting it set up and running with my Icom-7000.  A very difficult learning curve.  I called MFJ customer support and they offered nothing except to go the RigPi forum.  Thank goodness for the forum and advice there.  Since then a document has been published providing a nice step by step guide for IC-7100 and other Icom rigs, but shouldn't MFJ done this in the first place rather than furnishing no setup manual and upon calling customer support, saying "go to the RigPi support groups"?

Scott K4VWK

From: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io> on behalf of Lawrence I. Kaplan via Groups.Io <lkdds=ptd.net@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 8:35 PM
To: RigPi@groups.io <RigPi@groups.io>
Subject: [RigPi] False Advertising
 
"Remotely operate using any web browser on your mobile phone, iPad, tablet, laptop, desk-top or even Kindle!
The MFJ-1234 is as easy to use as 1-2-3.
Use nearly any transceiver with CAT control, old or new, no computer or computer knowledge needed."
The above is from the MFJ website. No computer knowledge? This is in the vain of "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
I believe at some time in the far future, the MFJ 1234 will be predicable and reliable. It sure is not at this time.
I am not naive to have believed the process would be easy. However, one bug after another surfaces.
There should be a list of radios that actually function with the provided software. Perhaps, armed with this, one would think about purchasing the unit.
I am not disparaging Howard and others who work very hard on this forum.

--
Kevin E Lehigh


Re: Connecting to Mumble

Larry Lentz
 

Stumbled upon it! SuperUser/7388


Re: Rotor control: NAN

Erik Plourde <erikplourde@...>
 

Hello

I’m out for a few days but will get back next Wednesday. Will check then. 

Thanks and Happy new year 

Le ven. 27 déc. 2019 à 18:00, Jim Kravetz - KK5VG <tourwing@...> a écrit :

I’m guessing that your radio is working with RigPi. If so, go into Settings>Advanced Radio and click on the Test Radio button. Does it show USB1 as mine shows USB0? How about Port From Settings listed above that?

--

Erik Plourde
418-934-3351


Re: IC-7300 Remote Audio Update

Kevin Lehigh
 

Are u using the 16GB SD CARD that it came with or have you images and loading a new card that is 32GB or better?

My system worked fine on the IC-718 over a WAN but a couple of weeks later ‘screen’ response got real slow, the audio was choppy and garbled; eventually the screen locked up and I was never able to get it to work again.

73, Kevin (KJ7EHQ)

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 5:20 AM John G0GCQ <g0gcq.john@...> wrote:
Hi Folks

So, I can control & listen to my IC-7300 through my home LAN using a variety of devices, e.g. my iPhone, iPad, etc. I am using Mumble & the main RigPi program. No problems at all.

I got this device, though, to use my rig when I am away from my shack. So VNC Viewer was put into operation. I can control the rig via the VNC without a hitch, but I cannot get audio coming through.

I am not actually sure what to expect? By that I mean should I still use Mumble on my phone (it does work, but it is using the LAN of course!), or should Mumble on the RigPi send the audio, both ways, via the VNC Viewer (my expectation) on my device?

I have followed all the guides & videos I could find, relevant to any Icom rig, in our group repository .......... but still no luck with the audio passing through the VNC.

This is obviously an issue, and probably something that others have solved, but not one that looks obvious to me.

Anything I have missed, guys?

I’d appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

HNY de John G0GCQ




--
Kevin E Lehigh


Re: SD card backup process

Kevin Lehigh
 

A better solution for sure.  I did not know that such a program existed on the rigpi.  I have my cards and will try this today.  If I don’t have to get a read/write device and download s/w to do the imaging then that saves $ and time.

73, Kevin (KJ7EHQ)

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:22 PM Lawrence I. Kaplan via Groups.Io <lkdds=ptd.net@groups.io> wrote:
Put the new sd card (I would use 32g) into a card reader and plug it into one of the usb slots. The use the program already on the raspberry pi. You will have a bootable backup

Larry AB3TY 


On Dec 27, 2019, at 9:17 PM, neil.fullagar@... wrote:

I'm leery of even powering up the RigPi without having a backup of the image. From what I've read it's possible to open the RigPi and physically remove the card to make a backup. But do I need to use special image software or can I simply copy the content of that card to another?
 
Actually my plan would be use the copy and leave the supplied image untouched. Is there a reason not to do that? If I can do that, can the new card be larger than 16GB? Is there any advantage to a larger card?
 
Thanks.
K6NCX

--
Kevin E Lehigh


Connecting to Mumble

Larry Lentz
 

Well, I've made great progress. Finally solved the VNC resolution issue so now I can get to the Pi desktop and do stuff. Got WSJT-X configured and made a couple of contacts.

Now my problem is getting connected with Mumble. When I try, it connects initially, then disconnects saying wrong certificate or password. Using my RSS creds isn't the answer. Where do I either set the user name/password? I let the system auto on the cert.

Thanks.


IC-7300 Remote Audio Update

John G0GCQ
 

Hi Folks

So, I can control & listen to my IC-7300 through my home LAN using a variety of devices, e.g. my iPhone, iPad, etc. I am using Mumble & the main RigPi program. No problems at all.

I got this device, though, to use my rig when I am away from my shack. So VNC Viewer was put into operation. I can control the rig via the VNC without a hitch, but I cannot get audio coming through.

I am not actually sure what to expect? By that I mean should I still use Mumble on my phone (it does work, but it is using the LAN of course!), or should Mumble on the RigPi send the audio, both ways, via the VNC Viewer (my expectation) on my device?

I have followed all the guides & videos I could find, relevant to any Icom rig, in our group repository .......... but still no luck with the audio passing through the VNC.

This is obviously an issue, and probably something that others have solved, but not one that looks obvious to me.

Anything I have missed, guys?

I’d appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

HNY de John G0GCQ


Re: SD card backup process

Kevin Lehigh
 

You need 3 things besides another SD card:

1. A read / write device (search for them on amazon; they cost about $15-20).
2. Imaging software ( google and u will find free software to download to ur PC).
3. Knowledge as to how to do this.

I have an ICOM IC-718 as well as a IC-7300 but started out trying to get the MFJ1234 to work with the 718.  After a lot of hard work and armed with information from the rigpi group, I was able to finally get audio and then success with controlling the rig via a WAN connection.  However after a few days, operation became increasingly slow, similar to what we all have seen with Windows TSRs and memory leaks from Microsoft software locking up our laptops (think blue screen of death). Audio also became increasingly garbled and choppy.  I had a few suspects, the main one being memory overflow.

I think that people on rigpi@groups.io are on the right track suspecting that the marginal 16GB SanDisk cards are to blame. There is some evidence now from those who have gone to the trouble to remove the SD card, image and copy it to a 32GB card and got audio to finally work as advertised.  

I am in the process of doing the same. More to come.  Please standby.

73, Kevin x KJ7EHQ  

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM <neil.fullagar@...> wrote:
I'm leery of even powering up the RigPi without having a backup of the image. From what I've read it's possible to open the RigPi and physically remove the card to make a backup. But do I need to use special image software or can I simply copy the content of that card to another?
 
Actually my plan would be use the copy and leave the supplied image untouched. Is there a reason not to do that? If I can do that, can the new card be larger than 16GB? Is there any advantage to a larger card?
 
Thanks.
K6NCX

--
Kevin E Lehigh


Re: SD card backup process

Steve Sampson
 

I would never do this, as the booted SD Card is mounted, and
constantly changing. Best to copy the SD Card after it is removed from
the Pi.

P.S. there is 193 Meg of WAV files in .local/share/WSJT-X/save that
can be deleted. Save some space on new image.

Steve

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:13 PM Lawrence I. Kaplan via Groups.Io
<lkdds=ptd.net@groups.io> wrote:

Just go to accessories on the rigpi raspberry pi and use the sd card copier.

Larry Ab3ty


Re: RigPi on Ras Pi4

Aaron Jones
 

I upgraded my Pi to a PI4 2gig about a few weeks after the PI4 released. I’ve enjoyed it. I will find my notes on the upgrade.  I also added an external SSD to run everything I the boot partition and it runs quite smoothly and is super stable.